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  1. TIMONS FURNET K-LINE BAN LOG FROM #Furnet
  2. AUG 2007
  3.  
  4. [01:18] * Now talking in #furnet
  5. [01:18] * Topic is 'If you are having problems connecting please try <server>.furnet.info. Please, no idling in channel.
  6. You'll be politely asked to leave, then kicked. Do NOT give your passwords to ANYONE. If no one is available leave a
  7. message on channel and we'll get back to you ASAP.'
  8. [01:18] * Set by ZetaWolf on Fri Jan 26 20:26:10
  9. [01:18] -FurBot- Welcome to #FurNet, This channel is for services help and Network questions. Please do not idle here,
  10. as it is not a "chat" channel. Never Give out your Passwords. Please be patient with your questions, an admin or helper
  11. will be with you as soon as they can. Helpers are indicated by a %. This is not a Complaints channel, IRCops and Admins
  12. will not moderate/govern a channel.
  13. [01:18] <Weasel_Guts> Alright... whats going on.
  14. [01:20] <Lymril> There seems to be a disagreement about who rightfully owns #FurJam.
  15. [01:20] <Weasel_Guts> i was the first one who registered Furjam, i can dig up the email if need be.
  16. [01:20] <Weasel_Guts> i have to channel pass, well probberbly the old one now
  17. [01:21] <AussieHusky> Weasel_Guts are you Weasley or are you RabidRacoon?
  18. [01:22] * Weasel_Guts is now known as Timon
  19. [01:22] * Timon is the owner of furjam.
  20. [01:22] <AussieHusky> hah
  21. [01:23] <AussieHusky> I fail to see why you would be, Jay dragged me into that channel, And then you join under a fake
  22. nick, You are not allowed to attend Furjam, legally, No one wants you there
  23. [01:23] <Timon> umm... i am allowed to attend, i was a organiser at the last one u know
  24. [01:23] <AussieHusky> besides, Its null and Void, Timon is supposed to be K-lined, His broken numerous sevrer rules,
  25. he shouldnt even be on Furnet
  26. [01:23] <Timon> and i gave you, jay, flay. smacky etc ops in there cause you all helping with furjam this yr
  27. [01:23] <AussieHusky> therefore he cannot own a channel
  28. [01:23] <Timon> No thats wrong, i am not K-lined, i have never been k-lined
  29. [01:24] <Timon> i suggest u check the records on that one
  30. [01:24] * Jerry_Kat has joined #furnet
  31. [01:24] <Timon> hey jerry wb
  32. [01:24] <Jerry_Kat> Thanks Timon.
  33. [01:24] <AussieHusky> No timon, You are not, Anakaine is the sole owner of FurJam, I am organising it this year
  34. [01:24] <AussieHusky> you are in no way involved, you have been told that if you attend the police will be called.
  35. [01:24] <Lymril> We're checking that out now.
  36. [01:24] <Timon> i registered the channel before i knew who was organising it this yr, but i knew u were involved thats
  37. why i have you ops
  38. [01:25] <Jerry_Kat> That's not fair, he registered the channel first.
  39. [01:25] * AussieHusky has hundreds of peices of evidence showing timon breaking furnet rules, Zetawolf has tried
  40. K-lining him
  41. [01:25] <Timon> Nope, he has never klined me
  42. [01:25] <AussieHusky> Anyone in Ozfetishfurs or Ozfurs can attest to the nightmare this guy is causing us
  43. [01:25] <Timon> ive been kicked out of certain ch's, never klined
  44. [01:26] <Timon> Your making it sound worse then what it truly is man.
  45. [01:26] <AussieHusky> And I should point out that Jerry_Kat is most likely timon, He tends to create other nicks to
  46. support his own claims because he knows no one else will
  47. [01:26] <Timon> Nope, Jerry is not me.
  48. [01:26] <Timon> his a fur from qld.
  49. [01:26] <AussieHusky> Its amazing how this people who have never been seen before, Turn up, Stand up for timon,
  50. then are never seen again
  51. [01:26] <Timon> what, i kill them off? lol
  52. [01:27] <Jerry_Kat> Nightmare? I am to believe that certain fursons who hold a grudge against the one Timon Berkowitz
  53. are simply making things look alot worse than they are in an attempt to cause Timon difficulties.
  54. * Looking up Jerry_Kat user info...
  55. [01:28] * Timon nods and sighs
  56. [01:28] <Jerry_Kat> It's fursecution.
  57. [01:28] <AussieHusky> your mentally troubled, Youve driven people from the fandom, you stalk people, you have 3
  58. people getting legal action taken against you...
  59. [01:28] <Jerry_Kat> Isn't there some sort of rule against that?
  60. [01:28] <AussieHusky> yes it must all be them >.>
  61. [01:29] <Timon> lol mentally troubled, no im not man, i havn't driven anyone from the fandom, in all right u guys
  62. have thrown me out.
  63. [01:29] <Timon> does not give right to make up stuff about me though
  64. [01:29] <Timon> and legal actions, theres no legal actions, i have yet to be served any form of avo papers.
  65. [01:29] <AussieHusky> Uhuh, Insinc and moddy?
  66. [01:29] <Jerry_Kat> Wether someone chooses to reside in the furry fandom or not is their choice. Timon hasn't
  67. "driven" anyone out.
  68. [01:29] <Timon> or any law related papers
  69. [01:29] <Lymril> I just got the email for the original registration request for the channel. It belongs to Timon.
  70. [01:30] * boodie has joined #furnet
  71. [01:30] <Jerry_Kat> Excellent. Therefore the channel SHOULD remain under Timon's control, yes?
  72. [01:31] <boodie> which channel?
  73. [01:31] <AussieHusky> FurJam
  74. [01:31] <Lymril> Actually, Timon_b or Timon Berkowitz.
  75. [01:31] <AussieHusky> Turns out he registered it ages ago
  76. [01:31] * Dimruthien has joined #furnet
  77. [01:31] <AussieHusky> It dosent change the fact that he should have been K-lined from the server
  78. [01:31] * Smokey has joined #furnet
  79. [01:31] <Jerry_Kat> Correct me if I'm wrong, but Moddy was never really "part" of the fandom per se anyway?
  80. [01:31] <Timon> ive never been K-Lined from Furnet.
  81. [01:31] * MistyStriker has joined #furnet
  82. [01:32] <Dimruthien> Smokey: this doesnt really concern you, mate
  83. [01:32] <boodie> well this is true, since he was such a dick in #ozfurs
  84. [01:32] <AussieHusky> He has been banned from the event by the organisers, He cannot control the channel
  85. for it, He is causing a shitload of trouble for us
  86. [01:32] <Timon> this is incorrect.
  87. [01:32] <Dimruthien> hes caused trouble in #sydfurs as well
  88. [01:32] * Timon is from Sydney, and was banned for no reason
  89. [01:32] <AussieHusky> We have had to go through all sorts of crap to keep him out of our channels and he
  90. has repeatedly evaded bans which is against furnet rules
  91. [01:32] <Dimruthien> threw threats around about some supposed dog of his
  92. [01:32] <Timon> a dog?..
  93. [01:32] <Dimruthien> he has since been unwelcome in channel and has constantly evaded bans
  94. [01:32] <Timon> wrong..
  95. [01:33] <AussieHusky> He followed us around for an entire night, Sent us creepy SMS's and then bragged about it
  96. [01:33] <Timon> THe ban for Sydfurs was unjust
  97. [01:33] <Timon> Nope thats incorrect i never sent sms'es, please show proof of smses.
  98. [01:33] <Dimruthien> if logs are required i can organise to have them presented by the owner of that channel
  99. [01:33] <Hurga> Timon: Not your business.
  100. [01:33] <AussieHusky> He was using the channels to spy on people so he could follow them around
  101. [01:33] <Dimruthien> he has harassed ops in ozfurs and sydfurs
  102. [01:33] * Timon is an Ozfur that resides in Sydney therefor i hang in those channels.
  103. [01:33] <Dimruthien> and has been trying to gather personal information on certain ops
  104. [01:33] * AussieHusky stil has the SMS "Give bandrik a hug, he looks sad" That was sent to us when we were
  105. standing ontop of a private hotel
  106. [01:34] <boodie> #ozfurs is currently in lock down due to Timon/ Rabid Racoon
  107. [01:34] <AussieHusky> We spent months trying to get him out of OzfetishFurs
  108. [01:34] <Jerry_Kat> *Raccoon
  109. [01:34] <Dimruthien> such as their real names, and their phone numbers for the use of unjust complaints to hose
  110. individuals at their work
  111. [01:34] <Hurga> Timon: If you're banned, you're banned Period. If you evade bans, you'll be K-Lined.
  112. [01:34] <Timon> i was a op in #Ozfetishfurs for years
  113. [01:34] <Timon> Hurga: Understood.
  114. [01:34] <Dimruthien> hes been evading bans for months
  115. [01:34] <Timon> we are all here regarding one thing though, my founder in #Furjam
  116. [01:35] <Dimruthien> personally as an op of ozfurs, an op in ozfurx and an admin in sydfurs im over it
  117. [01:35] <Hurga> Dimruthien: Can't comment on that, haven't been filled in on that.
  118. [01:35] <Lymril> You can be /akilled for being a general pain in the ass as well, and it sounds like you've
  119.  
  120. met the criteria with a lot of users in a lot of channels.
  121. [01:35] <Dimruthien> i can fill you in if you like
  122. [01:35] <AussieHusky> Hurga I can provide _hundreds_ of examples of ban evasion
  123. [01:35] <Dimruthien> so can i
  124. [01:35] <Hurga> Dimruthien: A bit late. Please complain earlier next time.
  125. [01:35] <Dimruthien> we did
  126. [01:35] <Dimruthien> nothing was done
  127. [01:35] * AussieHusky has complained to zeta
  128. [01:35] <Timon> you guys keep making bogus complaints that is why
  129. [01:36] <Jerry_Kat> Where's the hard evidence?
  130. [01:36] <Hurga> hmm. OK, we got to ask Zeta in that case.
  131. [01:36] <AussieHusky> I still have the logs, their old but they are still valid
  132. [01:36] <Dimruthien> and you dont, mate?
  133. [01:36] <Dimruthien> i dont have logs due to HDD wipe, but the owner of sydfurs does i believe
  134. [01:36] * Hurga would prefer not to have to set up a trouble ticket system for that kind of shit.
  135. [01:36] <AussieHusky> Zeta said if any more trouble happened he would be writing to Timons ISP
  136. [01:37] <boodie> and I would hazard a guess that Rally has logs, he's pretty good about that sort of thing
  137. [01:37] <Dimruthien> it crossed over the line for me when timon threatened certain members of sydfurs with
  138. his supposed dog
  139. [01:37] <Dimruthien> and then had the nerve to come in here and complain about us
  140. [01:37] <MistyStriker> Hurga: Whats the main issue here? Is this just about #furjam or is it everything in general?
  141. [01:37] <AussieHusky> We both know Timon should have been K-lined by now, The only reason he hasnt been is
  142. because we cant manage it
  143. [01:37] <Dimruthien> aye
  144. [01:37] <Timon> I havn't done anything wrong i have not made any threats at all, i was just abit confused
  145. when i noticed i lost my founder.
  146. [01:37] <Hurga> MistyStriker: Until a few minutes ago it was #furjam. Problem is, that's Timon's reg. So
  147. now other stuff boils up.
  148. [01:38] <Dimruthien> i dont see how he should be founder of #furjam. he is not an organiser of the event.
  149. [01:38] <Dimruthien> if anyone should have the rights to set up a channel for an event it should be
  150. AussieHusky or Anakaine
  151. [01:38] <Dimruthien> as... absent as he is from IRC
  152. [01:38] <Timon> the channel was never registered. i registered it and gave furs regarding furjam ops there,
  153. i was org a few yrs back
  154. [01:38] * MistyStriker nods, "I got random logs of him in #ozfurs but Rally's probably go the same things
  155. so I think I'll just let everyone figure it out."
  156. [01:39] <Dimruthien> i can arrange sydfurs ops if required
  157. [01:39] <Dimruthien> *logs
  158. [01:39] <Timon> like everyone says to me when i try to use logs as proof, logs can be edited.
  159. [01:39] <AussieHusky> Dimruthien Anakaine and I are in regular contact, I rang him tonight about this.
  160. [01:39] <AussieHusky> He hates Timon even more than I do
  161. [01:39] <Jerry_Kat> Log files can easily be fabricated.
  162. [01:39] <Timon> i was speaking to him tonight on msn Aussie
  163. [01:39] * Smokey has left #furnet
  164. [01:39] <AussieHusky> I keep almost 24/7 logs of Ozfurs
  165. [01:40] <AussieHusky> your accusing Rally of editing logs?
  166. [01:40] * MistyStriker blinks and just keeps her mouth shut then.
  167. [01:40] <AussieHusky> His a hop in here O.o
  168. [01:40] <Timon> So...
  169. [01:40] <Jerry_Kat> Not at all.
  170. [01:40] <boodie> woah...
  171. [01:40] * MistyStriker has left #furnet
  172. [01:40] <AussieHusky> MistyStriker Dimmie either of you heard of Jerry_Kat? I suspect its a timon clone
  173. but timon insists its some brisfur
  174. [01:40] <Timon> i came here for one reason, to rectify the problem with My Channel, but then you all jump
  175. n and go off the high end.
  176. [01:40] <Jerry_Kat> I'm not from Brisbane.
  177. [01:40] <Dimruthien> unfortunately i thought that the matter would be resolved much earlier, otherwise i
  178. would have gotten screenshots since logs arent valid
  179. [01:40] <Jerry_Kat> QLD yes.
  180. [01:40] <Dimruthien> no ive never heard of them.
  181. [01:41] <AussieHusky> likewise
  182. [01:41] <Dimruthien> and i know most of the brisfurs
  183. [01:41] <Dimruthien> whatt exactly do they have to do with this issue?
  184. [01:41] <AussieHusky> Miraculous how these people turn up to support timon, who no one has ever heard of
  185. before, and afterwards they are never seen again
  186. [01:41] <Dimruthien> they are not a member of ozfurs, cant speak for furjam
  187. [01:41] <Dimruthien> aye but thats not the point right now
  188. [01:41] * AussieHusky shrugs, Has never seen he/she before tongiht
  189. [01:42] <Timon> Probberly cause they don't wanna be identified by a pack of furs who take grudges out on
  190. other furs, like you are on me.
  191. [01:42] <AussieHusky> I think as the organiser of FurJam I should be founder, Either that or the channel
  192. be closed, and if he tries to make any similarly named places they be closed aswell
  193. [01:42] <boodie> if the channel is at issue then leave timon with his one and start another one, and make
  194. sure people know which is the true channel for furjam
  195. [01:42] <Dimruthien> mate we're sick of you. youve reported most of us for something or other when we were
  196. doing our job. you tried to gather personal info about a good friend of mine and you threatened him
  197. [01:42] <Dimruthien> its beyond irc drama, this stuff is becoming legally punishable.
  198. [01:43] * Timon has not done anything illegal, your way off the deap end, and while ur at it remove my unjust bans.
  199. [01:43] <AussieHusky> As FurJam is still a private event, And Timon has been given written notice that
  200. if he in any way makes an appearence at the event he will be arrested, That there is no way he should be
  201. assoicated with Furjam
  202. [01:43] <Timon> i have not got any legal documentation supporting Aussie's fact there
  203. [01:43] <Dimruthien> no. they are there for a reason. i will not remove your bans and as IRCops are
  204. constantly in those channels to -keep you out- i dont think they think theyre unjust either
  205. [01:43] <Timon> its not a private event ether
  206. [01:44] <AussieHusky> Uhh
  207. [01:44] <AussieHusky> Yeah it is?
  208. [01:44] <Timon> no, its furjam... a huge meet for Furs accross Australia
  209. [01:44] <Dimruthien> you wouldnt be the first one to be banned from a meet/con
  210. [01:44] <Timon> i was at the last one.
  211. [01:44] <Timon> No im sure i wouldn't but i havn't done anything wrong.
  212. [01:44] <Dimruthien> you get the privaledge of being right up there with sibeyboy
  213. [01:44] <Timon> Sibe is a great guy
  214. [01:45] <AussieHusky> We have booked for the park, I have submitted a list of names, We will have the
  215. park ranger escort you off, The Pub and Resturant we have booked private areas in both, I will be calling
  216. them tommorow to let them know to keep you out
  217. [01:45] <Dimruthien> dont have to tell me that, we are on friendly terms.
  218. [01:45] <Hurga> Just FYI... I can't comment on any stuff which happened which I don't know of. Channel
  219. regs are first come first serve. But there's something against Timon on record... harassment stuff Zetawolf
  220. took care of.
  221. [01:45] <Timon> I know the park ranger, you can't have me kicked out of a place i work at...
  222. [01:45] <Dimruthien> personally im embarassed its come this far.
  223. [01:45] <Timon> and the zoo is public place as long as i pay money to get in.
  224. [01:45] <AussieHusky> Check with RallyAway or stephen, They can both attest to the issues Timon has caused
  225. for the Australian furs
  226. [01:46] <Dimruthien> aye
  227. [01:46] <AussieHusky> Timon hence why we booked
  228. [01:46] <Dimruthien> and ive gone to zeta about him as well
  229. [01:46] <Timon> well i havn't been K-Lined... im not breaking any rules im just trying to meet new furs.
  230. i fail to see what the problem with you guys really is
  231. [01:46] <AussieHusky> We own that spot for the day, I checked if anyone turns up who is not welcome we
  232. are within our rights to ask them to leave, I asked because I was worried about us being harrased by the public
  233. [01:46] <boodie> can i ask why you want to come to a place where you know you're not welcome?
  234. [01:46] * AussieHusky goes a log digging, Has every log going back 4 years.
  235. [01:47] * Timon is a fur, i went to the last furjam and met quite afew nice furs, why can't i do it again.
  236. [01:47] <Dimruthien> because you have done things in the past year to render you unwelcome.
  237. [01:48] <Timon> No i havn't.
  238. [01:48] <Hurga> If the organizers don't want it, I'd say it's a good reason.
  239. [01:48] <Dimruthien> your actions have been inappropriate.
  240. [01:48] <boodie> because you've burned all your bridges and people dont want you there
  241. [01:48] <Timon> No thats wrong.
  242. [01:48] <Dimruthien> you havent given any reason why it is.
  243. [01:48] <Timon> you know for furs, you guys don't seem that nice heh
  244. [01:48] <AussieHusky> Because I have 5+ Furs who have said if you are there they wont be?
  245. [01:49] <Timon> thats not my problem.
  246. [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Haha now that's just childish
  247. [01:49] <AussieHusky> yes it is, People want them there, We dont want you there.
  248. [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Seriously...
  249. [01:49] <Timon> others want me there.
  250. [01:49] <Dimruthien> Jerry_Kat: exactly what experience do you have with any of this?
  251. [01:49] <AussieHusky> timon seriously, no they dont
  252. [01:49] <Dimruthien> you are not a member of ozfurs, nor sydfurs
  253. [01:49] <AussieHusky> No one wants you there
  254. [01:49] <Dimruthien> you arent even a sydney fur
  255. [01:49] <Timon> umm... im from sydney if you can't get it through your head Dim
  256. [01:49] <Dimruthien> you have no right to say anything really
  257. [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Does it matter? I'll be going to FurJam either way.
  258. [01:50] <Dimruthien> im talking to Jerry_Kat
  259. [01:49] <Jerry_Kat> Does it matter? I'll be going to FurJam either way.
  260. [01:50] <Dimruthien> im talking to Jerry_Kat
  261. [01:50] * ZetaWolf has joined #furnet
  262. [01:50] * FurBot sets mode: +oa ZetaWolf ZetaWolf
  263. [01:50] * Dimruthien tips her hat to ZetaWolf
  264. [01:50] <ZetaWolf> hello :)
  265. [01:50] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat: Be warned, If you cause any trouble you will be asked to leave,
  266. Other than that you are welcome
  267. [01:50] <Dimruthien> enjoy your stay
  268. [01:50] <Jerry_Kat> Excellent. Then I shall attend.
  269. [01:50] * AussieHusky gives ZetaWolf a frazzeled look
  270. [01:50] <ZetaWolf> lol Hi Hurga
  271. [01:50] <Timon> well ill just attend along with Jerry then, problem solved
  272. [01:50] <ZetaWolf> Do zeta have to choke a bitch? :)
  273. [01:50] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat: Keep in mind, If you are just timon in disguise I will still be calling the cops
  274. [01:51] <Timon> im telling you its not me. seriously
  275. [01:51] <Jerry_Kat> Rest assured, I am not Timon.
  276. [01:51] <Timon> but i will come along with him
  277. [01:51] <AussieHusky> Timon it dosent work that way, its not an invitiation + 1 for crazy town
  278. [01:51] <Dimruthien> yes please zeta.
  279. [01:51] <Timon> im not crazy, you got problems man
  280. [01:51] <boodie> Timon, how many times do you have to be told that you're not welcome
  281. [01:51] <ZetaWolf> Look dont start bickering here
  282. [01:51] <Timon> AussieHusky hacked my channel Zeta.
  283. [01:51] <Dimruthien> im over constantly having to kicban you every time you evade, timon
  284. [01:51] <AussieHusky> I did not O.O
  285. [01:51] <ZetaWolf> We're here to solve whatever the hell the problem is not escalate it
  286. [01:51] <Dimruthien> cease and desist.
  287. [01:52] <Timon> i agree
  288. [01:52] <Timon> now may i pls get my founder back and go back to bed.
  289. [01:52] <AussieHusky> I came to Furnet and asked for help because you banned me from a channel for an
  290. event you were legally banned from
  291. [01:52] <Timon> No, you banned me as i gave u ops ages ago
  292. [01:52] <ZetaWolf> shoosh for a moment
  293. [01:52] <Timon> not suppose to ban founder *Shutsup*
  294. [01:52] <Hurga> FYI: ChanServ: Changing founder of #furjam from Timon_b to AussieHusky
  295. [01:52] <Jerry_Kat> Seriously, I find it rather childish that furs are saying "If Timon's going to be
  296. there, I won't" ... What the heck is with that? They're just trying to find a way to convince the
  297. organizers to stop Timon attending.
  298. [01:52] <ZetaWolf> Thanks Hurga
  299. [01:52] <Hurga> Timon_b did register the channel indeed.
  300. [01:53] <Dimruthien> Jerry_Kat: convince? he does it well on his own.
  301. [01:53] <Lymril> [13:41] <AussieHusky> anway, his somehow hacked the FurJam channel, He just joined as
  302. owner a few minutes ago and kicked me out -_- and im the bloody FurJam organiser! XD
  303. [01:53] <Lymril> That was in here earlier today.
  304. [01:53] <Dimruthien> this doesnt involve you, i still dont know why youre here
  305. [01:53] <Jerry_Kat> But..seriously... It's childish. Very childish.
  306. [01:54] <Timon> ...
  307. [01:54] <boodie> childish is joining, getting kicked, rejoining and ad nauseam, and that was Timon in ozfurs
  308. [01:54] <Timon> You all know i registered it first, there should be no issue here.
  309. [01:54] <Lymril> Sure, Timon did register the channel first, but if he's banned from the furmeet then
  310. why should he be founder of the channel concerning it?
  311. [01:54] <ZetaWolf> ok do you guys want to bicker or get this fixed?
  312. [01:54] <Dimruthien> id like it fixed please.
  313. [01:54] <Jerry_Kat> I've only known Timon for 6 months, but from my experiences he is a good guy.
  314. [01:54] <ZetaWolf> Its Aussie's channel.
  315. [01:54] <Timon> No.. i registered it first zeta.
  316. [01:54] <Timon> its not aussies
  317. [01:54] <ZetaWolf> Timon has had problmes off and on in the Oz community
  318. [01:55] <ZetaWolf> Timon I think I've actually warned you to lay off recently.. am I correct?
  319. [01:55] * Timon has been a fur for Years, with the ozfurs.
  320. [01:55] <Timon> i have layed off, not my fault i lost founder while sitting there idleling tho
  321. [01:55] <Dimruthien> so have the rest of us, but we earned our right to be in the channel. its a privaledge
  322. [01:55] <Hurga> For the record: I still think it's Timon's channel. But if he gets akilled for troublemaking... well.
  323. [01:55] <ZetaWolf> I don't think the channel is yours rightly Timon, as I know you are/have been banned
  324. from serveral of the Oz channels/events
  325. [01:55] <Dimruthien> and many people have been inconvienced because of the lockdown of #ozfurs
  326. [01:56] <boodie> yah, the constant having people to ask to join is a pain
  327. [01:56] <Timon> Yeah Including me, just remove my bans and let me be
  328. [01:56] <Jerry_Kat> Inconvenienced? *Laughs*
  329. [01:56] <ZetaWolf> I'm just goin on what I've seen and delt with.
  330. [01:57] <AussieHusky> Hurga ZetaWolf Can we have Timon Akilled please? The Furnet rules state ban evasion
  331. is a serious breach of the rules and he has done it hundreds of times to the point where one of our channels
  332. is almost dead, and the other has been forced into +I for a month and is still going
  333. [01:57] <ZetaWolf> Just hold your pants on
  334. [01:57] <AussieHusky> He has also threatened phsyical violence against several members of SydFurs
  335. [01:57] <ZetaWolf> You cannot keep him out of the rooms with a standard channel ban?
  336. [01:57] <Timon> Aussie, thats bull, i never threatend anyone, tho i have got a few threats from other furs.
  337. [01:57] <ZetaWolf> Timon Shut up for a moment
  338. [01:57] <ZetaWolf> (being nice didn't work) :)
  339. [01:58] * Dimruthien gives ZetaWolf a comforting pat
  340. [01:58] <boodie> ZetaWolf: ask Rally the amount of trouble it took to actually get something that would
  341. stop him from joining under multiple names and from alls sorts of places
  342. [01:58] <Dimruthien> he dns jumps
  343. [01:58] <Dimruthien> i cant keep him out of ozfurx and sydfurs
  344. [01:58] <Dimruthien> im kbing him a few times a day
  345. [01:59] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf no he uses other machines and different nicks
  346. [01:59] <ZetaWolf> I would need the channel owners to make mention and if he evaded the bans I would either
  347. warn or remove
  348. [01:59] <AussieHusky> Every Op in ozfurs has banned him 20+ times
  349. [01:59] <Dimruthien> the channel founder of sydfurs is currently not home, i am the second-in-charge
  350. [01:59] * AussieHusky nods
  351. [01:59] <AussieHusky> Dimruthien and I are both Aops in Ozfurs
  352. [01:59] <Dimruthien> and RallyAway is the founder of ozfurx and ozfurs
  353. [01:59] * AussieHusky nods
  354. [02:00] <Dimruthien> and boodie is an admin
  355. [02:00] <AussieHusky> Im a Sop in Ozfetishfurs
  356. [02:00] <ZetaWolf> Timon: I have a question
  357. [02:00] <Timon> Yes Zeta
  358. [02:00] <ZetaWolf> Why do you register a channel for an event you are banned from??
  359. [02:00] <Timon> i didn't even know i was banned till 4pm today
  360. [02:00] <Timon> 8 hrs ago
  361. [02:00] <AussieHusky> All channels which he has seriously killed off because of the security measures we
  362. have had to implement, We put Ozfurs in +R and he just keeps registering new nicks to get in
  363. [02:00] <Timon> and im not banned, it was just some text crap
  364. [02:01] <ZetaWolf> so all the sudden you come on.. and your banned and such?
  365. [02:01] <ZetaWolf> for no reason?
  366. [02:01] * AussieHusky didnt ban anyone until 11:15 pm?
  367. [02:01] <Timon> i got a email stateing i was banned, from someone.
  368. [02:01] <AussieHusky> oh
  369. [02:01] <Timon> furjam ban
  370. [02:01] <Timon> the event
  371. [02:01] <AussieHusky> He got an email from the original founder of FurJam
  372. [02:01] <AussieHusky> Which you denied getting I might point out
  373. [02:01] <Timon> Yeah, or someone using his details
  374. [02:01] <Timon> No, i got it quite late
  375. [02:01] <Timon> then you gave it to me again
  376. [02:01] <Dimruthien> we can ask anakaine for confirmation that it was sent
  377. [02:02] <AussieHusky> Timon I have his mobile number, I have spoken with him several times
  378. [02:02] <Timon> i got it in the end ok.
  379. [02:02] <Timon> i got it to
  380. [02:02] <AussieHusky> I got a BCC of it
  381. [02:02] <ZetaWolf> Ok wait lets not get into RL shit for now
  382. [02:02] <ZetaWolf> lets keep it to this channel and whos it is
  383. [02:02] <ZetaWolf> please
  384. [02:02] <Timon> k
  385. [02:02] <ZetaWolf> you all need to settle your RL differances RL
  386. [02:02] <ZetaWolf> :)
  387. [02:02] <Timon> anyway i registered the Channel what, awhile back, sure u can check when.
  388. [02:03] <Timon> and it was not registered before then.
  389. [02:03] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf: Not sure if you remember, But Ive brought these problems with timon to you before
  390. [02:03] * RallyAway catches up on all the dross before saying anything.
  391. [02:03] <ZetaWolf> Ok, Timon, I do know that you've had issues in the community before and I don't think
  392. these people are going to lie and risk being removed from the network just to spite you.. if that makes sense.
  393. [02:03] <Dimruthien> morning rally *sigh*
  394. [02:03] <ZetaWolf> yes AussieHusky you have plus I know you know better than to lie to me :)
  395. [02:03] <boodie> hello Rally
  396. [02:04] <Timon> well we all know who registered the channel first, i still fail to see why there is so
  397. much much fuss about a small matter
  398. [02:04] <Dimruthien> because you made it a large one, timon
  399. [02:04] <ZetaWolf> because if you registerd it in spite of then that isn't going to fly
  400. [02:04] <Timon> no i just came here to get my founder back. simple
  401. [02:05] <Timon> No, i registered it before i even knew i was apparently banned from it...
  402. [02:05] <Dimruthien> and all your other actions have caught up, im afraid
  403. [02:05] <ZetaWolf> I don't think it was rightfully yours
  404. [02:05] <Timon> other actions have nothing to do with what im doing here ok.
  405. [02:05] <Timon> it was not registered before hand.
  406. [02:05] <ZetaWolf> You've had numerous complaints about harassment of these people
  407. [02:05] <ZetaWolf> You evade bans
  408. [02:05] <Timon> They place bans for no reason at all.
  409. [02:05] <ZetaWolf> or otherwise come on to channels you know very well you are not welcome on
  410. [02:05] * AussieHusky grins, Has seen zeta when his angry... not a good place to be
  411. [02:05] <Timon> no i go to local channels acause im part of the fandom
  412. [02:05] <ZetaWolf> Thats not up to you to decide my friend
  413. [02:06] <ZetaWolf> the owner of the channel and the people they put in charge decide who is allowed on a
  414. channel for what reason
  415. [02:06] <Timon> Ok, ill remember that for my Channel #Furjam then.
  416. [02:06] * Dimruthien beats her head against a brickwall.
  417. [02:06] <ZetaWolf> Its not your channel.
  418. [02:06] <Timon> i registered it.
  419. [02:07] <Timon> it was never registered before
  420. [02:07] <ZetaWolf> I think you did this out of spite
  421. [02:07] <Timon> ie, mine
  422. [02:07] <ZetaWolf> your registeration is decline
  423. [02:07] <Timon> No i did not, look at the registration date
  424. [02:07] <ZetaWolf> ie not yours
  425. [02:07] <Timon> it was approoved before.
  426. [02:07] <ZetaWolf> understand?
  427. [02:07] <Timon> No i don't
  428. [02:07] <AussieHusky> This is the problem we keep having though, He dosent listen to the fact that he is
  429. upsetting people by being there, he thinks because his australian that gives him unlimited access to any
  430. australian room no matter how badly he behaves
  431. [02:07] <ZetaWolf> because no one knew what you were doing and the reason you did it.
  432. [02:07] <Timon> you oviously got the wrong end of the stick zeta.
  433. [02:08] <ZetaWolf> and you obviously don't understand.
  434. [02:08] <Lymril> Timon: there is no reason you should own #FurJam when the channel is about a furmeet from
  435. which you have been banned. Even if rightfully registered to you, then you should surrender it to someone
  436. who is an organizer of the furmeet.
  437. [02:08] <Hurga> ZetaWolf: We can't really check the reasons why someone registers a channel here. And we
  438. shouldn't go into this.
  439. [02:08] <Timon> well your not open to listen to me Zeta
  440. [02:08] <Timon> i should still regain ops in the said channel, and not be kicked and banned from it.
  441. [02:08] <Timon> *Retain
  442. [02:09] <ZetaWolf> Hurga: I do know there was a on going problem with this user for harassing these very
  443. ame people. And I think registering their channel was a way to cause a problem
  444. [02:09] <Dimruthien> why, timon?
  445. [02:09] <Timon> Cause banning me for nothing is bloody stupid
  446. [02:09] <Dimruthien> why should you have ops in a channel about a furmeet from which you are banned?
  447. [02:09] <Dimruthien> it doesnt make logical sense
  448. [02:09] <AussieHusky> Its not nothing!
  449. [02:09] <AussieHusky> The stuff you have done is nuts o.o
  450. [02:10] <ZetaWolf> Timon: this is where you are not understanding
  451. [02:10] <Timon> im not banned from the dam meet im a fur ok, they have refused to give me the propper
  452. paper work prooving they banned me. so NOT BANNED
  453. [02:10] <ZetaWolf> If they don't want you on their channel for any reason thats all the reason you need.
  454. [02:10] <Lymril> Keep in mind that even if given ops it is the Founder's decision whether or not you keep s
  455. aid ops or even remain in the channel.
  456. [02:10] <Timon> wel i am the founder at the moment
  457. [02:10] <AussieHusky> The mess we have had to put #ozfurs in just to keep you out... We have to have an
  458. aop in there at all times just to let people in and keep you out
  459. [02:10] <Timon> maybe u should just let me be and u won't have any problems?..
  460. [02:11] <Dimruthien> people are going upwards of an hour without an invite in ozfurs because we cant
  461. be there all the time
  462. [02:11] <boodie> Timon: in case you werent reading, the main activities at furjam are being held in
  463. prebooked private areas, from which you are banned from attending.
  464. [02:11] <Timon> remove the bans, remove invite only, and you will not have any problems. simple
  465. [02:12] <Timon> No problem i work at those places at times i can get the bans lifted, so ill come
  466. along and we will have a good idea, cool?
  467. [02:12] <AussieHusky> Timon: There are three AVO's on there way to you, You have been given written
  468. legal notice that it is a private function and you are not welcome, I will also be speaking with the
  469. private clubs, and the private parks we have booked, Im sure the Zoo would have no issue keeping you out
  470. if we tell them what is happening. So you have the police, The owners, and a whorde of people willing to
  471. throw you in the harbour if you turn up.
  472. [02:12] <Dimruthien> they are -privately- booked, timon. you cannot get in, regardless of any
  473. affiliation you have
  474. [02:12] <ZetaWolf> Look
  475. [02:13] <Timon> i might be working there on those days...
  476. [02:13] <Timon> and AVO's your full of it i have not got any avos
  477. [02:13] <Timon> to get avo u got to take me to court FIRST
  478. [02:13] <Timon> i have no court summons
  479. [02:13] <ZetaWolf> You guys need to work out the rest of this stuff off this channel
  480. [02:13] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf is right, Lets get this sorted out first
  481. [02:13] <Timon> ok, May i please have my channel back so i can be on my way.
  482. [02:14] <Dimruthien> it -is- sorted, aussie. timon just refuses to accept the terms.
  483. [02:14] <Timon> its not sorted yet
  484. [02:14] <AussieHusky> Okay, Onto the next matter of business
  485. [02:14] <AussieHusky> K-lining Timon from the network
  486. [02:14] <Timon> lol, you can't K-Line me for something i didn't do
  487. [02:15] <ZetaWolf> You've harassed people and ban evaded numerous times
  488. [02:15] <Hurga> I think we've seen a sufficient amount of complaints...
  489. [02:15] * AussieHusky can provide several logs, and testiemonies from people on ban evasion, Physical
  490. threats, and being a general asshole, Including the founders and sops of the channels
  491. [02:15] <ZetaWolf> AussieHusky: shh for a moment :)
  492. [02:15] * AussieHusky will be good >.>
  493. [02:15] <Timon> you know ur making my life worse aussie? heh
  494. [02:16] <ZetaWolf> sorry to sound rude
  495. [02:16] <ZetaWolf> but we don't care right now.
  496. [02:16] <Timon> well oviously heh
  497. [02:16] <RallyAway> ...still readng btw. and hi folks... geez you lot go on and on *ducks and hides* :)
  498. [02:16] * Dimruthien chokes on a laugh
  499. [02:16] <boodie> rally: gee you're slow 8-)
  500. [02:16] <Lymril> This is almost like running FurServ again.
  501. [02:16] <Dimruthien> RallyAway: im sleep depped and ticked off and wired. im the energizer bunny.
  502. [02:16] <ZetaWolf> Do you care when you cause problems on channels and I have to sort things out?
  503. [02:16] <ZetaWolf> Anyhow
  504. [02:17] <ZetaWolf> I
  505. [02:17] <ZetaWolf> er
  506. [02:17] <Dimruthien> i feel -really- sorry for Lymril, Hurga and ZetaWolf right now.
  507. [02:17] * AussieHusky nods
  508. [02:17] <Dimruthien> it must feel like playgroup with 3 year olds
  509. [02:17] <ZetaWolf> Pfft its not a problem this is mild :p
  510. [02:17] <Dimruthien> id hate to see dramatic
  511. [02:17] <RallyAway> ..and btw, Timon loves this kind of attention and is probably logging everything so he can
  512. brag about it later on, but you already know this.
  513. [02:17] <Dimruthien> yeah we dont care!
  514. [02:17] * Dimruthien waves picket sign
  515. [02:17] <Timon> its going to be a killer on my printer Rally
  516. [02:17] <ZetaWolf> thats why I believe he and this network are going to part ways
  517. [02:17] * AussieHusky is sure it will be up on his server by tonight
  518. [02:17] <boodie> ZetaWolf can do this with one paw tied behind his back
  519. [02:18] <RallyAway> ...and catching up on something... "[00:11] <Timon> remove the bans, remove invite only,
  520. and you will not have any problems. simple" in reply...: No. You are permanently banned and that will not
  521. change. Get used to it. If you keep trying to ban evade I will just keep us in invite only mode.
  522. [02:18] <Dimruthien> lol zeta
  523. [02:19] <Timon> i shouldn't even be banned in the first place rally.
  524. [02:19] <Dimruthien> i dont mind invite only tbh. i just wish there was an easier way
  525. [02:19] <AussieHusky> Despite the gross inconvenience keeping us in +i is causing
  526. [02:19] <ZetaWolf> is their channel their choice
  527. [02:19] * Timon shrugs
  528. [02:19] <ZetaWolf> anyhow I've seen you evade bans and contiune to harass users
  529. [02:20] <AussieHusky> dimmie: If it wasnt for timon we could add TPG to the white list and that would solve
  530. a few of our remaining inviters
  531. [02:20] * Hendikins has joined #furnet
  532. [02:20] <Timon> manage to catch my ip to Zeta?.
  533. [02:20] <Dimruthien> does anyone else get the sensation that this discussion is going around in circles?
  534. [02:20] <ZetaWolf> yes
  535. [02:20] <RallyAway> ... reminds me, yes I have logs, going back to 1999 for #OzFurs, barring a slight mishap
  536. where I lost about 4 or 5 months in a HDD failure. Almost constant 24/7.
  537. [02:20] * AussieHusky knows he has explained this a hundred times..
  538. [02:20] <Dimruthien> oh good. i thought it was the sausage i ate for dinner.
  539. [02:20] <AussieHusky> I have logs of when he pulled the same thing in Ozfetishfurs
  540. [02:21] <Dimruthien> but rally has a life *nods*
  541. [02:21] <Timon> i was a op there for years Aussie
  542.  
  543. [02:21] Closing Link: Timon[60-240-201-253.tpgi.com.au] (User has been banned from FurNet (Timon Akilled for harassment))
  544.  
  545. [02:20] <ZetaWolf> Ok
  546. * Retrieving #furnet modes...
  547. [02:21] <AussieHusky> yeah until the amount of drama you caused got you banned
  548. [02:21] <ZetaWolf> problem solved
  549. [02:21] <ZetaWolf> anything else?
  550. [02:21] <Hurga> Yes, drop his nick regs.
  551. [02:21] <ZetaWolf> I get tired of hearing him argue with everything
  552. [02:21] <AussieHusky> No offence, But how likely is that Akill to hold him?
  553. [02:21] <Dimruthien> oh thank god for that
  554. [02:21] <AussieHusky> He logs in through unsecure machines overseas
  555. [02:22] <Jerry_Kat> RIP Timon BOOOOO! BOOOOOO! Shame on you, Furnet.
  556. [02:22] <ZetaWolf> hehe yeah
  557. [02:22] <AussieHusky> ZetaWolf he dosent, He uses Tosca Rabid_racoon
  558. [02:22] <ZetaWolf> and trust me these aussie will let us know
  559. [02:22] <AussieHusky> Timon_b
  560. [02:22] <AussieHusky> Squirril_boi
  561. [02:23] <ZetaWolf> and someone teach him to spell "obviously"
  562. [02:23] <ZetaWolf> Is there anything else I can help you folks with?
  563.  
  564. [02:23] <RallyAway> yay! bottom of the buffer.. and damn, missed all the fun
  565. [02:24] <Hurga> RallyAway: Problem got solved ok?
  566. [02:24] * AussieHusky hugs ZetaWolf... Not exactly the best way to meet up again
  567. [02:24] <ZetaWolf> lol
  568. [02:24] <ZetaWolf> you know where to find me
  569. [02:25] <boodie> with that i notes that its almost 2.30 am and my bed calls, thank
  570. you kind sirs/madams/assorted furs for fixing this
  571. [02:25] <Dimruthien> i feel embarassed
  572.  
  573. [02:26] <Jerry_Kat> This is an outrage. How dare you ban Timon. He was a model fur,
  574. you should should all be ashamed of yourselves.
  575.  
  576. [02:26] <RallyAway> shoo folks! let sleeping furres lie and all that stuff! Out, out! Back to #OzFurs....
  577. [02:26] <Hurga> Again, I need to emphasize that point... I don't want to start channel regs
  578. for RL issues. They're first come first serve. It was Timon's channel. As long as he was here.
  579. [02:26] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat Im 99% sure you are timon
  580. [02:26] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat Im 99% sure you are timon
  581. [02:26] <RallyAway> Oh, and how much you wanna bet this Jerry_Kat is Timon since noone knows him.
  582. [02:26] <boodie> the cats want me to turn off the lights, so i shall
  583. [02:26] <Hurga> I don't want to start evaluating channel regs for RL issues, I mean.
  584. [02:26] <Jerry_Kat> Well I'm afraid your method of calculation has failed you.
  585. [02:27] * boodie (~teddieboo@220-253-138-120.TAS.netspace.net.au) has left #furnet
  586. [02:27] <RallyAway> understandable.
  587.  
  588. [02:27] <AussieHusky> Jerry_Kat: Thats what timon always says
  589.  
  590. [02:37] Closing Link: Jerry_Kat[72.41.194.203.dial.dynamic.acc01-wick-bne.comindico.com.au]
  591. (User has been banned from FurNet (Timon: Akill evasion go away))
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