Lesta Nediam LNC2016-02-13 2200 +chloogleizded

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-02-13 2200 +chloogleizded
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+chloogleizded __ What on _God's flat Earth_ are you talking about? *Everyone knows that for a long time "Learn of the Jesuit Order" ("LOTJO") had been posting anti "ISS" videos. That is one of the main things he had built his name and reputation on. Just recently he posted a video that is less than 2 minutes in duration and in it claims the "ISS" is real and that he was wrong.*


He also removed or hid all of his "ISS" videos. Are you really objecting to this as being characterised as a "sudden turnaround"?! If what has happened isn't a "sudden turnaround" (according to you) then I'd love to know what you think is! Do you even realise that "LOTJO" was making fun of the "ISS" up until only recently?


You are being overly antagonistic and unnecessarily aggressive toward me because you are under the influence of "Jeff C" ("NWA" / "New World Agenda"). You have been listening to a person who wants you to believe that I am also John le Bon (JLB) [or somehow associated/connected to him] and somehow involved in a "Psy-Op" to make "truthers look bad". If you believe I am some kind of "auto-hoaxer" then you have been listening to the wrong people. By the way, "Jeff C" has called far more events "fake" and "hoaxes" than I ever have. Is it really fair to call another person an auto-hoaxer just because they disagree about an event? Does that mean YOU agree with EVERYTHING "Jeff C" says? Because if you don't then how are YOU not an "auto-hoaxer"?!


You - and most of the audience of "Jeff C" - have heard only one side of the story about me. *You have never talked to me (I don't know of you outside of this thread). You don't know me and you have evidently accepted without question a bad and false impression of me.* Yet I am not writing anything controversial and there is no need for your overly skeptical and aggressive style with me. *I am making an effort to communicate with you.* I would guess that just on this thread I have written more to you than "Jeff C" has ever written to you. *I have likely spent more time and effort on you than "Jeff C" has - and I am doing this even though you are evidently against me.* How much time and effort do you think "Jeff C" would bother to spend on those he is against?


What has happened with "Learn of the Jesuit Order" and his flip with regard to the alleged "ISS" should be of interest to everyone for several reasons.


1. Was it the case that "LOTJO" had gradually shifted over to a belief the "ISS" was real? Or did he go from calling it fake in one video and then the next video calling it real? It would seem it wasn't gradual but instead quite rapid. (I.e., making fun of it one week and then taking it all back the next.)


2. Aren't you at all curious as to what actually caused "LOTJO" to diametrically change his position? I know I am and so are a lot of other people. There are a lot of people who call BS on the alleged "ISS". *If "Learn of the Jesuit Order" could change his position then perhaps his experience can be used to help other people. How can you possibly be against that?* It's as though you are auto-rejecting and auto-hating everything I write. Even though I am asking questions that are on the minds of many people. Are you really going to look for ways to resent me because of that?!


3. *And there is something else you may not have considered. Given that "LOTJO" has a clever sense of humour it is always possible that he has done this as a prank.* It is completely out of character for him to have gone from making fun of the "ISS" to now claiming it is real. *And so maybe he heard "Jeff C" talking about it and decided to prank him.* You have to admit - it would be a pretty good prank! And if it's a prank then "Jeff C" has been sucked in hook, line and sinker. *How do you know it isn't a prank?* _It seems like something "LOTJO" would do._


If that's what this is - a prank - then "Jeff C" is going to look stupid, ridiculous and gullible if "LOTJO" were to subsequently post a funny video making fun of how gullible people are (especially "Jeff C"). *The only way to know whether it is a joke/prank or not is if we hear some kind of follow-up.* Given what we know about "LOTJO" and his history of calling the "ISS" BS and given his unique brand of humour - *it is safe to assume that "LOTJO" isn't serious about his position flip.* You can't rule out the possibility of it being a prank.

PS. If you have a problem with me - *then that's your problem.* I don't know who you are. You have never made an effort to talk to me or understand what I am saying. *You have been relentlessly negative and unnecessarily aggressive with everything I have written on this thread.* I don't appreciate it though you probably feel justified in being rude to me because "Jeff C" has painted a negative picture of me.


"Jeff C" has cleverly given you someone to hate. It's okay for you to hate on another person if "Jeff C" tells you it's okay - yeah? He has dehumanised me. *He has made you believe I am working for some "intelligence agency". That I am some kind of "cognitive infiltrator". That I am carrying out a "Psy-Op" on people like yourself.* Well - if ANY of those things were true then you would be justified in hating on me. *But NONE of those things are true.* None at all. I am none of those things.


*If you believe I am any of those things then it is only because you are choosing to believe them.* What is your evidence for believing those things? I guess if you accept the positional flip of "LOTJO" and you don't care about why he flipped - then you are someone who doesn't need evidence or proof. Yet isn't "Jeff C" in practically every video also telling his audience that people need to "research" and not make judgments based on emotions?


The reason you hate on me is because *you are a bully and you want someone to bully.* "Jeff C" has presented me to you as someone to hate and bully and the fact you are doing it means he has successfully manipulated you.


*If "Jeff C" is doing all the thinking and making all of the decisions for you then I pity you.* Such a person is pitiable. *On the other hand - if you have a genuine objection to me then say what it is.* If you disagree with me about something then talk to me about it - perhaps you have not understood my position. Perhaps you will be able to persuade me about something. But that can never happen if you won't talk to me or treat me like a human being. *Shame on you.*


Despite what is said about me - I'm not a bad person and I categorically do not tell lies. I have made mistakes - sure. I have been misunderstood - sure. But I have never intentionally asserted X while believing Not-X. I have never intentionally asserted Not-X while believing X. Whereas your boy "Jeff C" is routinely doing that. Search my channel for "Jeff C" and you will find examples where he has been caught doing just that.


*If you have a bad impression of me then don't be surprised it has been created by bad people who are either jealous or worried about me.* If I am a nobody then why would someone like "Jeff C" dedicate hours and hours to poisoning the well and ridiculing me? Given your reaction to me his ploy has worked. It is clear that "Jeff C" feels threatened by me and there is a good reason for it. *Because I am not here to make any friends - _rather_ - I am here to clean out the rot from YouTube.*



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Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's posts, comments, videos and discussions:
https://pastebin.com/Bfr5RMSg

Here is Lesta Nediam's Google Plus posts (i.e., blog) - this is where Lesta is most active:
https://plus.google.com/+LestaNediamHQ

Here is an annotated text file with links to all of Lesta Nediam's video uploads:
https://pastebin.com/WV42jUb1

Here is Lesta Nediam's YouTube channel - for videos about the lie system:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3DalBOEZ6RqSyHk8_mGV7w