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  7. Channel ID: -87871061
  8. Channel Name: Private Chat (Envoy Arby)
  9. Listener: Megan Shadowkiss
  10. Session started: 2018.01.21 04:06:32
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  13. [ 2018.01.21 04:06:36 ] Megan Shadowkiss > what?
  14. [ 2018.01.21 04:06:36 ] Envoy Arby > Hello
  15. [ 2018.01.21 04:06:47 ] Envoy Arby > I'm going to need you to stand down, you're only causing additional work for yourself
  16. [ 2018.01.21 04:06:57 ] Envoy Arby > We have 200 alts in this corporation
  17. [ 2018.01.21 04:07:21 ] Megan Shadowkiss > You know I like you..... but touching the family is out of my comfort zone
  18. [ 2018.01.21 04:07:54 ] Envoy Arby > You need to just let it happen and not stress over it
  19. [ 2018.01.21 04:08:14 ] Envoy Arby > Responding to invividual mails will cause more mails to be sent
  20. [ 2018.01.21 04:08:38 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I do stress over it, you went from training to propaganda (until here, perfectly fine), but now scamming my friends?
  21. [ 2018.01.21 04:08:40 ] Megan Shadowkiss > nah
  22. [ 2018.01.21 04:08:59 ] Envoy Arby > I like you too :megan:, but you need to understand that we have demands
  23. [ 2018.01.21 04:09:05 ] Envoy Arby > It's for MRM's own good that these demands are met
  24. [ 2018.01.21 04:09:10 ] Envoy Arby > We are helping
  25. [ 2018.01.21 04:09:16 ] Megan Shadowkiss > well, enlighten me
  26. [ 2018.01.21 04:09:45 ] Megan Shadowkiss > you are not helping, you make a fun game a terrible experience for some people, who in terms quit.
  27. [ 2018.01.21 04:09:48 ] Megan Shadowkiss > well done!
  28. [ 2018.01.21 04:10:19 ] Envoy Arby > MRM needs to get out of Highsec. The fact that MRM won't get out of Highsec is the root of the problem, and the reason so many MRM affiliated players quit.
  29. [ 2018.01.21 04:10:36 ] Envoy Arby > MRM in its current state is a machine that converts new players into deadwood.
  30. [ 2018.01.21 04:10:51 ] Megan Shadowkiss > This is a fun game that a lot of people spend real money on. Why would you put so much effort in making them quit?
  31. [ 2018.01.21 04:11:08 ] Megan Shadowkiss > And who are you to decide where people live?
  32. [ 2018.01.21 04:11:38 ] Envoy Arby > MRM's well intentioned but wrongheaded mass-recruitment of noobs is the cause of players you know quitting. MRM should not be recruiting noobs as long as it is operating in Highsec.
  33. [ 2018.01.21 04:12:04 ] Megan Shadowkiss > No, we move to lowsec and recruit newbro's there?
  34. [ 2018.01.21 04:12:13 ] Envoy Arby > It's not the worst corp in Highsec, but it is the largest of the terrible corps.
  35. [ 2018.01.21 04:12:26 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I know you are not going to budge anyway, so I feel this conversation is a waste of my time
  36. [ 2018.01.21 04:12:47 ] Envoy Arby > It's you all that need to budge - budge right out of Highsec.
  37. [ 2018.01.21 04:13:00 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Any idea where I am now?
  38. [ 2018.01.21 04:13:20 ] Megan Shadowkiss > correct, lowsec
  39. [ 2018.01.21 04:13:21 ] Envoy Arby > Probably in lowsec, which is a great start. But MRM needs to vacate from Highsec completely.
  40. [ 2018.01.21 04:13:35 ] Megan Shadowkiss > not going to happen, ever.,.....
  41. [ 2018.01.21 04:13:49 ] Megan Shadowkiss > so just give up, you are not getting what you want
  42. [ 2018.01.21 04:13:50 ] Envoy Arby > Then I guess we're going to be playing together for a long, long time.
  43. [ 2018.01.21 04:14:04 ] Envoy Arby > As you know we're very patient.
  44. [ 2018.01.21 04:14:13 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I am too...
  45. [ 2018.01.21 04:14:33 ] Envoy Arby > Excellent, I wouldn't want for you to be frustrated. You're one of the good ones.
  46. [ 2018.01.21 04:14:57 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I could have left this corp long ago, going to chase the big world and all it has, but I care for my friends and I like FF
  47. [ 2018.01.21 04:15:20 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I like you too, but this is crossing a line I can't approve
  48. [ 2018.01.21 04:15:45 ] Envoy Arby > Save yourself the stress and take a hands-off approach. It will make the coming months easier.
  49. [ 2018.01.21 04:15:48 ] Envoy Arby > Like I said, 200 alts.
  50. [ 2018.01.21 04:16:29 ] Megan Shadowkiss > 200, 400.... I don't care. We are open door, which means we probably have another 200 spy's
  51. [ 2018.01.21 04:16:48 ] Envoy Arby > https://drive.google.com/file/d/19gaZvXf53fi95VcTCkV1sa42M2nEqiyi/view
  52. [ 2018.01.21 04:16:51 ] Megan Shadowkiss > It is the people I learned to know I care about. My friends.
  53. [ 2018.01.21 04:17:02 ] Envoy Arby > According to this trading card that's not exactly the case re; the open door policy
  54. [ 2018.01.21 04:17:38 ] Megan Shadowkiss > We like to keep our valued members safe. And a trading card like that is getting on a personal level.
  55. [ 2018.01.21 04:17:47 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I would like you to remove it.
  56. [ 2018.01.21 04:18:31 ] Envoy Arby > It's meant as a joke between friends
  57. [ 2018.01.21 04:19:03 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I have quit the game before, because it got personal. I start to feel it is happening again. Don't make me quit what I love so much.
  58. [ 2018.01.21 04:19:23 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Megan Shadowlick
  59. [ 2018.01.21 04:19:24 ] Envoy Arby > We might be on different sides of this thing, but surely we can put our differences aside
  60. [ 2018.01.21 04:19:35 ] Megan Shadowkiss > that is one of the examples
  61. [ 2018.01.21 04:20:12 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Where does your Fly Fearless obsession comes from?
  62. [ 2018.01.21 04:20:15 ] Envoy Arby > This isn't personal in the slightest. You know what we want.
  63. [ 2018.01.21 04:20:23 ] Envoy Arby > We want you to join us. Join us Megan.
  64. [ 2018.01.21 04:21:06 ] Megan Shadowkiss > You know what I want.... Go pick on retrievers, gank freighters, station spin in Jita and scam away, but let EVE be great and stop harassing new players.
  65. [ 2018.01.21 04:21:37 ] Envoy Arby > We're saving the new players from joining a terrible corp where 95% of members end up going inactive. That's what happens when HIghsec corps recruit new players.
  66. [ 2018.01.21 04:21:58 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I will join you on an alt. I will do so in March, when your sceme is kicking off, but I refuse to straight up make the game very un-fun for players who try to get their bearings in EVE
  67. [ 2018.01.21 04:22:16 ] Envoy Arby > These players would be much better off somewhere else.
  68. [ 2018.01.21 04:22:29 ] Envoy Arby > KarmaFleet, Pandemic Horde, Brand Newbros
  69. [ 2018.01.21 04:22:36 ] Megan Shadowkiss > And what makes you think you can decide that for them?
  70. [ 2018.01.21 04:22:57 ] Envoy Arby > Because I know Highsec. I've been doing this for a very long time.
  71. [ 2018.01.21 04:23:33 ] Megan Shadowkiss > They click our ad, they can join whenever and leave whenever. I don't feel responsible for their choises. I can guide them, not force them.
  72. [ 2018.01.21 04:24:00 ] Envoy Arby > There shouldn't be an ad - not until MRM pivots out of Highsec completely.
  73. [ 2018.01.21 04:24:10 ] Envoy Arby > It's bad for the health of the game for MRM to mass recruit newbros.
  74. [ 2018.01.21 04:24:30 ] Envoy Arby > As I pointed out, something like 95% of new joins go inactive.
  75. [ 2018.01.21 04:24:38 ] Megan Shadowkiss > There will be an ad, we will gain members, we will lose members and there is not much you can do about that.
  76. [ 2018.01.21 04:25:31 ] Envoy Arby > There's plenty I can do about it. I can continue to make life in Highsec very difficult for MRM.
  77. [ 2018.01.21 04:25:45 ] Envoy Arby > It's tough love.
  78. [ 2018.01.21 04:25:53 ] Envoy Arby > We have your best interests in mind.
  79. [ 2018.01.21 04:26:00 ] Megan Shadowkiss > And may I congratulate you on the fact you are likely to make me quit EVE. I like playing games, but only up to the point where the game becomes a frustration.
  80. [ 2018.01.21 04:26:30 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Then it is time to move on and choose another game and make new friends
  81. [ 2018.01.21 04:26:34 ] Megan Shadowkiss > thanks for that
  82. [ 2018.01.21 04:26:41 ] Envoy Arby > MRM's impossible policies are the root of your frustration.
  83. [ 2018.01.21 04:26:55 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Nope, you are at this time
  84. [ 2018.01.21 04:27:34 ] Envoy Arby > Hardly. It's being in Highsec that is the problem.
  85. [ 2018.01.21 04:27:43 ] Megan Shadowkiss > not for me
  86. [ 2018.01.21 04:28:02 ] Envoy Arby > For you especially, because you care about MRM and its future.
  87. [ 2018.01.21 04:28:07 ] Megan Shadowkiss > it is the people who can't stop pushing members to the point they quit a great game
  88. [ 2018.01.21 04:28:34 ] Envoy Arby > You don't need to quit the game. You just need to quit Highsec. The whole corp needs to quit Highsec.
  89. [ 2018.01.21 04:29:19 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I decide what I do with my life.
  90. [ 2018.01.21 04:29:25 ] Megan Shadowkiss > thanks again. it was fun
  91. [ 2018.01.21 04:29:37 ] Envoy Arby > You do decide, yes. But in EVE other people get a vote.
  92. [ 2018.01.21 04:30:31 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I just don't understand how you can have fun by making peoples game-time a misserable experience.
  93. [ 2018.01.21 04:30:42 ] Megan Shadowkiss > just move on, find other people to harass
  94. [ 2018.01.21 04:30:54 ] Megan Shadowkiss > training fine, but this is straight up harassing
  95. [ 2018.01.21 04:31:08 ] Envoy Arby > We're saving EVE, Megan.
  96. [ 2018.01.21 04:31:21 ] Envoy Arby > This is bigger than you or I, or even MRMNG.
  97. [ 2018.01.21 04:31:31 ] Megan Shadowkiss > You know I have bad night of sleep. It is just not worth it
  98. [ 2018.01.21 04:32:03 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Why would I keep playing a game I start to hate more and more
  99. [ 2018.01.21 04:32:03 ] Envoy Arby > Just think about the advice I tried to give you at the front end of our convo
  100. [ 2018.01.21 04:32:16 ] Envoy Arby > Don't be so emotionally invested in the success of MRM - it will only lead to frustration
  101. [ 2018.01.21 04:32:20 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Not going to happen.
  102. [ 2018.01.21 04:32:25 ] Envoy Arby > especially given MRM is standing in its own way
  103. [ 2018.01.21 04:32:52 ] Envoy Arby > It has significant potential, but with its current policies things will never change. It will only get worse.
  104. [ 2018.01.21 04:33:22 ] Megan Shadowkiss > THEY ARE MY FRIENDS!!!! I don't know if you have friends, but I fight for them, I laugh with them and cry with them. And it so happens a lot of guys in FF are my friends.
  105. [ 2018.01.21 04:33:30 ] Envoy Arby > If you care about these people you should support moving out of Highsec.
  106. [ 2018.01.21 04:33:52 ] Envoy Arby > What you're seeing - this is the way of Highsec. That will never change.
  107. [ 2018.01.21 04:37:12 ] Envoy Arby > There is good reason that no other large player entities operate out of Highsec as MRM does. It's a terrible, terrible idea.
  108. [ 2018.01.21 04:42:11 ] Megan Shadowkiss > and that is your oppinion.
  109. [ 2018.01.21 04:43:16 ] Envoy Arby > It's a fact, not an opinion.
  110. [ 2018.01.21 04:43:30 ] Envoy Arby > No other large player entities operate out of HIghsec in the same way as MRM.
  111. [ 2018.01.21 04:44:38 ] Envoy Arby > As long as MRMNG thinks that content creators like us are the problem - rather than alliance policies - operating out of Highsec will continue to be full of frustrations. It's baked in. That's what happens in Highsec.
  112. [ 2018.01.21 04:46:37 ] Megan Shadowkiss > Not if you quit this bs and move on to actual gameplay and make this game fun for the new guys who in the end provide you with more content
  113. [ 2018.01.21 04:47:00 ] Megan Shadowkiss > if you push all new people out of EVE, there is not much game to be played after a couple of years
  114. [ 2018.01.21 04:48:00 ] Envoy Arby > I'm not pushing you all out of EVE. I'm pushing you all out of Highsec. If MRMNG leadership recognizes this and pivots out of Highsec, MRMNG will retain more of the noobs that you claim to be interested in helping.
  115. [ 2018.01.21 04:48:21 ] Envoy Arby > I believe you sincerely think that MRM does more harm than good - but it doesn't. And it won't as long as your main bag is Highsec.
  116. [ 2018.01.21 04:49:32 ] Envoy Arby > The root of the problem isn't players like us - the root of the problem is corporations (specifically Highsec corporations) like MRMNG.
  117. [ 2018.01.21 04:51:01 ] Megan Shadowkiss > For now, you are the root of my problem. You are just lucky I can seperate my alts from Megan. As Megan I truely hate you, as my alts, I really like you and we could be great EvE buddies.
  118. [ 2018.01.21 04:52:22 ] Megan Shadowkiss > And you were not bad as a trainer, but like I said before, this is crossing lines
  119. [ 2018.01.21 04:52:27 ] Envoy Arby > Like I said, circumstances placed each of us on different sides of a struggle that is bigger than either of us. It's bigger than Assistance Group or MRMNG.
  120. [ 2018.01.21 04:53:55 ] Envoy Arby > The Forever War started before MRMNG evert hit the scene, and players like me will continue prosecuting this war long after MRMNG spins down.
  121. [ 2018.01.21 04:54:05 ] Megan Shadowkiss > I was going to run a few more combat sites, but I am actually going to bed. I can't be logged in any longer. I'm to the point where I'd like to smash my pc and not turn it on for a couple of months.
  122. [ 2018.01.21 04:54:28 ] Megan Shadowkiss > thanks for that.
  123. [ 2018.01.21 04:54:33 ] Megan Shadowkiss > see you
  124. [ 2018.01.21 04:54:35 ] Megan Shadowkiss > o/
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