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Flowing Thoughts on the Limits of Idea Systems

JaysonSunshine
Mar 8th, 2018
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  1. 3:34:34 PM→ FlowingWater has joined
  2. 3:34:34 PMⓘ http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2018/03/02/tn-lt-gov-urges-voters-to-reject-candidate-b...
  3. 3:36:06 PMmr_Hands01i watch this chat room, ok
  4. 3:36:12 PMmr_Hands01but what do i see
  5. 3:36:58 PM→ SanderB has joined
  6. 3:36:59 PM@AllTheNightsINeverHadBitches01110000 01110000 0001010
  7. 3:39:08 PM+eelated.q
  8. 3:41:28 PM@AllTheNightsINeverHadBitchesso im watching the new peewee herman movie
  9. 3:41:44 PM+eelateddick out?
  10. 3:42:00 PM Ignoring AllTheNightsINeverHadBitches!*@*
  11. 3:42:05 PMFlowingWater AllTheNightsINeverHadBitches: I put you on ignore.
  12. 3:42:12 PMFlowingWater Further, I recommend you lose your operatorship.
  13. 3:42:18 PMFlowingWater As you're excessively impulsive.
  14. 3:42:29 PM+eelatedi just started watching breaking bad
  15. 3:42:37 PMArreBajeyay
  16. 3:42:46 PM+eelatedty
  17. 3:43:01 PMArreBajelet me know if you can hang om past season 2
  18. 3:43:09 PM+eelatedk
  19. 3:43:20 PMArreBaje😉
  20. 3:43:22 PM+eelatedim like 4 ep. into the 1st season
  21. 3:43:34 PMFlowingWater Breaking Bad was pretty good.
  22. 3:43:39 PMFlowingWater I thought it was slightly worse than the general consensus.
  23. 3:43:53 PM← Ardeshir has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  24. 3:44:09 PM+eelatedi liked the killing
  25. 3:44:28 PMFlowingWater I would rate Breaking Bad about 8.25-8.5 out of 10.
  26. 3:44:53 PMFlowingWater The Expanse is much, much better.
  27. 3:45:05 PMFlowingWater The Expanse is one of the best pieces of science fiction of all time.
  28. 3:45:11 PM+eelatedalso ozark seems ok
  29. 3:48:18 PM@PhaenomenalI tried to watch The Expanse. It didn't ring my chimes.
  30. 3:48:19 PMFlowingWater I rate this channel as a 4 out of 10.
  31. 3:48:37 PMFlowingWater Management, three. Chatters, four and heif.
  32. 3:49:04 PMArreBajeFW. did Expanse get dropped?
  33. 3:49:14 PMFlowingWater "get dropped"
  34. 3:49:16 PMFlowingWater This is your question.
  35. 3:49:27 PMArreBaje i really want to see it continue
  36. 3:49:44 PMFlowingWater The next episode, per a cursory Google search, is 2018 Apr 11.
  37. 3:49:56 PMFlowingWater The current date in the United State Homeland is 2018 Mar 08.
  38. 3:50:20 PMFlowingWater Phaenomenal: Is it possible you're not smart enough to appreciate it?
  39. 3:51:05 PMFlowingWater https://youtu.be/CAHixhpbwlw?t=1308
  40. 3:51:33 PMFlowingWater ArreBaje: What is the future of human civilization?
  41. 3:52:04 PMFlowingWater Specifically, what is the solution to the fact that some of our species are able to use mass media and data science to manipulate/persuade/domesticate the minds of large amount of other humans.
  42. 3:52:12 PMFlowingWater Especially given the current context of universal suffrage.
  43. 3:52:42 PM@PhaenomenalMost things on tv bore the shit out of me. I don't have the inclination to sit there watching shit on the tv screen. I tend to wander off and do something else.
  44. 3:53:44 PMFlowingWater You sound like Col. Jessup just now.
  45. 3:53:59 PMArreBajeFW. not what ppl think
  46. 3:54:09 PMFlowingWater "I have neither the time nor the inclination to consume the latest TV shows. I'd rather desire the nightly news give me a quick update on world affairs."
  47. 3:54:26 PMFlowingWater "Either way, I don't give a damn about keeping up with the latest geopolitics on Mars."
  48. 3:54:46 PMFlowingWater "Did you watch The Expanse until its conclusion?"
  49. 3:54:54 PMFlowingWater "I... uh.. watched some episodes..."
  50. 3:55:15 PMFlowingWater I just realized "FW" means FlowingWater .
  51. 3:55:26 PMFlowingWater ArreBaje: Want to hear something scary?
  52. 3:55:41 PMSanderBHaha.
  53. 3:55:45 PMFlowingWater 1. All intellectual systems, including theories of government are incomplete.
  54. 3:56:11 PMFlowingWater 2. Key parts of modern intellectual systems use sentries to pursue the boundaries to that participants do not stray too far into The Unknown.
  55. 3:56:25 PMFlowingWater 3. Mass media and data science broke the 18th century of democracy our Framers leveraged.
  56. 3:56:56 PMFlowingWater 4. Our culture has an unconscious awareness our society has broken, but the sentinels keep us from thoroughly going down that line.
  57. 3:57:25 PMFlowingWater 5. Our society will never fix itself until a crisis outside of our threat models imposes reality in our model of reality which is becoming increasingly divergent from Truth (that mass media isn't compatible with democracy).
  58. 3:57:42 PMFlowingWater 6. We're in for a number of years of suffering until that crisis occurs.
  59. 3:57:48 PMFlowingWater 7. That crisis might be nuclear holocaust.
  60. 3:57:51 PMFlowingWater Fun.
  61. 3:58:43 PMFlowingWater Solution: If you want to have broad suffrage, you have to manage mass media. If you don't want to manage mass media, you have to manage suffrage.
  62. 3:59:00 PMFlowingWater This solution contradicts a core axiom of our current system and so is outside the Overton window.
  63. 3:59:33 PMFlowingWater We'll continue having a few owners of media companies leverage data science to cast an effect 30 million votes each election.
  64. 3:59:57 PMFlowingWater effective
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