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  1. KULIAH ONLINE 7
  2. Pemateri: akang engkur (pengguna Linux sejak 1997 dan sysadmin Adelva.com)
  3. Materi: Virtualisasi dan HA (Highly Available) Server
  4. Waktu: 3 Oktober 2013 | 22.00 - 01.00 WIB
  5. Tempat: #ubuntu-indonesia @ freenode
  6. ===========================================================================
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  9. [22:39:05] <engkur> ada yg ngisi kemaren, tadi ?
  10. [22:39:43] <Malsasa> engkur: ada, Kang. Yang sore ini sih, sekadar sharing soal DE dan WM.
  11. [22:39:47] <doraemon> engkur: nggak ada om
  12. [22:39:57] <doraemon> oh ada ya
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  14. [22:42:05] <radenz> mau tanya besok terakhir ya , gak ada jadwal lg soalnya
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  17. [22:44:22] <Gara> test
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  20. [22:46:38] <engkur> ya di lanjut aja yang blon jalan...
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  25. [22:52:40] <arie_kiyoshi> hello all
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  28. [22:53:22] <arie_kiyoshi> sepi
  29. [22:56:05] <esDawet> moso? bekne rame...
  30. [22:56:23] <esDawet> mang rame kayak e..
  31. [22:57:07] <arie_kiyoshi> wah ada orgnya
  32. [22:57:33] <arie_kiyoshi> new_bie nih
  33. [22:57:49] <esDawet> ya ya... semua ngaku nyubi
  34. [22:57:49] <arie_kiyoshi> butuh referensi sharing linux ubuntu
  35. [22:58:05] <arie_kiyoshi> :D
  36. [22:58:08] <engkur> gue nubi
  37. [22:58:13] <esDawet> tanyakan ke mbah nya linux.. si malsasa
  38. [22:58:23] <arie_kiyoshi> oke oke
  39. [22:58:27] <arie_kiyoshi> siap
  40. [22:58:29] <thrvers> om engkur pernah pake qemu? banding vbox gmn om?
  41. [22:58:30] <esDawet> atao dosen engkur
  42. [22:59:01] <Malsasa> Saya baru pakai Linux. Baru belajar.
  43. [22:59:02] -*- esDawet cuma penggembira
  44. [22:59:18] <Malsasa> arie_kiyoshi: apa yang bisa kami bantu? :)
  45. [22:59:25] <engkur> yap gue juga
  46. [22:59:27] <esDawet> Malsasa: iya iya.. semua ngaku baru belajar... baru belajar dari hongkong
  47. [22:59:47] <arie_kiyoshi> butuh referensi server ubuntu
  48. [22:59:52] <arie_kiyoshi> hehee
  49. [23:00:00] <esDawet> aslinya tiap hari mantengin linux sampek ayam goreng aja dikira script
  50. [23:00:05] <engkur> thrvers, qemu asli nya itu lebih lelet dari pada virtualbox, cuma lebih lengkap emulasi hardware nya
  51. [23:00:27] <arie_kiyoshi> emang yg paling cepat apa nih
  52. [23:00:28] <engkur> qemu bisa segala macem procesor
  53. [23:00:42] <arie_kiyoshi> VM ware???
  54. [23:00:42] <Malsasa> arie_kiyoshi: ada PDF Ubuntu Server gratis nih, Kang. Mau?
  55. [23:00:45] <engkur> tapi qemu-kvm lebih cepet dari pada virtualbox
  56. [23:00:50] <arie_kiyoshi> mau
  57. [23:01:08] <thrvers> vmware, gede unduh e :(
  58. [23:01:08] <arie_kiyoshi> link nya
  59. [23:01:15] <Malsasa> arie_kiyoshi: dl2.foss-id.web.id/dokumen/ubuntu/   <<<   ini
  60. [23:01:15] <engkur> cuma kalo pengen gampang pake ya pake virtualbox aja
  61. [23:01:29] <Malsasa> engkur: KVM itu artinya apa, Kang?
  62. [23:01:29] <arie_kiyoshi> siap
  63. [23:01:48] <arie_kiyoshi> makasih ya
  64. [23:01:54] <engkur> di phoronix itu ada compare vmware, kvm, virtualbox
  65. [23:01:55] <Malsasa> Sama-sama.
  66. [23:02:04] <Malsasa> engkur: terima kasih.
  67. [23:02:45] <engkur> KVM = Kernel base virtual machine
  68. [23:02:48] <engkur> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page
  69. [23:03:02] <esDawet> kvm ya semacam virtual
  70. [23:03:17] <engkur> kvm ini lebih enak admin nya, dari pada xen
  71. [23:03:31] -*- Malsasa menyimak sambil TKP!
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  74. [23:03:54] <engkur> kemaren recovery xen guest, error gara gara upgrade kernel 2.6 ke 3.0 di centos 6
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  76. [23:04:07] <engkur> sampe 3 jam
  77. [23:04:15] <arie_kiyoshi> kalau dunia clustering ada comparenya ga mana yg bagus
  78. [23:04:28] <Malsasa> engkur: wah, bisa error gitu pas upgrade ya, Kang?
  79. [23:04:43] <engkur> soal nya emang aneh kalo xen ini, grub nya itu bisa di load dari host nya pake pygrub
  80. [23:05:15] <engkur> kalo xen guest lagi jalan, /boot nya ada vmlinuz di situ
  81. [23:05:18] -*- Malsasa fakir pengalaman virtualisasi
  82. [23:05:48] <arie_kiyoshi> sama hehee
  83. [23:05:57] <engkur> tapi kalo disk xen ini di jadiin slave ke vm yang laen, atau di bikin live-cd, nah /boot ini jadi ilang....
  84. [23:05:58] <Malsasa> engkur: vmlinuz itu mestinya ada di mana, Kang? Apakah itu bagian dari kernel?
  85. [23:06:09] <engkur> gue belon tau lari nya kemana
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  87. [23:06:40] <engkur> kalo kvm, vm guest nya kayak mesin beneran
  88. [23:06:55] <engkur> kayak virtualbox, vmware, jadi lebih mudah
  89. [23:07:03] <engkur> xen ini yang paling ribet
  90. [23:07:28] <engkur> dan lagi kernel host nya enggak mau pake kernel standar, harus install kernel-xen
  91. [23:08:21] <Malsasa> engkur: oh, gitu? Itu karena alasan keamanan atau arsitekturnya gitu dari sono-nya si Xen ini, Kang?
  92. [23:08:22] <esDawet> andai ada distro yg bisa banyak DE atau load distro secara mandiri tanpa virtual machine... yg kalau multi DE bisa kayak si Hy-D-v1. atau mungkin sudah ada?
  93. [23:08:49] <engkur> Malsasa, arsitektur nya sih
  94. [23:09:02] <engkur> xen ini menganut paravirtualisasi
  95. [23:09:02] -*- Malsasa mencatat kuliah akang engkur
  96. [23:09:14] <Malsasa> engkur: ooh, kalau Virtualbox?
  97. [23:09:17] <arie_kiyoshi> kapan nih ada kuliah lagi
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  100. [23:09:30] <arie_kiyoshi> pingin aktif di dunia ubuntu
  101. [23:09:33] <arie_kiyoshi> :D
  102. [23:09:34] <tiktok_> Assalamualaikum..
  103. [23:09:39] <engkur> para artinya, sebagian, sebagian kernel guest, atau device drive nya ngikut pake kernel host
  104. [23:09:41] <esDawet> waalaikumsalam
  105. [23:09:47] <arie_kiyoshi> waalaikumsalam
  106. [23:10:04] <engkur> mangkanya xen lebih ringan dari pada yang fullvirtualisasi, kayak vmware, virtualbox
  107. [23:10:42] <arie_kiyoshi> xen opensource atau bayar
  108. [23:10:47] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
  109. [23:10:49] <Malsasa> arie_kiyoshi:
  110. [23:10:59] <thrvers1> wa'alaikumsalam
  111. [23:11:09] <arie_kiyoshi> uii malsasa
  112. [23:11:28] <engkur> xen ini opensource, tapi di sponsorin oleh citrix
  113. [23:11:29] <AralMelintang> waalaikumsalam
  114. [23:11:39] <engkur> si citrix ini bikin xenserver yang komersial
  115. [23:11:43] <Malsasa> engkur: wah, jadi VirtualBox itu Full Virtualization?
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  117. [23:11:53] <engkur> versi gratis nya yang kompetibel xcp
  118. [23:12:16] <engkur> tapi versi opensource nya ada di hampir semua distro
  119. [23:12:17] <Malsasa> arie_kiyoshi: bisa kok, Kang. Bahkan walau akang tidak menggunakan Linux sekalipun.
  120. [23:12:29] <Malsasa> engkur: wah, asyik ada versi open source.
  121. [23:12:43] <tiktok_> kalo command di android sama kn ya kaya command dasar ubuntu ..
  122. [23:12:50] <engkur> cuma aja kalo admin xen, versi distro linux, vs xenxerver itu beda
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  126. [23:13:18] <engkur> beda command nya, beda admin server nya
  127. [23:13:28] <Malsasa> engkur: diterima, Kang.
  128. [23:13:52] <arie_kiyoshi> setauku kalau bawaan nya citrix konfingnya terlalu panjang ya
  129. [23:14:27] <engkur> admin nya pake xencenter, install di windows, konek ke ip host serer
  130. [23:14:43] <engkur> trus tinggal install guest lewat situ
  131. [23:14:55] <arie_kiyoshi> sama kayak VMware jalan di atas windows ya
  132. [23:14:56] <engkur> mirip juga kayak vmware
  133. [23:15:06] <arie_kiyoshi> owh
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  135. [23:15:33] <engkur> btw vmware ada versi desktop, kayak virtualbox, yang bikin mesin guest nya di desktop
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  137. [23:15:44] <engkur> ada versi server, nama nya esxi
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  141. [23:16:23] <arie_kiyoshi> vmware vsphare
  142. [23:16:25] <engkur> yang versi server, install dulu vmware-client, konek ke host esxi, dan jalanin install guest di server
  143. [23:16:39] <Malsasa> engkur: apakah ada VMWare gratis, Kang? Yang bisa dipasang di Ubuntu kayak VirtualBox gitu?
  144. [23:16:48] <engkur> yap vsphare nama nya kalo udah jadi cloud
  145. [23:16:54] <arie_kiyoshi> enkur udh pernah config ya
  146. [23:17:20] <arie_kiyoshi> engkur*
  147. [23:17:34] <ecoz1> engkur: :-)
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  149. [23:17:37] <engkur> Malsasa, vmware player gratis, vmware esxi, ada demo 60hari, full feature, dan ada lisensi gratis selama nya
  150. [23:17:58] <tiktok_> tapi android itu open source jga kn ??
  151. [23:17:58] <engkur> cuma aja versi gratis enggak bisa di bikin cluster & cloud
  152. [23:18:15] <bocahlinux> assalamualaikum
  153. [23:18:20] <esDawet> waalaikumsalam
  154. [23:18:24] <arie_kiyoshi> waalaikumsalam
  155. [23:18:26] <engkur> arie_kiyoshi, yap gue maintain vmware cluster punya web nya 21
  156. [23:18:37] <noerr> wa'alaikumsalam
  157. [23:18:38] <arie_kiyoshi> wih manthap
  158. [23:19:06] <arie_kiyoshi> harus banyak berguruh nih sama bro engkur
  159. [23:19:13] <arie_kiyoshi> hehee
  160. [23:19:14] <Malsasa> engkur: ooooh, tapi tetap bisa dipakai sebagaimana VirtualBox di desktop kan, Kang?
  161. [23:19:26] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
  162. [23:19:46] <Malsasa> bocahlinux: ini akang linuxer_cilik?
  163. [23:19:49] <arie_kiyoshi> virtual dekstop sama virtual clustering beda setau ku
  164. [23:20:22] <Malsasa> Soalnya saya perlunya cuma virtualisasi biasa di desktop, cobain distro lain :)
  165. [23:20:22] <engkur> mirip, dan sama aja
  166. [23:20:28] <Malsasa> engkur: terima kasih.
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  168. [23:20:39] <engkur> beda nya di itu di server, ini di desktop
  169. [23:20:49] <Malsasa> engkur: oke, Kang.
  170. [23:21:02] <arie_kiyoshi> ok ^_^
  171. [23:21:16] <engkur> di server, host nya enggak butuh resource gede
  172. [23:21:35] -*- Malsasa menyimak
  173. [23:21:37] <engkur> vmware esxi 5.x itu ke install cuma sekitar 200mb
  174. [23:21:52] <arie_kiyoshi> engkur udh pernah konfig server virtualisasi apa aja
  175. [23:21:53] <engkur> kalo jalan cuma perlu cpu 1core, ram 512mb
  176. [23:22:08] <engkur> xencitrix juga segitu
  177. [23:22:13] <engkur> coba virtualbox
  178. [23:22:52] <engkur> host minta 1/2 dari total memory, vm nya dapet 1/2 nya lagi
  179. [23:23:08] <arie_kiyoshi> huwik
  180. [23:23:24] <arie_kiyoshi> lumayan banyak
  181. [23:23:25] <engkur> kalo ram nya super gede semisal 16gb mungkin bisa cuma di kasih 1/4 host nya
  182. [23:23:36] <engkur> tapi tetep terlalu gede buat di bikin server
  183. [23:24:34] <Malsasa> engkur: o, jadi begitu perbandingannya? Imajinasi sendirian tak membantu banyak, rupanya :)
  184. [23:24:39] <arie_kiyoshi> padahal server skrg rata rata suport 786GB
  185. [23:24:40] <engkur> AralMelintang, hampir semua nya... vmware. xen. kvm, virtualbox... yang belon paling hivervisor nya MS, dan paralel nya macosx
  186. [23:24:59] <engkur> karena enggak punya hardware nya aja
  187. [23:25:11] <engkur> arie_kiyoshi, itu udah yang paling mahal
  188. [23:25:38] <arie_kiyoshi> hehee
  189. [23:25:40] <engkur> rata rata server produksi paling 64gb
  190. [23:25:48] <arie_kiyoshi> kapan kapan di bahas dong di sini
  191. [23:25:57] <arie_kiyoshi> belajar config mulai dr awal
  192. [23:25:59] <arie_kiyoshi> hehee
  193. [23:26:01] <ecoz1> nyimak...
  194. [23:26:03] <bocahlinux> ya
  195. [23:26:07] <engkur> server cloud punya google, rackspace, rata rata 128gb sekarang sih
  196. [23:26:35] <engkur> cost/performance nya paling bagus di mainstream
  197. [23:26:39] <Malsasa> arie_kiyoshi: sudah pernah dulu akang engkur memberikan kuliah virtualisasi, VPS, cloud, dan HA.
  198. [23:26:55] <bocahlinux> mau buat apa bang?
  199. [23:27:07] <arie_kiyoshi> waah terlambat deh aku
  200. [23:27:11] <ecoz1> hemm
  201. [23:27:20] <Malsasa> arie_kiyoshi: sudah lama banget :)
  202. [23:27:51] <Malsasa> engkur: wow, itu sekian GB itu ram ya, Kang?
  203. [23:27:56] <arie_kiyoshi> waah rencana kapan ada lagi
  204. [23:27:59] <esDawet> paralel desktop vs vmware on macosX.. berat
  205. [23:28:10] <arie_kiyoshi> heheee
  206. [23:28:15] <arie_kiyoshi> atau yang lainnya
  207. [23:28:29] <arie_kiyoshi> wah benar benar newbie aku di sini
  208. [23:28:32] <arie_kiyoshi> hahaa
  209. [23:28:49] <esDawet> lha.. semua memang ngaku nyubi
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  212. [23:29:04] <engkur> tapi kalo enggak pasang virtualisasi, provider rugi
  213. [23:29:24] <engkur> karena pasang cpu sampe 16core, ram sampe 128gb,
  214. [23:29:35] <ecoz1> nyimak...
  215. [23:29:53] <engkur> jalanin server hosting apache+mysql+php paling mentok 10gb, hdd 100gb
  216. [23:29:58] <engkur> sisa nya ngangur
  217. [23:30:04] <ecoz1> hemm....
  218. [23:30:19] <engkur> mangkanya virtual mesin itu laku, karena efisiensi resource
  219. [23:30:36] <ecoz1> nyimak...
  220. [23:30:36] <arie_kiyoshi> yub
  221. [23:31:03] <Malsasa> Diterima.
  222. [23:31:07] <engkur> jaman dulu sebelum th 2005 kalo bikin server, 1 server 1 os, baru di bikin hosting di situ, bisa masuk ribuan client
  223. [23:31:16] <ecoz1> hemm....
  224. [23:31:19] <arie_kiyoshi> http://www.bhinneka.com/products/sku00013429/hp_proliant_dl380pg8-106.aspx   <== nih server suport memory maximum 768Gb
  225. [23:31:35] <ecoz1> nyimak...
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  227. [23:31:46] <engkur> sekarang 1 serve bisa masukin puluhan virtual mesin, masing masing bisa di isi ribuan client
  228. [23:32:00] <arie_kiyoshi> nah kalau ane mau bikin server hosting gimana ya caranya
  229. [23:32:18] <ecoz1> hemm....
  230. [23:32:56] <engkur> server btw paling gede udah support 1tb
  231. [23:33:30] <arie_kiyoshi> itu spek minimal ya
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  233. [23:37:14] -*- Malsasa menyimak
  234. [23:37:22] <arie_kiyoshi> @@
  235. [23:37:38] <arie_kiyoshi> d lanjut besok aja broo
  236. [23:38:02] <arie_kiyoshi> hehehee
  237. [23:38:25] <ecoz1> >:o
  238. [23:38:28] <engkur> itu spek maksimal
  239. [23:38:31] <esDawet> besok ngaku nyubie lagi yaa... oke
  240. [23:38:51] <engkur> btw, dan lagi, di dunia virtual mesin
  241. [23:39:20] <engkur> mesin guest, atau vm, itu bisa pindah tanpa down, dari satu mesin host, ke mesin lain
  242. [23:39:21] <hananan|nyimak> thrvers:
  243. [23:39:35] <arie_kiyoshi> es dawet: yoi sob, hehee
  244. [23:39:51] <engkur> jika mesin host itu bermasalah, misalnya hdd nya mati, lan nya diskonek, power down
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  246. [23:40:36] <arie_kiyoshi> resource akan pindah ke hardware yg masih on
  247. [23:40:38] <Malsasa> engkur: luar biasa.
  248. [23:41:09] <thrvers> hananan|nyimak: yoi
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  250. [23:41:41] <arie_kiyoshi> aku sedikit paham teori, tapi blm pernah konfigur sama sekali , :(
  251. [23:42:02] <ecoz1> skali2 adakan workshop gitu lho
  252. [23:42:24] <engkur> iya... itu live migration
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  254. [23:42:42] <Malsasa> engkur: bagaimana bisa begitu, Kang?
  255. [23:42:45] <engkur> sekarang banyak di terapkan pada system HA high availability
  256. [23:43:15] <hananan|nyimak> thrvers: wew, sek nyimak to om
  257. [23:43:47] <engkur> iya bisa,
  258. [23:44:01] <arie_kiyoshi> <ecoz1> skali2 adakan workshop gitu lho <== setujuu bgt
  259. [23:44:08] -*- Malsasa kuliah HA :)
  260. [23:44:22] <engkur> kalo yang skala kecil, bisa pake 2 server, disk nya di bikin mirror, pake drbd
  261. [23:44:30] <ecoz1> 8-)
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  264. [23:44:59] <engkur> dua dua nya pasang software monitoring, yang ngedetek temen nya
  265. [23:45:45] <engkur> jadi kalo tiba tiba temen nya bermasalah, entar sakit, cuti, bolos, males, harus bisa gantiin kerjaan nya
  266. [23:46:04] <engkur> apalagi tiba tiba kabur...gimana tuh
  267. [23:46:33] <arie_kiyoshi> menyik....
  268. [23:46:42] <Malsasa> :D
  269. [23:46:43] <esDawet> :D
  270. [23:46:45] <arie_kiyoshi> menyimak*
  271. [23:46:45] <engkur> yang bagus itu ada 3 server, dan 2 storage
  272. [23:46:46] <esDawet> menyik..
  273. [23:47:08] <arie_kiyoshi> idealnya ya
  274. [23:47:20] <engkur> 1 management, 2 switch
  275. [23:47:28] <engkur> 2 uplink internet
  276. [23:48:05] <engkur> jadi system HA ini bisa mahal, sampai extrime malah
  277. [23:48:10] <engkur> jadi system HA ini bisa mahal, sampai extrime mahal
  278. [23:48:46] <arie_kiyoshi> mahal di hardware atau di lisensi nya
  279. [23:49:02] <engkur> karena kita cuma pake 1 server, dari 2 server yang tersedia, ke 1 jalan, ke 2 ngangur, nungguin si ke 1 jeblok
  280. [23:49:09] <ecoz1> opo kuwi
  281. [23:49:32] <engkur> arie_kiyoshi, hardware juga, karena kita beli 2x
  282. [23:50:22] <engkur> lisensi... tergantung software nya, vmware = 3000 USD, xencitrix 1000USD, belon lagi biaya instalasi & maintenance
  283. [23:50:27] <esDawet> ecoz1: biasa... omongan khas nyubie
  284. [23:50:50] <esDawet> yg gak nyubie ancen bingung dewe
  285. [23:50:56] <esDawet> :D
  286. [23:51:02] <engkur> yang gratisan, boleh pake centos, proxmox, sles, kalo mau build sendiri
  287. [23:51:14] <ecoz1> esDawet: sumpah, aq ndak mudeng... :-D #pura2x
  288. [23:51:18] <engkur> kalo mau bayar developer, ya bayar lagi lah
  289. [23:52:22] <arie_kiyoshi> ok ok
  290. [23:52:35] <arie_kiyoshi> bang engkur
  291. [23:52:49] <ecoz1> esDawet: malem2x gini ada penjual es dawet kagak? jd pengen stlh liat nick'mu :-D
  292. [23:52:54] <Malsasa> vmware = 3000 USD    <<<    wus
  293. [23:52:57] <arie_kiyoshi> aku tadi coba intip link jadwal kuliah online
  294. [23:53:01] <arie_kiyoshi>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 JADWAL KULIAH ONLINE #ubuntu-indonesia ======================================  Insya Allah  engkur: btw seminggu ini kita bahas linux full, tiap hari jam 8-11 malem 30/9/13 : linux command dasar, paket manager, install, uninstall program, troubleshooting, recovery system 1/10/13 : linux service, network service, troubleshooting, ip address... 2/10/13 : setup dns server, command dig,
  295. [23:53:23] <arie_kiyoshi> engkur: btw seminggu ini kita bahas linux full, tiap hari jam 8-11 malem 30/9/13 : linux command dasar, paket manager, install, uninstall program, troubleshooting, recovery system 1/10/13 : linux service, network service, troubleshooting, ip address... 2/10/13 : setup dns server, command dig, nslookup, & troubleshooting 3/10/13 : setup web server, apache web server, php, mysql, setup virtualhost, setup cms joomla, drup
  296. [23:53:24] <engkur> yap molor jadwal nya
  297. [23:53:34] <AralMelintang> nambahin boleh ngak soal HA ????
  298. [23:53:35] <arie_kiyoshi> sip
  299. [23:53:38] <AralMelintang> model dari High Availability itu gak selalu aktif passif, bisa juga aktif2x dimana semua mesin secara serentak bertugas
  300. [23:53:41] <Malsasa> Kalau tidak ada kepentingan, sebaiknya tidak perlu kopi paste sebanyak itu.
  301. [23:53:48] <arie_kiyoshi> besok ya di fokuskan
  302. [23:54:00] <esDawet> ecoz1:  mbuh... palingan sing nongol malah tukang tahu tek
  303. [23:54:00] <arie_kiyoshi> ane pingin benar benar belajar nih
  304. [23:54:03] <engkur> soal nya... gue ada keperluan mau akad kridit rumah, jadi nya bolak balik ke cibubur
  305. [23:54:04] <arie_kiyoshi> fokus ama materinya
  306. [23:54:07] <engkur> pulang malem terus
  307. [23:54:15] <arie_kiyoshi> ok ok siap
  308. [23:54:18] <Malsasa> engkur: kami memaklumi, Kang.
  309. [23:54:33] <ecoz1> esDawet: pengeeeeeennnnn :-( es dawet
  310. [23:55:00] <ecoz1> engkur: akang domisili mana se kang ?
  311. [23:55:02] <arie_kiyoshi> <+Malsasa> Kalau tidak ada kepentingan, sebaiknya tidak perlu kopi paste sebanyak itu.  <== maap kang malsasa hehee
  312. [23:55:09] <AralMelintang> *duduk kembali
  313. [23:55:14] <engkur> AralMelintang, emang itu active-active coba liat di clusterlabs.org bagian documentaion nya
  314. [23:55:17] <engkur> ada deh
  315. [23:55:26] <engkur> cuma implementasi nya lebih sulit
  316. [23:56:01] <engkur> 1 filesystem nya harus support clustering, artinya 2 host akses ke data yang sama
  317. [23:56:02] <ecoz1> engkur: barusan tak googling ttg profil akang... :-P #penasaran dgn akang
  318. [23:56:23] <engkur> kalo filesystem biasa kayak ext4 enggak bisa di pake
  319. [23:56:37] <Malsasa> engkur: http://bebas.vlsm.org   <<<   tulisan beliau ada di sini
  320. [23:56:48] <Malsasa> ecoz1: http://bebas.vlsm.org   <<<   tulisan beliau ada di sini
  321. [23:56:48] <arie_kiyoshi> ok
  322. [23:56:49] <engkur> karena 1 filesystem enggak akan bisa di buka barengan di dua host
  323. [23:56:55] <Malsasa> engkur: maf, salah mention, Kang.
  324. [23:57:20] <ecoz1> Malsasa: he'em2x #sambil kriyip2x liat monitor + pengen esDawet
  325. [23:57:29] <engkur> 2 perlu load balance, yang bertugas membagi beban kerja ke dua atau lebih server itu
  326. [23:57:56] <engkur> 3, perlu database yang juga support cluster, bisa di tulis bareng di banyak host
  327. [23:57:58] <arie_kiyoshi> ok ok lanjut kang
  328. [23:58:05] <AralMelintang> iya om engkur, saya mengomentari yang diatas bilang  "karena kita cuma pake 1 server, dari 2 server yang tersedia, ke 1 jalan, ke 2 ngangur, nungguin si ke 1 jeblok"
  329. [23:58:12] <esDawet> walah.. koyok di pantengin karo wong sing lagi ngidam wae
  330. [23:58:13] <esDawet> :D
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  333. [23:58:46] <engkur> iya itu aktif-pasif peling banyak bikin kayak begitu
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  335. [23:58:58] <abe1> assalamu alaikum
  336. [23:59:01] <abe1> :D
  337. [23:59:04] <arie_kiyoshi> waalaikumsalam
  338. [23:59:05] <esDawet> waalaikumsalam
  339. [23:59:12] <bakso_esDawet> abe1: waskum,
  340. [23:59:21] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
  341. [23:59:27] <arie_kiyoshi> secara konsepnya clustering bgtu
  342. [23:59:34] <thrvers> wa'alaikumsalam
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  344. [23:59:52] <AralMelintang> waalaikumsalam
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  346. [00:00:06] <noerr> wa'alaikumsalam
  347. [00:00:22] <thrvers> mitnit
  348. [00:00:49] <arie_kiyoshi> tapi kalau ga nyoba binngung juga
  349. [00:00:52] <arie_kiyoshi> hehee
  350. [00:01:20] <engkur> http://clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1-pcs/html/Clusters_from_Scratch/_types_of_pacemaker_clusters.html
  351. [00:01:27] <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: makane itu, aq dari tadi pusing memahami...
  352. [00:02:20] <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: *punya ide, ada materi, kegunaan, penerapan... makin mantep ni kuliah
  353. [00:02:30] <engkur> ide nya... cluster ha itu, jangan sampe service nya mati karena hardware nya bermasalah
  354. [00:02:35] <arie_kiyoshi> pengen_esDawet  <== sabar broo pelan pelan di pahamii nya, hehee
  355. [00:03:08] <engkur> service tetep jalan walupun hardware nya jeblug, listrik mati,
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  357. [00:03:25] <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: ente pny materi yg lebih simple ndak ? ehehehe *ndak_paham*
  358. [00:03:32] <engkur> lebih extrim lagi lokasi nya kena kerusuhan, bencana, kena bom
  359. [00:03:52] <engkur> service bisa aja pindahin ke lokasi lain, negara lain
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  361. [00:03:57] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: kena tsunami
  362. [00:03:58] <Malsasa> Wow, bom? Bisa bertahan itu, Kang?
  363. [00:04:02] <engkur> atau planet lain...
  364. [00:04:05] <Malsasa> :D
  365. [00:04:12] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: kena gempa
  366. [00:04:19] <esDawet> Malsasa: bisa aja..
  367. [00:04:20] <arie_kiyoshi> mang engkur ok sip, mulai paham
  368. [00:04:28] <engkur> yap, ada yang bikin disaster recovery,
  369. [00:04:38] <esDawet> tuh servernya wikileaks.. kabarnya di gua
  370. [00:04:40] <arie_kiyoshi> <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: ente pny materi yg lebih simple ndak ? ehehehe *ndak_paham* <== menyimak mang engkur aja dulu
  371. [00:04:45] <arie_kiyoshi> hehee
  372. [00:04:45] <engkur> server kelas paus, bukan kakap lagi
  373. [00:05:07] <Malsasa> :D
  374. [00:05:18] <engkur> kayak google, yahoo, facebook, udah punya banyak server di banyak negara
  375. [00:05:37] <arie_kiyoshi> secara gak langsung penempatan server berbeda dan jauh sama dengan membuat disaster recovery
  376. [00:05:43] <engkur> salah satu negara kena bom ya gak masalah, pindahin aja service nya ke tempat laen
  377. [00:05:48] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: sing penting PLN'ne urip terus kang :-D
  378. [00:06:22] <engkur> nah itu juga sih, google mikir bikin data center sendiri di indonesia
  379. [00:06:40] <engkur> listrik nya mahal, dan jebluk mulu
  380. [00:06:52] <arie_kiyoshi> wkwkwkkk
  381. [00:07:08] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: wkwkwkwk :-D pake diesel/genset aje :-D
  382. [00:07:11] <engkur> datacenter kan pemakan listrik terbesar
  383. [00:07:27] <engkur> 1 server rata rata 500w lagi opeasional
  384. [00:07:29] <arie_kiyoshi> oyii
  385. [00:07:43] <arie_kiyoshi> di kali berapa tuh
  386. [00:07:50] <arie_kiyoshi> kalau ada 100 server
  387. [00:07:55] <engkur> 1 rak, penuh 20 server perlu 10000w = 10kw
  388. [00:08:17] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: belum lagi overheat... pendinginnya harus stabil mendinginkan mesin, tp gak sampe beku :-D #kyak udara semilir di pantai :-D
  389. [00:08:28] <engkur> satu data center selapangan bola bisa jadi punya ratusan rak, punya ribuan server
  390. [00:08:35] <engkur> perlu jutaan watt
  391. [00:08:42] <arie_kiyoshi> yub
  392. [00:09:02] <engkur> yap, listrik buat ac juga gede, selain buat daya server
  393. [00:09:37] <arie_kiyoshi> pakai solarcell cuman hidupin lampu ruangan data center , hahahaa
  394. [00:09:50] <engkur> itu biaya datacenter, enggak cuma di hardware aja mahalnya, di listrik juga
  395. [00:10:04] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: imposible dah kalo server google ditaruh di Indonesia sebanyak itu...
  396. [00:10:14] <engkur> bisa jadi biaya bayar listrik setahun bisa buat beli hardware nya
  397. [00:10:31] <arie_kiyoshi> hahaa
  398. [00:10:54] <engkur> coba search, rata rata datacenter, seukuran lapangan bola, di bikin deket PLTU
  399. [00:11:16] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: dikampusQ ae kang, biaya listrik per-bulan sampek 1 M :-D
  400. [00:11:18] <arie_kiyoshi> bukan PLTN ya
  401. [00:11:40] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: apalagi datacenter :-D wkwkwkw...
  402. [00:11:42] <engkur> bisa juga PLTN, kalo nuklir nya aman aman aja sih
  403. [00:11:56] <pengen_esDawet> engkur: PLTN dilarang disini :-D
  404. [00:12:15] <engkur> enggak di sabot kabel & besi tower nya sama madura
  405. [00:12:23] <arie_kiyoshi> PLTN cocok nya di kalimantan, jarang gempa soalnya
  406. [00:13:00] <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: kayak'e akan timbul mslh sm penduduk sana :-D
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  408. [00:13:25] <arie_kiyoshi> masalah apaan tuh
  409. [00:13:31] <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: belum lagi soal perizinan :-D
  410. [00:13:46] <arie_kiyoshi> di luar jawa listrik sering pemadaman bergilir
  411. [00:13:48] <Malsasa> PLTN bawah laut, gimana? (:
  412. [00:14:17] <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: masalah izin kang, bakal ada kontroversi. Nuklir dampak'e sesuatu bin banget
  413. [00:14:50] <pengen_esDawet> arie_kiyoshi: kita kan cenderung takut utk buat PLTN gara2x sdh mikir dampaknya dulu
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  421. [00:18:44] <arie_kiyoshi> tau bangettt
  422. [00:18:49] <arie_kiyoshi> hahaa
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  425. [00:19:00] <engkur> yang harus nya semen 10 sak, cuma dapet 6 sak, sisa nya di jual tukang
  426. [00:19:05] <arie_kiyoshi> yg serbah salah pemborongnya
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  428. [00:19:26] <arie_kiyoshi> kerjaan blm selesai udh di minta minta user dan panitia
  429. [00:19:29] <arie_kiyoshi> wkwkwk
  430. [00:19:54] <arie_kiyoshi> jalan satu satunya ya di kurangi materialnya
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  433. [00:22:15] <Rendi_7936> Ping !
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  438. [00:25:43] <esDawet> wis?
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  440. [00:28:33] <engkur> ah udah deh yang enteng eja berarti ngobrol nya
  441. [00:28:55] <pengen_esDawet> barusan minum obat ultraflu, awak gregres... panas sambil minum susu... :-( uhuk
  442. [00:29:53] <-> pengen_esDawet is now known as ecoz_skt_panas
  443. [00:31:15] <ecoz_skt_panas> sdh bubug smua nih ?
  444. [00:32:51] <Se7enTime> ada saya :)
  445. [00:33:02] -*- noerr bangun tidur
  446. [00:33:03] <Malsasa> engkur: oke, Kang.
  447. [00:33:06] <Malsasa> engkur: tanya, Kang.
  448. [00:33:14] <engkur> yap
  449. [00:33:21] <ecoz_skt_panas> Se7enTime: alhamdulillah kalo ada
  450. [00:33:28] <engkur> masih blon bisa tidue nih
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  452. [00:33:41] <Malsasa> engkur: saya ada proyek kode sumber ini. Nah, udah ada branch master di repo Git saya. Ini repo lokal.
  453. [00:34:05] <Malsasa> engkur: lalu saya buat branch baru bernama coba. Saya ubah beberapa baris di dalam branch ini.
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  455. [00:35:27] <Malsasa> engkur: nah, saya ingin menerapkan perubahan dalam branch baru ini ke dalam branch master saya. Saya coba perintah push, pull, fetch di kedua branch. Branch master kodenya tetap.
  456. [00:35:28] <engkur> trus
  457. [00:35:45] <engkur> ya emang begitu,
  458. [00:35:46] <Malsasa> engkur: nah, bagaimana melakukan "merge" ke branch master?
  459. [00:35:54] -*- Malsasa menyimak
  460. [00:36:05] <engkur> kalo mau gabung dari branch ke master pake merge
  461. [00:36:15] <Malsasa> engkur: git merge begitu, Kang?
  462. [00:36:16] <engkur> merge-branch
  463. [00:36:24] <engkur> cuma lupa detil nya
  464. [00:36:32] <Malsasa> Oalah, jadi ada perintahnya sendiri?
  465. [00:36:51] <engkur> gue gak pake git sehari hari jadi gak apal gitu, gue pelajari kemaren buat develop git server
  466. [00:36:54] <engkur> buat programmer
  467. [00:36:58] <Malsasa> Terima kasih, Kang. Yang gelap jadi terang sekarang.
  468. [00:37:17] <ecoz_skt_panas> Malsasa: saya jadi redup2x :-D
  469. [00:37:22] <Malsasa> engkur: enggak apa-apa, saya cari sendiri. Ini soalnya Git yang saya pakai terintegrasi sama Qt Creator.
  470. [00:37:45] <Malsasa> engkur: kagak ada merge di menu-nya. Tapi masih ada bash :D
  471. [00:38:07] <noerr> ecoz_skt_panas: saya mulai puyeng
  472. [00:38:33] <ecoz_skt_panas> noerr: aq nyut2x, tas ae tak ombeni ultraflu
  473. [00:39:21] <noerr> ecoz_skt_panas: aku ngombe ultramilk
  474. [00:39:38] <ecoz_skt_panas> noerr: wes mulai kriyip2x
  475. [00:39:39] <Malsasa> Ultramilk :)
  476. [00:39:55] <Malsasa> noerr: suka development, Kang?
  477. [00:40:19] <ecoz_skt_panas> Malsasa: develop opo'e kang ?
  478. [00:40:34] <noerr> pengembangan ?
  479. [00:40:52] <Malsasa> ecoz_skt_panas: apa saja. Bisa OS, bisa aplikasi, atau sekadar menerjemahkan .po.
  480. [00:40:55] <Malsasa> noerr: inggih.
  481. [00:41:18] <noerr> minat, cuman ilmunya belum nyampe :)
  482. [00:41:33] <ecoz_skt_panas> Malsasa: keren
  483. [00:41:49] <engkur> noerr, ilmu itu enggak usah di tunggu sampe jago, keluar jengger merah nya
  484. [00:42:04] <engkur> cukup yang udah tau, di pake, begitu terus
  485. [00:42:09] <Malsasa> noerr: wah, sama-sama belajar development yok, Kang. Ada yang mudah, kok.
  486. [00:42:20] <ecoz_skt_panas> engkur: ayam jago jgn di adu, kalo di adu jengger'nya meraaah  :-)
  487. [00:42:21] <engkur> kayak gelindingin bola salju
  488. [00:42:26] <Malsasa> noerr: kagak semuanya kudu mrogram sampai gundul :)
  489. [00:42:29] <noerr> engkur: iya, siap pak guru :)
  490. [00:42:49] <engkur> jangan tunggu gede dulu baru jalan, tapi dari kecil di ajak jalan, makin lama makin gede
  491. [00:42:50] <noerr> Malsasa: yang kayak gimana kang?
  492. [00:43:24] <ecoz_skt_panas> noerr: yg penting "NIAT"
  493. [00:43:27] <Malsasa> noerr: nah, itu kita ikut apa yang dinasihatkan akang engkur.
  494. [00:43:28] -*- noerr introspeksi
  495. [00:43:35] <Malsasa> noerr: misalnya ini nih:
  496. [00:44:07] <noerr> kan saya tadi bilangnya belum nyampe, jadi suatu saat pasti nyampe :)
  497. [00:44:08] <Malsasa> noerr: https://translations.launchpad.net/shutter/trunk/+lang/id   <<<   saya lihat kemarin terjemahan akang udah diterima di wiki Ubuntu-ID
  498. [00:44:08] <ecoz_skt_panas> susuQ coklat entek rek, :-/
  499. [00:44:24] <Malsasa> noerr: keren tuh, Kang!
  500. [00:44:43] <engkur> btw pernah baca manual mysql
  501. [00:44:57] <ecoz_skt_panas> engkur: pernah
  502. [00:44:57] <engkur> atau buku c++
  503. [00:45:12] <engkur> manual mysql kalo di print sekitar 3000 halaman
  504. [00:45:15] <ecoz_skt_panas> engkur: pernah, dulu smster 1
  505. [00:45:15] <arie_kiyoshi> pernah
  506. [00:45:27] <engkur> c++ 1500 halaman kayak nya
  507. [00:45:38] <ecoz_skt_panas> engkur: buku'ne melebihi tebalnya kitab suci :-D
  508. [00:45:39] <noerr> Malsasa: aplikasi bikin sendiri itu kang?
  509. [00:45:44] <engkur> tapi apa yang gue pake sehari hari buat mysql ?
  510. [00:45:52] <ecoz_skt_panas> engkur: penerbitnya "Andi Publisher" :-D
  511. [00:46:05] <engkur> cuma sekitar 5 command gue apal
  512. [00:46:12] <engkur> mysql -u root -p
  513. [00:46:27] <noerr> engkur: o_0
  514. [00:46:41] <engkur> mysqldump -d database >dump.sql
  515. [00:46:50] <engkur> create database;
  516. [00:47:10] <noerr> Malsasa: baru nerjemahin sedikit kang :)
  517. [00:47:21] <engkur> selebih nya... kalo gue perlu gue cari itu command, kalo enggak ya... enggak usah di baca dulu
  518. [00:47:51] <engkur> itu mysql emang bukan main job gue... jadi seperlu nya aja tau
  519. [00:48:11] <ecoz_skt_panas> engkur: terus main job'nya akang apa lho skr ?
  520. [00:48:13] <engkur> kalo mainjob, perlu tau global picture nya dulu, detil nya belakangan bisa di cari
  521. [00:48:15] <Malsasa> engkur: terima kasih, Kang. baru tahu setebal itu manualnya.
  522. [00:48:26] <engkur> gue sysadmin...
  523. [00:48:49] <Malsasa> noerr: itu Shutter, aplikasi skrinsot paling lengkap di Linux. Setidaknya sekarang.
  524. [00:49:09] <ecoz_skt_panas> engkur: diperusahaan apa kang?
  525. [00:50:19] <-> ecoz_skt_panas is now known as ecoz_mau_tdr
  526. [00:50:27] <engkur> gue di adelva
  527. [00:50:30] <engkur> hosting
  528. [00:51:00] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: :-)
  529. [00:51:16] <noerr> Malsasa: oh nggak baca, translation :)
  530. [00:51:58] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: kalo kerja, ente mulai jam berapa sampai jam brp kang ? #buat pengalaman kita2x yg masih nuwbie
  531. [00:52:19] <Malsasa> noerr: ho-oh, Launchpad Translations itu enak banget buat belajar development, Kang. Kalau orang kayak saya, ya nerjemah dulu.
  532. [00:52:56] <engkur> ah biasa aja...
  533. [00:53:26] <engkur> jam 8-9 sampe jam 6-8
  534. [00:53:45] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: tiap hari tuh ???
  535. [00:54:04] <engkur> kadang sampe jam 10-12 kalo ada kerjaan, troubleshooting, atau apalah
  536. [00:54:28] <engkur> kadang tengah malem...
  537. [00:54:30] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: tp kerjanya nyantai kan kang,,, duduk manis,,, liat monitor... diruang ber-AC :-)
  538. [00:54:49] <engkur> hmmm soal santai, itu di atur sendiri
  539. [00:56:07] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: gajinya gedhe ya... :-/ #pasti
  540. [00:56:13] <ecoz_mau_tdr> PT Adelva Solusindo
  541. [00:57:08] <engkur> biasa aja... kok
  542. [00:57:18] <-- gingerbread20 (~chatzilla@203.130.224.6) has left #ubuntu-indonesia
  543. [00:58:31] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: apa yg memotivasi akang mmberi kul online di forum ini, kbnyakan mereka yg sdh kerja ndak mau bagi2 ilmu
  544. [00:59:54] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: malah mereka fokus dgn istri dan anak...
  545. [01:00:38] <noerr> Malsasa: pengen nyoba nih :d
  546. [01:00:42] <engkur> hmm gini... ilmu itu makin berkah kalo di ajarin, makin berkembang
  547. [01:00:46] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: jalan2x, liburan, belanja dan kyak'e nggak bgitu peduli dgn forum kek gini...
  548. [01:00:58] <noerr> engkur: beul
  549. [01:01:03] <engkur> kalo ilmu di umpetin sendiri makin pusing kepala nya
  550. [01:01:04] <Malsasa> noerr: siip
  551. [01:01:08] <noerr> betul maksudnya
  552. [01:01:14] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: meskipun sdh ada dalil, sdikit org yg mau mengamalkan
  553. [01:01:37] <Malsasa> engkur: terima kasih, Kang.
  554. [01:02:03] <engkur> efek nya enggak ke peserta aja, ke pemateri juga bisa jauh lebih baik lagi penguasaan nya
  555. [01:02:20] <Malsasa> engkur: sudah berhasil ini dengan perintah git merge master coba-ubah-proyek
  556. [01:03:00] <engkur> udah gue mau tidur...
  557. [01:03:04] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: sya baru menemui sosok yg mau berbagi dgn susah payah ketik-mengetik demi menemani kita2x dsini
  558. [01:03:18] <ecoz_mau_tdr> engkur: sama kang, saya juga
  559. [01:03:33] <-- engkur (~engkur@114.79.13.254) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  560. [01:04:06] <ecoz_mau_tdr> sesuatu banget ya kang engkur, dy bsok pagi harus kerja lho :-O
  561. [01:04:07] --> doragon (~Cendelo@27.50.18.178) has joined #ubuntu-indonesia
  562. [01:04:31] <noerr> salut saya
  563. [01:05:16] <ecoz_mau_tdr> sulit cari orang sperti kang engkur
  564. [01:05:31] <noerr> saya juga out dulu, mari om ecoz_mau_tdr kang Malsasa
  565. [01:05:39] <Malsasa> noerr: silakan
  566. [01:05:59] <noerr> Assalamualaikum :)
  567. [01:06:07] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
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