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FR Charmander any% reroute timings

Aug 7th, 2024 (edited)
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  1. standard reroute (r3 bug catcher + wild + hiker nob) + candy to 33 for jiggly and candy to 41 for pidgeot (no charcoal)
  2.  
  3. (can switch to nido candy route on good pace or bad hp/sp. atk for onix)
  4. (can also fight top hiker, butterfree guy or pidgey/nidoran girl instead of killing wild)
  5. (can also usually fight any 2 of the 3 above instead of route 3 bug catcher, if you prefer your hp/ember/wild exp/stats after brock. need 51 pre-brock exp for top hiker + butterfree guy, 53 for top hiker + pidgey/nidoran girl, and any for top hiker + pidgey/nidoran girl. just be wary of L17 for pidgeotto)
  6.  
  7. good:
  8. - can run lower speed (-2)
  9. - no need to save early ember pp (-5)
  10. - safer moon (-4)
  11. - 18 pidgeotto (-4)
  12. - 19 rattata (-1)
  13. - 24 raticate (-3)
  14. - 29 misty (-2)
  15. - 30 weedle (-0.5)
  16. - 30 cubone (-0.5)
  17. - 30 slowpoke (-2)
  18. - 31 machop/onix (-1)
  19. - 33 jigglypuff (-0.5)
  20. - 33 graveler (-3)
  21. - 34 clefairies (-3)
  22. - better onix range with 31 iv (-0.5)
  23. - skip wing attack (-7)
  24. - 37 rhyhorn (-0.5)
  25. - 37 kangaskhan (-1)
  26. - 38 wartortle (-3)
  27. - 39 marowak (-1)
  28. - 41 pidgeot (-0.5)
  29. - 41 blastoise (-2)
  30. - 42 drowzee (-0.5)
  31. - no pp management in gio's gym (-0.5)
  32. - easier to teach sunny day and fire blast together (-1.5)
  33. - 52 viridian rival (-5)
  34. - better candy menus (-3.5)
  35. - extra level + 5 spa EVs for e4 (-27.5, depends on stats but never higher than -33 because old route could get silph candy)
  36. TOTAL: -85.5
  37.  
  38. bad:
  39. - take pewter center (+12)
  40. - get 32 wild exp (+4)
  41. - fight route 3 bug catcher instead of lass (+1)
  42. - less blaze in moon (+2.5)
  43. - fight hiker nob with geo range (+21)
  44. - 24/25 for rival (+5)
  45. - worse deathwarp options (+1)
  46. - more boat heal uses (+3)
  47. - can't fight L25 geodude in rock tunnel (+2.5)
  48. - slower erika's gym (+9)
  49. - tighter pp before heal pad (+1.5)
  50. - extra elixer (+6)
  51. - 42 for kanga (+2)
  52. - 45 for muk + 45 for blaine OR instead of 46 for muk OR 48 for blaine (+3)
  53. TOTAL: +73.5
  54.  
  55. ----------------------------------------
  56.  
  57. skip first forest trainer, fight minion for 257 more exp
  58.  
  59. good:
  60. - skip first forest trainer (-35)
  61. - 13 + metal claw for geodude (-7)
  62. - can 3hko onix with geo attack boost (-1)
  63. - 15 rattata (-1)
  64. - 16/charmeleon for moon rocket (-8)
  65. - 18 pidgeotto (-4)
  66. - 19 rattata (-1)
  67. - 24 raticate (-3)
  68. - save a candy or use it early (-25)
  69. - 29 misty (-2)
  70. - 30 weedle (-0.5)
  71. - 30 cubone (-1)
  72. - 30 slowpoke (-2)
  73. - 31 machop (-1)
  74. - 33 jigglypuff (-0.5)
  75. - 33 graveler (-3)
  76. - 34 clefairies (-3)
  77. - 37 kangaskhan (-1)
  78. - 40 blastoise (-1.5)
  79. - 41 drowzee (-0.5)
  80. - more money for charcoal (-1)
  81. TOTAL: -102
  82.  
  83. bad:
  84. - fight minion (+66)
  85. - extra heal for brock (+3)
  86. - ember pp is worse on average because of sand and defense curl (+2)
  87. - fight hiker nob with geo range (+21)
  88. - 24/25 for rival (+5)
  89. - slower erika's gym movement (+3)
  90. - 41/42 giovanni (+5)
  91. - no blaine candy flexibility (+1)
  92. TOTAL: +106
  93.  
  94. ----------------------------------------
  95.  
  96. candy to 22 for nidos route
  97.  
  98. good:
  99. - safer moon (-3)
  100. - 18 pidgeotto (-4)
  101. - 19 rattata (-1)
  102. - safer route 25 hiker (-3)
  103. - 24 raticate (-3)
  104. - late-game candy (-25)
  105. - 29 misty (-2)
  106. - 30 weedle (-0.5)
  107. - 30 cubone (-1)
  108. - 30 slowpoke (-2)
  109. - 31 machop (-1)
  110. - 33 jigglypuff (-0.5)
  111. - 33 graveler (-3)
  112. - 34 clefairies (-3)
  113. - 37 kangaskhan (-1)
  114. - 40 blastoise (-1.5)
  115. - 41 drowzee (-0.5)
  116. - more money for charcoal (-1)
  117. TOTAL: -56
  118.  
  119. bad:
  120. - fight route 3 bug catcher + 32 wild exp instead of lass (+15)
  121. - fight top hiker (53% geo) (+3)
  122. - fight hiker nob (guaranteed geo) (+15)
  123. - fight butterfree trainer (guaranteed) (+23)
  124. - 25/26 rival (barely matters) (+2)
  125. - slower erika's gym movement (+3)
  126. - 41/42 giovanni (+5)
  127. - no blaine candy flexibility (+1)
  128. TOTAL: +67
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