Session Start: Sat Aug 22 01:41:17 2015
Session Ident: #solveproblem
03[01:41] * Now talking in #solveproblem
01[01:41] <BoomBrush> ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
01[01:41] <BoomBrush> this doesnt look good
[01:41] <Derek> uhm
[01:41] <Derek> hi
[01:41] <Derek> erm
[01:41] <Derek> I'll bring rhythm
[01:41] <Xanti> it sure doesnt
[01:42] <Xanti> multiple reports
[01:42] <Xanti> valid proofs
03[01:42] * Rhythm (Thisisperso@AF95F4.D98558.D83FD2.C45A67) has joined #solveproblem
[01:42] <Rhythm> what now
[01:42] <Derek> erm
[01:42] <Derek> here's boom
01[01:42] <BoomBrush> i suspect this is the attempt at conflict resolution
[01:42] <Derek> Yes
[01:42] <Rhythm> ok
[01:42] <Derek> It is
[01:42] <Derek> by me
[01:42] <Xanti> you think this is fair play ?
01[01:43] <BoomBrush> okay so we have derek,rhythm,xanti here
01[01:43] <BoomBrush> uhhh the conflict is between derek/xanti yes?
[01:43] <Xanti> ...
[01:44] <Derek> No
[01:44] <Derek> it's between Rhythm and Xanti
[01:44] <Derek> And I'm trying to solve it
[01:44] <Derek> it's been going for what
[01:44] <Derek> like a  month now?
[01:44] <Derek> Ever since Rhy death evaded
[01:44] <Rhythm> did not
[01:44] <Derek> Or
[01:44] <Derek> at least
[01:44] <Derek> that's what xanti claims
[01:45] <Xanti> i have ss of you warning him
[01:45] <Derek> In my opinion /my spawnplace is unfair
[01:45] <Derek> in capture
[01:45] <Rhythm> what if I kick you
[01:45] <Derek> even Rhy thinks thattt
[01:45] <Rhythm> for death evade
[01:45] <Derek> So
[01:45] <Xanti> warn players for use /gotoplace and use /my spawnplace himself
[01:45] <Derek> Why did he do it?
[01:45] <Derek> Cuz it's allowed
[01:45] <Derek> xd
[01:45] <Rhythm> read again what I said
[01:45] <Derek> ok let's move on
[01:46] <Rhythm> Mr. Xanti
[01:46] <Derek> Rhy kicked SKs
[01:46] <Derek> while they capture
[01:46] <Rhythm> You might want to read my reply on that report
[01:46] <Derek> or defend
[01:46] <Rhythm> kick for death evade^
[01:46] <Derek> without warning
[01:46] <Derek> yes
[01:46] <Derek> death evade
[01:46] <Derek> but
[01:46] <Rhythm> warning is not needed
[01:46] <Derek> tbh I never seen him kick
[01:46] <Rhythm> kick - 1 warn
[01:46] <Derek> until it
[01:46] <Derek> until they start
[01:46] <Xanti> how much reports are needed ?
[01:46] <Derek> to capture our territories
[01:46] <Rhythm> maybe infinite
[01:46] <Derek> or defend theirs while we  are capturing
[01:46] <Derek> So
[01:47] <Derek> I don't really understand what happened
[01:47] <Derek> but
[01:47] <Derek> I want you to resolve thsi
[01:47] <Derek> this
[01:47] <Derek> with boom
[01:47] <Derek> eh boom wasup
01[01:47] <BoomBrush> hi
[01:47] <Derek> you ready
[01:47] <Derek> People
[01:47] <Derek> ok
[01:47] <Derek> xanti and rhythm
[01:47] <Rhythm> hi
[01:47] <Derek> say what exactly happened
[01:47] <Derek> xanti first
[01:48] <Derek> and what punishment you want
[01:48] <Xanti> warn players for use /gotoplace and use /my spawnplace himself
[01:48] <Derek> I want you to say what happened
[01:48] <Derek> since
[01:48] <Derek> since he "death evaded"
[01:48] <Derek> EVERYTHING that happened
[01:48] <Derek> during the time
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Derek> Xanti
[01:49] <Xanti> death evading multiple times  , mute players and allow others that he likes
[01:49] <Derek> and?
[01:49] <Rhythm> "That happend way before I asked Jeffry if it is allowed to use /gotoplace while capturing/defending. Supernatural, or any other manager told me that it was not allowed that is why I gave him a warning."
[01:49] <Xanti> abuse spawnkill system
[01:49] <Rhythm> lmao
[01:49] <Rhythm> abusing something which is ALLOWED
[01:49] <Rhythm> already sai
[01:49] <Rhythm> d
[01:49] <Xanti> you let yourself get killed 2 times and then move
[01:50] <Rhythm> so what
[01:50] <Xanti> thats just abuse
[01:50] <Derek> Boom pls watch what they say
[01:50] <Rhythm> and that is allowed
[01:50] <Derek> dont be like "OH 3D PRINT TIME LOL"
[01:50] <Xanti> or you think thats fair ?
[01:50] <Derek> :<
01[01:50] <BoomBrush> t_t
[01:50] <Derek> I want the problem to end
[01:50] <Rhythm> It is not
[01:50] <Derek> It's seriously starting to irritate me
01[01:50] <BoomBrush> seems rhythm did something morally wrong but not specifically against the rules
[01:50] <Derek> -_
[01:50] <Derek> ok
[01:50] <Derek> xanti rhy
[01:50] <Rhythm> But if it is allowed, then why can't I do that?
[01:50] <Derek> talk it  out with boom
[01:51] <Rhythm> Answer me
[01:51] <Xanti> the spawnkill system is not here to use
[01:51] <Xanti> to get players warned
[01:51] <Rhythm> then why is it allowed to use /my spawnplace while capturing/defending
[01:52] <Xanti> if you dont understand
[01:52] <Rhythm> I am understanding
[01:52] <Rhythm> you are not ready to explain
[01:52] <Rhythm> If Jeffry thought it is unfair then he should have disabled it
[01:52] <Rhythm> Right?
[01:53] <Xanti> you will spawn just 1 inch from the turf ,
[01:53] <Rhythm> That is not my problem
[01:53] <Xanti> jeffry cant disable all
[01:53] <Rhythm> He can
[01:54] <Xanti> thats why we need human admins
[01:54] <Rhythm> Even if he cannot, then why did he say that it is allowed?
[01:54] <Rhythm> That is why you were kicked from the admin team, Xanti
[01:54] <Xanti> you dont move from your spawnplace in cp so that other players get warning
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[01:55] <Rhythm> How can I move when 3 players are there with hydras
[01:55] <Rhythm> shooting at me
[01:55] <Rhythm> I die before I even spawn
[01:55] <Xanti> 2 times you cant move , 3th time you can ... epic
[01:56] <Xanti> i am gonna have dinner and wait 4 Jeffry\
[01:56] <Rhythm> and I would want myself to get killed
[01:56] <Rhythm> nice
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[01:56] <Derek> a
[01:56] <Derek> a
[01:56] <Derek> a
[01:56] <Derek> a
[01:56] <Derek> stupid irc
01[01:56] <BoomBrush> <Rhythm> How can I move when 3 players are there with hydras
01[01:56] <BoomBrush> <Rhythm> shooting at me
01[01:56] <BoomBrush> <Rhythm> I die before I even spawn
01[01:56] <BoomBrush> <Xanti> 2 times you cant move , 3th time you can ... epic
01[01:56] <BoomBrush> <Xanti> i am gonna have dinner and wait 4 Jeffry\
01[01:56] <BoomBrush> <Rhythm> and I would want myself to get killed
01[01:56] <BoomBrush> <Rhythm> nice
[01:56] <Rhythm> tttttttttt
[01:56] <Derek> Rhy? Xanti?
[01:56] <Derek> Look rhy
[01:56] <Derek> <Derek> Rhy
[01:57] <Derek> <Derek> when you were warning for using /gotoplace in capture
[01:57] <Derek> <Derek> were you aware that it  was allowed?
[01:57] <Rhythm> Supernatural told me that is wasn't allowed
[01:57] <Rhythm> so that is why I gave him a warning
[01:57] <Rhythm> but when I got to know that taxi camping is allowed
[01:57] <Derek> ?
[01:58] <Rhythm> I decided to ask Jeffry if it is allowed to use /my spawnplace while capturing/defending or not
[01:58] <Rhythm> and he said it is allowed
[01:58] <Rhythm> hope that answered your question
[01:58] <Derek> ok
[01:59] <Derek> xanti
[01:59] <Derek> got anything to add
[01:59] <Xanti> use /my spawnplace save in cp and wait until players get warned & jailed is soooo not done
[02:00] <Xanti> not moving 2 times and then move
[02:00] <Rhythm> yep
[02:00] <Rhythm> cause it is FREAKING ALLOWED
[02:00] <Xanti> thats abuse of the system
[02:00] <Rhythm> I do not care if it is abuse or w/e
[02:00] <Rhythm> I will do it unless it is not allowed
[02:00] <Rhythm> But as Infinity said not to do it
[02:00] <Xanti> i wish people in admin team care
[02:00] <Rhythm> so I will not do that
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[02:02] <[SK][STuNNiNG_TiGeR]> ahahha
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[02:02] <Derek> wtf
[02:02] <Derek> nob
[02:02] <Derek> I brought him
[02:02] <Derek> to
[02:02] <Derek> to
[02:02] <Derek> try
[02:02] <Derek> anc
[02:02] <Derek> and
[02:02] <Derek> understand
[02:02] <Derek> WHAT a NOB>
[02:03] <Rhythm> came and laughed
[02:03] <Rhythm> nice
[02:04] <Xanti> you saw mason & luna 's reaction on your behaviour ?
[02:04] <Xanti> that tells me enough
[02:05] <Rhythm> why would I even care about their opininion on me?
[02:05] <Xanti> thats the problem
[02:05] <Xanti> you dont care
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
01[02:05] <BoomBrush> t_t
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
01[02:05] <BoomBrush> wat
[02:05] <Xanti> dont advertise
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Rhythm> I do not care about their opinion
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:05] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:06] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:06] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:06] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:06] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:06] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:06] <Derek> BOOM FFS
[02:06] <Derek> WHAT a NOB>
[02:06] <Derek> WHAT a NOB>
[02:06] <Derek> Just
[02:06] <Derek> try
[02:06] <Derek> and
[02:06] <Derek> talk to them
[02:06] <Derek> pls
[02:06] <Derek> Boom try to solve
[02:06] <Derek> :<
[02:06] <Xanti> stop spamming or i leave
[02:06] <Derek> What I understand is that xanti is kind of over  exaggerating the problem
01[02:06] <BoomBrush> sigh
01[02:07] <BoomBrush> okay
[02:07] <Xanti> player getting banned for less and you use system for your own winning
01[02:08] <BoomBrush> umm
01[02:08] <BoomBrush> ok sooo lemme see if i can sum up what has happened
[02:09] <Xanti> the spawnkill system was made against spawnkillers and not to get players warnings in cp
[02:09] <Xanti> you spawn in the middle of a war zone and think players will not kill you
[02:09] <Xanti> epic
[02:09] <Rhythm> and was I the one who allowed that while capturing?
[02:10] <Xanti> you dont move 2 times , wait for players to get warning and then move
[02:11] <Rhythm> lol\
[02:11] <Rhythm> I move
[02:11] <Rhythm> not my problem when they kill me as soon as I spawn
[02:12] <Xanti> it is your choice to spawn in a warzone
[02:12] <Xanti> and not move
01[02:12] <BoomBrush> oo i see what happened
01[02:12] <BoomBrush> set spawnplace was used to have infinite health as long as rhythm doesnt move
[02:13] <Xanti> no
[02:13] <Rhythm> no
01[02:13] <BoomBrush> that is how you described it in the report
[02:13] <Rhythm> If players kill me then they'll get slapped
01[02:13] <BoomBrush> oh so you are killable
[02:13] <Rhythm> and after 5 slapers they'll get jailed
[02:13] <Rhythm> slaps^
01[02:13] <BoomBrush> okay
[02:13] <Xanti> yes , but he doesnt move and wait for players to get warn
[02:13] <Rhythm> Sure
01[02:13] <BoomBrush> okay okay i get it now
[02:14] <Rhythm> waiting for players to spawn kill
[02:14] <Rhythm> tell me more
01[02:14] <BoomBrush> xanti couldnt you just do the same
[02:14] <Derek> w..w..wot
[02:14] <Xanti> no
01[02:14] <BoomBrush> why not
[02:14] <Xanti> normal vip cant
[02:14] <Rhythm> but other Sks can
01[02:15] <BoomBrush> it seems to me this is a clever use of game mechanics
01[02:15] <BoomBrush> its not unfair because if xanti wants, he could do the exact same thing
[02:15] <Xanti> use or abuse ?
01[02:15] <BoomBrush> the only problem is that its silver vipo
01[02:15] <BoomBrush> but that is the purpose of vip packages: it gives you an advantage over other players
[02:15] <Rhythm> same with VIP Vehicles, no?
01[02:15] <BoomBrush> that is the thank you the server gives you
[02:16] <Xanti> he abuse the spawnkill system
[02:16] <Xanti> tnot moving from his spawn
[02:16] <Rhythm> and you are not moving on
01[02:16] <BoomBrush> xanti, that isnt abuse of the system because its not strictly for only him to use
01[02:16] <BoomBrush> eg i could use it, you could use it, anybody could use it
[02:16] <Rhythm> + it is ALLOWED
01[02:17] <BoomBrush> the only problem is whether you are the right vip to have the command
01[02:17] <BoomBrush> this is to my understand, if i am wrong i appologise
01[02:17] <BoomBrush> this would have to be confirmed by jef ofc, feel free to quote what i say and check
[02:17] <Xanti> you think not moving from your spawn in a warzone , waiting players getting warns is ok
[02:17] <Rhythm> if we are not moving then you can just kill of us at once
[02:18] <Xanti> you think Jeffry made the system for that ?
[02:18] <Rhythm> = captuting fail
[02:18] <Rhythm> and why do you think Jeffry allowed it?
[02:18] <Rhythm> He also knows the drawback of allowing it
[02:18] <Rhythm> and he accepted it
[02:19] <Derek> Luna
[02:19] <Derek> Luna you there
[02:19] <Derek> ..ok
[02:19] <Xanti> i don't think he allowes you to abuse spawnkill system for players getting warned
[02:19] <Rhythm> then why did he allow us to use /my spawnplace?
[02:20] <Rhythm> He made that command
[02:20] <Rhythm> he knows the benefits and drawbacks of that command
[02:20] <Xanti> and you just use it in warzone and not moving
[02:20] <Rhythm> Oh c'mon
[02:20] <Rhythm> you are just repeating
[02:20] <Rhythm> nothing else
[02:20] <Xanti> players shooting others and you just in the middle and not moving
[02:21] <Xanti> players kill you and : TAADAAAA warning
[02:22] <Rhythm> ok so?
[02:22] <Rhythm> You aren't arguing about taxi camping
[02:22] <Rhythm> that is unfair too but allowed
[02:22] <Rhythm> what about that?
[02:23] <Xanti> you dont get false warnings by packy
[02:23] <Rhythm> but you get -3
[02:23] <Rhythm> exp
[02:23] <Rhythm> and you quickly die
[02:24] <Rhythm> Went to taxi => BAM you died
[02:24] <Rhythm> in less than 3 seconds
[02:24] <Rhythm> There are many things which are unfair but allowed
[02:25] <Rhythm> taxi camping and my spawnplace are one of 'em
[02:26] <Xanti> i dont care that you use your spawn place in cp , the problem is that you just wait for other players getting warned by packy becasue you simple not moving
[02:26] <Rhythm> I move
[02:26] <Xanti> if players would wait untill your spawn protection is over , the capture time is already over
[02:26] <Rhythm> not my problem if you do not see me moving
01[02:27] <BoomBrush> i think ive come up with a solution for this `savespawn` thing
[02:27] <Rhythm> spawn protection lasts 4 seconds for Silver V.I.Ps
[02:27] <Xanti> how did i get a warning 15 seconds after you spawned ?
[02:27] <Rhythm> how can the captue get over in 4 seconds?
[02:27] <Xanti> if you dont move , packy will protect you with yellow text
[02:28] <Rhythm> Yea
[02:28] <Rhythm> so?
[02:28] <Xanti> that is almost 2 minutes
[02:28] <Rhythm> and that is not my problem
[02:28] <Rhythm> if it lasts for 2 minutes
[02:28] <Xanti> and thats the abuse of the system
[02:28] <Rhythm> which is allowed
[02:28] <Xanti> i doubt
[02:28] <Rhythm> Everything has a drawback
[02:29] <Rhythm> Why aren't V.I.P vehicles disabled?
01[02:29] <BoomBrush> xanti i would like to propose a solution to you
[02:29] <Rhythm> they kill the player in less than 10 seconds
[02:29] <Rhythm> you did not raise a voice against that
[02:31] <Xanti> boom ?
01[02:31] <BoomBrush> ?
01[02:31] <BoomBrush> oh did u wanna hear my proposal
[02:32] <Xanti> yeah :)
01[02:32] <BoomBrush> how about the action of spawning in gang terriory is forbidden, rhythm is not punished
01[02:32] <BoomBrush> so that this can not be repeated
[02:32] <Rhythm> Infinity alread said that
[02:32] <Rhythm> gotoplace and my spawnplace are not allowed to use while capturing/defending
[02:32] <Xanti> players will not get warned , its a good solution
[02:32] <Rhythm> but the problem is not limited to that
01[02:33] <BoomBrush> well then i would like a reply to it, since both infinity and i have come to the same conflution
[02:33] <Rhythm> dive, teletocoord etc. are allowed
[02:33] <Rhythm> going underwater/places which are hard to reach are also allowed
[02:33] <Xanti> but players dont get warned by packy
[02:33] <Rhythm> So what?
[02:34] <Rhythm> They are unfair too
[02:34] <Xanti> under water and inside buildings aint allowed
[02:34] <Rhythm> Allowed
[02:34] <Xanti> ask supernatural
[02:34] <Rhythm> Said by Jeffry
[02:34] <Xanti> please
[02:34] <Rhythm> Go ask Jeffry if you want to
[02:34] <Rhythm> He said that it is allowedd
[02:34] <Rhythm> allowed^
[02:35] <Xanti> better ask again , ask infinity & somoon
01[02:35] <BoomBrush> xanti, did you read my proposal or am i blind
[02:35] <Xanti> i got warned for that
[02:35] <Xanti> yes
[02:35] <Rhythm> Why should I even explain to them?
[02:35] <Xanti> i think that would solve it
[02:35] <Rhythm> or you better ask Jeffry
[02:36] <Xanti> 18:32	Xanti	players will not get warned , its a good solution
[02:37] <Xanti> spawning in cp and not moving and players have to wait 2 minutes because you dont move is just lame
[02:37] <Rhythm> taxi camping is also lame
[02:37] <Xanti> i agree
[02:37] <Rhythm> OH sure
01[02:40] <BoomBrush> so to confirm my idea
01[02:40] <BoomBrush> or infinity's idea
01[02:40] <BoomBrush> the use of /savemyspawn is forbidden in gang zones
01[02:40] <BoomBrush> well, spawning there during a capture
01[02:41] <BoomBrush> if you try to spawn just outside of the area it will be counted as death evade and the appropiate action will be applied
01[02:41] <BoomBrush> rhythm is not punished
01[02:41] <BoomBrush> does that sound good?
[02:41] <Rhythm> what about dive?
[02:41] <Rhythm> going underwater and other stuffs?
01[02:42] <BoomBrush> ugh idk about that stuff
[02:42] <Rhythm> specially taxi camping
01[02:42] <BoomBrush> unm
01[02:43] <BoomBrush> i dont think i should decide that im not particulally into gang capturing
[02:43] <Rhythm> can you convince Jeffry to disable that
01[02:43] <BoomBrush> how would you disable swimming
01[02:43] <BoomBrush> is that even possible
01[02:43] <BoomBrush> i wonder if there is a IsPlayerSwimming function
[02:43] <Rhythm> w0t
[02:44] <Rhythm> by disable, I mean not allowing to do it
01[02:44] <BoomBrush> oh you mean if it happens just warn ect...
[02:44] <Derek> ??
[02:44] <Derek> too lazy to read all this
[02:45] <Derek> WHAT HAPPENED
01[02:45] <BoomBrush> I ODNT KNOW
01[02:45] <BoomBrush> we came up with a solution
01[02:45] <BoomBrush> spawning in gang zones during a capture is not allowed, the player will spawn as normal instead
01[02:46] <BoomBrush> if you set the spawn to just outside the gang zone its counted as death evade
01[02:46] <BoomBrush> rhythm is not punished
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[03:10] <Derek> Xanti
[03:10] <Derek> Xanti
[03:10] <Derek> Xanti
[03:10] <Derek> <BoomBrush> we came up with a solution
[03:10] <Derek> <BoomBrush> spawning in gang zones during a capture is not allowed, the player will spawn as normal instead
[03:10] <Derek> <BoomBrush> if you set the spawn to just outside the gang zone its counted as death evade
[03:10] <Derek> <BoomBrush> rhythm is not punished
[03:10] <Derek> is this ok
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[03:41] <Xanti> derek
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