Verlux v. Yolo

Verlux v. Yolo
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I have Yolo/Seraphim winning.  There was a lot of back and forth in this debate, between disagreeing on the feats themselves or anti feat posting by Verl.  In the end I settled on the following interp on each of these arguments

* Hanzo can hurt Seraphim.  There was a lot of back and forth regarding how good Hanzo’s feats were, but in the end I don’t think that really matters too much (I was leaning towards Yolo’s side however), mostly because I didn’t really buy Seraphim having great piercing dura as making him wholly invulnerable.  Resistant probably.

* Seraphim one shots Hanzo.  Not much to this.  I think Seraphim’s bident just has so much force and speed behind it that Hanzo would die or at least be taken out of the fight if it lands a single blow.

* Seraphim is fast, and Hanzo also maybe is.  Yolo did a good job presenting Seraphim’s speed, I generally bought that within some tolerance he’ll act quickly and throw his bident.  Verlux’s scaling was a bit less convincing.  Definitely bought that Hanzo was fast, but idk if I entirely get how he came up with some of the numbers he attached to the feats.

* Seraphim will (probably) hit Hanzo before the reverse.  I think the bident is fast and that it can do magic trickery hanzo might not expect so it’ll probably hit him pretty quickly into the fight.

 - The starting distance plays to Seraphim advantage.

Basically I think they both can hurt each other, but Seraphim one shots while Hanzo might not.  The 5 m starting distance really works to Seraphim’s advantage since he can just chuck a very fast one shot that’s tricky to dodge at his foe.  If this fight had a 5 ft starting distance it might be more Hanzo’s game, but as it stands Seraphim wins.


Also just a couple of notes as there was a lot wrong with some of the material analysis.  Density won’t be the sole factor in piercing resistance especially with a composite like concrete.  Also pretty sure copper isn’t notably more piercing resistant than concrete.  Could be wrong there though. Biggest though was Yolo’s use of Moh’s hardness.  Mohs is a relative hardness scale really only applicable to the field of geology.  100% useless for material science.  Vickers or Brinell or Rockwell hardness are what you’d want to use, and even then it wouldn’t be 100% relevant to gauge piercing.  The main failure mode for a brittle material under piercing with be shear.