#documentation text dump Early Apr - Early May

Adam Whitmore - 04/01/2016
if you do tbs with dk without freeing any kongs you can time the warp just right to cancel tbs, if you do it right warp back where the tag barrel range is and mash z and the warp flips back where you can see dk in the warp animation after that it softlocks
theballaam96 - 04/01/2016
Do you count freeing DK as freeing a Kong?
Adam Whitmore - 04/01/2016
i guess
i guess hes free from the training grounds
and sometimes it makes the warp and the tag barrel invisible
not to be confuse by freeing dk
that i just said there
theballaam96 - 04/01/2016
Well, he's free. But to 'free' him, you either enter a Tag Barrel or hit the Training Grounds switch
Hence if you don't do either of these things, go to Kut Out, and grab another kong, and enter a tag barrel, you'll get a yellow question mark where DK should be
Adam Whitmore - 04/01/2016
i know
Kiwikiller67 - 04/01/2016
https://www.twitch.tv/kiwikiller67/v/57914057 know people have had issues swimming around to get back out from the other side but I dont think anyone tried going to the left which works
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Kiwikiller67

Adam Whitmore - 04/01/2016
that was known for me(edited)
GloriousLiar - 04/01/2016
what were you guys talking about with "gaining control with shockwave" in car race
DigitalVortex - 04/01/2016
Adam, if that's the case, why wouldn't you tell anyone -_-
People have been voiding there for SO LONG
Tiffanyjane - 04/01/2016
Uh, all the people that void there are NLE runners
and that's because they need to void there
I'm confused by this statement
Kiwikiller67 - 04/01/2016
we had a couple bingos where people were trying to get back to the main room
but everyone tried to go swim around to the right
which you cant make but if you go to the left you can. that's all this was supposed to be about
I figured someone had probably done this a while ago but it just isnt well known so I put it here
Tiffanyjane - 04/01/2016
makes enough sense
there's always pause/exit but that works
Kiwikiller67 - 04/01/2016
absolutely true
GloriousLiar - 04/01/2016
Please keep petty arguments out of this channel k thanks
DigitalVortex - 04/01/2016
I didn't know about it. This is the first time I'm hearing of that method to get back inbounds. And i needed it in like 4 different bingos in a row
So its good to know now
That is all
April 7, 2016
Znernicus - 04/07/2016
I found a weird oddity that i didn't know existed... if you charge a shockwave while entering galleon you do the unleash animation when coming out the other side
it doesn't work leaving the level
and it doesn't happen when entering japes for example...
weird
i was under the impression it did nothing through any level portal
GloriousLiar - 04/07/2016
can you do that through normal loading zones?
Znernicus - 04/07/2016
no
some it actually forces you to shockwave when you hit the loading zone
but never any effect on the other side
hipstur - 04/07/2016
i thought someone said that the galleon DK portal was weird before
i remember someone theorizing that perhaps the galleon portal was intended to be underwater? IDK
Znernicus - 04/07/2016
I wonder if that property is the same that would allow you to take objects through loading zones
like if galleon lobby had a boulder, could you get shrunky kong by carrying it in?
Isotarge - 04/07/2016
does it have to be a boulder?
Tried with a steel keg from the mill but it didn't come with me through the portal when entering the level
Tiffanyjane - 04/07/2016
it doesn't have to be a boulder, no
it has been done with a boulder and a vase afaik
I did vase method on VC
April 8, 2016
Connor75 - 04/08/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRQ-Innhgg&nohtml5=False
YouTube
petSM64
[N64] bush push


Adam Whitmore - 04/08/2016
that reminds me of adamclipmore
GloriousLiar - 04/08/2016
i wonder if other clips work like that..
Kiwikiller67 - 04/08/2016
cfox has been doing something similar for a while
Isotarge - 04/08/2016
https://www.twitch.tv/isotarge/v/59266776
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Isotarge

DigitalVortex - 04/08/2016
Whether or not it's known, you can moontail cartwheel with diddy. Doesn't really do anything, but the cartwheel gets the high of a double jump
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/08/2016
it would get you some extra horizontal distance I guess
DigitalVortex - 04/08/2016
http://f.divtx.in/output.mp4(edited)
output
http://f.divtx.in
April 9, 2016
Connor75 - 04/09/2016
My 101% PB gets "double beaver" again in Lanky beaver bother; however, this time it wasn't at the end. I got 2 one after another and the counter went from 14 to 11.
The first time it happened, it had nothing to do with getting multiple beavers in quickly. The counter had just gone from 2 to 0 with 1 beaver.
SecretHumorMan - 04/09/2016
is it possible that some beavers are just worth 2 at random?
as in most are worth just 1, but maybe every so often the game spawns one on purpose that is worth 2.
Znernicus - 04/09/2016
seems unlikely
April 13, 2016
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/13/2016
You can skip ledge clipping into spider boss because tj finds stupid things sometimes
GloriousLiar - 04/13/2016
what do you do instead
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/13/2016
tiny can walk through the wall by a ? box lol
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
Chunky can also walk through a wall lol
I'll highlight in a bit
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
Tiny: https://www.twitch.tv/tiffanyfruit/v/60258598
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Tiffanyfruit

Chunky: https://www.twitch.tv/tiffanyfruit/v/60259744
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Tiffanyfruit

Kiwikiller67 - 04/13/2016
nice clips
Znernicus - 04/13/2016
thats some nice consistency strats
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
I found ways to make them more consistent
splicing video together I'll post it here after
here's the OOB done as every Kong: https://youtu.be/3CbApOp9K9g
YouTube
TJ Blakely
DK64 Mill Back Room OOB


if you don't want to watch it all, Diddy, Tiny and Lanky all work the same
DK you go backwards like he does for everything else
Chunky you do Lanky Bush Push
Adam Whitmore - 04/13/2016
that reminds me of adamclipmore 😃
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
the backwards DK aerial does seem to work fairly often, you're not wrong.
GloriousLiar - 04/13/2016
We should try that elsewhere
Like factory lobby but who knows if that will work
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
been there tried that
though maybe I missed something
EmoArbiter - 04/13/2016
wasn't the original ringrush robot push video done with backwards aerial?
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
I believe so
EmoArbiter - 04/13/2016
I wonder what makes his hitbox wonky enough to just get pushed that easy
GloriousLiar - 04/13/2016
His backside is like really flat
Can push up against walls easily
theballaam96 - 04/13/2016
I'd say there's definitely potential with a push in Factory Lobby
GloriousLiar - 04/13/2016
You say that
But you have no idea how much time has been put into breaking factory lobby
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
^
theballaam96 - 04/13/2016
Yeah, I get that
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
Glorious beat me to it
at one point, I was spending 5 hours a day on average in that stupid room
GloriousLiar - 04/13/2016
Plus rip any% if we find anything
Maybe we should just stop
theballaam96 - 04/13/2016
Especially with the advent of VC and the TBS making 1-kong more viable for VC, I get that Factory Early on VC was (and probably still is) a spree of trying to clip.
Kiwikiller67 - 04/13/2016
I spent a couple hours the other day trying things for factory early with no luck
I didnt get to test around the kasplat box as well as I would have liked to though
GloriousLiar - 04/13/2016
I think the most promising things are the vents
DigitalVortex - 04/13/2016
i was trying to clip out like in helm lobby to no avail earlier today
GloriousLiar - 04/13/2016
Elevator in factory lobby has push potential
It seems to work by getting squeezed between an object and a wall
Tiffanyjane - 04/13/2016
I spent a lot of time with that elevator
DK's model isn't large enough to push out on it
he gets stuck near the front corner and at the back...well there isn't much to do
theballaam96 - 04/13/2016
I've compiled the majority of glitch videos from YouTube/Twitch (obviously there are going to be a few which are out there but haven't been brought to main attention) along with the stuff from the SDA Forum and David Wonn's Site into a spreadsheet in case people need to find a video/description of a glitch somewhere quickly without having to trawl through the YT Glitch Playlist/Search Function. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11f8EBEVmeCtV6CmzL3O1tuL6odTy8aQtbH3skVYaLtM/edit?usp=sharing
Google Docs
Donkey Kong 64 - Glitch History
Important Notices DONKEY KONG 64- GLITCH HISTORY, Last Updated, 13th April 2016 DISCLAIMERS Some glitches are hard to keep track of when they were first discovered. The first version of this took the upload of a video as the initial discovery, unless they were mentioned on David Wonn' s Websi...

Obviously there are a few errors with 'First discovery date' and 'discovered by' as it's tough to determine these things 100% (especially if they're old glitches), and a few of the titles may be a bit meh. However, feel free to edit if there are any errors or things where you have more knowledge than I do (which is likely). Hopefully it will be of some use to someone
April 14, 2016
RingRush - 04/14/2016
do you want us editing this
its going to mess up the sorting
and what page do you want us to edit on
theballaam96 - 04/14/2016
Feel free to edit
As for the pages, doing all 3 would be great, but worst comes to worst, you could do it on the Chronological one, and then I can edit it on the others
RingRush - 04/14/2016
I'll do it all on last page then
I don't feel like sifting through vids but I'll correct some credits I know off the top of my head
theballaam96 - 04/14/2016
Ok, cool
As for sorting, it's easily fixed
RingRush - 04/14/2016
if you are bored enough to do this, you might also check through #documentation and find undocumented glitches
well, I guess tahts silly, since everything in #documenation is documented
but  you know what I mean
theballaam96 - 04/14/2016
Well, I've still got to sift through the LOTAD and add stuff from that
As for the documentation stuff, is everything from this page on that pastebin you made a few months back after Pause Cancel was found?
RingRush - 04/14/2016
don't remember
theballaam96 - 04/14/2016
Fair enough
2dos - 04/14/2016
most of the ones by mine with ? were run_haakon. the tiny cage oob opening in factory was either ringrush or znernicus
RingRush - 04/14/2016
I was learning 101 and really bad at navigating to production room
2dos - 04/14/2016
ok i added that. thanks immensely for making that ballaam
Tiffanyjane - 04/14/2016
Not sure if this was known but here's my useless find for the day https://youtu.be/OK_Q5a0OPvs
YouTube
TJ Blakely
Cancelling


Bismuth - 04/14/2016
#63: Failed Funky Weapons Glitch: you can take this off, it's not really a glitch/find, it's that FWG can write on Files 2 and 3 if you don't check the file, which is what happened (you can see there are files 2 and 3, and I recall one of them being broken shortly after that video)
at the time I didn't know that so I posted the video but I eventually learned about FWG and files 2 and 3
well I guess it's not 100% useless to have there
insane list though
theballaam96 - 04/14/2016
Okey doke. I shall edit that and add TJ's video too. Thanks for the info 😃(edited)
April 15, 2016
Bismuth - 04/15/2016
neat little bit about controls I didn't know about until now
in sniper scope, if you zoom in any amount and then press Z + C-down, it will instantly put the zoom to normal (all the way out)
note that not holding Z and pressing C-down simply exits first person normally
you have to be holding Z for it to do that instead
hipstur - 04/15/2016
didn't know about that, neat i guess
April 16, 2016
theballaam96 - 04/16/2016
Not sure if this is just a coincidental ledge clip https://www.twitch.tv/theballaam96/v/61049695
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theballaam96

It also appears that grabbing ladders before taking your large distance fall stores the damage https://www.twitch.tv/theballaam96/v/61050182
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theballaam96

Also, I've seen the Ring Out Warp with Lanky Phase, but never in Tiny Phase, so I thought I should add that hear too https://www.twitch.tv/theballaam96/v/61050855
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theballaam96

Connor75 - 04/16/2016
I see people get the fall damage on that exact ladder all the time when they dont know any better. I think Kiwi might have gotten that warp in Tiny phase before. But that ledge clip was pretty impressive 😃
Adam Whitmore - 04/16/2016
i saw znernicus done that fall damage storage a while back
XavierR221 - 04/16/2016
nice ledge clipping tho
April 17, 2016
Znernicus - 04/17/2016
yea its easy to take fall damage off a ladder when jumping from Chunky's BP to baboon blast in Fungi, if you don't go far enough... I'm sure it happened to me there
GloriousLiar - 04/17/2016
i see people do it sometimes falling from fungi to W3
they grab a vine and let go and start fall animation again
Isotarge - 04/17/2016
Caves BBlast GB is spawned before completing it at 1393.799, 827.333, 2287.889
It's not dupeable
Only collectable as DK
theballaam96 - 04/17/2016
Around 500 units above the BBlast Pad
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/17/2016
TBS rocketbarrel?
Tiffanyjane - 04/17/2016
for comparison's sake, how high is 500 units?
comparable to coconut switch-w4?
Isotarge - 04/17/2016
first telegrab location to coconut switch platform is exactly 200 units
first telegrab to w4 platform is 700 units
so between those two
snide's 400
Isotarge - 04/17/2016
Update: If you zip there from the start of the level, you can collect it, but if it loads first you can't
theballaam96 - 04/17/2016
So no TBS Rocketbarrel? 😦
The heighest Y value you can get from the NLE/101% Diddy Blueprint Rocketbarrel Clip point is Y=800
27.3 units short
Tiffanyjane - 04/17/2016
not surprised
if you could see it with that rocketbarrel oob then we'd have seen it already
and thanks for the comparison Iso, gonna work a bit on it
Isotarge - 04/17/2016
If you can find a way to get there without loading the bblast chunk you might be able to grab it
but I don't have high hopes
theballaam96 - 04/17/2016
Surely if you're travelling to it, it loads the BBlast chunk?
Tiffanyjane - 04/17/2016
not necessarily
theballaam96 - 04/17/2016
It seems like it's not only the Normal NLE/101% Clip spot which maxes out at y=800. I tried Skewed Rocketbarrel Clip near the Rocketbarrel near Funky's and it maxed out at 800
Seemingly, the only way to get close to y=827.3 is either to Telegrab or use the bounce effect when you go up alot with Rocketbarrel. The bounce effect seems to take you ~820-824
Bismuth - 04/17/2016
miniature timesaver that maybe others knew: you can jump as the cutscene of pufftoss taking damage starts and you will travel much farther during the cutscene - only really useful between phases 4 and 5 or if you're really late and attempt to salvage the key grab
April 19, 2016
theballaam96 - 04/19/2016
Taking a warp during the pan of the camera towards the Kongs during the activation of the Giant Kosha cutscene delays it until the next time round. This can be done repeatedly
Getting this to happen, whilst never viewing the full Kosha Cutscene and never leaving the level causes serious lag when you Monkeyport to the Giant Kosha area (from all the fallen rocks being in the area at once)(edited)
Kiwikiller67 - 04/19/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v84vyWOH2k Damage boost hatch skip on VC with DK. Don't do it. just do robot push
YouTube
Kiwikiller67
DK Damage Boost Hatch Skip on VC


April 21, 2016
theballaam96 - 04/21/2016
Grabbing the GB in the Vultures Talons (Tiny Temple) without killing the bird never lowers the water, but does complete the puzzle
Isotarge - 04/21/2016
Fungi spider miniBoss can be quick killed by wrong grabbing it
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/21/2016
if you leave and come back would the water be lowered?
theballaam96 - 04/21/2016
No
Also the vulture damages you too
So not only is it difficult to grab, it also makes entering the Battle Pad impossible forever (Unless there's a way to enter that pad with the water up)
Ok, correction. it does lower. You just have to leave the entire level?
If you kill the bird after doing the quick grab, the water immediately lowers (along with it playing the Oh Banana sound)
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/21/2016
do you get the dance if you grab it from him?
theballaam96 - 04/21/2016
No
Think it's because of the height thing
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/21/2016
and I'm guessing the water lowering cutscene never plays
theballaam96 - 04/21/2016
If you're directly above the pad when you grab it, you might get the dance
Basically, grab, No Dance, No Cutscene. If you leave the level/void, then re-enter Tiny Temple. Water Lowered, no Cutscene showing. If you kill the bird after quick grab, Sound + pretty much instant cutscene
April 22, 2016
Mouse - 04/22/2016
I think we found in our flag research that a quite of few flag checks don't occur until you reenter the level. another example is the japes cave bars will lower if you collect diddy's GB and exit/enter but other LZ's won't trigger that
April 23, 2016
hipstur - 04/23/2016
i done that 3 times
Adam Whitmore - 04/23/2016
i failed getting giant kosha cutscene skip today and in the cutscene there are bunch of falling rocks in the cutscene  and it completely lags the cutscene(edited)
looks like i completely stored the falling rocks section
theballaam96 - 04/23/2016
What way did you intend to skip the GK Cutscene?
Adam Whitmore - 04/23/2016
lankys switch to beetle race
i think its because i hit the switch too early when that falling rocks music starts
theballaam96 - 04/23/2016
Interesting
Kiwikiller67 - 04/23/2016
we've had that before in runs where you are too slow climbing
April 24, 2016
Adam Whitmore - 04/24/2016
GK cutscene skip also works with lankys switch to go to ice tomato minigame
GloriousLiar - 04/24/2016
Grant Kirkhope cutscene skip?
Adam Whitmore - 04/24/2016
giant kosha
not grant kirkhope
DigitalVortex - 04/24/2016
He was joking -_-'
April 25, 2016
hitokage220 - 04/25/2016
you cant grab darkroom GB early in JP version
April 26, 2016
Adam Whitmore - 04/26/2016
do you mean in factory?
hitokage220 - 04/26/2016
yes
Adam Whitmore - 04/26/2016
ok
Hey did you know that you can get on the beehive in fungi by moonkicking onto it or some other ways in the main area
markusman64ds 🐵 - 04/26/2016
beehive?
Adam Whitmore - 04/26/2016
under the clock tree(edited)
where you climb a thing
like you stand on it and when it rises up you clip into the beehive and keep your height
April 27, 2016
Connor75 - 04/27/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quNNkZ_g5CM
YouTube
Connor75
Floating DK


DigitalVortex - 04/27/2016
Amarec 4 WutFace
Connor75 - 04/27/2016
I didn't know what I was doing back then...
Adam Whitmore - 04/27/2016
why did you hid that video?
Connor75 - 04/27/2016
It didn't seem important enough to make public on my Youtube at the time.
Adam Whitmore - 04/27/2016
a lot of times i forget to tell what glitches i found
because idk what was wrong with me 😦
April 30, 2016
Znernicus - 04/30/2016
so I just that glitch/timesaver when turning on the lighthouse and the GB cutscene sorta plays before it looks outside
and I think I noticed that the lightning effect didn't power on in the pull the level part? maybe that's what caused it?
still no idea how to replicate it other than it just happens sometimes
Adam Whitmore - 04/30/2016
does it work with isg every time?
Znernicus - 04/30/2016
I have not tested under ISG
Adam Whitmore - 04/30/2016
like i know it works with isg
Znernicus - 04/30/2016
i think its independent of ISG being active or not
Adam Whitmore - 04/30/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HYyWVM4v-E
YouTube
IntroStoryGlitch
Lighthouse Banana without Ship


Znernicus - 04/30/2016
interesting... well it's just the part at 4:21 that I'm interested in
getting that cutscene to begin
Adam Whitmore - 04/30/2016
oh thats what i meant
May 3, 2016
Kiwikiller67 - 05/03/2016
https://youtu.be/PLtJ0bMeVNM Not sure if this was known
YouTube
Kiwikiller67
Clip into Power Shed

RingRush - 05/03/2016
done in the lotad
Kiwikiller67 - 05/03/2016
ah rip. must have missed that
Tiffanyjane - 05/03/2016
I (stupidly) did that in Factory 100% as well
sorry Kiwi
Kiwikiller67 - 05/03/2016
all good
i was trying to do something else and fell in once so figured I'd make sure
Adam Whitmore - 05/03/2016
wait was it a switch kick?
Kiwikiller67 - 05/03/2016
yeah it was
figured it was already known
Adam Whitmore - 05/03/2016
i thought it would be a different way to clip into a power shed but its not
theballaam96 - 05/03/2016
If DK is even partially in water, he doesn't get knocked back nearly as much. The knockback distance is nearly negligible
May 4, 2016
DigitalVortex - 05/04/2016
https://www.twitch.tv/stds_catchemall/v/64438121(edited)
Twitch
STDs_CatchEmAll

theballaam96 - 05/04/2016
Interrupting the total updating after picking up the fairy delays the totals update

https://www.twitch.tv/theballaam96/v/64593468
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theballaam96

May 6, 2016
Isotarge - 05/06/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlRgUIgAFE8
YouTube
Isaac Miell
DK64: Upwarps & weird second floor (crashes on real consoles)


There also appears to be a fake floor at 99,999 associated with pads, gun switches, and simian slam switches(edited)
again 99,999 appears in memory many times