5:54 AM
<Mishie> Oh goody, time to read logs.
6:02 AM <Inksword> To answer you question Thal. I ate them.
6:03 AM
<•Thalia> So you had the power pellets?
6:03 AM <Inksword> Yep. They taste bad tho. 1/10 would not recommend
6:03 AM
<Mallmann> Have you not been around for years, Duke?
6:05 AM <TheWhiteDuke> I've been around for... maybe just under a year?
6:06 AM I managed to slip in just before what felt like a new wave
6:06 AM
<Mishie> Well
6:06 AM <Ryneron> Until half of the campaigns got cancelled or put on hiatus
6:06 AM
<Mishie> Those were some fascinating things that were said
6:07 AM Gotta say, out of everyone involved, Bow is the one that I feel the most sorry for.
6:08 AM
<•Nick> Just because of how many apps there are? Or something else?
6:09 AM
<Mishie> Hmm, kinda because of the amount of apps.
6:09 AM But it was also interesting seeing how people were already moving to influence who he should take, and how he should decide.
6:09 AM
<•Nick> Well, he asked
6:10 AM
<Mishie> Yeah
6:11 AM Honestly it's shit like this that makes me feel like he would have been way better off with anonymous app submissions.
6:11 AM But it's too late for that now
6:11 AM
<Belle> You make an event out of it, don’t be surprised when people make an event out of it too.
6:11 AM
<Mishie> Yupe
6:11 AM
<Belle> Most people just pick the ones they like and announce.
6:11 AM Easy.
6:12 AM <Inksword> Bow’s provable used to his campaigns being bloodbaths in the app stage
6:12 AM
<Mishie> Yeah, I just feel sorry for the people that get told that they have a good app, but since they weren't new enough that the app doesn't matter.
6:12 AM <Inksword> Were we supposed to do an actual voting stage type deal?
6:12 AM
<Mishie> As far as I'm aware, Bow was supposed to be the only and final judge.
6:13 AM <Inksword> Okay
6:13 AM And he’s looking for new people now??
6:13 AM <Sidezero> No, but people were suggesting he prioritize new people.
6:14 AM <Inksword> Ahh
6:14 AM <Sidezero> I’m with Mish on this though
6:14 AM <Ryneron> Which can be a mixed bag
6:14 AM <Inksword> He should prioritize people he’d enjoy running and would make a good story IMO
6:14 AM
<Mishie> Yeah
6:14 AM hard agree
6:15 AM I'd 100% prefer him to pick people that'd make him want to actually finish the story.
6:15 AM <Inksword> I’d rather not be picked but have awesome logs to read
6:15 AM <Sidezero>  I don't understand how there'd be any other requirement.
6:15 AM
<Mishie> Especially with what happened last time
6:15 AM <Ryneron> What happened then?
6:16 AM Lots of pc death?
6:16 AM <Sidezero> Newbies.
6:16 AM <Ryneron> Lots of newbie pc death, then?
6:16 AM
<Mishie> Technically yes
6:16 AM
<•Thalia> I think Mish is thinking of someone specific.
6:16 AM <Sidezero> I might be thinking of the wrong thing, but some guy tried to be the first person to canonically name the Simurgh.
6:17 AM
<Mishie> I'm actually not even thinking of just that one incident
6:17 AM <Inksword> Unreliable Newbie Syndrome?
6:18 AM There was an incident?
6:18 AM <Druza> The thing sid just mentioned
6:18 AM It was really dumb
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6:18 AM <Inksword> Ohhh
6:19 AM I missed that message
6:19 AM
<Mishie> Basically a new player had some very much so meta influence RP, Bow wasn't very happy with it and ended up asking for a retcon.  The player did not take it well.
6:20 AM
<Forge|Hiking> In WD or PD?
6:20 AM
<Mishie> Not that I'm saying that something like that would happen again
6:20 AM WD
6:20 AM This was years ago
6:21 AM I think there were also issues with a few other players like uh...  Shit I think his name was lightningsteps?  He was in a multitrigger with Lexicon.
6:22 AM <TheWhiteDuke> I think personally that new faces have their merits - less echo-chamber, building new relationships across platforms/groups. It certainly does come with increased risks though.
6:24 AM But yeah, good story comes first (and part of that is likelihood to conclude said story)
6:24 AM <Inksword> I would be interested in meeting some of the discord group
6:27 AM Thalia → •Thal|Fistress
6:55 AM <Inksword> Last day of work before school and my schedule stabilizes. Adios all good luck with Mike End!
6:55 AM Mile End damnit phone
6:55 AM <Ryneron> See you later then
7:02 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Mike's End
7:02 AM One NPC named Mike and we have to try and kill him
7:02 AM
<Wildboo> The awkward player wasn't lightningsteps in Lausanne
7:02 AM
<Mishie> yeah
7:02 AM I just remembered that Lexi killed him for some reason, not too sure about the backstory though.
7:03 AM <Druza> The sjw trigger wasnt it?
7:03 AM One wanted to hero the other to villain so lexi killed him iirc
7:03 AM
<Wildboo> That was a thing too.  But I think it was ~relatively~ ok.  The players ended up intensely at odds in goals despite initially wanting to pair up.
7:03 AM
<Mishie> yeah sounds about right
7:04 AM
<Wildboo> The bad incident had to do with a player just sorta going, "I walk up to the simurgh and go crazy, I become homicidal"
7:04 AM
<Mishie> mhm
7:06 AM <Ryneron> Yikes
7:06 AM Forge|Hiking → Forgery
7:06 AM
<Forgery> I feel like that's the same as telling the GM to do "Rocks Fall" and giving their character over as an NPC
7:07 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> That session had a lot of problems.
7:07 AM
<Shadewalker> So /that's/ what was up with the Manticora player. I was always confused why the crazy NPC had the first entry on the used trigger table. I just figured there was a first draft of Lausaune that hadn't been published.
7:08 AM
<Forgery> Oh, btw, who wanted to talk with the discord people?
7:08 AM Someone brought it up
7:08 AM
— Mishie shrugs
7:09 AM
<Forgery> well, if its brought up again, lmk. I can give links
7:12 AM <Sidezero> It was Ink I think
7:12 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Shadewalker, wrong person, IIRC
7:13 AM
<Forgery> Inksword if you want links to the two discords, just pm me when you're free.
7:13 AM
<Shadewalker> Damn. Thought I had pulled some Sherlock moves there.
7:20 AM
<jamie> Hi I am new here, heard that bow is running a game, am I too late to be putting an app in
7:20 AM
<Forgery> Yeah, sorry
7:20 AM Bow is compiling the submitted apps now, not accepting new ones
7:21 AM
<jamie> No worries
7:25 AM <Ryneron> Btw forge, can we resume my SRock session another day?  I need to get a lot of work done on an assignment tomorrow, so I'd like to get to bed at a decent time.
7:26 AM
<Forgery> Sure
7:26 AM <Ryneron> Thanks
7:26 AM
<Forgery> Next time you're free, just pm me
7:26 AM Get that work done
7:26 AM <Ryneron> Ok
7:26 AM
<Wildboo> Sorry Jamie
7:29 AM
<•Nick> Welcome to the channel anyway!
7:29 AM There's lot of fun Pact Dice not run by Bow too
7:30 AM
<Forgery> ^
7:30 AM
<waxpapers> games start relatively often
7:30 AM depending on the time of year
7:30 AM <Ryneron> When was the last campaign that got started, duluth?
7:30 AM <Druza> Mile end
7:31 AM :^)
7:31 AM <Ryneron> Aside from that one
7:31 AM <Druza> Duluth i think yeah
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7:31 AM <TheWhiteDuke> Hey Jamie :)
7:34 AM
<jamie> Hey Duke
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7:39 AM <•Camtist> Buh
7:40 AM Driving is an awful, awful thing
7:40 AM
<Forgery> yee
7:40 AM
<waxpapers> ayup
7:44 AM
<Mishie> wat
7:44 AM Driving is great
7:46 AM
<waxpapers> uh
7:47 AM I mean, for short distances, sure
7:47 AM but spending an entire day on the highway is a special kind of hell, even without traffic
7:47 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Boo driving.
7:47 AM
<Mallmann> I like driving on highways
7:48 AM And the constant adrenaline of possibly dying at any moment
7:49 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Isn't that just life in your country?
7:49 AM <TheWhiteDuke> Yeah, I'm in the pro-driving camp. Especially if there's someone else in the car :)
7:50 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Weird.
7:53 AM
<Mishie> Yeah long distance driving with a friend is hype
7:53 AM <•Camtist> Gosh darn Nomads
7:53 AM
<Mishie> I've had some great conversations
7:54 AM Really connected with people
7:54 AM
<Mallmann> Thal, ouch
7:54 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Visiting my mom is a 2.5 hour drive alone. Sometimes with no radio for part of it because of the damned hills.
7:54 AM
<Mallmann> Not really, but okay
7:55 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Mallmann, I might be biased just because one of my professors taught in a poor area of Brazil once upon a time and she mentioned she had to get permission from the local drug lord to do it. Really colors things for me.
7:56 AM
<•Nick> I sing constantly in the car
7:56 AM which is why I like driving
7:57 AM without that I don't really
7:59 AM
<Mallmann> I guess politics would be a better place to discuss that
8:18 AM
— Belle has a usb hookup for their phone they sing along to
8:18 AM
<•Nick> yeah I just bluetooth
8:18 AM
<Belle> Driving is great but it also sucks. Very tiring.
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8:54 AM
<Belle> $refresh cards
8:54 AM
<[ATM]> Card cache updated.
8:55 AM
<Belle> $madlibs practitionername
8:55 AM
<[ATM]> Jeannine Olson the King
8:55 AM
<Belle> $madlibs practitionername
8:55 AM
<[ATM]> Agnes Drake the Queen
8:55 AM
<Belle> $madlibs practitionername
8:55 AM
<[ATM]> Clarice Little
8:55 AM
<Mishie> I love it
8:55 AM
<Belle> $familiar
8:55 AM $madlibs familiar
8:55 AM
<[ATM]> a goblin named Felchcrank
8:55 AM
<Belle> $madlibs familiar
8:55 AM
<[ATM]> an elemental of Shrink taking the form of a Hawk
8:55 AM
<Belle> $madlibs familiar
8:55 AM
<[ATM]> Empress Elias Carter
8:55 AM
<Belle> $madlibs familiar
8:55 AM
<[ATM]> a nightmare of chains
8:55 AM
<waxpapers> shrink elemental? huh
8:55 AM <TheWhiteDuke> A nightmare of chains sounds awesome
8:56 AM
<waxpapers> yeah, it does
8:56 AM
<Belle> Those are the big three. I have ideas for 'familiar'.
8:56 AM PractionerName is just gonna be a bit clunky with the titles, given how the list is constructed.
8:57 AM <TheWhiteDuke> $madlibs familiar
8:57 AM
<[ATM]> a nightmare of black hole
8:58 AM <Druza> $madlibs familiar
8:58 AM
<[ATM]> a goblin named Felchpeel
8:58 AM <Druza> Love it
8:58 AM <TheWhiteDuke> Could you have a familiar take the form of a Roomba?
8:58 AM
<waxpapers> is a roomba not a nightmare of a black hole?
8:58 AM <TheWhiteDuke> Exactly
8:59 AM
<waxpapers> moving, with a twisted semblance of sentience. endlessly consuming, never growing. not alive, but never dying
8:59 AM ...unless you forget to charge it
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9:04 AM
<Forgery> $madlibs pactnpc
9:04 AM
<[ATM]> Winford Chaney is a practitioner of Host Magic. Their implement is the sword, and they are a young woman from a powerful family.
9:04 AM
<Forgery> $madlibs pactnpc
9:04 AM
<[ATM]> Rosemarie Ellis the Commodore is a practitioner of War Magic. Their implement is the torch, and they are a middle-aged man from a family' that consists of only allied Others.
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9:06 AM
<jamie> $madlibs familiar
9:06 AM
<[ATM]> a Spindly Cat
9:06 AM
<marr965> Uh.
9:06 AM Hi, all, again.
9:06 AM <Ryneron> Hey marr
9:06 AM <Druza> hi
9:06 AM
<marr965> Did I miss anything related to Mile End?
9:07 AM
<Shadewalker> Bow's making his decision tonight.
9:07 AM <Kippyster> Wildbow is going through all apps and narrowing them down
9:07 AM
<Forgery> Top 5-10 he said
9:07 AM
<marr965> Hokay.
9:07 AM
<Forgery> Also, Kippy, try not to use his name
9:07 AM
<Mishie> Well, he's going for a shortlist first.
9:07 AM
<Forgery> It pings
9:07 AM <Kippyster> oh shit
9:07 AM
<Mishie> yeah rip Kippy's chances
9:07 AM <TheWhiteDuke> I mean just rip kippy really
9:08 AM <Kippyster> nah i think he's still set to boo
9:08 AM <TheWhiteDuke> Oh u rite
9:08 AM <Kippyster> i should be safe
9:08 AM
<Forgery> yea but bad habit
9:08 AM <Kippyster> true true
9:08 AM
<waxpapers> quick, delete your account and start a new life as sippyster
9:08 AM <TheWhiteDuke> You're lucky, boy
9:08 AM ;)
9:08 AM <Kippyster> i could never
9:08 AM it's wierd cuz i usually do WhickerBasket , WasteBasket, or WonderBread
9:09 AM
<waxpapers> wibbledict bumbowbatch
9:09 AM
<Wildboo> Good thing is that I'm online as Wildboo
9:09 AM
<Mishie> allegedly
9:09 AM <Kippyster> ostensibly
9:10 AM — Ryneron squints at the impersonator
9:12 AM <Kippyster> there
9:12 AM new bee, new mee
9:13 AM though the change wont show on mobile
9:13 AM
<marr965> I'll admit, I have occasionally refered to WB as Wurbleburm.
9:14 AM <Kippyster> i kinda have to stick to words and phrases that are real things
9:14 AM like Warband or Windbreaker
9:18 AM
<Forgery> Wimbledon
9:19 AM <Kippyster> Wetdreams
9:19 AM <TheWhiteDuke> WaterBed
9:20 AM <Druza> WetBirth
9:20 AM
<Forgery> Wild boar
9:20 AM <Ryneron> WibbleBang
9:21 AM
<Mishie> yikes
9:22 AM
<Forgery> yikes features neither w nor b
9:23 AM
<waxpapers> wibes
9:23 AM
<Mishie> And yet, I still yikes.
9:23 AM
<Forgery> yikes
9:23 AM
<waxpapers> wikeb
9:23 AM
<Forgery> Mish, did you submit an app btw
9:24 AM <Sidezero> No.
9:24 AM
<Mishie> hahahano
9:24 AM God no
9:24 AM
<Forgery> Oh
9:24 AM
<waxpapers> wyclef bean
9:24 AM
<Mishie> For a variety of reasons
9:25 AM Such as: timezone/tabletabling issues, the fact that Bow specifically said that shit would be timed and I a tendency to take a while to post because I like to think about shit and because I can get pretty wordy, and also the fact that I'm not really keen for another high stakes/stress game where I have to give a shit about not just characterization, but also about having to consistently write at a decent level.
9:26 AM
<Forgery> Ah
9:26 AM <Kippyster> wax we need to get in music one of these days
9:26 AM you and me
9:26 AM wyclef jean and vulf
9:26 AM man to man, heart to heart
9:26 AM
<Mishie> And to be perfectly honest, even though I feel fairly confident about making a decent character concept, I'm not as confident about actually being able to pull it off faithfully.
9:27 AM
<Forgery> Fair enough
9:27 AM <Kippyster> mish id just try not to worry about it
9:28 AM
<Mishie> As such, I felt like it would be unfair to Bow for me to apply when I don't think it'd end up being fun for either of us if I somehow got it.
9:28 AM <Kippyster> mish i think if you tried your best, it'd end up good
9:28 AM
— Mishie shrugs
9:28 AM
<Mishie> That's nice and all, but I know my strengths and I'm not afraid to acknowledge my weaknesses.
9:29 AM <Kippyster> fair enough
9:29 AM for me, if I focused on every possible point of failure I'd psych myself out
9:29 AM there are only as many of those points as you imagine there to be
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9:30 AM
<Mishie> tbh that's why I really enjoyed playing Microscope with Cam, Thal and Belle.  Since that sort of shit played to my strengths.
9:30 AM <Kippyster> what's the benefit to microscope?
9:31 AM the limited omnipotence? the wider lens?
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9:31 AM
<Mishie> The fact that I'm not expect to write a mini story for a post
9:31 AM <Kippyster> ahh
9:32 AM
<Mishie> And can just stick to spitballing ideas and relying on shit like dialogue+action to get through the rp segments
9:32 AM <Kippyster> true
9:32 AM wd and pd are much slower games of hot potato
9:32 AM
<Mishie> Yupe
9:33 AM Like it was straight up said unironically that PD is basically collab fanfic
9:33 AM <Kippyster> well i mean
9:33 AM
<Mishie> And I mean that in a good way!
9:34 AM It's two people writing a story together via RP
9:34 AM <Kippyster> bell will embellish anything to make it feel more like fanfiction
9:34 AM
<Mishie> But that means that y'know, you're kind of expected to live up to a minimum level of quality
9:35 AM <Kippyster> yeah
9:35 AM
<Forgery> That's why you need to pass the application process to qualify
9:35 AM <Inksword> So does that make a campaign Bow runs or plays in half-fanfic?
9:35 AM
<Mishie> And I honestly don't feel like I could do that for Bow's game, especially with a time limit.
9:35 AM <Kippyster> i think im fairly comfortable with that form of writing
9:36 AM taking that little spark of inspiration and only developing to a little bit
9:36 AM
<Mishie> Forgery: ehhh, I feel like those are two different things.  Similar, but not the same.
9:36 AM <Kippyster> i always struggle in the longer form, anyways
9:36 AM yeah forge we had a lot of time to refine the applications
9:37 AM the first version i wrote and placed had a lot smaller a chance of cutting it then what i have now
9:37 AM
<Mishie> That and there's a difference between describing a character and writing them.
9:37 AM
<Forgery> That's honestly fair
9:37 AM
<Mishie> It's the difference between Worm and Taylor's wiki page.
9:37 AM If that makes sense
9:38 AM
<Forgery> I understand what you mean, Mish.
9:41 AM
<Mishie> But hey, those are just my personal reasons for not applying.
9:41 AM I've had a ton of fun discussing characters with people and helping with their apps
9:45 AM
<Shadewalker> Even if I don't get in, I can't wait to see more semi-canonical Pact information.
9:45 AM These are exciting times.
9:45 AM
<Forgery> Also a great benefit
9:45 AM <Inksword> I’m very curious to see who gets in. I’m fairly doubtful I will but I’m hoping we get some colorful characters to watch.
9:45 AM
<Forgery> Thal/Cam/Duke are my expected top 3.
9:46 AM idk on the other 2 slots; maybe Nic?
9:46 AM <Kippyster> there was discussion about that crowd
9:46 AM the veterans have wrote what are probably the best apps of the bunch
9:46 AM
<Forgery> I know, but Bow said 2 newbies was what he was going for, hence why I'm unsure on the last 2
9:47 AM <Kippyster> did he?
9:47 AM i guess those are wild cards
9:47 AM
<Forgery> Depends if Duke counts as a new comer or not
9:47 AM <Kippyster> which is a pretty good way to deal it out
9:47 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> #BigThree
9:47 AM <Inksword> Thal has very strong character voices
9:47 AM
<Forgery> Who's Mirio?
9:47 AM
<Mishie> I'm kinda curious about what's considered a new person
9:48 AM
<Forgery> same
9:48 AM
<Mishie> Because I'm pretty sure that there's more than a few apps sitting there from people that have never played a session, but have been around for years
9:48 AM <Inksword> I think I’ve been around just long enough to not be one anymore haha
9:48 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Forgery, probably Duke
9:48 AM I'd read Cam's character as more shy.
9:48 AM
<Forgery> The only potential hesitation I see with Duke is availability
9:48 AM And yeah, but Duke's character is mean
9:48 AM <TheWhiteDuke> :O
9:48 AM
<Forgery> am I wrong
9:49 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> He ain't no Suneater, though.
9:49 AM <•Camtist> Gail’s just got enough on her plate as is
9:49 AM <TheWhiteDuke> ... I'm not a practitioner yet, so YEAH
9:49 AM SO WRONG
9:49 AM
<Forgery> Gail is in Jail
9:49 AM <•Camtist> At least, that’s probably what she tells herself
9:49 AM <Kippyster> i havent really considered schedules yet, but I remember seeing someone's available times and going "oh thats a hell no for me"
9:50 AM
<•Thal|Fistress> Could be Duke. He's an Aussie
9:50 AM <Kippyster> also i just realized that wax named his character after the psyhic kid from legion of nothing
9:51 AM also thal hell yeah that was definitely duke
9:51 AM
<Mishie> Wow racist
9:51 AM <Kippyster> but duke's wed, fri, and sat times arent nearly as bad
9:51 AM
<Mishie> Wtf is wrong with you kippy
9:52 AM <Kippyster> wait is daniel's last name not cohen in legion of nothing
9:52 AM am i racist?
9:52 AM
<Forgery> Racist for hating Australians
9:52 AM <TheWhiteDuke> Yeah - my best availabilities aren't great for most people (though could work with European folks)
9:53 AM <Kippyster> nah only 2am-8am block doesnt jive duke
9:54 AM the other times work great
9:55 AM
<Mishie> oh that reminds me
9:55 AM <TheWhiteDuke> But yeah - I have very reasonable blocks too, some of the week
9:55 AM
<Mishie> Forgery, you were the one that was talking to all the discord people right?
9:55 AM
<Forgery> I'm on the discords, yeah
9:55 AM why
9:55 AM
<Mishie> I'm kinda curious, were they doing anything like all the feedback shit that was going on here?
9:55 AM
<Forgery> not really?
9:55 AM
<Mishie> huh
9:56 AM Interesting
9:56 AM that's a shame I guess
9:56 AM
<Forgery> Bow gave archetypes, and then offered some basic QA
9:56 AM There wasn't as intense a focus on making better apps on either discord
9:56 AM
<Mishie> Mhm
9:56 AM
<Forgery> Only other one I know who came from the discords is Marr
9:56 AM
<Mishie> Yeah
9:56 AM
<Forgery> and they came here to work on it
9:56 AM
<Mishie> They were really active here
10:01 AM <Ryneron> Hopefully they stick around
10:01 AM We could always use more people
10:01 AM
<Forgery> yeah
10:02 AM
<Mishie> realtalk
10:03 AM <Kippyster> yeah mish?
10:03 AM — Sidezero puts on protective suit
10:03 AM
<Mishie> If Bow decides to make decisions on who to take based on shit not in the app, I'd fully support those that went the extra mile and join the server to not only improve their own apps, but also contributed to help each others.
10:04 AM
<Forgery> I mean, its kinda common courtesy to help with other apps, no?
10:04 AM
<Mishie> Yes
10:05 AM joined the server*
10:06 AM And yeah Forgery, but I'd much rather praise those that did it as opposed to disparaging those that didn't bother
10:06 AM
<Forgery> Ah
10:09 AM
<Mishie> And hell, even if they don't make it into this specific campaign, I doubt that they'd be forgotten when someone else decides to run a game.