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  1. BTC's Judgement
  2. Round 1
  3. Pro vs MrKing
  4. Response 1
  5. King
  6. * Jackie is faster than anyone who has been speed equalized to the tier setter. Note: Only combat speed.
  7. * Team King has good piercing versus Team Pro's bad piercing durability
  8. * Team King is better durability wise with Senji and Death.
  9. * In-character behavior.
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  11. Pro
  12. * Team King's piercing isn't as good relative to Team Pro's durability
  13. * Neptuneman disarms Team King
  14. * Team Pro's piercing is better than Team King's piercing durability
  15. * Healing factors won't matter
  16. * Gourry is about Jackie's speed anyways
  17. * Gourry is likely particularly effective against Team King
  18. * Neptuneman can CC his enemy team
  19. * Team Pro is strong
  20.  
  21. Response 2
  22. King
  23. * Team King's piercing durability is good, and Pro is downplaying with incorrect feat interpretation
  24. * Demons in one setting do not pertain to demons in another.
  25. * Neptuneman's TK might be self sabotaging, and doesn't even actually work as intended due to Team King's inherent defenses
  26. * Flow of combat
  27.  
  28. Pro
  29. * Neptuneman won't get hindered by his own ability
  30. * Neptuneman works as intended
  31. * King's defenses against said magnetism works with assumptions that may not actually be true to his characters.
  32. * Team Pro will more likely go apeshit faster than Team King
  33. * A lot of things King argued weren't stipped in
  34. * Team King hasn't any real way to go against the grappling argued
  35. * Bayonet anti-feats even if fake, there's more
  36. * Death's feats don't make him fast
  37. * Stat re-establishment.
  38.  
  39. Conclusion
  40. While Pro had some pretty suspect feat interpretation like the thing about the bayonets (I don't even see any sign of explicit bleeding) or "featless" tentacles (something being 'featless' isn't an automatic demerit, its a blank slate), I do think his side was argued more effectively than King, giving him the win. He points out that a lot of King's arguments stem around stips or conditions that weren't even explicitly said to exist, which I think was a good move, and I don't frankly buy King's arguments around his defenses against the magnetism. That alone would yield Pro a COLOSSAL advantage, if he also didn't point out numerous other advantages his own side has. I think the stat re-establishment at the end was a AWESOME move, and I'd recommend other debaters here to do it as well as it helps cement why his side's superiority is true.
  41.  
  42. Pro wins.
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