1992 LGPS English GP commentary

18:35:28: <Nuppiz> restarting
18:35:36: <Salamander> woo
18:35:41: <Axel> Jang jang jang drekdkrejtnwsgdfd
18:35:43: <Axel> Whatever
18:35:50: <Axel> Just don't stall
18:35:53: <Axel> GENERIC
18:35:55: <Salamander> al smith is very pleased
18:35:55: <captain_getz> official or exhibition race Nuppiz?
18:36:17: <Nuppiz> now they're fucking crashing at the start :/
18:36:20: <Salamander> official, he cant get the results if he restarts
18:36:22: <klon> yes!
18:36:25: <klon> everyone MUST retire
18:36:25: <Salamander> hahahahahaha
18:36:30: <klon> it is manifests destiny
18:36:30: <Salamander> :D
18:36:35: <Nuppiz> also Salamander karma bites
18:36:44: <Nuppiz> both Davies and Donnelly stall
18:36:49: <Salamander> boo
18:36:53: <Axel> Now I may test Birmingham SP for Rejects-1
18:37:04: <Salamander> as long as vdm makes more ground on wilson i dont care
18:37:14: <Axel> To see how rejectful it is
18:37:37: <Salamander> axel i demand that birmingham make it on to the rejects-1 calender
18:37:39: <Salamander> this is priceless :D
18:37:55: <captain_getz> so whats happening now, on this restart?
18:37:57: <Axel> If so, I want to test it now
18:39:55: <Nuppiz> Davies stalls, Donnelly stalls
18:40:14: <Nuppiz> Anker tries to avoid Davies but is hit by Madunochev
18:40:20: <captain_getz> so this race is for points?
18:40:37: <Salamander> thats what an official race is
18:40:37: <Nuppiz> and then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmn9asN-8AE
18:40:52: <klon> so how many cars are left?
18:41:16: <captain_getz> 27
18:41:37: <Nuppiz> Davies, Madunochev, Donnelly, Zaugg, Anker out on the spot
18:41:46: <Voecklerrhea> HAW HAW HAW
18:42:00: <Voecklerrhea> now time for JEV to fly past everyone and win
18:42:08: <Salamander> davies is still faster than jev
18:43:05: <Nuppiz> Graham and Karimov collide further up the track
18:43:16: <Nuppiz> that might be a penalty for Graham
18:43:42: <captain_getz> away from this race, Nuppiz, will there be a non-championship round for the 1992 season?
18:44:20: <Nuppiz> Vaca lost his front wing in the start
18:44:23: <Nuppiz> no
18:44:39: <Salamander> knockhill NC race :D
18:44:48: <Nuppiz> F. Voeckler's engine blows up!
18:45:06: <captain_getz> oh god, a full 40-something grid at Knockhill...
18:45:34: <Salamander> :/
18:45:37: <Salamander> what about vdm
18:45:52: <TheDutchBear> 40 cars at Knockhill, no way that is going to fit.
18:45:58: <Nuppiz> Dumm is still stuck behind Zaugg from the start crash...
18:46:21: <Salamander> hes quite dumm, isnt he
18:46:22: <Nuppiz> VDM 14th
18:46:26: <Pi3141> He is so dumm, he does something rejectful in every race he enters.
18:46:28: <Nuppiz> Generic in the wall!
18:46:29: <Voecklerrhea> ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
18:46:29: <Salamander> ehhhh, not too bad...
18:46:37: <Voecklerrhea> another DNF for FMV....
18:46:40: <Ferrarist> Dumm is really a dumme Sau. :p
18:46:43: <Salamander> pls retire wilson
18:47:24: <klon> no, that pun is old
18:47:36: <Salamander> i dont care
18:47:47: <Nuppiz> Generic spins, continues... and crashes into the wall
18:47:57: <klon> gud job
18:48:45: <Nuppiz> Dumm has finally got going
18:48:54: <Axel> Naas
18:49:38: <klon> Oh, Ferrarist
18:49:41: <klon> good you are here
18:49:43: <Axel> I don't care anymore
18:49:46: <klon> I've goot a football question
18:49:51: <Axel> Other than Generic wins
18:50:27: <klon> has any football player ever pulled a Villeneuve (i.e. leave a top team during their peak to help build up a weak one)?
18:50:47: <Nuppiz> Sun is stuck in fourth gear
18:50:47: <Ferrarist> Maybe Lothar Matthäus, but he was old.
18:51:16: <klon> yeah, of course he was old - I don't mean players who where dead by that time
18:51:19: <captain_getz> do we have any of those in our fandom universe?
18:51:21: <Ferrarist> If you consider Paris SG "weak", you could count Ibrahimovic or Lavezzi as that.
18:51:49: <klon> hmmm, yeah, that could work
18:52:10: <klon> captain_getz, Kay Lon tried to
18:52:20: <captain_getz> and failed I assume
18:52:21: <klon> but noped the fuck out of Prospec after a year
18:52:42: <Nuppiz> Sunset spins, but carries on without damage
18:52:45: <Salamander> james davies
18:52:46: <Salamander> f1rwrs version
18:52:50: <Ferrarist> Manchester City also weren't top contenders, when they got bought by the Qatari sheikhs. So Mario Balotelli (Who left Inter to go to City), Edin Dzeko (Who left Wolfsburg, who were playing Champions League at that time) or Sergio Aguero might also be counted.
18:53:02: <Salamander> he was at amr alongside pippa mann
18:53:03: <Salamander> then failed to get a ride for 2013 because i stopped carinfg
18:53:05: <Salamander> caring
18:53:08: <Voecklerrhea> Samuel Eto'o
18:53:17: <Voecklerrhea> Inter to Anzhi Makalalalachakakakakawhatsitsname
18:53:17: <Salamander> then wound up at trueba somehow
18:53:21: <Nuppiz> ooooh
18:53:24: <Nuppiz> a collision!
18:53:29: <klon> that's not pulling a Villeneuve that's just getting fired :P
18:53:32: <Nuppiz> Sun and Vaca!
18:53:38: <klon> Salamander
18:53:48: <Ferrarist> And I know that Voecklerrhea won't like it, but screw that: I'm thinking about buying a Balotelli-Milan jersey from one of those fine Jersey sites from the UK. :)
18:53:56: <Voecklerrhea> -_-
18:54:17: <Ferrarist> Provided that they deliver to Germany, of course.
18:54:18: <Salamander> hmmm
18:54:20: <captain_getz> Vaca? really?
18:54:23: <Salamander> natalia valenti in rtcc?
18:54:35: <Voecklerrhea> FU dude :P
18:54:40: <Salamander> left twinings drt to go to ibr for some silly reason :p
18:54:46: <klon> http://www.sport-muenzinger.de/International/Andere-Ligen/?adword=google/T_VI_AC+Mailand/milan+%3B++%3B++%3B+trikots+%3B++%3B++%3B++%3B++%3B+all+%3B+17/milan%20trikot&gclid=CKm4o4C-kbgCFUFY3godYXgABg
18:54:53: <Nuppiz> Sun attempts to enter the pits, but Vaca is on the inside
18:54:58: <Nuppiz> both lose a wheel
18:55:06: <klon> so there are stores selling foreign jerseys in Germany
18:55:07: <Voecklerrhea> HAHAHAHAHAHA
18:55:12: <Ferrarist> Klon: Well, you can get Milan jersey for 20 GBP.
18:55:12: <dark77> the alfa wasn't very quick in 2015, so i'm not optimistic for valenti's chances
18:55:12: <Voecklerrhea> 70 euros for a Rangers shirt
18:55:17: <Voecklerrhea> biggest waste of money I've ever seen
18:55:19: <Nuppiz> and there's Dumm, with a blown engine
18:55:43: <klon> let me guess, Nuppiz - some 15 cars still running with the race half over?
18:56:06: <Axel> 9 laps test for Rejects-1
18:56:21: <Ferrarist> And who wants to pay 80€ for a Zenit St. Petersburg jersey?
18:56:28: <klon> Russians?
18:56:31: <Ferrarist> Especially if Hulk leaves the club after just a year.
18:56:34: <Voecklerrhea> White supremacists
18:56:39: <TheDutchBear> I thought about buying a Jonathan Tehau,Tahiti football shirt. But those things don't seem to exist.
18:56:45: <Ferrarist> Apart from Russians and KKK members :p
18:56:46: <Voecklerrhea> yeah, I tried to find that too
18:56:47: <Nuppiz> 17 cars remaining
18:56:48: <klon> Oliver Kahn fans with issues?
18:56:53: <Nuppiz> we're on lap 5/34
18:57:00: <Salamander> where is vdm?
18:57:03: <klon> okay, this race is gonna blow
18:57:04: <Ferrarist> The only "good" Russian club is Dynamo Moscow, but only because Kevin Kuranyi plays there. :D
18:57:07: <klon> time to ignore it
18:57:13: <klon> >Kuranyi
18:57:13: <Nuppiz> 11th
18:57:14: <klon> >good
18:57:16: <klon> >nope
18:57:29: <captain_getz> hurray! the majority survived 5 laps!
18:57:44: <captain_getz> your still gonna show footage of the first race I hope Nuppiz
18:57:52: <Nuppiz> no I'm not
18:57:56: <Nuppiz> I deleted it
18:58:40: <captain_getz> so was that fiasco non-canon then?
18:58:42: <Nuppiz> VDM overtakes Angula for 10th
18:58:45: <Nuppiz> yes
18:58:48: <Salamander> come on jan, get on with it
18:58:56: <Salamander> yes
18:59:07: <Salamander> come on vdm you need to close the gap to wilson
18:59:08: <Ferrarist> Speaking of PSG: Their new jerseys suck ass: http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag/products/product_details.aspx?pid=134672
18:59:13: <Nuppiz> Jong-Sung's engine explodes
18:59:15: <Ferrarist> Just like almost every Nike jersey :p
18:59:22: <Ferrarist> Apart from Arsenal's
18:59:43: <Voecklerrhea> Nike are just trolls tbh
19:00:29: <Nuppiz> oh Jericho has crashed!
19:00:36: <Ferrarist> Thankfully our football association has declined their offer back in the mid-00's.
19:00:38: <captain_getz> @Ferrarist looks like a modern team color scheme to me
19:00:46: <captain_getz> people really like darker colors now
19:01:18: <Nuppiz> oh, a brake failure in the hairpin
19:01:18: <Salamander> good good
19:01:21: <Salamander> more retirements are good
19:01:22: <Ferrarist> captain_getz: Yeah, but the white-red space is really annoying. Last season's jerseys were good.
19:01:31: <Nuppiz> luckily he manages to slow down the speed enough to avoid injury
19:01:31: <Salamander> vdm needs more points
19:01:42: <Salamander> although wilson retiring would be most ideal
19:01:47: <captain_getz> well I like asymmetry on jersey, but thats just me
19:01:54: <Ferrarist> What also blows my mind is how new Bayern jerseys cost 80€ here, yet they cost 67 GBP there, which would be roughly 73€
19:01:55: <Axel> This is shit
19:02:10: <Axel> This track has failed safety inspection
19:02:10: <captain_getz> though I may try a yin-yang themed car for a series here at some point
19:02:23: <Ferrarist> And the 67 GBP includes player flocking!
19:02:23: <klon> Ferrarist, because the brand Bayern München is worth more here than in the UK
19:02:28: <klon> that's basic business
19:02:40: <Ferrarist> Klon: They're the reigning Champions League winners for christ's sake!
19:02:51: <klon> and they are still German
19:02:54: <Salamander> and nobody in the uk cares
19:02:58: <Nuppiz> ooh Balivernes crashes
19:03:02: <klon> who runs around in a German jersey
19:03:05: <klon> on the fucking British Islands
19:03:09: <klon> :D
19:03:21: <captain_getz> Is that the same reason why there are more Ferrari and Mclaren fans out there than Red Bull fans?
19:03:34: <captain_getz> its not just about the team;s results?
19:03:34: <TheDutchBear> Don't mention the war!
19:03:43: <Voecklerrhea> Ferrarist, Nike may be bad
19:03:44: <Voecklerrhea> but
19:03:48: <Voecklerrhea> can't be worse than adidas
19:03:55: <Nuppiz> he continues without both wings
19:04:00: <Ferrarist> Nah, Adidas all the way. :)
19:04:18: <Shadaza> it takes an awful long time to build a fan base
19:04:19: <Voecklerrhea> http://footballfashion.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ac-milan-maglia-gara-third-2013-14-kit-th-365x215.jpg
19:04:20: <Voecklerrhea> EUGH
19:04:29: <klon> gaaaaaaaaay!
19:04:36: <Nuppiz> Blog's gearbox is stuck in second
19:04:43: <Ferrarist> Yeah, the golden jersey is rubbish. Bayern had something similar back in the mid-00s
19:04:43: <klon> so it fits perfectly with divegrass
19:04:44: <TheDutchBear> Disgusting
19:05:02: <Shadaza> plus it is harder to relate to a corp who is selling something that has nothing to do with racing
19:05:06: <Ferrarist> Like that: http://www.stickerfreak.de/Grafiken/Trikots/FCB/fcb-04-05-a.jpg
19:05:25: <Shadaza> oh god
19:05:26: <Shadaza> my eyes
19:05:38: <captain_getz> ok now it REALLY reminds me of 96 Jordan for some reason
19:05:54: <Ferrarist> But the black Milan jersey really looks neat. If it wasn't for the Italian flag on it: http://www.footballkitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Black-AC-Milan-Third-Kit-2013.jpg
19:06:09: <klon> btw you know what would be hilarious?
19:06:14: <TheDutchBear> Nein Nein Nein, aus meiner Augen und schnell!
19:06:23: <klon> if I were to open a football game on the PMMF
19:06:24: <Voecklerrhea> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
19:06:28: <Ferrarist> TheDutchBear: It's "aus meinen Augen" ;)
19:06:29: <captain_getz> for the first time in my history I have seen an Italian flag ruin something...
19:06:31: <klon> but would treat the sport like an American one
19:06:33: <Nuppiz> 13 cars remaining ARTHURSHOWARD!
19:06:44: <Axel> Generic already out right?
19:06:48: <klon> i.e. conferences, playoffs, drafts and everything
19:06:49: <klon> :D
19:06:51: <Ferrarist> Klon: You mean drafting? Well, everyone would try to pick up Messi first.
19:06:53: <Salamander> does this mean vdm is in the points?
19:07:00: <klon> so it'd be like MLS
19:07:02: <Nuppiz> Axel yes, he crashed out in the beginning
19:07:09: <klon> only a lot weirder
19:07:15: <Axel> whohwihwoiwhidw
19:07:23: <Axel> back to testing
19:07:41: <Nuppiz> OH OH OH OH
19:07:54: <Shadaza> wow that black jersey, it is like someone decided to add a cheap flag in the last few seconds, that is probably what actually happened
19:07:58: <Voecklerrhea> nope Ferrarist
19:08:05: <Voecklerrhea> I'd probably pick up...
19:08:16: <Voecklerrhea> SHOLA AMEOBI!
19:08:17: <Voecklerrhea> :D
19:08:22: <klon> you know what?
19:08:23: <Shadaza> National flags can look good, but stuck on like that is tacky
19:08:26: <TheDutchBear> Damned German grammatical cases
19:08:32: <klon> fuck it, I am going to do it anyway
19:08:40: <Ferrarist> Voecklerrhea: Who? Anyway, I'd pick Franck Ribery first.
19:08:42: <Salamander> good luck with that
19:08:50: <klon> yeah, you heard me - I, off all people, will bring PMMF a football game
19:08:59: <Aixata> hoo lawdy
19:09:01: <Nuppiz> Arthurs' car stops on the track
19:09:10: <Nuppiz> then both Ramone and Howard hit it
19:09:29: <Nuppiz> three cars out
19:09:34: <Salamander> is vdm in the points yet?
19:09:34: <Nuppiz> but no injuries
19:09:39: <Ferrarist> Okay, I looked up Ameobi at Wiki. I saw that he did some matches with the English U-21...and then played one match for Nigeria. That's bullshit!
19:10:03: <Salamander> and how far behind wilson is he?
19:10:09: <Ferrarist> In my opinion, once you've played for a particular nation's junior squad, you have to stick to that nation.
19:10:38: <klon> I concur
19:10:43: <klon> at least once you go past U-1
19:10:45: <klon> *U-17
19:10:53: <Voecklerrhea> I disagree strongly
19:10:53: <TheDutchBear> I agree on that
19:10:54: <Nuppiz> Capilé's car gives up!
19:10:58: <Aixata> there's a huge problem with youngsters playing for Northern Ireland U-21, then defecting to the Republic for full international games
19:11:08: <Voecklerrhea> then Vaiharua couldn't have played for Tahiti!
19:11:50: <Voecklerrhea> Marama Vahirua played for France U21
19:11:50: <Nuppiz> VDM is fifth, about a minute from Wilson
19:12:09: <Voecklerrhea> although is cousin did play for the French national team at senior level..
19:12:11: <Salamander> how many laps to go?
19:12:18: <Ferrarist> I mean, I'm glad that Germany has a fine, multi-ethnic selection of players. A national team should represent the pluralism of a society in some way. But I really can't stand players like Sebastian Boenisch, who, in order to play at the Euro 2012, decided to become Polish all in a sudden.
19:12:36: <Nuppiz> and Sunset crashes out!
19:13:22: <klon> disloyal traitors that's what they are
19:13:29: <Ferrarist> Oooh, that's a neat jersey: http://www.lovellsoccer.co.uk/Football-Replica-Shirts/Kappa/Jamaica-2012-or-13-S-or-S-Home-Replica-Football-Shirt-Yellow
19:13:37: <Nuppiz> Wilson is on lap 9/34
19:13:42: <TheDutchBear> I can understand you don't like such opportunism, I don't like that either,
19:13:43: <Nuppiz> and only eight cars remain
19:13:45: <Ferrarist> Klon: Yeah. But he got some sort of punishment: He plays at Bayer Leverkusen!
19:13:50: <Ferrarist> :D
19:14:04: <klon> okay, that is almost a bit too cruel
19:14:08: <klon> :D
19:14:23: <Voecklerrhea> as cruel as leaving Bayer Leverkusen for TSG 1899 Hoffenheim???
19:14:29: <Axel> Only 3 cars finished
19:14:35: <Salamander> damn, only 9 laps
19:14:36: <Salamander> wow
19:14:41: <Axel> No Birmingham SuperPrix
19:14:45: <Axel> for R1
19:14:52: <TheDutchBear> What happened Axel
19:14:54: <Salamander> nooooooooooooooooooo
19:15:07: <Salamander> only 3 cars finished at le mans this year
19:15:15: <Nuppiz> Wilson-Braggia-Roberts-Richardson-VDM-Angula-J. Voeckler-Vitkin
19:15:22: <Nuppiz> current order
19:15:34: <Axel> Testing Birmingham SUperPrix for Rejects-1
19:15:42: <captain_getz> k im back with pepsi
19:15:45: <Voecklerrhea> JEV made up some ground
19:15:47: <Voecklerrhea> not too bad
19:15:48: <Axel> 9 laps. 3 cars finished from 27 starters
19:15:55: <dark77> axel is there a knockhill round for rejects-1?
19:16:01: <Axel> Most of them are losing wheel upon hitting the wall
19:16:08: <Axel> I'm affraid not
19:16:11: <dark77> aww :(
19:16:36: <Nuppiz> VDM overtakes Richardson for 4th
19:16:42: <Salamander> i think your drivers in rejects-1 are too reckless
19:16:43: <Salamander> YES
19:16:44: <Salamander> D:
19:16:45: <Salamander> :D
19:16:52: <captain_getz> we need a series that does a few smaller sprints
19:17:13: <Axel> I guess the RCD file make the driver too quick
19:17:19: <Axel> even if I set it at 4
19:17:19: <Nuppiz> Angula's engine is smoking
19:17:21: <captain_getz> not "short" sprints that are pretty long like wuth V8 supercars, I mean like 10-15 lap sprints
19:17:35: <Salamander> ugh
19:17:36: <Ferrarist> Voecklerrhea: As you mentioned Hoffenheim: Derdiyok has been effectively suspended by the club. He has to train with the "group 2". The group that doesn't even travel to the training camp.
19:17:44: <Salamander> why cant wilsons engine give up?
19:17:55: <Axel> Maybe I'll go with 15
19:18:06: <TheDutchBear> Axel can we have a oval race at Phoenix, a 100 miler if possible?
19:18:20: <Axel> Yeah if you want :)
19:18:21: <captain_getz> f1? at an oval?
19:18:22: <captain_getz> lmao
19:18:23: <Salamander> that can be the season finale
19:18:26: <Axel> I can replace Sebring
19:18:32: <Salamander> its not f1, its rejects-1
19:18:57: <Axel> Judging from the speed, 150 miles is the possibility
19:19:30: <captain_getz> when were F1 cars at their fastest?
19:19:37: <captain_getz> 80s or early 90s?
19:19:41: <Axel> FYI I'm planning a race at Pergusa without chicane which recited an oval
19:19:48: <klon> captain_getz, 2004
19:19:51: <Axel> It's safe at there
19:20:21: <TheDutchBear> 150 miles at Phoenix would be historically correct. Indycars did that in the early 80s.
19:20:40: <captain_getz> Klon really? I coulve sworn the late 80s turbos were faster. back when cars has 1200-ish HP
19:20:53: <Axel> But downforce were premuim
19:20:56: <Axel> *premium
19:21:03: <Axel> Cars can't turn quick
19:21:04: <Shadaza> captain_getz the current F1 cars would run circles around the 80's machines
19:21:20: <Nuppiz> Angula's engine gives up, but does so right in front of J. Voeckler
19:21:23: <captain_getz> and I thought F1 was getting slower this whole time
19:21:29: <Salamander> if you do have 15 lap races, make them double-headers
19:21:30: <Salamander> 2 races at 1 weekend
19:21:30: <Salamander> just a suggestion
19:21:30: <Salamander> 2004, id guess
19:21:30: <Salamander> cool :)
19:21:30: <Salamander> faster in engine power
19:21:30: <Salamander> 2004 cars had so much more downforce though
19:21:30: <Salamander> all the records were set in 2004
19:21:30: <captain_getz> for safety reasons
19:21:32: <Shadaza> modern LMP1 cars would beat 80's F1
19:21:35: <Salamander> well they are
19:21:38: <Salamander> since 2004
19:21:50: <Nuppiz> Voeckler loses his front wing and is stuck behind Angula, giving up 6th to Vitkin
19:21:54: <Axel> lol
19:22:06: <TheDutchBear> Disappointed that the 2014 cars don't have much power. I hoped they would have at least 1000 BHP.
19:22:07: <captain_getz> and there were no deaths that I know from the 2004 season
19:22:09: <Ferrarist> Wait, tell me Kanye West didn't really name his child "North".
19:22:16: <klon> better than Paris
19:22:22: <Salamander> TheDutchBear that would be ridiculous
19:22:27: <Shadaza> circuits, cars and crash helmets are much better captain
19:22:31: <Axel> wat captain_getz
19:22:36: <Shadaza> in safety regards that is
19:22:38: <Axel> 1994
19:22:41: <Salamander> from a 1.6L v6?
19:22:46: <Axel> Always remeber that
19:22:52: <Nuppiz> LOOOOL
19:22:55: <klon> at least West can claim he got the name from the movie about the eponymous child
19:22:55: <captain_getz> if I name a kid HWNSNBM will I be cursed and/or killed?
19:22:55: <Axel> Last driver fatality
19:22:55: <Nuppiz> WILSON CRASHUUU
19:22:59: <Axel> YES
19:23:00: <Salamander> he said 2004
19:23:04: <Salamander> YES
19:23:07: <Salamander> WOOOO
19:23:18: <Shadaza> though some dude died in a fairly "modern" arrows car
19:23:19: <Axel> Konoteloritcaa
19:23:25: <captain_getz> my point was that even though 2004 was still safe, the sport is getting slower
19:23:39: <TheDutchBear> Well, they managed to get something like that in the eights from a 1.5 litre engine. So why not?
19:23:41: <captain_getz> anyone know why?
19:23:42: <Shadaza> the real test will be the engine changes
19:23:42: <Axel> Gio van Dycke should win the champioship!
19:23:43: <klon> or the daughter of movie actor Rob Morrow
19:23:53: <klon> just guess how he named her
19:23:55: <Shadaza> but considering you thought 80's were faster
19:24:08: <Axel> captain_getz because everyone feared
19:24:19: <Salamander> THE DREAM CONTINUES
19:24:19: <Salamander> COME ON JAN
19:24:19: <Salamander> yeah
19:24:19: <Salamander> thats to stop teams running away with it getz
19:24:19: <Salamander> TheDutchBear they used 3.0L engines in the 80s
19:24:19: <Salamander> im pretty sure
19:24:20: <Shadaza> I wouldn't worry about speeds, they still monster any other vehicle around a circuit
19:24:30: <Axel> We need more race in Monsoon conditions
19:24:37: <Nuppiz> Wilson tries to avoid Angula and Voeckler, but clips the outer wall and loses a wheel
19:24:39: <Salamander> they used 1.5L engines back in the 60s
19:24:43: <Axel> HAHAHA
19:24:44: <Salamander> until '66 iirc
19:24:50: <Ferrarist> I still think that the FIA shouldn't imposed a limit on cylinders. I mean, we could have gotten a W18 Ferrari engine :D
19:24:58: <TheDutchBear> No, F1's turbo engines in the eightes were 1.5L engines.
19:25:00: <Salamander> 66 or 67
19:25:03: <Nuppiz> and Vitkin crashes into Wilson, losing his front wing :P
19:25:15: <Axel> Pile-up
19:25:21: <captain_getz> my guess it after Life came out with that Flat-12 that it too stupid of an idea to let it continue
19:25:27: <captain_getz> *it was too stupid
19:25:36: <Axel> W12 *fixed
19:25:37: <Salamander> huh
19:25:38: <Salamander> so they were
19:25:50: <Axel> It was Subaru that was flat-12
19:25:57: <Salamander> how far is vdm off the 2 guys left ahead of him now?
19:25:58: <Nuppiz> OH NOOO
19:25:58: <captain_getz> oh yeah, y mistake
19:26:00: <klon> Oi, I got a message from MinardiFan95
19:26:03: <captain_getz> *my mistake
19:26:05: <Nuppiz> VDM CRAHSES INTO WILSON!
19:26:06: <TheDutchBear> Renault considered a W9 in the late seventies.
19:26:10: <Nuppiz> crashes
19:26:10: <Axel> HAHAHAHA
19:26:12: <Salamander> GODDAMMIT
19:26:15: <klon> he has confirmed Du Lei driving for Simpson
19:26:19: <Voecklerrhea> oh dear....
19:26:24: <Salamander> screw you axel that is a tragedy
19:26:25: <klon> but Dave Simpson drives in Australia
19:26:34: <Salamander> this is awful for the championship
19:26:58: <Axel> Now I might HAHA for everyone crahes
19:27:03: <Axel> I'm out of control
19:27:03: <Voecklerrhea> Du Lei at Simpson? what is he thinking?
19:27:03: <Salamander> vdm was gonna make up some ground
19:27:23: <Nuppiz> AND SE DOES RICHARDSON!
19:27:28: <Nuppiz> so*
19:27:34: <Axel> HAHA
19:27:38: <Voecklerrhea> JEV gonna win dis sheeeet
19:27:39: <Aixata> well, there's a dearth of good free agents
19:27:50: <Aixata> so Du Lei's alright considering
19:27:50: <Voecklerrhea> is there?
19:27:58: <Axel> やった！
19:28:06: <Voecklerrhea> well, now I think about it, perhaps there is....
19:28:14: <Voecklerrhea> I mean, Benoit Voeckler already got snapped up :D
19:28:22: <Aixata> hah
19:28:22: <Shadaza> trying to find circuits that have remained mostly unchanged since the 80's for speed comparrisons
19:28:30: <Nuppiz> Roberts is without a rear wing!
19:28:35: <Salamander> Voecklerrhea that maybe nobody else on the market is better?
19:28:35: <Salamander> christ :/
19:28:35: <Salamander> yeah
19:28:35: <Salamander> why do you think i took on shioya
19:28:35: <Salamander> it was only to get plaza
19:28:35: <Salamander> turn it into a real title fight
19:28:48: <Salamander> damn
19:28:48: <captain_getz> i dont think there would be that many Shadaza
19:28:50: <klon> Vocklerrhea
19:28:56: <Axel> これはすごいきもち
19:28:58: <klon> there IS a dearth of capable pay drivers
19:29:09: <klon> there are a boatload of good rookies
19:29:15: <Axel> Then you will say
19:29:16: <klon> but hardly any of them bring money
19:29:28: <klon> so it's like in RL racing
19:29:30: <captain_getz> yes but who wants to have the embarassment of using a driver that proves that your team cant exist financially much longer?
19:29:31: <klon> only the other way around :D
19:29:38: <Axel> 月の話
19:29:44: <captain_getz> I keep viewing pay drivers as a kiss-of-death for teams
19:29:48: <Salamander> captain_getz me
19:29:53: <Nuppiz> oh he tangles with Voeckler while trying to lap him!
19:29:54: <Salamander> it beats not actually dying
19:29:59: <klon> why are you still testing, moonspeak, Axel
19:30:02: <Axel> HA
19:30:04: <klon> by know you should know it works
19:30:07: <Nuppiz> Voeckler continues without damage though
19:30:09: <klon> *now
19:30:11: <Axel> 月の話 = moonspeak
19:30:17: <Axel> :O
19:30:19: <klon> neat :D
19:30:21: <captain_getz> well id rather go out on a decent note instead of an outright horrid one
19:30:27: <klon> but my question is still valid
19:30:40: <Salamander> so?
19:30:42: <Shadaza> as far as I can tell the Canadian GP circuit has remained largely unchanged
19:30:53: <Salamander> dgngineering had a pay driver for most of their last season
19:30:56: <Nuppiz> Montreal?
19:30:59: <Nuppiz> it has changed
19:31:00: <Shadaza> however the surface can vary in quality quite a bit
19:31:14: <Salamander> so did aeroracing
19:31:19: <Nuppiz> brb->
19:31:24: <Pi3141> Shadaza, try Spa and Monaco.
19:31:42: <Shadaza> I can see very little difference from 88 to recent. Spa has the bus stop chicane added at the end of it
19:32:06: <Aixata> foxdale will next season, won't they?
19:32:07: <Pi3141> And Suzuka
19:32:44: <captain_getz> if you cut off at 2004 then Fuji would count
19:32:52: <Salamander> yeah
19:32:53: <captain_getz> since it didnt open again until 2005
19:33:31: <MikeTyson> Greatest boxer of all time (Yes, even more so than Ali!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5sAs_1Fzlo
19:33:41: <Axel> ROTR is clear: Birmingham SUperPrix
19:33:54: <captain_getz> the course?
19:33:56: <Salamander> but fuji was last used under that configuration in 1977 getz
19:33:59: <Salamander> NO
19:33:59: <Axel> Yes
19:34:11: <klon> I wonder whether KlitschkosWinLol rank in the GOAT boxing debate
19:34:11: <Salamander> NEVER
19:34:31: <MikeTyson> Tyson would have wiped the floor with the Klitschkos in his prime.
19:35:31: <captain_getz> how about Estoril?
19:35:39: <captain_getz> *the course
19:35:47: <Salamander> last used in 1996
19:36:02: <Salamander> suzuka would probably be the best bet tbh
19:36:07: <Salamander> that and monaco
19:36:30: <captain_getz> I think thats all the ones then
19:36:52: <Pi3141> Melbourne is unchanged since 1996, I think.
19:37:04: <Salamander> but wasnt used in the 80s
19:37:29: <klon> the question is could it have been used?
19:37:52: <Salamander> dunno
19:37:53: <Salamander> doesnt matter though
19:37:53: <Axel> Suzuka?
19:38:01: <Axel> It's opened in 1961
19:38:05: <Nuppiz> Roberts crashes out!
19:38:27: <Salamander> nuppiz whos set to score points at this stage?
19:38:38: <captain_getz> nurbirgring? the first corner was the only change of note for the arena layout
19:38:41: <Nuppiz> I can't keep count!
19:38:44: <Shadaza> ok, bearing in mind Monaco has actually added an extra chicane since the mid 90's. Aryton Senna's pole time in the MP4-4 (The last of the Turbo cars) was 1:23:998. Nico Rosbergs pole time this year on a still slightly damp circuit was 1:13:876
19:38:49: <Pi3141> At least we haven't seen any heavy crashes due to brakes failures.
19:39:02: <Shadaza> that is 10 seconds faster
19:39:16: <captain_getz> how do we compare Rosberg to Senna?
19:39:19: <Axel> The swimming pool section is less tighter now
19:39:49: <Pi3141> The harbour chicane was changed in 1986, not in the mid 90's
19:39:51: <Axel> I think from Tabac to Rascasse is slighty differs at 2004 due to pit relocation
19:40:05: <Nuppiz> uhh
19:40:10: <Nuppiz> we have three cars remaining
19:40:13: <captain_getz> course I would think that Senna would have less electronic aids, unless F1 scaled those back in recent times too
19:40:16: <Axel> HAHA
19:40:22: <Shadaza> it is a murky comparison at best, but it is quite clear that even Marussia and Caterham wwould have the beating over the Turbo cars
19:40:23: <Nuppiz> Braggia, Vitkin, Voeckler
19:40:26: <Voecklerrhea> about drivers available
19:40:26: <Nuppiz> in that order
19:40:33: <Voecklerrhea> Spencer and Pratchett were both options
19:40:34: <Axel> Lap?
19:40:35: <Voecklerrhea> nobody took them
19:40:39: <Voecklerrhea> so I gave them seats elsewhere
19:40:40: <Nuppiz> 14
19:40:41: <Shadaza> haha Captain, if you are talking about driver aids, Williams in 92 had everything under the sun avaliable to them
19:40:50: <Shadaza> active suspension, traction control, abs, you name it
19:40:58: <Voecklerrhea> I will have about eight or nine good drivers to choose from for next season
19:41:32: <Salamander> nuppiz who would be classified 4th-6th though?
19:41:38: <Voecklerrhea> Spencer, Pratchett, Greenlaw, Kremnicky, van Nieuwenhuijzen, Agyemang-Badu
19:41:42: <Voecklerrhea> tbh I'm spoilt for choice...
19:41:49: <Salamander> >kremnicky
19:41:51: <Salamander> >good
19:41:52: <Salamander> lol
19:41:57: <Voecklerrhea> oh yeah and tehre's always Miccoli and Sospiri
19:41:58: <Nuppiz> Roberts, Wilson, VDM
19:41:59: <Shadaza> Mansells pole time was 1:19:495 in the car with the most driver aids in F1
19:42:09: <Salamander> eh, ill take that...
19:42:12: <Shadaza> still slower than what Marussia and Caterham can do today
19:42:16: <Salamander> damage limitation, at least
19:42:32: <Aixata> I'm interested to see how well the Dofasco F2 package performs...
19:42:33: <Voecklerrhea> yeah, Kremnicky is starting to turn into Cecotto...
19:42:57: <Aixata> and then there might be another option ;)
19:43:00: <Salamander> shadaza how about suzuka?
19:43:43: <Shadaza> interestingly, Rosbergs pole time was faster than the 2004 lap of Jarno Trulli
19:43:58: <Salamander> thats aerodynamics for you
19:43:59: <Axel> Those slick tyres
19:44:06: <Shadaza> but this is more to do with the limited impact the engines can make vs slick tires and aero
19:44:07: <Salamander> that too
19:44:07: <captain_getz> well maybe im thinking top speed wise cars back then were faster
19:44:25: <Salamander> speed traps at monza, guys?
19:44:26: <captain_getz> cause more downforce = lower speed
19:44:28: <Axel> Indeed
19:44:34: <Salamander> is there any way to get those?
19:44:43: <Axel> Antonio Pizzonia speed-trapped 369.9 km/h
19:44:55: <Nuppiz> Voeckler spins, and loses his front wing again!
19:44:58: <Axel> In 2005, Montoya would get to 372 km/h
19:45:39: <captain_getz> nowadays they are at the low 300s km/h
19:45:41: <Axel> Around 230 mph
19:45:47: <Salamander> well this is surprising
19:45:48: <Axel> Yeah
19:45:50: <Salamander> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_San_Marino_Grand_Prix
19:45:54: <Axel> Monza now is slow
19:46:10: <Shadaza> looking at Suzuka, a track largely unchanged since the late 80's
19:46:10: <Salamander> " The claims of Berger and Alboreto were backed up by the speed trap figures. The fastest cars were the Arrows-Megatrons at 310 km/h (193 mph), with the Honda powered McLarens less than 1 km/h slower. The Ferraris were much slower at 295 km/h (183 mph), and were some 20 km/h (12 mph) slower than the McLarens over the start-finish line."
19:46:41: <captain_getz> so its not just speed at Monzao then
19:46:44: <captain_getz> *Monza
19:46:51: <Salamander> well thats san marino
19:46:55: <Salamander> imola
19:47:03: <Nuppiz> lolololol
19:47:04: <Salamander> but then again its before the chicanes
19:47:06: <Shadaza> Seb Vettel has managed 1:30:466 as a pole lap, Aryton Senna in 88, 1:41:853
19:47:13: <Salamander> so its still pretty damn fast
19:47:20: <Nuppiz> Voeckler misses the pit entry and crashes into the pitwall, spinning again
19:47:27: <TheDutchBear> Monza is now about 340 km/h
19:47:27: <Axel> HAHAHA
19:47:30: <Nuppiz> he still carries on though
19:48:04: <Axel> Just give me back CART in 2000
19:48:15: <Axel> Real rocket
19:48:36: <Shadaza> personally I think mid-late 80's F1 was boring
19:48:38: <captain_getz> how fast where they compared to F1 in 2000?
19:48:46: <captain_getz> *the CART 2000
19:48:50: <Shadaza> the field spread was just awful
19:48:54: <Salamander> shadaza agreed
19:49:09: <Salamander> cart i think managed to get to 230, 240 mph
19:49:12: <Axel> Way too fast
19:49:17: <Shadaza> yes
19:49:27: <Axel> And that's with Hanford
19:49:55: <Salamander> that comes to 370-385 kph
19:50:18: <captain_getz> 2004 was fastest in F1, yet it was a schumi snoozefest
19:50:18: <Nuppiz> YESYESYES
19:50:25: <TheDutchBear> 241.428 mph closed course record Gil de Ferran California Speedway
19:50:28: <Nuppiz> Vitkin's gearbox fails!
19:50:33: <Axel> NO
19:50:36: <Salamander> why
19:50:41: <Salamander> whos left now?
19:50:43: <captain_getz> was that when F1 wanted more entertainment then records to break?
19:50:58: <Voecklerrhea> for fucks sake JEV....
19:51:03: <Salamander> oh wasnt vitkin driving for roblomas?
19:51:03: <Salamander> in that case hell yes
19:51:12: <Nuppiz> yes he is
19:51:30: <TheDutchBear> 250+mph on the straights. Paul Tracy did 256 mph at Michigan in 1996
19:51:48: <Axel> I love speed
19:52:17: <Salamander> 256 = 411 kph :o
19:52:29: <captain_getz> I wonder if an Audi R18 can beat an 80s F1 car now
19:53:01: <Nuppiz> and so JEV overtakes Vitkin
19:53:03: <Axel> The creator of Bugatti Veyrons and it's type
19:53:06: <Axel> :P
19:53:12: <Nuppiz> Braggia and JEV remain
19:53:16: <Axel> Who needs Veyron
19:53:22: <Nuppiz> with,uh, THREE LAPS between them
19:53:29: <Axel> HAHAHAHA
19:53:39: <captain_getz> whose left running Nuppiz?
19:53:39: <Voecklerrhea> come on Braggia, crash!
19:53:45: <Salamander> oh Voecklerrhea, you know braggia drives for eurobrun, right? :p
19:53:52: <Voecklerrhea> makes no difference
19:54:20: <Nuppiz> captain_getz, look at my previous message
19:55:05: <captain_getz> really? down to two again?
19:55:12: <Nuppiz> yes
19:55:14: <Shadaza> I would depend on the circuit, captain_getz, but I feel the Audi R18 would be competetive with 80's F1, it would most certainly munch the pre turbo cars
19:55:39: <Shadaza> it would be interesting to watch
19:56:34: <Nuppiz> Braggia has completed 60%
19:57:01: <Salamander> jev winning would be the most apt way to finish this race
19:57:11: <Salamander> with the race hes had
19:57:42: <Nuppiz> oh noes
19:57:47: <Nuppiz> JEV crashes out
19:57:52: <JamesGeneric> Boring
19:57:55: <Salamander> call it
19:58:01: <JamesGeneric> I should have let Tenpecost drive
19:58:21: <JamesGeneric> This is the worst track ever
19:58:45: <Axel> Redflag
19:59:05: <Salamander> THAT IS HERESY
19:59:08: <Salamander> BIRMINGHAM IS AWESOME
19:59:21: <Axel> not anymore for me
19:59:25: <Nuppiz> red flag?
19:59:32: <Axel> yeah
19:59:36: <Salamander> might as well
19:59:44: <Salamander> red flag for general incompetence
20:00:05: <klon> way too many cars running
20:00:30: <Spectators> Booooooooring
20:00:32: <Aixata> I'd like to have thought Life's a Weetabix would have had half a chance, but that's a mere pipe dream :P
20:00:36: <Spectators> Red flag
20:00:38: <Spectators> please
20:00:42: <Nuppiz> so uh
20:00:46: <Shadaza> hmmm, there is actually little difference in length between Spa in the mid-late 80's and now
20:00:49: <Nuppiz> Braggia wins the race
20:01:04: <Nuppiz> JEV classified second
20:01:07: <Nuppiz> Vitkin third
20:01:13: <Salamander> well thats not terrible for the championship
20:01:14: <Voecklerrhea> jesus christ JEV
20:01:17: <Voecklerrhea> how many times did he crash?
20:01:17: <captain_getz> 4-6?
20:01:19: <Voecklerrhea> five??
20:01:30: <Axel> Over 9000!
20:01:30: <Nuppiz> Roberts fourth
20:01:30: <Salamander> vdm winning would been much better though
20:01:31: <Aixata> woo Luther is on
20:01:33: <Nuppiz> Wilson fifth
20:01:39: <Nuppiz> VDM sixth
20:02:02: <captain_getz> Voeckler is certainly making up those races he missed isn't he?
20:02:03: <Shadaza> The Audi R18 would have the pace to be 13th on the grid for the 1988 Belgium Grand Prix
20:02:18: <Shadaza> *16th even
20:02:23: <Salamander> that should move braggia to 2nd in the championship
20:02:39: <Shadaza> though the circuit was a little different, the length and thus average speed put it there
20:02:41: <Salamander> 6-8 points behind wilson depending on fastest lap
20:03:02: <Voecklerrhea> that's what Voeckler's do captain_getz ;)
20:03:08: <captain_getz> next is Castle Combe
20:03:12: <Voecklerrhea> haven't you heard the fabled tale of 2001 Prost GP?
20:03:23: <Salamander> ah yes
20:03:27: <captain_getz> and judging from footage, it looks like an absolute pain to overtake on...
20:03:30: <Salamander> now that was a legendary season
20:03:49: <Salamander> hopefully vdm can reclaim pole position and take advantage of that
20:03:56: <Shadaza> Goodness I have just thought of an amazing idea for a fantasy series/ discussion series
20:04:30: <Nuppiz> Fastest lap: Dave Wilson, 1.20:448 on lap 7
20:04:37: <Shadaza> we submit a racing car from the present and try and figure out how well it would do if it was sent back in time and entered into a past race
20:04:38: <Salamander> ugh :/
20:04:45: <Nuppiz> ROTR: everyone but Braggia
20:04:57: <Axel> Birmingham SuperPrix!!!!!!!!
20:04:57: <Salamander> agreed
20:04:59: <Shadaza> using science and shit
20:05:00: <Salamander> no
20:05:04: <Salamander> nothing wrong with the track
20:05:10: <Salamander> the drivers just couldnt handle it
20:05:18: <captain_getz> Nuppiz is Combe with or without chicanes?
20:05:19: <Axel> Macdowie and MotorFx
20:05:36: <Axel> For creating an awful recreation
20:05:58: <Nuppiz> without
20:06:06: <Salamander> :D
20:06:10: <captain_getz> tbh i think that Birmingham would be awesome if i was a race in 60s f1 cars
20:06:11: <Nuppiz> the chicane version doesn't even exist for F1C
20:06:27: <Axel> ah
20:06:36: <Nuppiz> or does it?
20:06:52: <captain_getz> wont Combe be too short Nuppiz? seems like it would be too crowded...
20:07:05: <Axel> Nuppiz Do you mind to send your 1960S and 60S3Dconfig exe since I lost it :/
20:07:18: <Nuppiz> wat
20:07:37: <Axel> Thanks to Kaspersky
20:07:52: <Nuppiz> I don't recall ever even mentioning that I'd have them
20:08:09: <Axel> Don't have 60's mod?
20:08:27: <Nuppiz> I only have them stored on my HDD
20:08:55: <Nuppiz> never installed yet
20:09:00: <Axel> lol
20:09:07: <Axel> I'll download again
20:09:34: <Axel> Good night
20:09:46: <Axel> Get rid of Birmingham SuperPrix
20:12:59: <captain_getz> have we figured out who is ROTR>
20:13:01: <captain_getz> ?
20:13:21: <Salamander> Nuppiz ROTR: everyone but Braggia
20:13:33: <Aixata> you get an ROTR! everyone gets an ROTR!
20:14:27: <captain_getz> well back to the drawing board to see what the hell is keeping me from getting good qualifying runs
20:14:29: <Nuppiz> well, pretty much everyone screwed up at some point
20:14:47: <Nuppiz> except Braggia
20:14:55: <Salamander> speaking of qualifying
20:15:21: <Nuppiz> http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/Nuppiz/F1C/92Brum_zps31425591.jpg
20:15:55: <captain_getz> I stand corrected. I made the top 10 that time
20:16:58: <Salamander> what DID happen to vdm to make him start so far down>?
20:16:58: <Salamander> ?
20:17:35: <Nuppiz> blocked
20:17:45: <Salamander> figures :/
20:18:14: <Salamander> oh well he did lose too much ground, hopefully castle combe will go betteer
20:19:35: <Salamander> *didnt
20:24:32: <MikeTyson> Wow, a big thunderstorm is coming!
20:28:05: <MikeTyson> And now, there is an epic downpour going on here! :o
20:32:43: <Nuppiz> 59 drivers have taken part in the 1992 LGPS season so far