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- raven - Today at 3:56 AM
- let me tell you a story of pre-release FE10 bullshit
- NotJim - Today at 3:56 AM
- +10 HP
- raven - Today at 3:56 AM
- because like
- this is probably what mycen did
- basically the pre-release rumors
- were spreading like wildfire
- one of them was really interesting
- NotJim - Today at 3:57 AM
- what were they
- raven - Today at 3:57 AM
- and sounded plausible
- Dotty - Today at 3:57 AM
- i'm already bored
- raven - Today at 3:57 AM
- it's the main one i heard
- fuck you
- this is cool
- or it wouldve been
- Dotty - Today at 3:57 AM
- hahaha
- raven - Today at 3:57 AM
- basiclaly ike and zelgius were half-siblings
- and sons of ashnard
- and greil took ike shortly after ike was born
- because he saw ashnard go crazy
- NotJim - Today at 3:58 AM
- what
- lemonbot1
- raven - Today at 3:58 AM
- and that's the real reason he left the four riders
- NotJim - Today at 3:58 AM
- ok but whats anothert
- raven - Today at 3:58 AM
- the others are currently lost to time because the FESS archives are down
- thats the one i remember the most
- theyve been downf or like 9 years mind you
- but that's probably hwat mycen did with alm
- Dotty - Today at 3:59 AM
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- raven - Today at 3:59 AM
- though this is still post-ike leaks
- where ike starts to look quite a bit like greil
- so i guess we should've thought more critically and went "well this is dumb"
- but it's also like around the time they leaked zelgius too
- so i guess maybe the theory was just founded on some shit
- not theory
- the leak
- raven - Today at 4:00 AM
- "leak"
- rumor
- i'm willing to bet something got lost in translation too
- about micaiah being the apostle
- but somehow they mied ike and zelgius in there too?
- woulda made FE10 a lot more interesting if something liek that were true though
- still only the third most disappointing game in the series plotwise
- the blood pact shit is seriously hte dumbest idea IS has ever come up with
- and they came up with witches
- Dotty - Today at 4:02 AM
- hahaha
- It wasn't very smart
- raven - Today at 4:02 AM
- it was dumb
- i mean okay whatever
- micaiah's actions are morally ambiguous
- come upw iths ome shit to make it not ambiguous anymore
- even though it's stupid
- WHATEVER
- but then you do some shit to ashnard
- and involve him in all this
- and you do it to naesala
- and involve him in that
- you crossed some lines there
- naesala was intriguing because he was a self serving dipshit that went between trying to make his kingdom not so shitty but also not completely selling out his friends in the process
- but overally a morally dubious character
- ashnard was the personification of his philosophy
- and then its like
- "the blood pact made me do all those things"
- "the blood pact is how i killed my family"
- that's crossing lines
- Dotty - Today at 4:04 AM
- yeah eesh
- raven - Today at 4:04 AM
- that's so frustrating for me
- i mean he sold out his friends a lot
- but he did it in the end for his kingdom
- he was a shitbag about how he did it
- but he had a clear purpose
- and ashnard slayed his whole family so he could prove himself hte most powerful and therefore the most fit to rule
- and had no qualms with someone killing him to take the throne
- because then he still wins if they rule like he did
- Dotty - Today at 4:05 AM
- Yeah
- raven - Today at 4:05 AM
- because he's not a hypocrite
- but nope blood pact killed em
- if they left that alone
- then radiant dawn wouldn't be as annoying
- but ALAS
- and the blood pact being micaiah's justification was just so stupid
- Dotty - Today at 4:07 AM
- Yeah, she had a lot more potential to be explored
- and what they did with her in the game was already really interesting alone
- raven - Today at 4:07 AM
- they could've easily just handwaved it with "begnion gave us supplies to rebuild, and we decided to aid them"
- Dotty - Today at 4:07 AM
- ie. being deliberately set up as daein's "ike"
- raven - Today at 4:07 AM
- and they could've like
- thrown her name around as some sort of goddess of revolution
- Dotty - Today at 4:07 AM
- and then caving to pressure and trying to do some dodgy stuff to win(edited)
- raven - Today at 4:08 AM
- and split apart begnion some more
- making the senators the ones supply daein with aid or something
- and sanaki et al going to gallia's side
- so making it a proper begnion civil war
- but while giving aid to nations ravaged by the war
- and crimea stayed on sanaki's side due to her previous aid
- shit like that would've made it more interesting
- and yeah micaiah being pragmatic and doing dirty shit to win is like
- perfectly fine
- since they would've been ravaged by gallia
- NotJim - Today at 4:09 AM
- lol blood pact
- raven - Today at 4:09 AM
- and parts of begnion forces
- NotJim - Today at 4:09 AM
- aka
- raven - Today at 4:09 AM
- but they went hte blood pact rout
- NotJim - Today at 4:09 AM
- 'make everyone a camus archetype'
- raven - Today at 4:09 AM
- and i'm not even sure why
- it's much more convoluted than what i described too
- Dotty - Today at 4:10 AM
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Oh welllllll
- raven - Today at 4:10 AM
- yeah i mean echoes has been pleasant so far
- echoes is the first story i've really enjoyed since FE9
- i wish alm made more mistakes though
- same with celica
- but that's an issue with most FE games aside from FE4
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