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* Topic is '19fgts ftw :)14 |13 (kileyisacutefgtbtw)14 | 4<-- silly aussie fgt is full of lies. ;x14 | 8at least I don't watch Toybox ;x 14|7 at least I give my sheep water.14 | 11Kiley loves Lindsay like a penguin loves sheep! | night Kiley<3'
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<Princesa> 00,01 Welcome to #nommer00,01 bulletproofvest
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<Princesa> 00,01 Welcome to #nommer00,01 Kileycherie
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<TinkerBe||> well
<TinkerBe||> badsanta since i know you're probably talking to her
<TinkerBe||> if she wants us to leave
<TinkerBe||> tell her to tell you and we'll go
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Uh, hi.
<TinkerBe||> ello Kristin
<TinkerBe||> !
<Princesa> Yikes.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 ^
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I sense hostility.
<TinkerBe||> well
<TinkerBe||> something was said to kiley
<TinkerBe||> which she took
<TinkerBe||> in the wrong way
<TinkerBe||> i am sure she'll let you know soon what it is
<Nala> 06,0107^06,01
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Alright.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 If you need a moderator anywhere, hit me up.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 which I obviously mean by keeping things civil o.o
<TinkerBe||> yes of course :)
<TinkerBe||> I just wish
<TinkerBe||> people wouldn't read into what someone says
<TinkerBe||> and add words
<Nala> 06,0108M06,01y fault07..06,01 08S06,01lightly wishing 08I06,0107'06,01d kept
<TinkerBe||> that aren't there
<Nala> 06,01my mouth
<Nala> 06,01shut07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108A06,01s usual07.06,01
<TinkerBe||> well
<TinkerBe||> the only thing i think you did wrong
<TinkerBe||> was saying it in the open
<TinkerBe||> other than that
<TinkerBe||> idk...
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01 think
<Nala> 06,01either way she07'06,01d be
<TinkerBe||> maybe you two aren't close enough
<Nala> 06,01like this07.06,01
<TinkerBe||> for that honesty
<TinkerBe||> yes
<TinkerBe||> me too
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I'm reading logs.
<Nala> 06,0108S06,01o07,06,01 doesn07'06,01t matter07.06,01
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 It's okay.
<TinkerBe||> I think it only worked with you and I because
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Hold on.
<TinkerBe||> we're really close sami
<TinkerBe||> wait
<TinkerBe||> she gave you logs?
<TinkerBe||> already?
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I asked her for them?
<TinkerBe||> ah
<TinkerBe||> okay
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I can't understand a situation until I read it, rofl.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Favoring isn't cool in disagreements with people you like on both sides :)
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 who is ncafk
<TinkerBe||> paola
<TinkerBe||> nyancat
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 thank you
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 oh, i skipped that change, rofl ty
<TinkerBe||> np
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Well, Paola is dumb in this issue so I'm elimatinating her even though I'll finish the log to the end. She was just all over the place.
<TinkerBe||> yes
<TinkerBe||> haha
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Okay.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Here's what I think if I was just chilling and watching and knew nothing other than what has been presented with the entire issue.
<TinkerBe||> okay well
<TinkerBe||> i don't mean to be rude, but I am going to sleep
<TinkerBe||> it's been an hour since this happened
<TinkerBe||> and i tried getting in touch with her to explain Sami doesn't think she's a whore, but
<TinkerBe||> I'm tired now
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 This is in pieces
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 okay take care <3
<TinkerBe||> you too! <3
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 You (Sami) in a generalization beat around the bush way DID call Kiley a whore. No, you did not say it. Yes, I do realize that. You have to take into consideration though that ANYONE who is at least female and a good majority of males probably would've taken it that way. Feelings are fragile. They
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 súck. You did kind of point the finger where not needed BUT you admited your faults and agreed you arent perfect. That isn't an issue because you were completely mature.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Kiley DID overreact for the fact of rage quitting and not talking it out. I do feel though if most
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 people got a rude comment given to them that would sincerely hurt their feelings they would over react. That is normal. It doesn't make it correct. It does happen though. I understand you were trying to help from my viewpoint and feel FREE to correct me if I am wrong but doing it in a public room was harsh.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I'm basically saying I think you both need to talk it out maturely. No rage quits. No bítch fights. Yeah, it's hard. I know it is.. but we all know it should be done. <3 I love you both.
<Nala> 06,0108N06,01ext time07,06,01 08I06,01 have an opinion07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108I06,0107'06,01m not going to say anything07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01t07'06,01s better that way07.06,01
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Just sugar coat it if you do.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I know that sounds really wrong.. but that's probably the only reason I'm still stuck in therapy.
<Nala> 06,0108I06,0107'06,01ll go back to being dishonest and not say anything07.06,01 08Y06,01es07,06,01 people got mad cause they never knew how 08I06,01 felt07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108B06,01ut it07'06,01s better than this07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108K06,01ae07,06,01 you never sugar coat anything07.06,01
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I'm not mad at either of you. I just wish you'd work it out.
<TinkerBe||> and I am still here...
<TinkerBe||> well
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 That's my point.
<TinkerBe||> put it this way
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I am there because I súck at it.
<TinkerBe||> I'll be very open
<Nala> 06,0108Y06,01ou aren07'06,01t really one to tell me to sugarcoat it07.06,01
<TinkerBe||> and say
<TinkerBe||> I told Sami the exact same thing
<TinkerBe||> she told Kiley tonight
<TinkerBe||> a couple weeks ago
<TinkerBe||> Sami didn't overreact and say
<TinkerBe||> 'thanks for calling me a whore mariea'
<TinkerBe||> cause i wasn't
<TinkerBe||> and i don't think or see what she said as calling her a whore
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01f 08I06,01 thought 08K06,01iley was a whore
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01 would have said
<TinkerBe||> flirting does not make someone a whore
<Nala> 06,0107'06,0108KILEY06,01 08YOU06,01 08ARE06,01 08A06,01 08FUCKING06,01 08WHORE06,0107,06,01 08GET06,01 08A06,01 08LIFE06,0107."06,01
<Nala> 06,0108D06,01id 08I06,01 say that07?06,01
<Nala> 06,0108N06,01o07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108C06,01ause it didn07'06,01t even
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 You just did what she did though you know.
<Nala> 06,01cross my mind07.06,01
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 You misread what I stated about sugarcoating.
<TinkerBe||> no I read it
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Not you.
<TinkerBe||> ah ok
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I'm not being mean there obviously because I'm not raging.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I'm just saying no one is perfect.
<TinkerBe||> well let me ask you a question Kristin
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Go ahead.
<TinkerBe||> Kiley is a good friend of yours
<TinkerBe||> yes?
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Indeed.
<TinkerBe||> so you look out for her to an extent
<TinkerBe||> correct
<TinkerBe||> ?
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Yes. I understand that COMPLETELY. I really truly do.
<TinkerBe||> okay well
<TinkerBe||> Lindsay, up until recently
<TinkerBe||> i don't know what happened
<TinkerBe||> what i did
<TinkerBe||> or didn't do
<TinkerBe||> but he and i were good friends
<TinkerBe||> so
<TinkerBe||> in my head
<TinkerBe||> i've been looking out for him
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I was ONLY stating the above statement about sugarcoating because it was taken as a generalization.
<TinkerBe||> and going along with what Sami said... it concerns me
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Alright.
<TinkerBe||> cause I don't want him hurt
<TinkerBe||> or even Kiley for that matter
<TinkerBe||> which I told her
<TinkerBe||> but she signed off skype
<TinkerBe||> so yeah
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Right.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I guess there are different levels of getting hurt though and you both know that.
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<TinkerBe||> yes
<Princesa> 00,01 Welcome to #nommer00,01 Kileycherie
<TinkerBe||> I do
<Kileycherie> Look Sam. I'm not mad at you. I shouldn't have ragequit, I should have stayed and we should have talked it out. However I didn't because I'm in a very good mood right now and I'd like to keep it that way. I don't want this shit ruining our friendship so lets just quit talking about it and deal with it later please.
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<TinkerBe||> ..
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 They know they are not dating. They are not offical. It could happen.. but if it doesn't it would be a different kind of hurt in that aspect.
<TinkerBe||> Of course they're not official
<TinkerBe||> she's with Ricky still, right?
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 No.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 She sent him a text message telling him they didn't speak in 12 hours they are over.
<TinkerBe||> okay well
<TinkerBe||> lol
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 He won't respond. I hate saying that.. but both me and her know it is true.
<TinkerBe||> hey, if she likes lindsay and he likes her, i say go for it right
<TinkerBe||> i told her the same
<TinkerBe||> but
<TinkerBe||> she's gone from ricky, to alex, to ricky and then missing alex and now lindsay
<TinkerBe||> so i'm a bit confused
<TinkerBe||> i wish them well
<TinkerBe||> whatever she decides
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I have been in her position and I can explain the best in this way.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Kiley knows she deserves someone to love her as she can return. The hard part for her is she had someone show her love and it turned out empty.. yet she still wanted it because that was her first handful and who she cared about the most.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 She moved to Alex and they were happy. She was mending Ricky. The scúmbag came back and fooled her.. and she got fúcked over.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I don't know how her and Lindsay started.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I do know I feed her everyday that he's the best option out of any option. She agrees. Shes just mending because she is hurt.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 It may not be an excuse for how it's being handled. It's hard though.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 She's not a slút. She's not a whore. I think I get more messages from her being upset about the thing than about anything else. It's a time game..
<TinkerBe||> ricky
<TinkerBe||> i don't give a shit about
<TinkerBe||> i've heard
<TinkerBe||> so many bad things about him
<TinkerBe||> but you're right
<TinkerBe||> it isn't being handled well at all
<TinkerBe||> and
<TinkerBe||> I know what it's like to be given empty love or however you want to put it
<TinkerBe||> but i didn't find myself
<TinkerBe||> nevermind
<TinkerBe||> because no matter how i say it
<TinkerBe||> it's going to sound nasty
<TinkerBe||> and i adore kiley
<TinkerBe||> so forget it
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 All I am trying to say is she doesn't have bad intentions. It may come across as that with just a quick glance and without detail.. but she doesn't.
<Nala> 06,0108I06,0107'06,01ve been given empty love too07,06,01 and 08I06,01 just went off on my own and mended by myself07.06,01 08T06,01hat07'06,01s the best way to do it07,06,01 imo07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01 don07'06,01t get this from going from guy to guy thing07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0107:/06,01
<TinkerBe||> yes
<TinkerBe||> what she said
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 You also have to remember there are different personalities in the world.
<Nala> 06,0108Y06,01ou don07'06,01t mend that way
<TinkerBe||> Alex seemed like a nice guy
<Nala> 06,0108Y06,01ou get more hurt07.06,01
<TinkerBe||> I know Lindsay is
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I mended just fine that way after time passed.
<TinkerBe||> exactly
<TinkerBe||> exactly
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 My personality is different from yours.
<TinkerBe||> so maybe since you are her best friend, you could suggest she take time for herself
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 That's probably why we are paired in the twos we are in.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I have.
<TinkerBe||> that is true
<TinkerBe||> but i think everyone needs time for themselves
<TinkerBe||> otherwise every relationship you get into
<TinkerBe||> becomes attempts
<TinkerBe||> to fix yourself
<TinkerBe||> or fill some void
<TinkerBe||> the previous one left you with
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 She is as stubborn as I ever was. I don't find it to be a bad thing in the long run. She knows I'm here for her.. and I give her advice that is usually right on at any time.. It's her choice to take it.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I don't feel that way because Raine was meant to be that.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 A good two weeks.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 It depends. It's all about personalities as stated above and time in this case.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I don't know what else to say :/
<TinkerBe||> me either
<TinkerBe||> I care about a lot of people on here
<TinkerBe||> but there are only a couple
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01 feel like07,06,01 if you07'06,01re always in relationships07.06,01
<TinkerBe||> i can be there for
<TinkerBe||> like you're saying
<Nala> 06,0108Y06,01ou never really know who 08YOU06,01 are
<Nala> 06,01on your own07.06,01
<TinkerBe||> and of the people 'our circle' knows
<Nala> 06,0108J06,01ust who you are in a relationship07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108W06,01hich is no where close to the same07.06,01
<TinkerBe||> it's basically just Sami I could watch repeatedly not take advice when giving it to her and watching her fuck up
<TinkerBe||> not that she does
<TinkerBe||> i am just saying
<TinkerBe||> i don't have
<TinkerBe||> that sort of patience
<TinkerBe||> with everyone
<Nala> 06,0108C06,01ause after 08B06,01rett and 08I06,01 broke up last 08D06,01ecember07,06,01 08M06,01ariea will verify this07,06,01 08I06,01 was a wreck and lost07.06,01 j07/06,01s
<TinkerBe||> yes
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01 didn07'06,01t who 08I06,01 was
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I understand all those things. I promise I do.. but as I stated it's about the personality. Everyone is not alike.
<Nala> 06,01or what 08I06,01 was supposed to do07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108B06,01ut taking time for me
<Nala> 06,01helped me a lot07.06,01
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I know some things may urk you. Hey, some things urk me and everyone else in the world.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 But if you don't learn to tolerate what you can't or cut it.. you will be miserable.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 You just kind of have to make that choice now with this friendship. We both know that.
<TinkerBe||> I agree with what you're saying
<TinkerBe||> everyone is not a like
<TinkerBe||> but clearly from the looks of it
<TinkerBe||> she needs time to think about what she really wants
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I understand that is your opinion. It's also the situation though of you not being her. Maybe she doesn't feel she needs that right now or possibly not at all.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 If she fúcks up, she does. If she doesn't, that is great too. It's her job to do either though :/.
<TinkerBe||> yep
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 I just don't think any of you should be fighting over something so miniscule(?). I know picking your battles or even just saying something at the wrong time is hard to uh, pick for lack of better word at times.. but we're pretty mature here compared to the other shmucks on this server.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 Don't let something fúck up what you want. I love all of you. I hope it mends.
<Nala> 06,0108I06,01 didn07'06,01t mean to cause any shit07.06,01 07:/06,01
<TinkerBe||> I hope so too
<TinkerBe||> me neither
<TinkerBe||> which is why i didn't say anything
<Nala> 06,0108A06,01nd now 08I06,0107'06,01ve upset two people 08I06,01 care about tonight07.06,01
<Nala> 06,0108S06,01o07,06,01 08I06,0107'06,01m feeling like a bit of a loser07.06,01
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<bulletproofvest> 4,1 You aren't a loser.
<bulletproofvest> 4,1 You're a human. It's a much better title.
<TinkerBe||> anyway
<TinkerBe||> tc girls
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