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New Hundo Route explanation and timings

Dec 6th, 2015
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  1. This is a new route that doesn't do bombs early. Greatfish superswim is also eliminated from the route, and in fact, it would be considerably slower to do it anyways.
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  3. The major reason behind killing bombs early is getting the deluxe pictobox. In the bombs early route, we would have to detour back to Windfall after Forbidden Woods to give Lenzo the Forest Firefly, which takes ~1:15. Delaying getting bombs means we can get the dx pictobox when we get bombs.
  4. Not having bombs in Forbidden Woods only loses about 40-45 seconds, as we can use tingle bombs to compensate for most situations.
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  7. There are a few key notes that make the route definitively faster:
  8. . - Faster entry into Forbidden Woods with tingle balloon
  9. . - We do not need to change the wind south; after we savewarp from Islet of Steel, it automatically puts us in KoRL, and . because we've beaten DRC, this sets the flag to allow us to enter KoRL whenever we want
  10. . - We delay getting the HP at Forest Haven until the forest water quest, this will means we have 1 less heart in Earth . Temple making damage ~5+ seconds faster
  11. . - Faster strat for getting the Forest Haven HP
  12. . - Getting to the pirate ship at Windfall is faster
  13. . - We can buy Beedle items after Forbidden Woods without having to enter twice, saving about 5 seconds
  14. . - This route cuts out several save warps, about a minutes worth:
  15. - after Greatfish
  16. - after DX pictobox
  17. - after getting Forest Haven HP
  18. - after getting Forest Water
  19. - superswimming to Windfall from E. Tri to avoid fadeout
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  21. There are a few downsides to factor:
  22. . - Deku Tree cutscene skip is harder without bombs, and if you don't get right side chus due to RNG, you have to try again . - I originally thought that certain chus would be impossible without bombs, but upon further research, crawling at . certain angles will always wedge them out
  23. - Forbidden Woods is more difficult without bombs
  24. - Starting the Windmill at Windfall is slightly slower. Though I'm skeptical it would lose much to no time anyways, since . we would do it while waiting for Mila bottle
  25. . - Islet of Steel from N. Triangle is a difficult superswim, but I would still take it over Greatfish any day
  26. . - Rope game 2 is harder to go fast
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  29. Rough estimates put the time save to be over 2 minutes
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