1.28.16 TC2

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[17:48:27] <@NeoZEROX> I just see Ava with a lot shipping already. >>
[17:49:09] <DSS> meanwhile her foil has none
[17:49:24] <@NeoZEROX> Ellie?
[17:50:09] <DSS> right
[17:50:21] <@NeoZEROX> Also I'm going ahead put this out there
[17:50:35] <@NeoZEROX> I she Cyrus X Lust
[17:50:43] <@NeoZEROX> *see
[17:51:32] <DSS> ( à° _à°  )
[17:51:54] <@NeoZEROX> If he like his father no doubt he would wanna protect her.
[17:53:06] <DSS> (´_ゝ`)
[17:53:16] <@NeoZEROX> Nyeh heh heh
[17:53:42] <DSS> ୧༼ಠ益ಠ╭∩╮༽
[17:54:00] <@NeoZEROX> lololol
[17:56:01] <@SilverCrono> .-.
[17:57:45] <DSS> NeoZEROX: how do you see those two together?
[18:01:31] <@NeoZEROX> They're close age, and like his father he wont care what kinda person Lust is just knowing she is a good person. Beside if his sister would be able befriend Gluttony surely he can get along with Lust knowing now all CoS are bad.
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[18:19:06] <Armageddon11> hey
[18:19:47] <Armageddon11> whatd i miss?
[18:20:12] <@SilverCrono> ohi
[18:20:29] <@SilverCrono> quite a bit... but basically we all realized raevyn is a crow spy
[18:20:36] <@SilverCrono> so 8bit made his planning page
[18:21:16] <Armageddon11> yeah but "hired by King Ethan"? DSS jossed that when i spoke with him
[18:21:53] <Armageddon11> if anything it should just say Asteria, not the King specifically
[18:22:43] <Armageddon11> they hire Spymasters for a reason. like Vainia did
[18:24:16] <@SilverCrono> i didnt know this, i just wrote what i saw D:
[18:24:20] <Armageddon11> also why is Locations in quotes? are they only existing in those locations ironically?
[18:24:35] <@SilverCrono> 8bit did that part
[18:28:17] <Armageddon11> i... think im out of stuff to complain about
[18:28:27] <Armageddon11> for now, anyway
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[18:39:35] <DSS> I mean, I guess he could have hired him, but it's really unlikely for two reasons:
[18:39:59] <DSS> 1) Ethan has a policy of not negotiating with known enemies
[18:40:16] <DSS> 2) He'd honestly probably rather take down the Crows himself
[18:41:59] <Armageddon11> wb
[18:42:21] <DSS> ty
[18:44:57] <Armageddon11> i dont think i follow the negotiating thing
[18:46:20] <Armageddon11> in the sense that i would assume Raevyn's role would be leaking inside information on the Crows to Asteria rather than anything diplomatic. why hire a merc for that?
[18:47:01] <DSS> I'm saying Ethan wouldn't hire a known enemy at all, though what your saying makes sense as well
[18:47:34] <Armageddon11> so you mean Raevyn is a known enemy of Asteria? How?
[18:48:55] <@SilverCrono> dss are u saying raevyn was already a crow who got hired to spy
[18:49:02] <@SilverCrono> thus why ethan would disapprove?
[18:49:30] <@SilverCrono> bc so far i thought raevyn was an asterian dude who was paid to infiltrate the crows from the start, thus he isnt an enemy at all
[18:49:32] <DSS> He's a Crow, or he was
[18:49:42] <DSS> had some association with them
[18:49:46] <Armageddon11> his bio says he was never one
[18:49:48] <DSS> assuming he joined and later left
[18:49:57] <Armageddon11> that he escaped instead of joining them
[18:49:59] <DSS> He's listed under Chaeron on the TC2 page
[18:50:14] <@SilverCrono> well... thats where the crows are, so if he's spying on them, he's kinda gotta be there
[18:50:20] <Armageddon11> because of the whole "hired to be a spy" thing i would assume
[18:50:28] <DSS> like that was made obvious
[18:50:46] <Armageddon11> you seem defensive
[18:50:48] <@SilverCrono> it is in his bio .-.
[18:51:04] <DSS> His bio which no one read before today
[18:51:14] <Armageddon11> aint that the truth
[18:51:32] <DSS> I didn't think it was wrong to assume everyone listed under Chaeron would be a Crow
[18:51:38] <@SilverCrono> tru, which is why we're making sure we dont overlook important stuff like that now
[18:51:49] <Armageddon11> no, but i did point it out to you earlier today
[18:51:59] <@SilverCrono> u werent, but now we all know he's not a crow, so he doesnt have to be asteria's enemy
[18:52:18] <DSS> either I misunderstood or it wasn't made clear, since I still think he's a crow
[18:52:18] <@SilverCrono> (point of order: id still like to know whats going on in new trailia)
[18:52:48] <Armageddon11> the former
[18:54:14] <Armageddon11> truthfully i think the fact we dont have short character explanations on the main page is a mistake
[18:54:17] <@SilverCrono> so again, was raevyn an asterian hired to spy? or a crow hired to leak
[18:54:24] <@SilverCrono> arma: i agree
[18:54:40] <Armageddon11> its just a long list of silly fantasy names and places
[18:54:41] <DSS> didn't you guys just drill into me that he's not a crow?
[18:54:49] <@NeoZEROX> Cluna should be logging on soon just ask her when she comes in
[18:55:01] <@SilverCrono> you just said you still think he's a crow so i wanna confirm things
[18:55:07] <Armageddon11> [23:52] <Armageddon11> the former
[18:55:15] <DSS> don;t be a dick about it arma
[18:55:42] <Armageddon11> that one was aimed at crono
[18:56:12] <Armageddon11> also shut u
[18:56:13] <Armageddon11> p
[18:56:37] <@NeoZEROX> Damn
[18:57:36] <Armageddon11> although actually that answer is neither, since Raevyn isn't Asterian?
[18:59:08] <Armageddon11> his story would make no sense if he were, since Chaeron invading Asterian settlements would be a game changer
[19:03:28] <DSS> let's just put this on hold and wait for cluna
[19:04:21] <Armageddon11> truthfully i also think it's weird we're focusing so much on this one character today
[19:07:11] <@NeoZEROX> Especially when owner not here
[19:07:19] <@NeoZEROX> Nyeh heh heh!
[19:10:30] <DSS> why do you keep doing that laugh
[19:11:03] <Armageddon11> he has a skeleton inside of him
[19:11:26] <@NeoZEROX> Don't we all have skeletons inside of us?
[19:11:40] <DSS> oh, its a dumb undertale thing
[19:11:47] <Armageddon11> dunno, think i lost mine somewhere
[19:12:02] <@NeoZEROX> Don't call it dumb until you actually play it.
[19:12:50] <Armageddon11> in this context he's right
[19:13:47] <Armageddon11> also now i have that song stuck in my head
[19:14:46] <@NeoZEROX> It so fucking catchy
[19:14:57] <DSS> I'm not calling the game dumb
[19:15:16] <DSS> but rather the explosion in popularity and all the fan junk that goes with it
[19:15:23] <DSS> fans ruin pretty much everything
[19:17:45] <@NeoZEROX> Looks bight side of this, they finally shut up with Five Nights at Freddy's
[19:18:06] <Armageddon11> the FNaF RPG came out like a week ago
[19:18:45] <@NeoZEROX> Ah shit. >>
[19:19:38] <Armageddon11> it apparently got okay reviews, but the creator took it down a few days later out of the realization the game was too rushed
[19:20:10] <DSS> only like a whole month early
[19:20:23] <@NeoZEROX> He does keep rushing them out
[19:20:32] <Armageddon11> everyone was offered a full refund and the re-released version will be free for everyone
[19:22:27] <Armageddon11> which is, ya know, something he didnt have to do. i appreciate that hed go above and beyond like that
[19:23:05] <Armageddon11> i doubt ill play it even if its free tho, im pretty burned out on the franchise
[19:23:23] <Armageddon11> 5 games + a novel + a film is just too much
[19:24:05] <@NeoZEROX> I don't think I'll play them, I hate jumpscares, it cheap way scared people
[19:24:19] <Armageddon11> for FnaF3 that's true
[19:24:39] <Armageddon11> that game throws out jumpscares like candy
[19:25:51] <Armageddon11> in the other games, the jumpscares are a punishment, not a cheap scare tactic. they happen when you lose
[19:26:58] <@NeoZEROX> Still don't like them.
[19:27:20] <Armageddon11> aka theyre the payoff of the tension the game builds in other ways rather than being there to create tension (tho fear of them is one of those wars)
[19:27:35] <Armageddon11> yeah whatever
[19:28:49] <Armageddon11> that shit is far for everyone, not even really for me. i mostly stuck around for the story
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[19:29:23] <Armageddon11> just dont talk shit when you dont know shit
[19:29:23] <Cluna> Heya
[19:29:25] <@NeoZEROX> Story interesting just don't feel like playing games
[19:29:25] <DSS> Hi Cluna
[19:29:33] <Armageddon11> Hey Cluna
[19:29:43] <@NeoZEROX> HONEY!!!
[19:29:53] <Cluna> What's up? Someone's talking shit about something?
[19:29:53] <DSS> not liking jumpscares and thinking they're a cheap tactic is talking shit?
[19:31:01] <DSS> That's what Zero said about jumpscares, but I don't think he meant it towards FNaF, just in general
[19:31:05] <DSS> and I agree with him
[19:31:10] <Armageddon11> in the context of saying that last one applies to FNaF, yes
[19:31:29] <@NeoZEROX> Just going say this FNAF story did interest me, but game itself I just didn't feel like giving it a try
[19:31:47] <Armageddon11> i acknowledged it's not for everyone and as a general statement it holds up
[19:31:56] <Armageddon11> *what he said holds up
[19:32:08] <DSS> you're splitting hairs
[19:33:15] <@NeoZEROX> Undertale I was actually interest in game itself interesting for me to play it, I might be spoil on beginning part of game but the experience playing was amazing.
[19:34:18] <@NeoZEROX> Also she here now so go ask her about Raevyn
[19:34:19] <Armageddon11> i seriously dont care if you play FNaF or not. the story's mostly been collectively figured out, which was half the fun
[19:34:34] <Armageddon11> ship's already sailed
[19:36:06] <Armageddon11> but saying 'jumpscares are bad' as a way to dismiss it just pisses me off?
[19:37:42] <Armageddon11> Undertale I only played because its fanart seemed incomprehensible without context
[19:38:06] <Armageddon11> It being a legit good game was a nice surprise
[19:38:40] <Armageddon11> Cluna, settle what's going on with Raevyn
[19:38:50] <Armageddon11> ya know, for the record
[19:40:47] <DSS> Cluna: Is Raevyn a Crow or is he from somwhere else?
[19:40:49] <Cluna> Well, from what I have, he has something going on against the Crows.
[19:41:19] <Cluna> Because they basically pillaged his hometown.
[19:42:37] <Cluna> But it'll be interesting when he develops a rapport with Viola but doesn't really know she is one of them.
[19:44:22] <Armageddon11> ...so he, a (planted) member of the Crows, happens to hang out with the heir to the Crows in a context where it's not imminently apparent who she is?
[19:44:39] <Armageddon11> how?
[19:44:39] <Cluna> Basically.
[19:45:03] <Cluna> Where you getting at?
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[19:45:56] <Armageddon11> how do they meet?
[19:46:52] <Cluna> I actually haven't given that much thought. I may have to discuss it with Zero, being that Viola's one of his.
[19:47:09] <Armageddon11> im not optimistic
[19:47:38] <Cluna> I kinda figured you wouldn't.
[19:48:19] <Cluna> Maybe rescue's the only thing I can think of?
[19:48:49] <Armageddon11> to that... maybe?
[19:49:46] <Armageddon11> i mean there exists no context where someone meets Viola and thinks theyre not a hardened warrior
[19:50:06] <Cluna> Hmmmm... Okay, you got a point.
[19:50:25] <Cluna> Maybe he does know she's a Crow but has second thoughts on killing her.
[19:50:45] <Cluna> He may just find her too attractive despite her mixed heritage.
[19:51:08] <Cluna> Does THAT satisfy you?
[19:51:22] <Armageddon11> hahaha
[19:51:25] <Armageddon11> that's dumb, but the kind of in-character dumb i can get behind.
[19:51:32] <Cluna> Pfft
[19:52:02] <Cluna> Should he not have second thoughts?
[19:52:32] <Cluna> Maybe they're forced to work together under a certain circumstance?
[19:53:05] <Armageddon11> That one's easy; being sent on a mission together
[19:53:39] <Cluna> Oh, okay. That works.
[19:54:35] <Armageddon11> Raevyn's bio described him as a womanizer, so i could legit see revenge and romance both being very high desires of his. fancying Viola would be an interesting character conflict
[19:54:39] <@NeoZEROX> But she high rank assassin and does have Corvus as her partner
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[19:55:03] <Armageddon11> good catch, Neo. that was my main hesitation with that answer
[19:55:19] <DSS> what did I miss, my laptop is acting up rn
[19:55:42] <Armageddon11> the most cliche way around that would be her taking a special interesting in him for some reason
[19:55:54] <Armageddon11> a better reason? hazing
[19:56:41] <Cluna> Hmmmm
[19:56:56] <Armageddon11> maybe occasionally she takes newbies on missions way over their head as a way to scare them for shits
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[19:59:12] <Armageddon11> we were just throwing ideas around, DSS
[19:59:43] <@NeoZEROX> Shit was going say something but she dc. >>
[19:59:49] <DSS> did we figure out where he's from or why he goes to ethan?
[20:00:01] <Armageddon11> we already know where he's from
[20:00:03] <Armageddon11> ffs
[20:00:26] <Armageddon11> didnt get round to poking her over the Ethan thing tho
[20:00:49] <DSS> where then?
[20:00:54] <@NeoZEROX> Hopefully she'll be back soon >>
[20:01:08] <Armageddon11> Vadimas
[20:01:22] <Armageddon11> a neutral settlement conquered by the Crow
[20:01:24] <Armageddon11> s
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[20:01:46] <DSS> no, not where he lives now, but where his village was that was ransacked
[20:01:47] <Cluna> Sorry. Chatroom has decided to shut down on me@!
[20:01:55] <Armageddon11> Vadimas!
[20:01:57] <@NeoZEROX> As I was going say
[20:02:11] <DSS> Why would the crows plunder a village in their own territory?
[20:02:29] <DSS> do you understand my confusion here
[20:02:29] <Armageddon11> To make it their territory
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[20:03:02] <Armageddon11> (hahaha poor Neo)
[20:03:09] <@NeoZEROX> GOD DAMMIT!!
[20:03:15] <DSS> Vadimas was pretty much always Crow territory, if unofficially, as far back as we're concerned
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[20:03:25] <Cluna> REVENGE!!!
[20:03:34] Cluna kills and kills and kills!!!
[20:03:50] <Armageddon11> oh? hm
[20:04:09] <Cluna> http://dissidiacalamitasinfinita.wikia.com/wiki/User:Krystal_Tomlin/Character_List/TC2_Character_List#Raevyn_Noire
[20:04:22] <Armageddon11> nope, you're wrong about that
[20:04:26] <Cluna> Maybe Raevyn and Altina could be partners? Hmm.
[20:04:45] <@NeoZEROX> Viola would not show any traits of being an assassin she would hiding it and appear more like normal woman. Least this way she would kill her targets easily and quickly
[20:05:10] <DSS> There's no reason for the crows to be anywhere else
[20:05:13] <Armageddon11> Ziemowit was their place of origin?
[20:05:54] <Armageddon11> even Summanus's bio states Vadimas was conquered quite a while later was a grab for expansion
[20:06:06] <Armageddon11> and was entirely peaceful before
[20:06:14] <Armageddon11> *as a grab
[20:06:48] <DSS> I meant the general territory that the crows claim now, not vadimas specifically
[20:07:45] <Armageddon11> I don't know what to tell you, this is what the bio's say
[20:08:02] <DSS> I don't disagree with the bio!
[20:08:43] <DSS> but vadimas being taken over isn't really relevant to anything
[20:09:11] <Armageddon11> it's Raevyn's tragic backstory, lol
[20:09:13] <DSS> it doesn't conflict with anything I've said or had in my mindat least
[20:09:27] <@NeoZEROX> It explain why he want take them down
[20:09:34] <Armageddon11> and Felix's day of death, thank fuck
[20:10:16] <@NeoZEROX> The Salt is real lol
[20:10:39] <Armageddon11> while were on this
[20:10:59] <DSS> it's not relevant to how the map was drawn/how the countries formed is what I meant
[20:11:14] <DSS> which is what I was trying to sort out
[20:11:28] <Armageddon11> sure it is, it's expansion. but awhile back in the backstory
[20:11:43] <Armageddon11> Cluna: What's up with Raevyn stuff namedropping Ethan?
[20:12:04] <Armageddon11> did he take his mole mission from the dude in-person?
[20:12:06] <DSS> it's not expansion since it's not an official nation at that time
[20:12:21] <DSS> it's one takeover in a long list of cities being taken over in the lawless neutral lands
[20:12:26] <DSS> it doesnt' change the map
[20:12:50] <Cluna> Shouldn't it be?
[20:12:52] <Armageddon11> that feels like splitting hairs to me?
[20:13:24] <Cluna> http://dissidiacalamitasinfinita.wikia.com/wiki/User:Krystal_Tomlin/Character_List/TC2_Character_List#Raevyn_Noire
[20:13:36] <Cluna> I just put in 'unknown source' for now.
[20:13:56] <Armageddon11> plus whats with the focus on the map? i thought we were illuminating that guy's backstory
[20:14:16] <DSS> Can't I try and sort out what I don't understand or no?
[20:14:37] <Armageddon11> not if you keep changing the goalposts if your confusion
[20:14:42] <Armageddon11> *of
[20:14:56] <Armageddon11> Cluna: just put Asteria like i did on the planning page
[20:15:10] <Cluna> Okay. Done.
[20:16:07] <DSS> I don't even know what you mean by that arma but its not helping
[20:16:33] <Armageddon11> what still confuses you, then?
[20:16:38] <@NeoZEROX> I'm actually getting a headache now
[20:18:41] <DSS> this got so off topic
[20:18:44] <DSS> it's amazing
[20:23:18] <Armageddon11> Neo: about that Viola thing, i mean thats not total improbable but i dont quite buy it
[20:23:24] <Armageddon11> *totally
[20:23:53] <@NeoZEROX> Hiding any assassin traits?
[20:24:08] <DSS> SilverCrono: You put down that Lust originates in Ashland? Did you mean Envy?
[20:24:44] <Armageddon11> when they include visual injuries like a sliced tail and missing wing? a little
[20:25:02] <Armageddon11> plus, you know, the bloodred soulless eyes
[20:25:35] <@NeoZEROX> That was something coming in mind when mention that.
[20:25:51] <Armageddon11> i do buy how she would hide the scythe, tho
[20:27:07] <@NeoZEROX> I mean if anybody ask about that could explain she was a war victim, which is true, those visual injuries was when she was a child and not on a mission
[20:29:01] <Armageddon11> sure, sure
[20:29:29] <@NeoZEROX> I'm sure there many people that was both physically and mentally mess up from war, I'll be shock there wont be a lot innocent people who also suffer not just soldiers
[20:31:49] <Armageddon11> just saying, an scarred Drake/Wolf mixbreed with red eyes? thats not especially indiscreet. people might remember her when someone dies a few minutes/hours after meeting her
[20:32:16] <Armageddon11> when it boils down to it its a nitpick tho, so whatever
[20:32:21] <@NeoZEROX> Have a point there
[20:32:51] <DSS> that just sounds like a classic Zero character
[20:32:57] <Armageddon11> lol
[20:33:08] <@NeoZEROX> >>
[20:33:12] <DSS> not a bad thing
[20:33:17] <DSS> its your style
[20:34:07] <Armageddon11> Corvus would probably have better luck if it werent for the green eyes
[20:34:38] <@NeoZEROX> Yeah having Seer eyes would make him stand out.
[20:35:11] <@NeoZEROX> Could color contacts be things, this might help them in missions. lol
[20:35:35] <Armageddon11> Why doesn't Mother have a bio?
[20:36:11] <Armageddon11> (i think Samael just wore sunglasses)
[20:39:10] <@NeoZEROX> Not really sure why there no bio lol
[20:39:40] <DSS> all your work went onto her DCI page right?
[20:41:00] <@NeoZEROX> Pretty much
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[22:05:53] <DSS> NeoZEROX: So the Crows only started to form after TC ended?
[22:11:56] <@NeoZEROX> yeah reform
[22:22:10] <DSS> okay, I'm going to make a timeline page to help keep this stuff straight
[22:22:31] <DSS> please add relevant major events, stuff like when the crows first formed, disbanded, and reformed
[22:23:25] <@NeoZEROX> They kinda go in hiding staying out war due attack mention in Viola back story which 2 years before TC
[22:26:05] <DSS> What should be year 0? or the starting year?
[22:26:45] <@NeoZEROX> Like how far this time you wanna cover?
[22:27:07] <DSS> I just remembered doing one for the original TC
[22:27:16] <@NeoZEROX> Yeah
[22:27:56] <DSS> i want it to cover any event that's relevant to the story, whether that's 1 year ago or 5000
[22:30:37] <DSS> but it looks like we don't need to go farther back than 1000
[22:31:09] <@NeoZEROX> I would say events during time Pride was alive as does set up a lot events, but should wait when 8bit get yet
[22:31:15] <@NeoZEROX> *here
[22:31:28] <DSS> well of course
[22:32:10] <@NeoZEROX> There is like story we wanna do for those events as a lot about Pride, Melody and April's father/Pride's brother
[22:32:45] <DSS> I know, I have stuff to write from that time period concerning Zeke/Amos/Francis
[22:33:50] <@NeoZEROX> Did you want Eva have memories of her mother?
[22:34:20] <DSS> I mean, she didn't forget, did she?
[22:34:49] <@NeoZEROX> Well Eva would be very young
[22:35:03] <DSS> how young?
[22:35:17] <@NeoZEROX> She 28 during TC yes?
[22:35:18] <DSS> ah man, if only we had a timeline I could look this up
[22:35:20] <DSS> yes
[22:37:00] <DSS> according to this, the destruction of mysidia happened 8 years before TC....that's what we agreed on when talking about it last time, right?
[22:37:11] <DSS> maybe it was 10 years
[22:39:33] <DSS> I'm so glad I did the fucking family tree, I'd be so lost if I didn't
[22:39:43] <@NeoZEROX> 8 years would make where Cynthia is 10 and Eva was 20,
[22:40:26] <@NeoZEROX> If it was 10 would be when Eva just left so whatever you see make more sense
[22:41:36] <DSS> yeah 10 makes more sense
[22:44:26] <@NeoZEROX> Okay so what I find her Melody would be 12 when Eva was born, though I could shorten that if you like
[22:44:31] <@NeoZEROX> *here
[22:45:21] <DSS> You don't have to, it's not a huge issue
[22:45:49] <DSS> I'm sure the whole family tree has this sort of issue <<
[22:46:08] <@NeoZEROX> Actually look at here April was 27 Eva would have to be just born or year old when close to year old when her mother died >>
[22:49:03] <DSS> well that's not going to work
[22:49:15] <DSS> not like all that info on that timeline is correct anymore
[22:49:54] <@NeoZEROX> I'm going by ages of Eva and April
[22:50:13] <DSS> what does april have to do with this?
[22:51:22] <@NeoZEROX> Actually nevermind I'm thinking about something else.
[22:52:04] <@NeoZEROX> I was thinking Pride death and her brother exile would be in same year but doesn't need to be lol
[22:54:36] <DSS> this is your chance to fix all the times when things happen, so once 8bit gets here we can start going to work
[22:55:10] <DSS> the one thing i want to do is decide a year that this takes place in, it doesn't matter what year, just a number to make things easier to keep track of
[22:55:23] <DSS> and we have the names for months that I dug up
[22:55:35] <DSS> so we can actually put an actual date to when things happened
[22:56:00] <DSS> how great would that be?
[22:59:11] <@SilverCrono> p great
[22:59:26] <DSS> wb
[22:59:35] <@SilverCrono> thx
[22:59:42] <@NeoZEROX> Why you cover in goat blood, actually nevermind I know
[23:03:58] <DSS> one thing I'd be interested to see is when exactly all the CoS died
[23:05:30] <@NeoZEROX> From what Arma said about Greed, he died in time during DS, as he like link during that era.
[23:07:54] <DSS> DragonSoul..?
[23:08:29] <@NeoZEROX> mmhmm
[23:10:30] <DSS> .....what?
[23:11:20] <DSS> You're telling me arma just connected these two world for no reason?
[23:11:23] <DSS> he can't do that!
[23:12:17] <@NeoZEROX> I don't think he see them as two worlds but them both in same world
[23:12:31] <@NeoZEROX> It been talk about before, connecting DS and TC
[23:14:42] <DSS> It's one thing to talk about it and another thing to say that a character in TC2 was born in DS
[23:15:30] <@NeoZEROX> >>
[23:15:49] <DSS> what?
[23:16:19] <@NeoZEROX> Stay out of it, might I have gotten wrong didn't think be problem
[23:17:04] <@SilverCrono> theyre on different continents tho right?
[23:17:18] <@SilverCrono> and in different times, like way different
[23:17:26] <@SilverCrono> i didnt know it would be a problem lol i thought it was confirmed
[23:17:41] <@SilverCrono> DSS: also, yeah, i meant envy was in ashland, whoops
[23:18:17] <DSS> when did we talk about this??
[23:18:47] <DSS> I certainly don't want them to be in the same world
[23:18:55] <@NeoZEROX> Why not?
[23:19:20] <DSS> Because they're two different stories and combining them into one universe cheapens them, it feels like a gimmick
[23:19:44] <DSS> and really only because both have drakenaer, which isn't a good enough reason
[23:20:10] <DSS> we have enough work on our hands without trying to figure out how these worlds could be connected
[23:20:27] <@NeoZEROX> I thought it explain the world showing there more beyond the sea that surround the land
[23:21:06] <DSS> there's nothing wrong with having a world with just one continent on it, you know
[23:21:12] <@SilverCrono> i thought so too neo, but it isnt that big a deal tbh
[23:21:38] <DSS> there's not really anything that needs explaining tbh
[23:21:44] <DSS> its just the way it is
[23:22:02] <@NeoZEROX> I think you just overacting to it it not big deal really. >>
[23:22:04] <@SilverCrono> ^
[23:23:01] <DSS> I mean, you asked why i didn't want them to be together
[23:23:03] <DSS> I told you
[23:23:13] <DSS> how else am i supposed to react to hearing this for the first time?
[23:24:43] <@SilverCrono> i thought we discussed it like, years ago, probs
[23:24:44] <DSS> honest question, since you guys think I'm overreacting here, and I'm just giving my honest thoughts
[23:24:52] <@SilverCrono> before tc2 was a thing? maybe iidk
[23:29:24] <@SilverCrono> (whats ur question?)
[23:32:42] <DSS> how else am i supposed to react to hearing this for the first time?
[23:33:13] <@SilverCrono> o
[23:33:21] <@SilverCrono> idk dawg i completely forgot about it and its cool
[23:33:24] <@SilverCrono> if we dont do it its cool
[23:33:31] <@SilverCrono> idk it just doesnt seem like that big of a deal .-.
[23:38:30] <DSS> I just think connecting two stories like that is kind of a big deal <<
[23:40:30] <@SilverCrono> it can be, but like i said its not like the characters of either would ever meet
[23:41:21] <@NeoZEROX> Is it different what we doing with KoS/CS/UA?
[23:42:20] <XJR-9> NeoZEROX: My internet is terrible, sorry
[23:42:28] <@SilverCrono> those 3 are actually vaguely connected rather taking place in the same universe coincidentally
[23:43:21] <@NeoZEROX> lol it cool
[23:43:33] <@NeoZEROX> We're just sitting waiting lol
[23:48:08] <DSS> wait, you mean the trilogy don't take place in the same universe?
[23:48:15] <DSS> doesn't*
[23:48:45] <@NeoZEROX> Well they do I'm just saying why not TC and DS does too?
[23:49:04] <@NeoZEROX> Arma even said our trilogy doesn't make sense but we're still doing it
[23:50:33] <DSS> I think our trilogy makes sense because it was concieved pretty early after CS and UA were started so they could be written with the trilogy in mind
[23:50:40] <DSS> TC and UA don't have that
[23:50:46] <DSS> TC and DS* >>
[23:54:09] <@SilverCrono> the trilogy /do/ take place in the same universe
[23:54:19] <@SilverCrono> but it isnt an arbitrary coincidence like the TC/DS one is (so far)
[23:54:41] <@SilverCrono> also when did arma say the trilogy doesnt make sense?
[23:54:49] <@SilverCrono> (i wanna discuss that with him...)
[23:55:44] <DSS> getting back to what I was originally asking about...
[23:55:47] <@SilverCrono> yuany: did you ever check out the last link i posted?
[23:56:01] <DSS> We know when/where Pride dies, but what about Envy, Crono?
[23:56:22] <@SilverCrono> i havent decided what i wanna do with her yet
[23:56:31] <@SilverCrono> are we disclosing all the deaths of the CoS...?
[23:59:00] <DSS> You don't have to if you don't want, but I though it would be neat if they were on the timeline
[23:59:11] <DSS> I was just curious too lol
[00:00:29] <@SilverCrono> well i plan for her to be killed by a party of heroes
[00:00:30] <DSS> I know Lust dies in the middle of the ocean but I haven't decided when
[00:00:37] <@SilverCrono> or even just a hero, singular
[00:00:39] <@SilverCrono> but yeah idk when
[00:00:42] <DSS> oh?
[00:00:45] <DSS> hero?
[00:00:47] <@SilverCrono> i have her death scene sorta sorted out
[00:01:01] <@SilverCrono> yeah i plan for her to have a relationship (not romance) with one of the heroes
[00:01:07] <XJR-9> SilverCrono: Not yet, sorry.
[00:01:11] <@SilverCrono> tis ok yuany~
[00:01:16] <XJR-9> After I finish with this marasy piece
[00:01:21] <XJR-9> Sorry, kind of dead after OT X_X
[00:01:43] <XJR-9> Could you relink for me?
[00:02:34] <@NeoZEROX> Oh romance?
[00:03:16] <@SilverCrono> not romance <<;
[00:03:33] <@SilverCrono> she's probably not capable of loving anyone else romantically at this point lol
[00:03:34] <DSS> oh hmhm
[00:03:34] <@NeoZEROX> Oh a read that wrong
[00:04:20] <@SilverCrono> [14:10:04] <@SilverCrono> XJR-9: when u get a chance, i feel like you'd enjoy this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1dotMUQaRI
[00:04:28] <XJR-9> Ta
[00:04:31] <DSS> idk who would want to fall in love with a giant crystal anyways
[00:07:07] <@NeoZEROX> Giant Crystal?
[00:07:08] <@SilverCrono> idk i think i could if the crystal lady had sweet tiddies
[00:07:36] <@NeoZEROX> PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
[00:08:00] <XJR-9> Very jaunty, la
[00:08:20] <@SilverCrono> question: are the CoS just regular people, frailty wise?
[00:08:36] <@SilverCrono> like can they regenerate or do they have any superhuman perks/traits due to their revivals?
[00:08:40] <@SilverCrono> how can one kill them?
[00:11:53] <@NeoZEROX> CoS main skill is to steal Aura from people only skill they really have though they can steal Aura with their own way
[00:14:17] <@NeoZEROX> Mother also allow them have there appearance as they were then they're alive like extra layer  of flesh cover crystal body, so they would feel like the normally would, however they not able bleed as their own Aura is faction like blood and their heart is like Core crystal or Crystal of Sin which hold their Aura and all Aura the steal
[00:15:17] <@NeoZEROX> Pride goal is have other six collect as much Aura they can get and lead them to their downfall or kill them herself to take their Sin Cryatal
[00:16:10] <@NeoZEROX> Their Sin Crystal does carry Elemental property but they don't have use it but something Pride uses the enhance her own magic.
[00:16:34] <@SilverCrono> ok so 1) they dont bleed 2) the core crystal is a weak point, if destroyed they would lose all their aura
[00:16:51] <@SilverCrono> do they like leak aura when they're injured? could they die by massive injuries that dont hurt their core crystal?
[00:21:20] <@NeoZEROX> Pretty all need happen is take Core Crystal from their body
[00:21:45] <@NeoZEROX> their body can be destroy but they wont die until Core Crystal remove
[00:22:14] <@NeoZEROX> If someone give Core Crystal back to Mother she can give them a new body but not really gonna happen if Pride just take it
[00:22:50] <@NeoZEROX> And Less likely if Mother even give them new  body, if they fail once they're done unless they're that good at their jobe
[00:22:53] <@NeoZEROX> *job
[00:22:55] <@SilverCrono> ok, so theyre basically immortal until the core is taken out
[00:23:39] <@NeoZEROX> They're pretty like Ghost, think of like Terumi is using Hazma as his host body like that.
[00:23:59] <@NeoZEROX> Well not like that but only example I can think of
[00:24:24] <@NeoZEROX> Pretty if someone dies they can't really die again
[00:24:47] <@SilverCrono> do they know about these terms/
[00:24:49] <@SilverCrono> ?
[00:27:14] <@NeoZEROX> What terms?
[00:32:10] <@SilverCrono> the rules for their immortality
[00:42:05] <@NeoZEROX> I don't think they would
[00:45:52] <@SilverCrono> okie dokie
[00:45:54] <DSS> back
[00:47:47] <@SilverCrono> wb
[00:51:18] <DSS> ty
[00:52:55] <DSS> what I think would be cool if a bit ambitious but very helpful is if we can pin down in which town/city each character is at the start of the story
[00:55:35] <@SilverCrono> not sure about the beginning but altina moves to asteria very soon after the story starts
[00:55:45] <@SilverCrono> the city where synthshrine is, specifically
[00:55:52] <@SilverCrono> the kingstons will be in the capital of asteria
[00:59:48] <DSS> hm
[00:59:58] <DSS> I should have added a few more cities to the map
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[01:02:31] <@SilverCrono> thats still possible right?
[01:02:33] <@SilverCrono> ohi 8bit
[01:02:34] <@SilverCrono> u missed hella
[01:03:45] <@SilverCrono> http://pastebin.com/D1QL7Vwq
[01:03:46] <Eight-bit> hiya
[01:03:46] <Eight-bit> fuK
[01:03:48] <Eight-bit> log-chan
[01:03:48] <Eight-bit> ?
[01:03:52] <Eight-bit> o
[01:03:52] <Eight-bit> bles syou.
[01:04:30] <@NeoZEROX> 8bit wb!
[01:04:58] <DSS> SilverCrono: sure I don't see why not
[01:05:33] <DSS> especially the zirconia factions, they could use a few more
[01:06:28] <Cluna> How would Cyrus feel if Lust dies?
[01:07:38] <@NeoZEROX> You ask us
[01:07:55] <@NeoZEROX> You mostly create him, I did most my work with other twin
[01:08:07] <Cluna> Oh ..
[01:08:09] <Cluna> * >>
[01:08:19] <@SilverCrono> did we ever confirm what the deal is about raevyn
[01:08:19] <Cluna> Actually, I was asking myself.
[01:08:57] <Cluna> Someone else in Asteria would hire him as a spy, not Ethan himself.
[01:09:46] <DSS> I only said Ethan wouldn't hire him because I thought Raevyn was a crow >>
[01:10:01] <DSS> to be honest, I havent' thought of how Ethan deals with the crows yet
[01:10:21] <Cluna> I just put Asteria itself just to be safe.
[01:10:41] <DSS> also, are you making Cyrus and Lust a thing >>
[01:10:52] <@NeoZEROX> lolololol
[01:12:26] <Cluna> Just wondering as if they did.
[01:13:23] <@SilverCrono> okie dokie
[01:13:27] <DSS> NeoZEROX: didn't we say someone else was possibly going to befriend her?
[01:14:02] <Eight-bit> Sloth :?
[01:17:03] <@NeoZEROX> Maybe Rosabel I dunno really >>
[01:17:13] <DSS> I thought Sloth was DCI-only >>
[01:17:26] <DSS> It was either Rosabel or Ava, probably Rosabel
[01:17:29] <@NeoZEROX> or could be Melanie
[01:17:45] <DSS> mm, I'd rather it be a kid
[01:17:49] <Eight-bit> oh
[01:17:52] <Eight-bit> the thing I wrote
[01:17:57] <Eight-bit> was an actual in-story thing
[01:18:16] <@NeoZEROX> I know Melanine Rosabel and Cyrus form their own party when CoS become more of plot point and after death of Gluttnony
[01:18:51] <@SilverCrono> i know next to nothing about any of the PCs, i realize
[01:18:59] <@SilverCrono> besides altina and the cyn/taar kids
[01:19:09] <@NeoZEROX> Rosabel actually befriend him and he explain to her what their goal is and he ask them to put him in peace so he can die as Skyhound not beast like before
[01:19:10] <@SilverCrono> who even are they
[01:19:53] <@NeoZEROX> Rosabel would be able deal more so if CoS is good or evil being only one of Cynthia's children able use Aura sight
[01:19:59] <@NeoZEROX> *tell
[01:20:58] <DSS> SilverCrono: Cyrus and Rosabel are Cynthia's and Taarin's second and third kids, Melanie is Cynthia's younger sister
[01:21:05] <DSS> Eight-bit: orz
[01:21:07] <@NeoZEROX> Whole goal of this party is they need to warn Cynthia about Mother and CoS as they targeting her. Which at some point Cynthia is with Taarin trying find Ava
[01:22:28] <@NeoZEROX> I'm trying not put too much focus on this party at start they mostly become important when CoS become more active and plot point
[01:22:39] <@NeoZEROX> I feel Crow is main issue from start
[01:22:46] <@NeoZEROX> *Crows
[01:22:51] <@SilverCrono> DSS: i meant who even are the PCs outside of the terentia kids
[01:23:07] <@SilverCrono> i know who the terentia kids are, i studied their bios when i did their art
[01:23:21] <DSS> your query was vague <<
[01:23:34] <DSS> or I missed your lead-in >>
[01:23:59] <@SilverCrono> eh its fine
[01:30:27] <Eight-bit> Altina, Ellie, Avec, and Ekram are in the PC camp i think?
[01:30:31] <DSS> 100% confirmed PCs include: Ava, Cyrus, Ellie, Iulius, Altina
[01:31:06] <DSS> ok Ekram? cool
[01:31:44] <@SilverCrono> what are they doin with their lives
[01:31:54] <@SilverCrono> i only know of ekram, ava, and tina
[01:32:35] <DSS> not 100% but discussed as possible PCs: Viola, Rosabel, Melanie, Spike, Solon, Raevyn, Irving or Neptunia,
[01:33:01] <DSS> if I'm wrong, correct me pls
[01:34:30] <@NeoZEROX> Viola could not sure yet just matter what would happen to her at end Crow stuff
[01:36:04] <@NeoZEROX> I would like if she live and is convince stop trying start another war as she doesn't have do what her father wishes, problem being if other Crow would accept this
[01:36:21] <@SilverCrono> im surprised talinn isnt one :o
[01:36:44] <DSS> the group of older young adults I'm even less sure on
[01:37:14] <Eight-bit> The leaders of each nation, to me, are in their own league
[01:37:28] <DSS> yes
[01:38:12] <DSS> Ethan/Eva, Larissa, Talinn?? Bliss, Summanus??, ????, ?????? help
[01:38:37] <Eight-bit> Miranda and Paschal, and yes on Talinn lol
[01:38:49] <Eight-bit> oh interest, Bliss is leader of new Trailia and not Autumn
[01:38:54] <DSS> the worst thing about that is
[01:39:02] <@NeoZEROX> So does Viola cont as leader when Summanus?
[01:39:05] <DSS> I had the locations section open on another tab @_@
[01:39:21] <DSS> NeoZEROX: It depends if she becomes leader? lol
[01:39:44] <DSS> Eight-bit: yush. Autumn runs an orphanage :D
[01:40:50] <Eight-bit> about the older young adults - idk, I sometimes find it... peculiar when the protagonists of so many games/stories are less than 18
[01:41:07] <Eight-bit> but that's just me; most characters I've created are older than 20
[01:41:27] <Eight-bit> (this is in general throughout jrpgs/fiction)
[01:41:43] <DSS> I sometimes feel the same way myself, but then I look around and see all games/manga/anime that focus around high school kids
[01:41:47] <DSS> and just realize I'm getting old
[01:42:08] <DSS> plus as a sequel I think it's fine to have so many of the kids of the former cast involved
[01:42:25] <DSS> though it would be nice to get some of the older young adults involved
[01:43:13] <Eight-bit> well yeah they're gonan get involved lol
[01:43:23] <DSS> someone like, idk, shannon, would be nice to give him somthing to do besides be miranda's gofer lel
[01:47:21] <Eight-bit> this pastebin is spicy~
[01:48:30] <DSS> <<;
[01:51:06] <Eight-bit> DSS can I be very honest with you right now
[01:51:23] <DSS> is it bad
[01:51:30] <DSS> pm it to me if it is
[01:56:38] <Eight-bit> wait we had months for TC?
[01:58:04] <DSS> we did but not implemented in the actual story
[01:59:44] <DSS> I created them for Ivy's gaiden, which was going to be written in separate diary entries
[02:10:03] <Eight-bit> [00:08:20] <@SilverCrono> question: are the CoS just regular people, frailty wise?
[02:10:03] <Eight-bit> [00:08:36] <@SilverCrono> like can they regenerate or do they have any superhuman perks/traits due to their revivals?
[02:10:06] <Eight-bit> vurr interest
[02:29:09] <@SilverCrono> as am i
[02:29:12] <@SilverCrono> still waiting on an answer
[02:29:14] <@SilverCrono> olos
[02:30:03] <DSS> I thought Zero answered that orz
[02:30:14] <@SilverCrono> not all of em
[02:31:18] <@NeoZEROX> I know I did. .-,
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[02:31:28] <@SilverCrono> not all the questions
[02:31:30] <@NeoZEROX> Which ones I didn't
[02:31:34] <DSS> I thought he did
[02:34:51] <@SilverCrono> >do they like leak aura when they're injured?
[02:34:58] <@NeoZEROX> No
[02:35:20] <@SilverCrono> sorry lol in hindsight u answered more than i thought
[02:35:55] <@NeoZEROX> Minior cut might show there Crystal part even worst they can loose hunk chunk of their body
[02:37:07] <DSS> so if say they lose an arm can they reconnect it? or does it grow back?
[02:37:16] <@NeoZEROX> It gone
[02:37:30] <Eight-bit> o shit
[02:37:38] <Eight-bit> the core can't regenerate it?
[02:37:39] <@SilverCrono> wait wtf? i thought u said their bodies could regen?
[02:37:48] <DSS> ^^^
[02:38:00] <@NeoZEROX> Only Mother can fix them
[02:38:02] <DSS> i figured if mother pumped enough aura into them
[02:38:12] <DSS> that's what i meant >>
[02:38:20] <Eight-bit> ah ok, not on their own
[02:39:05] <@NeoZEROX> Yea Mother can repair their bodies
[02:39:11] <@NeoZEROX> But not on their own
[02:41:01] <@SilverCrono> how willing would she be to do that
[02:41:25] <@NeoZEROX> Just how loyal they are.
[02:41:38] <@NeoZEROX> Or how much they work too
[02:42:19] <DSS> wouldn't it behoover her to fix them so she can get more aura <<
[02:42:27] <DSS> also
[02:42:30] <DSS> I can just see sloth
[02:42:37] <DSS> "Me arm fell off"
[02:42:57] <DSS> *le shrug*
[02:43:19] <@NeoZEROX> For Sloth lost a arm he need be doing some work which hard belive
[02:44:02] <Eight-bit> and that shit's not gonna happen 8D
[02:45:27] <DSS> his arm might fall off scratching his own ass while laying down, I can see that happening
[02:47:53] <@NeoZEROX> lol
[02:51:32] <Eight-bit> i can see the point of
[02:51:36] <Eight-bit> [01:43:22] <DSS> wouldn't it behoover her to fix them so she can get more aura <<
[02:52:53] <Eight-bit> MOSTLY CAUSE
[02:52:57] <Eight-bit> IT'S WHAT SLOTH WOULD EMPLOY~
[02:55:32] <DSS> "me arm fell off. oops? no more work lel"
[03:03:08] <DSS> also
[03:03:21] <DSS> it's 3am and I just consumed a teacup's worth of ranch dressing
[03:03:24] <DSS> this is a cry for help
[03:03:27] <Eight-bit> like
[03:03:30] <Eight-bit> just ranch dressing
[03:03:33] <Eight-bit> by itself?
[03:04:54] <DSS> no with baby carrots
[03:06:03] <@NeoZEROX> Ew carrots
[03:10:49] <XJR-9> Carrots are delicious
[03:11:51] <DSS> carrots are fine
[03:12:55] <XJR-9> DSS: Oh yeah, more weird things about cricket: there's no obligation to run even if you hit the ball.
[03:13:46] <@NeoZEROX> I eat meat. >>
[03:13:51] <DSS> I don't even know the rules of cricket, I had no idea running was involved .-.
[03:14:06] <@SilverCrono> pls tell me why i drank some of my vodka at 3 am
[03:14:16] <@SilverCrono> keeping alcohol in one's room = dangerous and tempting
[03:14:23] <Eight-bit> OH CRONO
[03:14:24] <@SilverCrono> also carrots are fine, 5/10
[03:14:30] <Eight-bit> I HAD JOLLY RANCHER VODKA TODAY
[03:14:33] <@SilverCrono> >:D
[03:14:41] <Eight-bit> i forgot to dilute it with sprite at first.
[03:14:45] <@SilverCrono> extra spicy 8bit confirmed?
[03:15:03] <Eight-bit> it was beautiful. and then we played mario party and then actually went out
[03:15:13] <@SilverCrono> u should have made dirty sprite
[03:15:17] <@SilverCrono> for extra beauty
[03:15:21] <@SilverCrono> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dirty+sprite
[03:16:02] <Eight-bit> > benzodiazepines
[03:16:04] <Eight-bit> crono. no.
[03:16:59] <@SilverCrono> i didnt say i use it >>;
[03:17:25] <XJR-9> DSS: it's like baseball
[03:17:32] <XJR-9> Except not
[03:17:48] <DSS> Hey, if you hit a HR in baseball, you don't have to walk either
[03:17:49] <@SilverCrono> i dont mess around with drugs/pills
[03:17:51] <DSS> you can mosey
[03:17:58] <@SilverCrono> i actually wanna live <<;
[03:18:43] <@NeoZEROX> I just spend whole day maxing out Red Scrips real cry for help is over here
[03:21:18] <@SilverCrono> .-.
[03:21:54] <Eight-bit> i proud of u
[03:22:30] <@NeoZEROX> :D
[03:22:35] <DSS> get help
[03:23:34] <@NeoZEROX> Oh DSS don't we need talk about Timeline?
[03:23:43] <DSS> oh, yeah
[03:23:56] <DSS> I need a year
[03:24:05] <DSS> decide on a year, any year
[03:24:11] <Eight-bit> ok let's talk again in 2017
[03:24:15] <DSS> any collectioin of numbers
[03:24:18] <Eight-bit> i'm trash. i need to sleep.
[03:24:21] <Eight-bit> adios~
[03:24:24] <DSS> preferrably not more than 5
[03:24:29] <@NeoZEROX> Me to actually
[03:24:32] <DSS> nooooooouuuuufack
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[03:25:00] <DSS> oh well
[03:25:02] <DSS> tomorrow then
[03:25:11] <@NeoZEROX> Oh Cluna calling
[03:25:13] <@NeoZEROX> Night
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[03:25:17] <XJR-9> DSS: Even if you just gently nudge the ball, you can just stand there not giving a damn~
[03:25:57] <DSS> but what is the objective? does the pitcher have to hit the wickets? what is the batter supposed to accomplish?
[03:26:11] <DSS> what is his motivation for not running? these are the questions that consume me
[03:27:06] <DSS> I keep thinking you guys need more violent sports and then I remember rugby union and australian rules football
[03:27:10] <DSS> yikes
[03:27:34] <XJR-9> Batsman aims to score runs. The pitcher is called a bowler and he aims to get the batsman out.
[03:28:18] <XJR-9> He doesn't run if he doesn't think he's hit a good enough ball, if he thinks he'll be caught out if he runs, if he's playing to stay in etc,
[03:28:26] <XJR-9> ...if he's just had lunch
[03:29:04] <XJR-9> If his partner is a rubbish batsman.
[03:30:44] <XJR-9> Confusingly, "wicket" means the strip in the middle of the field they run on, the things at the ends of the strip, and to get someone out.
[03:32:07] <@SilverCrono> DSS: 12814
[03:32:11] <@SilverCrono> theres ur year
[03:32:22] <DSS> [03:24] <DSS> preferrably not more than 5
[03:32:25] <DSS> geez
[03:32:36] <DSS> so I'll just clipoff that last digit
[03:32:45] <DSS> and 1281 it is
[03:33:31] <DSS> XJR-9: excuse me while I read up the rules
[03:38:07] <DSS> so a bowler tries to get the batsman dismissed by bowling the ball into a wicket to try and make the bails fall, while the batsman scores runs for as many times he can run the pitch after he bats the ball?
[03:38:38] <@SilverCrono> no just do 2814
[03:38:42] <@SilverCrono> that sounds cooler anyway
[03:38:48] <@SilverCrono> and that wasnt /more/ than 5 DX
[03:39:24] <XJR-9> Close.
[03:39:37] <XJR-9> The bowler can get the batsman out through multiple methods.
[03:40:23] <XJR-9> Usually they'll try to make the bowl tricky, causing the batsman to be out leg before wicket (LBW), or to hit the ball and then get caught out by a fielder without the ball bouncing first.
[03:40:50] <XJR-9> Or the batsman can run and get run out - if the ball hits the wicket before they are in the safe zone.
[03:41:14] <XJR-9> The batsman will often not run, and try to go for 4s/6s instead, which don't require running.
[03:41:16] <DSS> SilverCrono: 2814 sounds much too futuristic for TC2, at least I think it does
[03:42:15] <@SilverCrono> tru