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  1. Bomb Shop Trip Skip 100% Chu Count (English and JP)
  2.  
  3. * Scroll all the way down for updated JP Bomb Shop Trip Skip Chu Route
  4.  
  5.  
  6. English (Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip Skip):
  7.  
  8. Night 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  9. Woodfall Temple (isg mega + 2 chus) 18c
  10. STT (petrie flip OR weirdshot) 17c
  11. ISTT 13c
  12. Ikana Scrub HP (isg mega + 3 chus) 10c
  13. Chu Recoil after Scrub HP 9c
  14. FFAE 5c
  15. Scarecrow HP (isg mega + 2-3 chus) 2c (at least 2 spare chus, maybe 3 if can do scarecrow with 2)
  16. (possible to skip petrie flip if you don't try fast FFAE)
  17.  
  18. Night 2 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  19. GBT 16c (goron, superswim, mega + ledge grab)
  20. Sakon's Hideout 9c
  21. Dampe 8c
  22. Mountain HP 1c (1 spare chu, might be good to use for hover to teeter totter room in GBT)
  23.  
  24.  
  25. ---
  26.  
  27. JP (Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip Skip):
  28.  
  29. Same as English except save another chu in STT, so will have 3-4 spare, might be able to do sidehop FFAE. Otherwise can skip petrie flip
  30.  
  31.  
  32. ---
  33.  
  34. JP (Night 2 Bomb Shop Trip Skip):
  35.  
  36. Night 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  37. Woodfall Temple (isg mega + 2 chus) 18c
  38. STT (petrie flip OR weirdshot) 17c
  39. ISTT 14c
  40. FFAE 10c
  41. Scarecrow HP 7c (2 chus might be possible, but assuming 3)
  42. GBT 3c (3-4 spare chus; use these for fast hover to teeter totter room)
  43.  
  44. Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  45. Sakon's Hideout 13c
  46. Ikana Scrub HP 8c (sign isg + chus; no mega strat)
  47. Dampe 7c
  48. Mountain HP 0c
  49.  
  50.  
  51. ===
  52.  
  53.  
  54. JP (Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip Skip with Hover Turnkey Skip and Early Mountain HP)
  55.  
  56.  
  57. Day 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  58. Mega Hidden Owl 11c
  59. Swamp Gossips Grotto AE 6c (skulltula hover, bomb on root)
  60. Sonata 4c (bean before sonata saves 2 chus, pretty much breaks even so not worth it)
  61. Mountain HP (1 bomb + 7 chus ideally) 0c
  62. (Ideally would like to save chus on sonata hover and maybe even hidden owl)
  63.  
  64. Night 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  65. Woodfall Temple (isg mega + 2 chus) 18c
  66. STT (petrie flip OR weirdshot) 17c
  67. ISTT 14c
  68. Ikana Scrub HP (isg mega + 3 chus) 11c
  69. Chu Recoil after Scrub HP 10c
  70. FFAE 6c
  71. Scarecrow HP (isg mega + 2-3 chus) 3c (at least 3 spare chus, maybe 4 if can do scarecrow with 2)
  72. (possible to skip petrie flip/weirdshot if you don't try fast FFAE)
  73.  
  74. Night 2 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  75. GBT 8c (goron, 6 for hover turnkey skip, 2 for bubbles, 4 for teeter totter hover)
  76. Sakon's Hideout 1c (if dampe first route is faster, can use extra chu for turnkey skip)
  77. Dampe 0c
  78.  
  79.  
  80. ===
  81.  
  82.  
  83. JP (Night 2 Bomb Shop Trip Skip with Hover Turnkey Skip):
  84.  
  85. Night 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  86. Woodfall Temple (bomb + mega) 20c
  87. STT (petrie flip OR weirdshot) 19c
  88. ISTT 16c
  89. FFAE 12c
  90. Scarecrow HP 12c (bomb + bomb + mega)
  91. GBT 0c (goron, 2 for bubbles, 6 for turnkey, 4 for teeter)
  92.  
  93. Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  94. Sakon's Hideout 13c
  95. Ikana Scrub HP 8c (sign isg + chus; no mega strat)
  96. Dampe 7c
  97. Mountain HP 0c
  98.  
  99. Night 2 Skip and Day 3 Skip (both with Hover Turnkey Skip) appear to be about the same speed, but Night 2 is probably easier.
  100.  
  101.  
  102. Skipping Night 2 bomb shop trip saves about 21s in current route. (Used Trev 4:54:59 and Trev 4:53)
  103.  
  104. We need to time how much is lost in GBT, scarecrow, and woodfall.
  105.  
  106.  
  107.  
  108. ===
  109.  
  110.  
  111. ENG (Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip Skip with Hover Turnkey Skip and Early Mountain HP)
  112.  
  113.  
  114. Day 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  115. Mega Hidden Owl 11c
  116. Swamp Gossips Grotto AE 6c (skulltula hover, bomb on root)
  117. Sonata (bean first so saves 2c) 6c (bean before sonata saves 2 chus, pretty much breaks even so not worth it)
  118. Mountain HP (1 bomb + 7 chus ideally) 0c (sub in 1 bomb OR staircase hidden owl to save a chu)
  119.  
  120.  
  121. Night 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  122. Woodfall Temple (isg mega + 2 chus) 18c
  123. STT (petrie flip OR weirdshot) 17c
  124. ISTT 13c
  125. Ikana Scrub HP (isg mega + 3 chus) 10c
  126. Chu Recoil after Scrub HP 9c
  127. FFAE 5c
  128. Scarecrow HP (isg mega + 2-3 chus) 2c (at least 2 spare chus, maybe 3 if can do scarecrow with 2)
  129. (possible to skip petrie flip/weirdshot if you don't try fast FFAE)
  130.  
  131. Night 2 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  132. GBT 7c (goron, 6 for hover turnkey skip, 2 for bubbles, 5 for teeter totter hover)
  133. Sakon's Hideout 0c (if dampe first route is faster, can use extra chu for turnkey skip)
  134. Dampe 0c Grave 3 First Route is faster and uses no chus
  135.  
  136.  
  137.  
  138. ct owl -> pool = 3:02:49.5 to 3:02:55.2 = 5.7 (trev 5:20:59)
  139.  
  140. Roughly 29.4s saved by skipping Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip (and WCT trip)
  141.  
  142. We lose time (probably) at mountain HP movement, 1 extra bomb in GBT (goron strat too), swamp gossips, prob lose about 5s? needs timing, but wouldn't be surprised if this saves 24s for english with staircase to hidden owl (20s+ is almost definitely true)
  143.  
  144.  
  145.  
  146.  
  147. =============================================================
  148. UPDATE: viable to quickly do superswim turnkey skip with 4 chus without subbing in any bombs assuming you do goron strat so you have to get isg again. 1 bomb + 2 chus to hover past pipe (have good position so chu doesn't stick to the pipe; people sub in bomb there a lot but it's not needed and is slower to do), then backflip oob and use 3rd chu, then pull bomb, do megasidehop, use chu, cutscene dive into tunnel. This is about same speed as strat that uses more chus.
  149.  
  150. GBT route now uses 11 Chus (goron strat, 2 for bubbles, 4 for hover turnkey skip, 5 for teeter hover)
  151.  
  152. =============================================================
  153.  
  154.  
  155. Updated JP (Night 2 Bomb Shop Trip Skip with Hover Turnkey Skip w/ megasidehop):
  156.  
  157. Night 1 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  158. Woodfall Temple (bomb + mega) 20c
  159. STT (petrie flip OR weirdshot) 19c
  160. ISTT 16c
  161. FFAE 12c
  162. Scarecrow HP 11c (bomb + chu + mega)
  163. GBT 0c (goron, 2 for bubbles, 4 for turnkey, 5 for teeter)
  164.  
  165. Day 3 Bomb Shop Trip 20c
  166. Sakon's Hideout 13c
  167. Ikana Scrub HP 8c (sign isg + chus; no mega strat)
  168. Dampe 7c
  169. Mountain HP 0c
  170.  
  171.  
  172.  
  173. Skipping Night 2 bomb shop trip saves about 21s in current route. (Used Trev 4:54:59 and Trev 4:53)
  174.  
  175. We need to calculate time lost in: Woodfall, Scarecrow HP
  176.  
  177.  
  178. Woodfall:
  179.  
  180. enter door -> bomb + mega -> enter gekko = ???
  181.  
  182. enter door -> isg mega + 2 chus -> enter gekko = ???
  183.  
  184. ---
  185.  
  186. (rough approximation because no good videos and no one wants to time anything):
  187. 1 bomb + 3 chus = 23.66 to 33.00 = 9.34 (ennopp 4:52)
  188. 1 bomb + mega = 10.41 (kyle any% bk skip comparison vid)
  189.  
  190. lose ~1s in woodfall, upper bound = 2s
  191.  
  192. (scarecrow rough timing because no good videos and no one wants to time anything):
  193.  
  194. 3 chu hovers ~ 3.6
  195. megaflip ~ 4.7
  196.  
  197. lose roughly 1s at scarecrow HP, upper bound = 2s
  198.  
  199.  
  200. based on rough timings, we save at least 17s and probably closer to 18-19s
  201.  
  202. ---
  203.  
  204.  
  205. Scarecrow HP:
  206.  
  207. pull bomb -> bomb hover + chu hover + mega -> get HP = ???
  208.  
  209. pull bomb -> isg mega + 3 chus -> get HP = ???
  210. (more typical strat) pull bomb -> bomb hover + 4 chu hovers -> get HP = ???
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