TheorymonToday at 8:44 AM
oh shoot sorry, I somehow didn't get alerted with this PM! What's up?
IkaToday at 10:07 AM
hey man, I thought Id ask you personally. There were kinda two things, the first is whether you could do snorlax. I don't want to be harsh but the QC council pretty much does very little to nothing asides from you and Marilli. I think if I had not asked for Marilli to be added onto QC, most of the stuff would be stuck at 1/2. This incidentally is probably going to be a problem with Marilli's TTar analysis, ironically him writing it instead of that random dude is worse because he's one of the two people who actually checks stuff, with the rest of QC doing 1-2 analyses the entire gen.

This leads me onto my second question, could you reconsider your decision not to add 1TP onto the QC team? He clearly has the game knowledge, he's on the VR for a start, the activity and would actually put in work for the tier, actually plays Gen 8 on both Cart and Showdown with topping scores on both, I think hes top 5 on showdown and like top 1000 or so on Cart atm (tho I could be wrong on the latter). I know there's probably some stupid politics behind this and it is nothing to do with his suitability which is clear as day as there always seems to be unfortunately in BSS, but can we actually put this asides focus on getting resources out for the tier.
TheorymonToday at 10:09 AM
For the former, Im not sure because I actually havent really used Snorlax all that much, I dont usually feel comfortable writing stuff for mons I havent used all that much (I mostly stuck to AV)
for the later though, yeah I've been thinking about that. I should note though that usually I dont like just adding people on whim, I usually ask some other QC people, and there were objections. However, we really need more QC people and hes probably our best shot atm tbh
(and also that was a while ago too so maybe minds have changed)
IkaToday at 10:10 AM
I mean, really if you want my personal opinion
And I dont know what happens behind the scenes
TheorymonToday at 10:11 AM
oh also for TTar, I'll totally give that a fuller check and stamp later lol
IkaToday at 10:13 AM
Someone (lets call him Cant Say) had a disagreement of the ordering of certain moves in one of the analysis threads (lets call this the Arcanine thread) and there was a debate about that. This is natural, even top 20 players in the world dont have the exact same opinions of stuff.
I just see it as pretty petty
TheorymonToday at 10:14 AM
Im sure people will be fine if I say this in the open at least
part of the inactivity
is that most of the C&C crew for BSS HATES the current analysis format lol
its part of why Ive been pushing for a change
IkaToday at 10:15 AM
I think personally that is bullshit, do you think I like C+C, the answer is no I dislike it which is why I boycotted participating in it last generation.
I do however understand the value of resources getting to people
TheorymonToday at 10:15 AM
I mean, most people dont like writing for something they hate lol
IkaToday at 10:15 AM
even in an imperfect system
TheorymonToday at 10:16 AM
in the end we're just hobyist writing pokemon guides, not professional writers getting paid
IkaToday at 10:16 AM
I feel like most people have just got other stuff going on, which is fair enough
TheorymonToday at 10:16 AM
if the writing format is not enjoyable, a lot of people are just gonna quit writing
of course, thats part of why Im pushing for shorter stuff atm (which is ironic considering my history with analyses lol)
IkaToday at 10:17 AM
I think a lot of the people on the QC dont play gen 8
which is your main issue
good players yes, but they dont actually play the tier and/or are inactive in general
Chemcoop, Demantoid and Noved for a start Ive never seen pick up SWSH either on showdown or cart
add charlotte to that list too
like this is me being a dick here, but Im not trying to say these guys are bad at the game
but I dont think its completely to do with the writing format
TheorymonToday at 10:19 AM
I dont even include the top 3 in the PMs anymore, in fact Demantoid was supposed to be removed lol. I should probably update that
Im not sure what happened to Charlotte though sadly
she was playing quite a bit early on then just fell off the face of the earth
IkaToday at 10:20 AM
Puff just doesnt sound like the sort of guy to respond to these things much, which is why it doesnt surprise me
the rest have either lots going on, or have their foibles with the gen
TheorymonToday at 10:20 AM
Greil unfortunately is going through health issues so idk when he'll be back
IkaToday at 10:20 AM
which is why you need to put 1tp there
anyways Ive said all I need to say
TheorymonToday at 10:25 AM
tell you what, I'm gonna have a group PM on Saturday and bring this up. by PM I mean something on discord rather than forum PMs. Are you ok with me copy + pasting what you're saying when I bring this up?
or are there parts you want me to remove
IkaToday at 10:25 AM
Sure feel free to
TheorymonToday at 10:25 AM
ok cool!
IkaToday at 10:26 AM
Though I do not think it will help your case :smile:
Theres a reason I am a nobody in Battle Spot despite all I do
Perhaps because I am prickly and like getting stuff done like this
TheorymonToday at 10:26 AM
well I mean its gonna be about analysis stuff in general so Im sorta gonan have to bring you up in some form lol
IkaToday at 10:26 AM
oh have I done anything wrong?
TheorymonToday at 10:26 AM
no its just youve done a lot of them lol
IkaToday at 10:27 AM
Id prefer that was not the case, but it is kind of a reality we live in
TheorymonToday at 10:27 AM
as for Snorlax, I'll try to figure out what to do with it this weekend. ATM Im mostly focused on getting importables ready for onsite, so at the very least I'll probably crib the Snorlax ones from your WIP one for now
IkaToday at 10:28 AM
Ill have another look at it, you might as well move the WIP TTar and Snorlax done by those other guys to the bin
TheorymonToday at 10:29 AM
oh they basically are, I just left them in because sometimes moving threads messes with alerts Ive found. They're locked so they're dead as the moon lol
IkaToday at 10:29 AM
also I have a list somewhere in the analysis section of 5 mons that need partial editing or redoing that are outdated, the rest of the analyses look fine mostly
thats of ones already uploaded
TheorymonToday at 10:29 AM
lol theres a chance we may have covered the same stuff already
Ive been doing that too
IkaToday at 10:30 AM
Dracovish, Mimikyu, Sylveon, togekiss, rotom-w
the only major ones are Rotom-W and Sylveon
the rest you can kinda change moves or just quickly add another set
TheorymonToday at 10:31 AM
I have those + Gyarados and Hydreigon atm
IkaToday at 10:31 AM
Togekiss only needs coverage on it and reordering
Vish needs Trick room added and needs outrage (you can just say TR with a brave nature or something)
Sylveon needs a complete overhaul 1 set the yawn one
Rotom-W is just a mess
Mimikyu needs TR mimi
yea mentioned gyara and ferro too as like very very minor changes
gyara with ice fang, I think you could put different moves on ferro perhaps in oos
but thats like tiny
TheorymonToday at 10:32 AM
oh we're not even gonna have other options anymore lol
like legit we're never moving on from Previews "At best" (or at worst depending on your viewpoint)
I asked the C&C leadership for that because full analyses with huge DLC coming seems pointless, so I at least got that granted
IkaToday at 10:34 AM
makes sense
i guess after the DLC comes, we can see if there is any more plans from Nintendo and then work from there
TheorymonToday at 10:34 AM
even OU isnt doing full analyses for a while lol
Im not gonna leak whats happening behind the scenes but... C&C is in very uncertain times right now
hard to say whats going to happen in the near future
so even with the preview format, don't get too crazy with indepth writing atm lol
IkaToday at 10:36 AM
well I can imagine that to be the case