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Okay here goes. Reposting three comments from the previous LIVE LIVE LIVE Thread.

Oh man, there’s so much to write about after this one. Lots of improvement needed, to be quite frankly honest. Okay, here’s the first thing and it’s a strategy/tactics thing.

Kirk literally always answers the question by saying “Can I ask you a question?”. The reason that he does that is to send you down a logic chain. So for instance if you bring up how the Founding Fathers of America passed the Naturalization Act of 1790 (that question was super terribly worded btw) the first question back at you he’s going to ask is “What do YOU define as an American?”. He’s been trained to say that because it puts you on the spot first of all, and secondly it forces you to either explicitly say “white people blah blah” or “I don’t know”. STOP LETTING HIM ASK YOU ANY FUCKING QUESTIONS.

You need to get it through your head that you have every disadvantage*. He has been prepared for your questions and he gets to talk last. On top of that, the second you say something bad, he gets to say his gay little “thank you, good night” bit, which means even if he’s getting BTFO’d the whole time the second you screw up he gets to end the conversation.

When he says, “Can I ask you a question” you NEED TO SAY “No, answer the question”, or some variant thereof. I hate to say this but you are not trained in this, and it’s not a real debate anyway, as I said earlier. The only thing you control is the subject matter, so don’t let him change the fucking subject, ever. Even if you think you are a literally top 1% verbal IQ genius, you’re probably not, and nobody is all that great when feeling the pressure at age 19. I certainly wasn’t, you probably aren’t either.

Example of how some questions should have gone. Taken from Anglin.

You: “Charlie, you and your lackeys have smeared Nick Fuentes, and America First conservatives, as ‘White Supremacists’ and ‘Nazis’ for wanting to maintain a European majority in America. But in 1790, our Founding Fathers wrote the 1790 Naturalization Act, signed by George Washington himself, that restricted immigration and citizenship to ‘free White people of good character.’ So, are you calling our Founding Fathers ‘White Supremacists’ and ‘Nazis’?”

Charlie: “Can I ask you a question?”

You: No, I would like an answer.

At this point, he’s still going to change the subject, but now he looks like a tool for doing so.

*Every disadvantage except subject matter, which he can and will change if you let him.

Okay, future improvement part 2.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say this again. Stop asking them questions like “how will the Republicans win elections with mass non-white migration blah blah” or “these non-whites don’t share our values so how do you propose making them do so blah blah”. Okay, there’s a lot of things wrong with this line of attack. One Groyper had a slightly better variant on this which is “you’ve talked about black unemployment, hispanic unemployment blah blah, yet white unemployment has gone up by 3% under Trump. Why is the Republican party ignoring their white voters when they make up 90% of Trumps voter base, and are very important in elections blah blah? Why aren’t you even mentioning us?”.

Okay, I really liked some of this question, but he’s still validating the Republican Party. First of all, fuck the Republican Party. If you want to say fuck the current Republican Party, fine, but fuck the current Republican Party then. The problem with Trump and Kirk and all these faggots explicitly advocating for *insertNonWhiteGroupHere but not White People isn’t because White People are important because voting patterns blah blah. It’s bad in and of itself. When you ask Kirk questions you need to have the attitude of “prove to me you fucking faggot that you’re advocating for me as a White Person”.

A much better version of the Groypers question:

You: “Charlie, you have set up here at TPUSA a black students chapter, a hispanic students chapter, blah blah. Yet, you have not only not set up a Young White Leaders chapter, but have in fact explicitly attacked white advocates such as Nick Fuentes, Identity Europa, and others whom you smear with anti-white leftist smears of “white supremacists, nazis, etcetera”. Why should any White Person support an anti-white organization like yours, and what are White People getting out of this?”

Charlie: “Can I ask you a question?”

You: “No, answer my question.”

That’s how it should go. MAKE THEM EXPLICITLY TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE NOT YOUR ADVOCATE. This is especially good if you explicitly make them say that they are the advocates for other racial groups.

A similar thing happened with the homosexuality question. I can’t remember it exactly, but it was something like “why are you promoting homosexuality in the conservative movement?” This question was decent, and thanks to the Groyper who said it. The real problem was that he failed the first rule which is don’t let Kirk ask you questions. However, a much better version of that question:

You: “As a Christian who supports Christian values I am personally angered by seeing you promoting Sodomy and transgenderism and who is against traditional families Why should I support someone who isn’t doing anything for me?”

Charlie: “Can I ask you a question?”

You: “No, answer the question”

Again, frame the debate as them proving to you that they are your advocates. They’ll either explicitly say they won’t or retreat to talking points, but that’s a big win.

I agree with this. They should have just asked the question as Anglin wrote it here. Other versions are okay, but Anglin’s version as is was fine. And keep the question on topic. Example of how that would look:

You: “Charlie, you have repeated the claim that America was founded as a ‘nation of ideas,’ and not a nation of race. But in 1790, our Founding Fathers wrote the 1790 Naturalization Act, signed by George Washington himself, that restricted immigration and citizenship to ‘free White people of good character.’ So, it sounds like America WAS founded on an idea, Charlie. It was founded on the idea that America was intended to be a White European country.”

Charlie: “Can I ask you a question?”

You: “No, answer my question thank you.”

For the record, I actually like Anglin’s last version of this question best, since I think it has the most bite:

“1790 Naturalization Act, Charlie. “White persons of good character” can be made citizens. No one else. It was signed by George Washington. Why do you hate our Founding Fathers, Charlie? Why have you called them evil? How can you possibly represent anything other than treason with these vicious attacks on the foundations of this country?”

This questions works better because it explicitly makes Charlie explain that he thinks that, yes, George Washington was a ‘Nazi’, and so on. Personally, I just think straight up asking him, “Do you think that George Washington was also a White Supremacist, a White Identarian, and a ‘Nazi’ for wanting a Whites only country?”