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- TIMONS FURNET K-LINE BAN LOG FROM #Furnet
- AUG 2007
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- [01:18] <Weasel_Guts> Alright... whats going on.
- [01:20] <Lymril> There seems to be a disagreement about who rightfully owns #FurJam.
- [01:20] <Weasel_Guts> i was the first one who registered Furjam, i can dig up the email if need be.
- [01:20] <Weasel_Guts> i have to channel pass, well probberbly the old one now
- [01:21] <AussieHusky> Weasel_Guts are you Weasley or are you RabidRacoon?
- [01:22] * Weasel_Guts is now known as Timon
- [01:22] * Timon is the owner of furjam.
- [01:22] <AussieHusky> hah
- [01:23] <AussieHusky> I fail to see why you would be, Jay dragged me into that channel, And then you join under a fake
- nick, You are not allowed to attend Furjam, legally, No one wants you there
- [01:23] <Timon> umm... i am allowed to attend, i was a organiser at the last one u know
- [01:23] <AussieHusky> besides, Its null and Void, Timon is supposed to be K-lined, His broken numerous sevrer rules,
- he shouldnt even be on Furnet
- [01:23] <Timon> and i gave you, jay, flay. smacky etc ops in there cause you all helping with furjam this yr
- [01:23] <AussieHusky> therefore he cannot own a channel
- [01:23] <Timon> No thats wrong, i am not K-lined, i have never been k-lined
- [01:24] <Timon> i suggest u check the records on that one
- [01:24] * Jerry_Kat has joined #furnet
- [01:24] <Timon> hey jerry wb
- [01:24] <Jerry_Kat> Thanks Timon.
- [01:24] <AussieHusky> No timon, You are not, Anakaine is the sole owner of FurJam, I am organising it this year
- [01:24] <AussieHusky> you are in no way involved, you have been told that if you attend the police will be called.
- [01:24] <Lymril> We're checking that out now.
- [01:24] <Timon> i registered the channel before i knew who was organising it this yr, but i knew u were involved thats
- why i have you ops
- [01:25] <Jerry_Kat> That's not fair, he registered the channel first.
- [01:25] * AussieHusky has hundreds of peices of evidence showing timon breaking furnet rules, Zetawolf has tried
- K-lining him
- [01:25] <Timon> Nope, he has never klined me
- [01:25] <AussieHusky> Anyone in Ozfetishfurs or Ozfurs can attest to the nightmare this guy is causing us
- [01:25] <Timon> ive been kicked out of certain ch's, never klined
- [01:26] <Timon> Your making it sound worse then what it truly is man.
- [01:26] <AussieHusky> And I should point out that Jerry_Kat is most likely timon, He tends to create other nicks to
- support his own claims because he knows no one else will
- [01:26] <Timon> Nope, Jerry is not me.
- [01:26] <Timon> his a fur from qld.
- [01:26] <AussieHusky> Its amazing how this people who have never been seen before, Turn up, Stand up for timon,
- then are never seen again
- [01:26] <Timon> what, i kill them off? lol
- [01:27] <Jerry_Kat> Nightmare? I am to believe that certain fursons who hold a grudge against the one Timon Berkowitz
- are simply making things look alot worse than they are in an attempt to cause Timon difficulties.
- * Looking up Jerry_Kat user info...
- [01:28] * Timon nods and sighs
- [01:28] <Jerry_Kat> It's fursecution.
- [01:28] <AussieHusky> your mentally troubled, Youve driven people from the fandom, you stalk people, you have 3
- people getting legal action taken against you...
- [01:28] <Jerry_Kat> Isn't there some sort of rule against that?
- [01:28] <AussieHusky> yes it must all be them >.>
- [01:29] <Timon> lol mentally troubled, no im not man, i havn't driven anyone from the fandom, in all right u guys
- have thrown me out.
- [01:29] <Timon> does not give right to make up stuff about me though
- [01:29] <Timon> and legal actions, theres no legal actions, i have yet to be served any form of avo papers.
- [01:29] <AussieHusky> Uhuh, Insinc and moddy?
- [01:29] <Jerry_Kat> Wether someone chooses to reside in the furry fandom or not is their choice. Timon hasn't
- "driven" anyone out.
- [01:29] <Timon> or any law related papers
- [01:29] <Lymril> I just got the email for the original registration request for the channel. It belongs to Timon.
- [01:30] * boodie has joined #furnet
- [01:30] <Jerry_Kat> Excellent. Therefore the channel SHOULD remain under Timon's control, yes?
- [01:31] <boodie> which channel?
- [01:31] <AussieHusky> FurJam
- [01:31] <Lymril> Actually, Timon_b or Timon Berkowitz.
- [01:31] <AussieHusky> Turns out he registered it ages ago
- [01:31] * Dimruthien has joined #furnet
- [01:31] <AussieHusky> It dosent change the fact that he should have been K-lined from the server
- [01:31] * Smokey has joined #furnet
- [01:31] <Jerry_Kat> Correct me if I'm wrong, but Moddy was never really "part" of the fandom per se anyway?
- [01:31] <Timon> ive never been K-Lined from Furnet.
- [01:31] * MistyStriker has joined #furnet
- [01:32] <Dimruthien> Smokey: this doesnt really concern you, mate
- [01:32] <boodie> well this is true, since he was such a dick in #ozfurs
- [01:32] <AussieHusky> He has been banned from the event by the organisers, He cannot control the channel
- for it, He is causing a shitload of trouble for us
- [01:32] <Timon> this is incorrect.
- [01:32] <Dimruthien> hes caused trouble in #sydfurs as well
- [01:32] * Timon is from Sydney, and was banned for no reason
- [01:32] <AussieHusky> We have had to go through all sorts of crap to keep him out of our channels and he
- has repeatedly evaded bans which is against furnet rules
- [01:32] <Dimruthien> threw threats around about some supposed dog of his
- [01:32] <Timon> a dog?..
- [01:32] <Dimruthien> he has since been unwelcome in channel and has constantly evaded bans
- [01:32] <Timon> wrong..
- [01:33] <AussieHusky> He followed us around for an entire night, Sent us creepy SMS's and then bragged about it
- [01:33] <Timon> THe ban for Sydfurs was unjust
- [01:33] <Timon> Nope thats incorrect i never sent sms'es, please show proof of smses.
- [01:33] <Dimruthien> if logs are required i can organise to have them presented by the owner of that channel
- [01:33] <Hurga> Timon: Not your business.
- [01:33] <AussieHusky> He was using the channels to spy on people so he could follow them around
- [01:33] <Dimruthien> he has harassed ops in ozfurs and sydfurs
- [01:33] * Timon is an Ozfur that resides in Sydney therefor i hang in those channels.
- [01:33] <Dimruthien> and has been trying to gather personal information on certain ops
- [01:33] * AussieHusky stil has the SMS "Give bandrik a hug, he looks sad" That was sent to us when we were
- standing ontop of a private hotel
- [01:34] <boodie> #ozfurs is currently in lock down due to Timon/ Rabid Racoon
- [01:34] <AussieHusky> We spent months trying to get him out of OzfetishFurs
- [01:34] <Jerry_Kat> *Raccoon
- [01:34] <Dimruthien> such as their real names, and their phone numbers for the use of unjust complaints to hose
- individuals at their work
- [01:34] <Hurga> Timon: If you're banned, you're banned Period. If you evade bans, you'll be K-Lined.
- [01:34] <Timon> i was a op in #Ozfetishfurs for years
- [01:34] <Timon> Hurga: Understood.
- [01:34] <Dimruthien> hes been evading bans for months
- [01:34] <Timon> we are all here regarding one thing though, my founder in #Furjam
- [01:35] <Dimruthien> personally as an op of ozfurs, an op in ozfurx and an admin in sydfurs im over it
- [01:35] <Hurga> Dimruthien: Can't comment on that, haven't been filled in on that.
- [01:35] <Lymril> You can be /akilled for being a general pain in the ass as well, and it sounds like you've
- met the criteria with a lot of users in a lot of channels.
- [01:35] <Dimruthien> i can fill you in if you like
- [01:35] <AussieHusky> Hurga I can provide _hundreds_ of examples of ban evasion
- [01:35] <Dimruthien> so can i
- [01:35] <Hurga> Dimruthien: A bit late. Please complain earlier next time.
- [01:35] <Dimruthien> we did
- [01:35] <Dimruthien> nothing was done
- [01:35] * AussieHusky has complained to zeta
- [01:35] <Timon> you guys keep making bogus complaints that is why
- [01:36] <Jerry_Kat> Where's the hard evidence?
- [01:36] <Hurga> hmm. OK, we got to ask Zeta in that case.
- [01:36] <AussieHusky> I still have the logs, their old but they are still valid
- [01:36] <Dimruthien> and you dont, mate?
- [01:36] <Dimruthien> i dont have logs due to HDD wipe, but the owner of sydfurs does i believe
- [01:36] * Hurga would prefer not to have to set up a trouble ticket system for that kind of shit.
- [01:36] <AussieHusky> Zeta said if any more trouble happened he would be writing to Timons ISP
- [01:37] <boodie> and I would hazard a guess that Rally has logs, he's pretty good about that sort of thing
- [01:37] <Dimruthien> it crossed over the line for me when timon threatened certain members of sydfurs with
- his supposed dog
- [01:37] <Dimruthien> and then had the nerve to come in here and complain about us
- [01:37] <MistyStriker> Hurga: Whats the main issue here? Is this just about #furjam or is it everything in general?
- [01:37] <AussieHusky> We both know Timon should have been K-lined by now, The only reason he hasnt been is
- because we cant manage it
- [01:37] <Dimruthien> aye
- [01:37] <Timon> I havn't done anything wrong i have not made any threats at all, i was just abit confused
- when i noticed i lost my founder.
- [01:37] <Hurga> MistyStriker: Until a few minutes ago it was #furjam. Problem is, that's Timon's reg. So
- now other stuff boils up.
- [01:38] <Dimruthien> i dont see how he should be founder of #furjam. he is not an organiser of the event.
- [01:38] <Dimruthien> if anyone should have the rights to set up a channel for an event it should be
- AussieHusky or Anakaine
- [01:38] <Dimruthien> as... absent as he is from IRC
- [01:38] <Timon> the channel was never registered. i registered it and gave furs regarding furjam ops there,
- i was org a few yrs back
- [01:38] * MistyStriker nods, "I got random logs of him in #ozfurs but Rally's probably go the same things
- so I think I'll just let everyone figure it out."
- [01:39] <Dimruthien> i can arrange sydfurs ops if required
- [01:39] <Dimruthien> *logs
- [01:39] <Timon> like everyone says to me when i try to use logs as proof, logs can be edited.
- [01:39] <AussieHusky> Dimruthien Anakaine and I are in regular contact, I rang him tonight about this.
- [01:39] <AussieHusky> He hates Timon even more than I do
- [01:39] <Jerry_Kat> Log files can easily be fabricated.
- [01:39] <Timon> i was speaking to him tonight on msn Aussie
- [01:39] * Smokey has left #furnet
- [01:39] <AussieHusky> I keep almost 24/7 logs of Ozfurs
- [01:40] <AussieHusky> your accusing Rally of editing logs?
- [01:40] * MistyStriker blinks and just keeps her mouth shut then.
- [01:40] <AussieHusky> His a hop in here O.o
- [01:40] <Timon> So...
- [01:40] <Jerry_Kat> Not at all.
- [01:40] <boodie> woah...
- [01:40] * MistyStriker has left #furnet
- [01:40] <AussieHusky> MistyStriker Dimmie either of you heard of Jerry_Kat? I suspect its a timon clone
- but timon insists its some brisfur
- [01:40] <Timon> i came here for one reason, to rectify the problem with My Channel, but then you all jump
- n and go off the high end.
- [01:40] <Jerry_Kat> I'm not from Brisbane.
- [01:40] <Dimruthien> unfortunately i thought that the matter would be resolved much earlier, otherwise i
- would have gotten screenshots since logs arent valid
- [01:40] <Jerry_Kat> QLD yes.
- [01:40] <Dimruthien> no ive never heard of them.
- [01:41] <AussieHusky> likewise
- [01:41] <Dimruthien> and i know most of the brisfurs
- [01:41] <Dimruthien> whatt exactly do they have to do with this issue?
- [01:41] <AussieHusky> Miraculous how these people turn up to support timon, who no one has ever heard of
- before, and afterwards they are never seen again
- [01:41] <Dimruthien> they are not a member of ozfurs, cant speak for furjam
- [01:41] <Dimruthien> aye but thats not the point right now
- [01:41] * AussieHusky shrugs, Has never seen he/she before tongiht
- [01:42] <Timon> Probberly cause they don't wanna be identified by a pack of furs who take grudges out on
- other furs, like you are on me.
- [01:42] <AussieHusky> I think as the organiser of FurJam I should be founder, Either that or the channel
- be closed, and if he tries to make any similarly named places they be closed aswell
- [01:42] <boodie> if the channel is at issue then leave timon with his one and start another one, and make
- sure people know which is the true channel for furjam
- [01:42] <Dimruthien> mate we're sick of you. youve reported most of us for something or other when we were
- doing our job. you tried to gather personal info about a good friend of mine and you threatened him
- [01:42] <Dimruthien> its beyond irc drama, this stuff is becoming legally punishable.
- [01:43] * Timon has not done anything illegal, your way off the deap end, and while ur at it remove my unjust bans.
- [01:43] <AussieHusky> As FurJam is still a private event, And Timon has been given written notice that
- if he in any way makes an appearence at the event he will be arrested, That there is no way he should be
- assoicated with Furjam
- [01:43] <Timon> i have not got any legal documentation supporting Aussie's fact there
- [01:43] <Dimruthien> no. they are there for a reason. i will not remove your bans and as IRCops are
- constantly in those channels to -keep you out- i dont think they think theyre unjust either
- [01:43] <Timon> its not a private event ether
- [01:44] <AussieHusky> Uhh
- [01:44] <AussieHusky> Yeah it is?
- [01:44] <Timon> no, its furjam... a huge meet for Furs accross Australia
- [01:44] <Dimruthien> you wouldnt be the first one to be banned from a meet/con
- [01:44] <Timon> i was at the last one.
- [01:44] <Timon> No im sure i wouldn't but i havn't done anything wrong.
- [01:44] <Dimruthien> you get the privaledge of being right up there with sibeyboy
- [01:44] <Timon> Sibe is a great guy
- [01:45] <AussieHusky> We have booked for the park, I have submitted a list of names, We will have the
- park ranger escort you off, The Pub and Resturant we have booked private areas in both, I will be calling
- them tommorow to let them know to keep you out
- [01:45] <Dimruthien> dont have to tell me that, we are on friendly terms.
- [01:45] <Hurga> Just FYI... I can't comment on any stuff which happened which I don't know of. Channel
- regs are first come first serve. But there's something against Timon on record... harassment stuff Zetawolf
- took care of.
- [01:45] <Timon> I know the park ranger, you can't have me kicked out of a place i work at...
- [01:45] <Dimruthien> personally im embarassed its come this far.
- [01:45] <Timon> and the zoo is public place as long as i pay money to get in.
- [01:45] <AussieHusky> Check with RallyAway or stephen, They can both attest to the issues Timon has caused
- for the Australian furs
- [01:46] <Dimruthien> aye
- [01:46] <AussieHusky> Timon hence why we booked
- [01:46] <Dimruthien> and ive gone to zeta about him as well
- [01:46] <Timon> well i havn't been K-Lined... im not breaking any rules im just trying to meet new furs.
- i fail to see what the problem with you guys really is
- [01:46] <AussieHusky> We own that spot for the day, I checked if anyone turns up who is not welcome we
- are within our rights to ask them to leave, I asked because I was worried about us being harrased by the public
- [01:46] <boodie> can i ask why you want to come to a place where you know you're not welcome?
- [01:46] * AussieHusky goes a log digging, Has every log going back 4 years.
- [01:47] * Timon is a fur, i went to the last furjam and met quite afew nice furs, why can't i do it again.
- [01:47] <Dimruthien> because you have done things in the past year to render you unwelcome.
- [01:48] <Timon> No i havn't.
- [01:48] <Hurga> If the organizers don't want it, I'd say it's a good reason.
- [01:48] <Dimruthien> your actions have been inappropriate.
- [01:48] <boodie> because you've burned all your bridges and people dont want you there
- [01:48] <Timon> No thats wrong.
- [01:48] <Dimruthien> you havent given any reason why it is.
- [01:48] <Timon> you know for furs, you guys don't seem that nice heh
- [01:48] <AussieHusky> Because I have 5+ Furs who have said if you are there they wont be?
- [01:49] <Timon> thats not my problem.
- [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Haha now that's just childish
- [01:49] <AussieHusky> yes it is, People want them there, We dont want you there.
- [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Seriously...
- [01:49] <Timon> others want me there.
- [01:49] <Dimruthien> Jerry_Kat: exactly what experience do you have with any of this?
- [01:49] <AussieHusky> timon seriously, no they dont
- [01:49] <Dimruthien> you are not a member of ozfurs, nor sydfurs
- [01:49] <AussieHusky> No one wants you there
- [01:49] <Dimruthien> you arent even a sydney fur
- [01:49] <Timon> umm... im from sydney if you can't get it through your head Dim
- [01:49] <Dimruthien> you have no right to say anything really
- [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Does it matter? I'll be going to FurJam either way.
- [01:50] <Dimruthien> im talking to Jerry_Kat
- [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Does it matter? I'll be going to FurJam either way.
- [01:50] <Dimruthien> im talking to Jerry_Kat
- [01:50] * ZetaWolf has joined #furnet
- [01:50] * FurBot sets mode: +oa ZetaWolf ZetaWolf
- [01:50] * Dimruthien tips her hat to ZetaWolf
- [01:50] <ZetaWolf> hello :)
- [01:50] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat: Be warned, If you cause any trouble you will be asked to leave,
- Other than that you are welcome
- [01:50] <Dimruthien> enjoy your stay
- [01:50] <Jerry_Kat> Excellent. Then I shall attend.
- [01:50] * AussieHusky gives ZetaWolf a frazzeled look
- [01:50] <ZetaWolf> lol Hi Hurga
- [01:50] <Timon> well ill just attend along with Jerry then, problem solved
- [01:50] <ZetaWolf> Do zeta have to choke a bitch? :)
- [01:50] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat: Keep in mind, If you are just timon in disguise I will still be calling the cops
- [01:51] <Timon> im telling you its not me. seriously
- [01:51] <Jerry_Kat> Rest assured, I am not Timon.
- [01:51] <Timon> but i will come along with him
- [01:51] <AussieHusky> Timon it dosent work that way, its not an invitiation + 1 for crazy town
- [01:51] <Dimruthien> yes please zeta.
- [01:51] <Timon> im not crazy, you got problems man
- [01:51] <boodie> Timon, how many times do you have to be told that you're not welcome
- [01:51] <ZetaWolf> Look dont start bickering here
- [01:51] <Timon> AussieHusky hacked my channel Zeta.
- [01:51] <Dimruthien> im over constantly having to kicban you every time you evade, timon
- [01:51] <AussieHusky> I did not O.O
- [01:51] <ZetaWolf> We're here to solve whatever the hell the problem is not escalate it
- [01:51] <Dimruthien> cease and desist.
- [01:52] <Timon> i agree
- [01:52] <Timon> now may i pls get my founder back and go back to bed.
- [01:52] <AussieHusky> I came to Furnet and asked for help because you banned me from a channel for an
- event you were legally banned from
- [01:52] <Timon> No, you banned me as i gave u ops ages ago
- [01:52] <ZetaWolf> shoosh for a moment
- [01:52] <Timon> not suppose to ban founder *Shutsup*
- [01:52] <Hurga> FYI: ChanServ: Changing founder of #furjam from Timon_b to AussieHusky
- [01:52] <Jerry_Kat> Seriously, I find it rather childish that furs are saying "If Timon's going to be
- there, I won't" ... What the heck is with that? They're just trying to find a way to convince the
- organizers to stop Timon attending.
- [01:52] <ZetaWolf> Thanks Hurga
- [01:52] <Hurga> Timon_b did register the channel indeed.
- [01:53] <Dimruthien> Jerry_Kat: convince? he does it well on his own.
- [01:53] <Lymril> [13:41] <AussieHusky> anway, his somehow hacked the FurJam channel, He just joined as
- owner a few minutes ago and kicked me out -_- and im the bloody FurJam organiser! XD
- [01:53] <Lymril> That was in here earlier today.
- [01:53] <Dimruthien> this doesnt involve you, i still dont know why youre here
- [01:53] <Jerry_Kat> But..seriously... It's childish. Very childish.
- [01:54] <Timon> ...
- [01:54] <boodie> childish is joining, getting kicked, rejoining and ad nauseam, and that was Timon in ozfurs
- [01:54] <Timon> You all know i registered it first, there should be no issue here.
- [01:54] <Lymril> Sure, Timon did register the channel first, but if he's banned from the furmeet then
- why should he be founder of the channel concerning it?
- [01:54] <ZetaWolf> ok do you guys want to bicker or get this fixed?
- [01:54] <Dimruthien> id like it fixed please.
- [01:54] <Jerry_Kat> I've only known Timon for 6 months, but from my experiences he is a good guy.
- [01:54] <ZetaWolf> Its Aussie's channel.
- [01:54] <Timon> No.. i registered it first zeta.
- [01:54] <Timon> its not aussies
- [01:54] <ZetaWolf> Timon has had problmes off and on in the Oz community
- [01:55] <ZetaWolf> Timon I think I've actually warned you to lay off recently.. am I correct?
- [01:55] * Timon has been a fur for Years, with the ozfurs.
- [01:55] <Timon> i have layed off, not my fault i lost founder while sitting there idleling tho
- [01:55] <Dimruthien> so have the rest of us, but we earned our right to be in the channel. its a privaledge
- [01:55] <Hurga> For the record: I still think it's Timon's channel. But if he gets akilled for troublemaking... well.
- [01:55] <ZetaWolf> I don't think the channel is yours rightly Timon, as I know you are/have been banned
- from serveral of the Oz channels/events
- [01:55] <Dimruthien> and many people have been inconvienced because of the lockdown of #ozfurs
- [01:56] <boodie> yah, the constant having people to ask to join is a pain
- [01:56] <Timon> Yeah Including me, just remove my bans and let me be
- [01:56] <Jerry_Kat> Inconvenienced? *Laughs*
- [01:56] <ZetaWolf> I'm just goin on what I've seen and delt with.
- [01:57] <AussieHusky> Hurga ZetaWolf Can we have Timon Akilled please? The Furnet rules state ban evasion
- is a serious breach of the rules and he has done it hundreds of times to the point where one of our channels
- is almost dead, and the other has been forced into +I for a month and is still going
- [01:57] <ZetaWolf> Just hold your pants on
- [01:57] <AussieHusky> He has also threatened phsyical violence against several members of SydFurs
- [01:57] <ZetaWolf> You cannot keep him out of the rooms with a standard channel ban?
- [01:57] <Timon> Aussie, thats bull, i never threatend anyone, tho i have got a few threats from other furs.
- [01:57] <ZetaWolf> Timon Shut up for a moment
- [01:57] <ZetaWolf> (being nice didn't work) :)
- [01:58] * Dimruthien gives ZetaWolf a comforting pat
- [01:58] <boodie> ZetaWolf: ask Rally the amount of trouble it took to actually get something that would
- stop him from joining under multiple names and from alls sorts of places
- [01:58] <Dimruthien> he dns jumps
- [01:58] <Dimruthien> i cant keep him out of ozfurx and sydfurs
- [01:58] <Dimruthien> im kbing him a few times a day
- [01:59] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf no he uses other machines and different nicks
- [01:59] <ZetaWolf> I would need the channel owners to make mention and if he evaded the bans I would either
- warn or remove
- [01:59] <AussieHusky> Every Op in ozfurs has banned him 20+ times
- [01:59] <Dimruthien> the channel founder of sydfurs is currently not home, i am the second-in-charge
- [01:59] * AussieHusky nods
- [01:59] <AussieHusky> Dimruthien and I are both Aops in Ozfurs
- [01:59] <Dimruthien> and RallyAway is the founder of ozfurx and ozfurs
- [01:59] * AussieHusky nods
- [02:00] <Dimruthien> and boodie is an admin
- [02:00] <AussieHusky> Im a Sop in Ozfetishfurs
- [02:00] <ZetaWolf> Timon: I have a question
- [02:00] <Timon> Yes Zeta
- [02:00] <ZetaWolf> Why do you register a channel for an event you are banned from??
- [02:00] <Timon> i didn't even know i was banned till 4pm today
- [02:00] <Timon> 8 hrs ago
- [02:00] <AussieHusky> All channels which he has seriously killed off because of the security measures we
- have had to implement, We put Ozfurs in +R and he just keeps registering new nicks to get in
- [02:00] <Timon> and im not banned, it was just some text crap
- [02:01] <ZetaWolf> so all the sudden you come on.. and your banned and such?
- [02:01] <ZetaWolf> for no reason?
- [02:01] * AussieHusky didnt ban anyone until 11:15 pm?
- [02:01] <Timon> i got a email stateing i was banned, from someone.
- [02:01] <AussieHusky> oh
- [02:01] <Timon> furjam ban
- [02:01] <Timon> the event
- [02:01] <AussieHusky> He got an email from the original founder of FurJam
- [02:01] <AussieHusky> Which you denied getting I might point out
- [02:01] <Timon> Yeah, or someone using his details
- [02:01] <Timon> No, i got it quite late
- [02:01] <Timon> then you gave it to me again
- [02:01] <Dimruthien> we can ask anakaine for confirmation that it was sent
- [02:02] <AussieHusky> Timon I have his mobile number, I have spoken with him several times
- [02:02] <Timon> i got it in the end ok.
- [02:02] <Timon> i got it to
- [02:02] <AussieHusky> I got a BCC of it
- [02:02] <ZetaWolf> Ok wait lets not get into RL shit for now
- [02:02] <ZetaWolf> lets keep it to this channel and whos it is
- [02:02] <ZetaWolf> please
- [02:02] <Timon> k
- [02:02] <ZetaWolf> you all need to settle your RL differances RL
- [02:02] <ZetaWolf> :)
- [02:02] <Timon> anyway i registered the Channel what, awhile back, sure u can check when.
- [02:03] <Timon> and it was not registered before then.
- [02:03] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf: Not sure if you remember, But Ive brought these problems with timon to you before
- [02:03] * RallyAway catches up on all the dross before saying anything.
- [02:03] <ZetaWolf> Ok, Timon, I do know that you've had issues in the community before and I don't think
- these people are going to lie and risk being removed from the network just to spite you.. if that makes sense.
- [02:03] <Dimruthien> morning rally *sigh*
- [02:03] <ZetaWolf> yes AussieHusky you have plus I know you know better than to lie to me :)
- [02:03] <boodie> hello Rally
- [02:04] <Timon> well we all know who registered the channel first, i still fail to see why there is so
- much much fuss about a small matter
- [02:04] <Dimruthien> because you made it a large one, timon
- [02:04] <ZetaWolf> because if you registerd it in spite of then that isn't going to fly
- [02:04] <Timon> no i just came here to get my founder back. simple
- [02:05] <Timon> No, i registered it before i even knew i was apparently banned from it...
- [02:05] <Dimruthien> and all your other actions have caught up, im afraid
- [02:05] <ZetaWolf> I don't think it was rightfully yours
- [02:05] <Timon> other actions have nothing to do with what im doing here ok.
- [02:05] <Timon> it was not registered before hand.
- [02:05] <ZetaWolf> You've had numerous complaints about harassment of these people
- [02:05] <ZetaWolf> You evade bans
- [02:05] <Timon> They place bans for no reason at all.
- [02:05] <ZetaWolf> or otherwise come on to channels you know very well you are not welcome on
- [02:05] * AussieHusky grins, Has seen zeta when his angry... not a good place to be
- [02:05] <Timon> no i go to local channels acause im part of the fandom
- [02:05] <ZetaWolf> Thats not up to you to decide my friend
- [02:06] <ZetaWolf> the owner of the channel and the people they put in charge decide who is allowed on a
- channel for what reason
- [02:06] <Timon> Ok, ill remember that for my Channel #Furjam then.
- [02:06] * Dimruthien beats her head against a brickwall.
- [02:06] <ZetaWolf> Its not your channel.
- [02:06] <Timon> i registered it.
- [02:07] <Timon> it was never registered before
- [02:07] <ZetaWolf> I think you did this out of spite
- [02:07] <Timon> ie, mine
- [02:07] <ZetaWolf> your registeration is decline
- [02:07] <Timon> No i did not, look at the registration date
- [02:07] <ZetaWolf> ie not yours
- [02:07] <Timon> it was approoved before.
- [02:07] <ZetaWolf> understand?
- [02:07] <Timon> No i don't
- [02:07] <AussieHusky> This is the problem we keep having though, He dosent listen to the fact that he is
- upsetting people by being there, he thinks because his australian that gives him unlimited access to any
- australian room no matter how badly he behaves
- [02:07] <ZetaWolf> because no one knew what you were doing and the reason you did it.
- [02:07] <Timon> you oviously got the wrong end of the stick zeta.
- [02:08] <ZetaWolf> and you obviously don't understand.
- [02:08] <Lymril> Timon: there is no reason you should own #FurJam when the channel is about a furmeet from
- which you have been banned. Even if rightfully registered to you, then you should surrender it to someone
- who is an organizer of the furmeet.
- [02:08] <Hurga> ZetaWolf: We can't really check the reasons why someone registers a channel here. And we
- shouldn't go into this.
- [02:08] <Timon> well your not open to listen to me Zeta
- [02:08] <Timon> i should still regain ops in the said channel, and not be kicked and banned from it.
- [02:08] <Timon> *Retain
- [02:09] <ZetaWolf> Hurga: I do know there was a on going problem with this user for harassing these very
- ame people. And I think registering their channel was a way to cause a problem
- [02:09] <Dimruthien> why, timon?
- [02:09] <Timon> Cause banning me for nothing is bloody stupid
- [02:09] <Dimruthien> why should you have ops in a channel about a furmeet from which you are banned?
- [02:09] <Dimruthien> it doesnt make logical sense
- [02:09] <AussieHusky> Its not nothing!
- [02:09] <AussieHusky> The stuff you have done is nuts o.o
- [02:10] <ZetaWolf> Timon: this is where you are not understanding
- [02:10] <Timon> im not banned from the dam meet im a fur ok, they have refused to give me the propper
- paper work prooving they banned me. so NOT BANNED
- [02:10] <ZetaWolf> If they don't want you on their channel for any reason thats all the reason you need.
- [02:10] <Lymril> Keep in mind that even if given ops it is the Founder's decision whether or not you keep s
- aid ops or even remain in the channel.
- [02:10] <Timon> wel i am the founder at the moment
- [02:10] <AussieHusky> The mess we have had to put #ozfurs in just to keep you out... We have to have an
- aop in there at all times just to let people in and keep you out
- [02:10] <Timon> maybe u should just let me be and u won't have any problems?..
- [02:11] <Dimruthien> people are going upwards of an hour without an invite in ozfurs because we cant
- be there all the time
- [02:11] <boodie> Timon: in case you werent reading, the main activities at furjam are being held in
- prebooked private areas, from which you are banned from attending.
- [02:11] <Timon> remove the bans, remove invite only, and you will not have any problems. simple
- [02:12] <Timon> No problem i work at those places at times i can get the bans lifted, so ill come
- along and we will have a good idea, cool?
- [02:12] <AussieHusky> Timon: There are three AVO's on there way to you, You have been given written
- legal notice that it is a private function and you are not welcome, I will also be speaking with the
- private clubs, and the private parks we have booked, Im sure the Zoo would have no issue keeping you out
- if we tell them what is happening. So you have the police, The owners, and a whorde of people willing to
- throw you in the harbour if you turn up.
- [02:12] <Dimruthien> they are -privately- booked, timon. you cannot get in, regardless of any
- affiliation you have
- [02:12] <ZetaWolf> Look
- [02:13] <Timon> i might be working there on those days...
- [02:13] <Timon> and AVO's your full of it i have not got any avos
- [02:13] <Timon> to get avo u got to take me to court FIRST
- [02:13] <Timon> i have no court summons
- [02:13] <ZetaWolf> You guys need to work out the rest of this stuff off this channel
- [02:13] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf is right, Lets get this sorted out first
- [02:13] <Timon> ok, May i please have my channel back so i can be on my way.
- [02:14] <Dimruthien> it -is- sorted, aussie. timon just refuses to accept the terms.
- [02:14] <Timon> its not sorted yet
- [02:14] <AussieHusky> Okay, Onto the next matter of business
- [02:14] <AussieHusky> K-lining Timon from the network
- [02:14] <Timon> lol, you can't K-Line me for something i didn't do
- [02:15] <ZetaWolf> You've harassed people and ban evaded numerous times
- [02:15] <Hurga> I think we've seen a sufficient amount of complaints...
- [02:15] * AussieHusky can provide several logs, and testiemonies from people on ban evasion, Physical
- threats, and being a general asshole, Including the founders and sops of the channels
- [02:15] <ZetaWolf> AussieHusky: shh for a moment :)
- [02:15] * AussieHusky will be good >.>
- [02:15] <Timon> you know ur making my life worse aussie? heh
- [02:16] <ZetaWolf> sorry to sound rude
- [02:16] <ZetaWolf> but we don't care right now.
- [02:16] <Timon> well oviously heh
- [02:16] <RallyAway> ...still readng btw. and hi folks... geez you lot go on and on *ducks and hides* :)
- [02:16] * Dimruthien chokes on a laugh
- [02:16] <boodie> rally: gee you're slow 8-)
- [02:16] <Lymril> This is almost like running FurServ again.
- [02:16] <Dimruthien> RallyAway: im sleep depped and ticked off and wired. im the energizer bunny.
- [02:16] <ZetaWolf> Do you care when you cause problems on channels and I have to sort things out?
- [02:16] <ZetaWolf> Anyhow
- [02:17] <ZetaWolf> I
- [02:17] <ZetaWolf> er
- [02:17] <Dimruthien> i feel -really- sorry for Lymril, Hurga and ZetaWolf right now.
- [02:17] * AussieHusky nods
- [02:17] <Dimruthien> it must feel like playgroup with 3 year olds
- [02:17] <ZetaWolf> Pfft its not a problem this is mild :p
- [02:17] <Dimruthien> id hate to see dramatic
- [02:17] <RallyAway> ..and btw, Timon loves this kind of attention and is probably logging everything so he can
- brag about it later on, but you already know this.
- [02:17] <Dimruthien> yeah we dont care!
- [02:17] * Dimruthien waves picket sign
- [02:17] <Timon> its going to be a killer on my printer Rally
- [02:17] <ZetaWolf> thats why I believe he and this network are going to part ways
- [02:17] * AussieHusky is sure it will be up on his server by tonight
- [02:17] <boodie> ZetaWolf can do this with one paw tied behind his back
- [02:18] <RallyAway> ...and catching up on something... "[00:11] <Timon> remove the bans, remove invite only,
- and you will not have any problems. simple" in reply...: No. You are permanently banned and that will not
- change. Get used to it. If you keep trying to ban evade I will just keep us in invite only mode.
- [02:18] <Dimruthien> lol zeta
- [02:19] <Timon> i shouldn't even be banned in the first place rally.
- [02:19] <Dimruthien> i dont mind invite only tbh. i just wish there was an easier way
- [02:19] <AussieHusky> Despite the gross inconvenience keeping us in +i is causing
- [02:19] <ZetaWolf> is their channel their choice
- [02:19] * Timon shrugs
- [02:19] <ZetaWolf> anyhow I've seen you evade bans and contiune to harass users
- [02:20] <AussieHusky> dimmie: If it wasnt for timon we could add TPG to the white list and that would solve
- a few of our remaining inviters
- [02:20] * Hendikins has joined #furnet
- [02:20] <Timon> manage to catch my ip to Zeta?.
- [02:20] <Dimruthien> does anyone else get the sensation that this discussion is going around in circles?
- [02:20] <ZetaWolf> yes
- [02:20] <RallyAway> ... reminds me, yes I have logs, going back to 1999 for #OzFurs, barring a slight mishap
- where I lost about 4 or 5 months in a HDD failure. Almost constant 24/7.
- [02:20] * AussieHusky knows he has explained this a hundred times..
- [02:20] <Dimruthien> oh good. i thought it was the sausage i ate for dinner.
- [02:20] <AussieHusky> I have logs of when he pulled the same thing in Ozfetishfurs
- [02:21] <Dimruthien> but rally has a life *nods*
- [02:21] <Timon> i was a op there for years Aussie
- [02:21] Closing Link: Timon[60-240-201-253.tpgi.com.au] (User has been banned from FurNet (Timon Akilled for harassment))
- [02:20] <ZetaWolf> Ok
- * Retrieving #furnet modes...
- [02:21] <AussieHusky> yeah until the amount of drama you caused got you banned
- [02:21] <ZetaWolf> problem solved
- [02:21] <ZetaWolf> anything else?
- [02:21] <Hurga> Yes, drop his nick regs.
- [02:21] <ZetaWolf> I get tired of hearing him argue with everything
- [02:21] <AussieHusky> No offence, But how likely is that Akill to hold him?
- [02:21] <Dimruthien> oh thank god for that
- [02:21] <AussieHusky> He logs in through unsecure machines overseas
- [02:22] <Jerry_Kat> RIP Timon BOOOOO! BOOOOOO! Shame on you, Furnet.
- [02:22] <ZetaWolf> hehe yeah
- [02:22] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf he dosent, He uses Tosca Rabid_racoon
- [02:22] <ZetaWolf> and trust me these aussie will let us know
- [02:22] <AussieHusky> Timon_b
- [02:22] <AussieHusky> Squirril_boi
- [02:23] <ZetaWolf> and someone teach him to spell "obviously"
- [02:23] <ZetaWolf> Is there anything else I can help you folks with?
- [02:23] <RallyAway> yay! bottom of the buffer.. and damn, missed all the fun
- [02:24] <Hurga> RallyAway: Problem got solved ok?
- [02:24] * AussieHusky hugs ZetaWolf... Not exactly the best way to meet up again
- [02:24] <ZetaWolf> lol
- [02:24] <ZetaWolf> you know where to find me
- [02:25] <boodie> with that i notes that its almost 2.30 am and my bed calls, thank
- you kind sirs/madams/assorted furs for fixing this
- [02:25] <Dimruthien> i feel embarassed
- [02:26] <Jerry_Kat> This is an outrage. How dare you ban Timon. He was a model fur,
- you should should all be ashamed of yourselves.
- [02:26] <RallyAway> shoo folks! let sleeping furres lie and all that stuff! Out, out! Back to #OzFurs....
- [02:26] <Hurga> Again, I need to emphasize that point... I don't want to start channel regs
- for RL issues. They're first come first serve. It was Timon's channel. As long as he was here.
- [02:26] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat Im 99% sure you are timon
- [02:26] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat Im 99% sure you are timon
- [02:26] <RallyAway> Oh, and how much you wanna bet this Jerry_Kat is Timon since noone knows him.
- [02:26] <boodie> the cats want me to turn off the lights, so i shall
- [02:26] <Hurga> I don't want to start evaluating channel regs for RL issues, I mean.
- [02:26] <Jerry_Kat> Well I'm afraid your method of calculation has failed you.
- [02:27] * boodie (~teddieboo@220-253-138-120.TAS.netspace.net.au) has left #furnet
- [02:27] <RallyAway> understandable.
- [02:27] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat: Thats what timon always says
- [02:37] Closing Link: Jerry_Kat[72.41.194.203.dial.dynamic.acc01-wick-bne.comindico.com.au]
- (User has been banned from FurNet (Timon: Akill evasion go away))
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