<Zill> sup, lunacy is suppose to be submod not designer. its changed but server needs to reset
<MrDudle> he's thinking he's a designer
<Zill> i know
<MrDudle> and is going to be snow's designer
<Zill> nothing I can do till the stupid server recognizes the change
<MrDudle> cause if he was going to be snow's
<MrDudle> i was going to take tragedy as my sub
<Zill> when everything changes we'll see what lunacy wants to do
<MrDudle> i know he wants to be a designer
<Zill> well he has to apply for it like everyone else :P
<MrDudle> also
<MrDudle> i had an idea
<Zill> submod is different its 100% mod choice
<MrDudle> to both foster cooperation
<MrDudle> and test true design skill
<MrDudle> idk if you are interested in that
<Zill> so whats the idea?
<MrDudle> ok basically
<MrDudle> you have a big wall to block view
<MrDudle> and behind the wall
<MrDudle> you have a few areas set for building
<MrDudle> then you have 2 or more teams
<MrDudle> of 2 or more players
<MrDudle> and each gets 4 minutes to build using materials in their chest
<MrDudle> which you give them
<MrDudle> then after 4 minutes
<MrDudle> player 1 goes back behind the wall
<MrDudle> and player 2 has to go and add to it
<MrDudle> basically it ends pu showing how well they work as a team
<MrDudle> and shows how creative they can be
<MrDudle> when finishing something someone else started
<Zill> hmm
<Zill> Im sure something like that can be done
<MrDudle> i saw it used on a design show
<MrDudle> they did makeup and whatnot
<MrDudle> and had to create a character
<MrDudle> the only thing they were given to work with
<MrDudle> was the color of the contacts the model's wore
<MrDudle> you could do something similar
<MrDudle> like telling them the emphasis is on blue or w/e
<MrDudle> this could really help designers
<MrDudle> like say the arch builds the bulk of something
<MrDudle> tells them to add the finishing touches
<MrDudle> and the designer has to work with what is there
<Zill> yeah im sure it would work mrdudle
<MrDudle> you want me to set up an area for it
<Zill> not right now
<Zill> I am still hiring people for those jobs
<Zill> i believe we only have 2 designers, maybe three
<MrDudle> you could also use it as a way to weed out people that don't work well with others
<Zill> once we get more we can do your idea
<MrDudle> also
<MrDudle> s33k didn't really want to bring it up
<MrDudle> but i know why he was thinking on stepping down
<Zill> ok
<MrDudle> well he's the arch for the main world
<MrDudle> and 8 cities to build is kind of making him feel overwhelmed with the idea
<MrDudle> so i took the iniative to get some of the other arch's to help him out with designing
<MrDudle> when it comes to it
<Zill> the other architects will have jobs to do
<MrDudle> 8 cities for 1 arch is too much man
<Zill> so unfortunately that will not work
<Zill> mrdudle, Im well aware of what is has to do as im the one who gave him the assignment
<MrDudle> i know
<MrDudle> and i'm trying to commuicate with you about it
<MrDudle> he's not going to say he feels like it'll be too much
<MrDudle> because that isn't how s33k works
<Zill> they he is feel to step down
<MrDudle> which is why i am trying to bridge the gap with COMMUNICATION
<Zill> you are mediating something that doesn't involve you
<MrDudle> And you aren't taking people into account
<MrDudle> You don't listen to the concerns of others
<Zill> mrdudle I am talking all things into account, it is you who doesn't take that into account
<MrDudle> So you think 1 person designing 8 cities on a schedule is normal?
<Zill> mrdudle, do you think I should explain my instructions to s33k to everyone else as well?
<MrDudle> I read your post
<MrDudle> I have no idea why I even bother trying to help
<MrDudle> You have never been one to listen
<Zill> ok so if you did read the post you will see it was addressed to both laser and s33k
<MrDudle> That's still a lot of cities for two people dude
<MrDudle> Also
<MrDudle> lunacy is on
<Zill> mrdudle they both have the ability to find 2 designers for themselves to us
<Zill> use
<Zill> s33k has one I believe
<Zill> and I also explained to s33k that there is also no deadline on the post
<MrDudle> Here's the issue i'm having at the moment
<MrDudle> I'm trying to bring up a concern to you
<Zill> mrdudle it isnt your concern
<MrDudle> and you are acting like I'm trying to undermine you.
<MrDudle> Maybe you don't like communication
<Zill> you are trying to mediate an issue you dont have all the facts for
<MrDudle> I know how s33k is feeling
<MrDudle> Because I actually talk to people
<Zill> then tell s33k to talk to me
<MrDudle> I kind of get the impression you intimidate him a bit
<MrDudle> so he has trouble talking to you about his concerns
<MrDudle> I'm really not trying to cause you trouble
<MrDudle> I'm genuinely trying to help
<MrDudle> where I see an issue
<Zill> mrdudle, I appreciate you are concerned for s33k. He has the ability to talk to me and has done so. However, if a mod/arch can't talk to me personally then it isnt going to be a good fit and they should reconsider their position
<Zill> I have admins setup for a reason
<MrDudle> Maybe they can't talk to you personally because of how you respond
<MrDudle> You are up on your pedestal always talking down
<Zill> mrdudle, I am on a pedestal talking down, I give him his orders
<MrDudle> It is a fucking game
<MrDudle> this isn't a job
<MrDudle> we aren't in the military
<MrDudle> And talking down to people just pisses them off
<MrDudle> If you want to act like some cum guzzling dictator fine but when it doesn't work out you'll know why
<Zill> I think you misunderstand giving him instructions and insulting him
<Zill> a
<MrDudle> as a note lunacy is on
<Zill> i know, he's been on, as I told you in the beginning he was changed to submod
<Zill> there is nothing i can do with the commands taking awhile to work
<MrDudle> That's fine
<MrDudle> I figured you'd want to talk with him about the designer application
<MrDudle> if not fine
<MrDudle> I apologize sincerely for daring to try and help on fantasia
<MrDudle> I'll avoid trying to do anything constructive in the future
<MrDudle> Wouldn't want your pedestal to crumble
<Zill> btw, your sarcasm doesnt help get you promoted and is one of the reasons why you wont ever be promoted
<MrDudle> Dude
<MrDudle> promotion is irrelevant
<MrDudle> It's a game
<MrDudle> If you think trying to help out is trying to get promoted
<MrDudle> you are sorely mistaken
<MrDudle> and you should perhaps rethink how you view things
<MrDudle> If you think everyone is just out to rank up by helping
<MrDudle> you are the last person that should be in charge
<MrDudle> And if you think being helpful is trying to get promoted you can just fucking demote me
<MrDudle> cause I have no desire to work under some thankless boob
<Zill> I tell you what. As much as it pains me to not just ban you from this "game" I won't. Here's the reason why, I do like that you speak your mind, but on several occasions, not including this one, it runs you into trouble. The server is being setup this way so people don't become lazy and do whats required of them AND have fun. Too many people were mods/admins and didn't do anything and maybe
<Zill> even harrassed people.
<MrDudle> Feel free to ban me
<MrDudle> I honestly do not give a shit
<MrDudle> I have principles I stand by
<MrDudle> and if those come into trouble with how you think the world works then we can be done
<Zill> fine, if you so desire it. Principles are a good thing to stand by and I respect that you do.
<MrDudle> I mean if my principles have to come after the way you want to do things
<MrDudle> I have no place here
<MrDudle> And want no place here
<Zill> I never asked you to sacrific any principles but it seems you feel you are.
<MrDudle> Perhaps it would do you some good to learn how IRC works.
<Zill> I can't change that and just explained myself for doing what I did, and more than anything, it was simply your mouth that got you into trouble.
<MrDudle> Learn to IRC bitch.
<MrDudle> Have fun getting back in.
<MrDudle> Not able to? dawwww
<Zill> i can unban myself like you can dork
<MrDudle> I bet you still can't get in.
<MrDudle> So before you dork me
<MrDudle> learn to use IRC sucka
<Zill> I don't have to try to get back I can just go over you
<MrDudle> lol
<MrDudle> You can try
<MrDudle> Having troubles babe
<Zill> im not currently trying
<MrDudle> mhmm