<Eszett> pikolo, if you click on https://apollo.rip/bonus.php?action=bprates you will see your bonus point rate
<Soliloquy> Do gifted FL tokens ever expire?
<DirtyBanks> no
<Bifrost> ^
<DirtyBanks> but you might as well use em
<notzed> you can gift FL tokens?
<notzed> smh...
<DirtyBanks> yeah, people who dont need them choosing to give back is a terrible thing...
<notzed> there's other ways to give back.
<DirtyBanks> i assume you also have a problem with ptp allowing you to directly donate bonus points
<notzed> PTP may as well be ratiofree.
<DirtyBanks> and it works for them ;)
<notzed> well, yeah, there's no competition. lol
<oilslump> You can gift tokens with BP. The tokens you have, you're stuck with
<DirtyBanks> most of the people getting a lot of gifted tokens are the heavy uploaders
<notzed> yes, i figured.
<DirtyBanks> so i dont see the issue
<notzed> in my opinion, it makes it way too easy.
<notzed> like, on ptp, i can invite a friend and send them a million points and they can download whatever they want at any time, and they don't even have to contribute
<arrjoo> on pth the admins suck
<arrjoo> terribad site 1/10
<notzed> so the quality of users are likely lower and contribute less.
<DirtyBanks> weird, first time i heard that rewarding uploaders leads to less contribution
<notzed> then again, when you're the only big movie site, you're likely to succeed regardless, because no one else has the same level of content as you.
<notzed> uploaders are rewarded - with upload credit :)
<arrjoo> i wonder if there's a race condition possible with gifting FL tokens
<arrjoo> use one at exactly the same time you gift one
<arrjoo> duplicate ur fl tokens
<notzed> arrjoo: well the FL token system is already kind of buggy
<notzed> stock gazelle is exploitable lol
<lahaugen87> You lose points and give a token. You dont give away a token you own
<notzed> if you have any amount of FL tokens, you can basically get unlimited downloads if you can launch enough http requests
<arrjoo> what if you send two fl download GETs at the same precisely the same time
<notzed> lahaugen87: yes, I know how it works now, thank you. :)
<arrjoo> wow redundant "same"
<lahaugen87> It was not to you, but np
<arrjoo> lahaugen87: was it at me
<arrjoo> are you mansplaining me
<lahaugen87> Dont know what that is. Maybe
<notzed> arrjoo: i don't believe he knows what you're talking about (the bug)
<arrjoo> o
<Eszett> mansplaining used to be known as good old fashioning teaching
<arrjoo> no its when
<lahaugen87> Ah
<arrjoo> men assume the other person is a blithering idiot
<notzed> arrjoo: please don't argue with Eszett they get triggered easily
<arrjoo> oh no
<arrjoo> do i need to use content warnings
<notzed> ya
<lahaugen87> How many personalities do Eszett have?
<arrjoo> Eszett: are you a trigendered pyrofox
<Eszett> why notzed, how kind of you to notice
<arrjoo> are your pronouns xim/xir
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<Eszett> and how wonderful of you to find time
<arrjoo> its ok to be white
<Soliloquy> [TRIGGERED]
<notzed> I haven't been looking for it, but I keep hearing it on RED irc from numerous people. :(
<Eszett> I hear things about you too, notzed
<arrjoo> i hear that red is full of very stable geniuses honestly
<notzed> I hope good things!
<notzed> wait
<Eszett> no, actually
<notzed> did someone complain about me banning them for cheating :(
<strangeways> DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY GENDER
<arrjoo> sorry i identify as an african american
<Eszett> we frown on people bringing their beefs with other trackers here. it's not healthy
* commoner sighs
<notzed> o, but you let them cheat here?
<arrjoo> what
<arrjoo> you let people cheat here
<commoner> I wish everyone would be excellent to each other
<lahaugen87> Im hungry. Got some beef for me?
<notzed> arrjoo: pls launch your ratiomaster/mratio
<arrjoo> im going to leave a bad review about apl on yelp
<notzed> that's not nice
<notzed> i only write nice reviews
<Soliloquy> why not just get along notzed
<Eszett> excuse me, notzed?
<notzed> uhh, you're excused? i dunno what you mean
<arrjoo> Eszett: do you let people cheat on apl
<Eszett> arrjoo, what are you talking about?
<arrjoo> its a question
<Eszett> what do you think the answer is?
<notzed> trick question?
<arrjoo> well idk it sounded like you might have HINTED at it
<Eszett> explain please?
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<notzed> arrjoo: this isn't ipt
<arrjoo> oh
<arrjoo> easy mistake to make
<notzed> :/
<notzed> that's not very kind
<DirtyBanks> zed, if this place isn't to your liking, why not start your own tracker where you can make your own rules?
<arrjoo> brb dying
<notzed> DirtyBanks: I like APL though?
<notzed> I use all sites
<arrjoo> /b 90
<arrjoo> oops
<Eszett> oops indeed
<strangeways> as far as "the torrent hydra" seems like a great idea in theory, practice has shown that it tends to create too many exclusive communities.
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<arrjoo> whats "the torrent hydra"
<strangeways> of course, this wouldn't be an issue if all trackers were public. but that's utopia.
<notzed> exclusive? i mean, it's pretty easy to get into most of the sites.
<notzed> >public
<notzed> lol
<strangeways> arrjoo: if one site goes down, n new sites appear.
<arrjoo> well
<Soliloquy> strangeways, public = utopia. What you smoking?
<notzed> arrjoo: who is 90 and why are you banning them
<strangeways> Soliloquy: public as in ratioless, think suprnova back in the day.
<arrjoo> surely having exlusive invite communities for the elites of a topic
<arrjoo> is good
<notzed> are you a mod here
<arrjoo> notzed: im a mod here
<notzed> nice!
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<strangeways> Soliloquy: and I only smoke cigarettes from time to time.
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<TheGodParticle> Alright. Everyone chill out and get back to friendly chatting. Leave the trackers out of the conversations please.
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<notzed> lol was that necessary
<Eszett> yes
<Soliloquy> yea
<arrjoo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
<DirtyBanks> notzed, any recent albums youve particularly enjoyed?
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<notzed> APL: where mods need to apply +m for 45 seconds to put one line of text out when the chat is already moving slow.
<notzed> DirtyBanks: check my staff recs on RED, i've suggested a few. they are in constant rotation.
<notzed> but i'm more of a singles kind of person
<TheGodParticle> notzed, I'm asking you, respectfully to refrain from comparing trackers.
<notzed> how am i comparing trackers?
<TheGodParticle> Please change thesubject.
<notzed> no.
<notzed> ban me.
<lahaugen87> Badass
* strangeways chills and drinks tea.
<notzed> I know you want to, and don't worry. Go for it.
<notzed> I won't be offended.
<strangeways> yeah, you'll just probably make a sad post on reddit saying how you were unfairly mistreated.
<arrjoo> WHAT
<notzed> lol what
<notzed> I don't post on reddit, i'm tracker staff. that's like shooting myself in the foot.
<adeadcrab> what..
<JaneDigby> wHaT
<adeadcrab> it's all fun and games til TGP shows up
<notzed> indeed.
<strangeways> :-)
<arrjoo> i think its still fun and games
<adeadcrab> isn't it?
<adeadcrab> i thought it was fun
<adeadcrab> in apl IRC
<notzed> ehh
<Soliloquy> oh hey adeadcrab
<strangeways> it is indeed.
<Soliloquy> how you been?
<notzed> too much moderation in my opinion.
<arrjoo> no ball games
<notzed> maybe the unfiltered channel is better? not sure
<JaneDigby> adeadcrab, you're storming up those charts
<adeadcrab> Well hi there Soliloquy...
<adeadcrab> thanks jane
<Soliloquy> Jane you are still on the top 20 thou, no?
<DirtyBanks> jane can i get some clarification on the giveaway?
<adeadcrab> might be afk tonight so I'm setting up a few singles now
<JaneDigby> Just barely!
* strangeways is number 22.
<Soliloquy> oh hey, you are right below me!
<JaneDigby> Sure, DirtyBanks
<strangeways> so close.
<Soliloquy> JaneDigby, I gotta run ahead of you :P
<DirtyBanks> what date are the tokens being given away?  end of the contest or when you pledge?