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  1. Continuation from: https://pastebin.com/G3GyS7ah
  2.  
  3. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  4. From: Jean Flamelle <[email protected]>
  5. Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 01:29:25 -0500
  6. Subject: Re: [arbcom-en] Appealing block due to discussion in [[Suicide]]
  7. Attachment: https://pastebin.com/kJJyyVz8 (shortened for read-ability)
  8. To: Premeditated Chaos <[email protected]>
  9.  
  10. Having attempted a block appeal through an IP talkpage, I now realize
  11. that my IPv6 changes with browser sessions not merely on a daily
  12. basis, rendering me incapable of editing the relevant talkpage very
  13. quickly. Not to make a redundant request or "try my luck", but to have
  14. a venue to get clarification on the basis for judgment as well as an
  15. opportunity for rebuttal, I attempted to open a block appeal ticket.
  16.  
  17. The ticket system however does not recognize my IP as blocked, as the
  18. ticket system appears to only look at my IPv4 address.
  19.  
  20. I attach an offline copy of the page I received upon trying to submit,
  21. which contains my full appeal.
  22.  
  23.  
  24. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  25. From: Jean Flamelle <[email protected]>
  26. Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 01:33:50 -0500
  27. Subject: Re: [arbcom-en] Appealing block due to discussion in [[Suicide]]
  28. Attachment: Untitled.png (not included)
  29. To: Premeditated Chaos <[email protected]>
  30.  
  31. Since the offline copy makes the page appear broken by not including
  32. Javascript, I decided to also attach a screenshot with this following
  33. email.
  34.  
  35.  
  36. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  37. From: Premeditated Chaos <[email protected]>
  38. Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 21:06:06 -0800
  39. Subject: Re: [arbcom-en] Appealing block due to discussion in [[Suicide]]
  40.  
  41. Hi Jean,
  42.  
  43. I checked with someone who has more experience with UTRS than I do, and
  44. they confirmed the system has issues reading IPv6, and won't accept a
  45. submission if the IP you're currently editing from doesn't look blocked to
  46. it. So I apologize for that, that's a flaw in UTRS.
  47.  
  48. The advice I got to pass on to you, was that you should make the appeal at
  49. talk page of the original IP you got blocked at (
  50. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:8680:E900:F0B9:62DB:3DE0:ED35),
  51. and then bookmark it and keep checking back in there. Even if you're later
  52. posting from a different IP, it'll be understood that it's you appealing.
  53. Hopefully that helps.
  54.  
  55. PMC
  56.  
  57.  
  58. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  59. From: Jean Flamelle <[email protected]>
  60. Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 03:22:39 -0500
  61. Subject: Re: [arbcom-en] Appealing block due to discussion in [[Suicide]]
  62. To: Premeditated Chaos <[email protected]>
  63.  
  64. Well, actually while blocked, I cannot edit any talk page except for
  65. one of the exact IPv6 my browser gives me at that moment. I actually
  66. searched my history to find the talk page I originally attempted my
  67. appeal on, to simply ping the involved administrator to query some
  68. clarification. I couldn't edit that page, because my IPv6 slightly
  69. changed (as such IP'es seem to do).
  70.  
  71. Reading the ANI report mentioned on that talk page by that
  72. administrator, I feel very concerned by how no substantive discussions
  73. went on prior to my block; no one seemed concerned I could not get
  74. notified nor even officially warned about any supposed misbehavior; no
  75. one questioned how I could disruptively edit a semi-protected article
  76. as an IP-editor; no one noticed I made 3 sections about 3 distinct
  77. unrelated issues (neutrality; objectifying language, and; an
  78. inappropriate source restriction banner) nor that I only reverted
  79. edits to the talk page to consistently remove the source restriction
  80. banner after a long period where no one responded to my comments about
  81. why I consider the banner inappropriate for only so long as the
  82. editors who consistently tried to re-add that banner did not respond
  83. to my comments in the talk page, but most of all; every administrator
  84. who has commented so far seems to share an uncontraversial tone as-if
  85. the judgement seems so obvious as to not need explanation or
  86. justification.
  87.  
  88. That last concern, I would classify as disruptive editing by at least
  89. two other editor, trying to overwrite my single change while refusing
  90. to participate in dispute resolution.
  91.  
  92. I further contend, this all stinks of WP:OUTRAGE, especially the
  93. uncontraversial tone.
  94. I believe the bulk of editors, administrator or otherwise, must notice
  95. the technical accuracy within my statements, but feel a balanced
  96. article would require giving way to coverage of views they consider
  97. morally outrageous so they thusly refuse to discuss or allow even
  98. changes no one kind find way to criticize within the perview of the
  99. wikipedia guidelines. I even got accused of attempting to
  100. WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS as an almost immediate response to the a post
  101. starting with the sentence: "You are just repeating over and over that
  102. you consider suicide an issue, just specifying differently nuanced
  103. situations, but I'll express this one situation that's not nuanced at
  104. all." Of course, I immediately responded with a post including the
  105. sentence: "By trying to tell an editor I disagree with their "great
  106. wrong" suddenly I'm trying to "right a great wrong"."
  107.  
  108. Shortly after my block, someone spoilered the entire section I created
  109. explaining the reasoning for why the article objectifies people by
  110. opting for the term "risk factor" where the term "motivation" could
  111. just as well apply, as well as reasons relating to neutrality as well
  112. as general ethics for why the article should avoid moralizing language
  113. like that, with no more summary or explanation than they consider the
  114. section a rant. Well, even if accurate, I've read many early wikipedia
  115. discussions for as well as against capital G, "god", which certainly
  116. would deserve the classification "rant" but certainly posed very
  117. necessary arguments. I genuinely detest arguing, but I detest even
  118. more decision-makers acting Quxiote with regards to their process for
  119. making decisions when those decisions affect a great many people
  120. directly or indirectly but very potently.
  121.  
  122.  
  123. --
  124. CC0
  125.  
  126. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  127. From: Jean Flamelle <[email protected]>
  128. Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 03:26:26 -0500
  129. Subject: Re: [arbcom-en] Appealing block due to discussion in [[Suicide]]
  130. To: Premeditated Chaos <[email protected]>
  131.  
  132. Excuse me, I meant that second to last concern.
  133. I added an extra concern, post-editing without noticing I needed to
  134. update the first sentence in the next paragraph to refer to the
  135. correct concern.
  136.  
  137. --
  138. CC0
  139.  
  140. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  141. From: Premeditated Chaos <[email protected]>
  142. Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 21:29:31 -0800
  143. Subject: Re: [arbcom-en] Appealing block due to discussion in [[Suicide]]
  144.  
  145. Ok, so post on whichever IP you're presently on, and just make a note that
  146. you're the IP from Talk:Suicide. Add a link to the original IP in your
  147. request, and make a note that you're having trouble with dynamic IP and may
  148. not be able to respond on the same page. Then bookmark it so you don't lose
  149. it.
  150.  
  151. PMC
  152.  
  153. <snip>
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