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innovation disruption and big issues
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this is business game changers with
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Sarah West our welcome to business game
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changers I'm Sarah West all I have a
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really very fun interview coming up with
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two of the top scientists probably in
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the world
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Phill Catalano and Max champi they both
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have five science degrees phil has
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worked at NASA for over 15 years and
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then he left and did a lot of other
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cutting-edge research Max has done a ton
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of cutting-edge research they're gonna
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tell us about their background which you
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I was impressed with and very impressive
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but what's more impressive is their
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cutting-edge research and their ability
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to think out of the box and really get
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new innovative ideas and they are
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they're just developing on these really
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cool things but they've done a lot of
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research on c60 they actually reached
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out to me and I was really impressed
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with their backgrounds and I really
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wanted to have somebody that could bring
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a ton of credibility to this subject of
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c60 and I think you will be surprised at
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what the research is showing and the
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kind of results they're having with c60
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and people are having with c60 you know
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I I got a lot of crap from people on the
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c60 interview probably more good stuff
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but I did still get a lot of crap that
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people thought I was helping to sell
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snake oil and you know just crap and
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before you go there and you think that
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c60 is a joke or snake oil I think you
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need to look at the research and you
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need to listen to these top scientists
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there's something here and it's exciting
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it's exciting that we have access to
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something that could help us so much and
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so I don't want to waste much of our
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time and I'm going to get into our any
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of you now with Phil Catalano and max
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ciampi hi max and Phil welcome to the
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program hello hello thank you yeah
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thanks so much for joining I am glad to
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have some experts joining me on the c60
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you have a lot of science background
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what collectively together you have 10
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degrees something crazy like that
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and NASA worked at NASA for 15 years
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can you talk quickly about what your
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background is and why you decided to get
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into c60 I was associated with max in
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other companies again they were think
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tanks R&D; and as we kept our
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relationship together we found more and
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more projects to work on and c60 is one
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of them
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I was part of the think tank I was
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recruited in to the cert think tank to
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help them in special projects one of the
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special projects was blue on energy
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which is a company in California that
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has developed a unique refrigerant to
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replace the r22 industry and I am the
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inventor I'm the patent holder being
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sent out there one of the process with
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with the blue on refrigerant I was
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looking for Lube ristic attributes for
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the actual refrigerant and ran across
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seas you know carbon 60 as lubricity
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Katra Butte make the refrigerant more
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Lube ristic more slicker less resistance
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and in doing weeks and weeks and intense
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research into it I ran across some of
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the early studies this was in 2012 I ran
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across some of the early studies using
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c60 and just earmarked them and put them
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aside because I wasn't concerned about
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the health aspect as much as the other
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applications for the actual molecule
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and during my stint in California
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working with this company my son called
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and said my mother was showing signs of
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early Alzheimer's and said you know we
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may have to hire a nurse to watch her
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and I said you know what I've developed
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the product we're in or were passed the
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patent process I'm gonna take a leave of
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absence from blue on and I'm gonna come
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home to the mountains and see what I can
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do with my mother and remembering the
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c60 research we created the first
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product just in house for my mother and
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I I didn't want her taking any products
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that I wasn't gonna take so we created
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the product to field trial on her she
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had nothing to lose and everything to
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gain
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and through my NASA connections my
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sister worked for NASA we were able to
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acquire pure ultra pure c60 molecules
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and using that that format I started my
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mother on an intense protocol of taking
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c60 along with myself and within 90 days
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my mother's fog cleared that's amazing
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so you have a lot of NASA connections to
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get the pure c60 feel you worked at NASA
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for 15 years and max your sister worked
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at NASA can you talk about that a little
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bit well I was a member of the technical
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staff at JPL and I was there almost 15
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years pretty close 14 nine months so and
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I was on a special project above
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top-secret and I came to the Martin
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Marietta facility here in Denver for
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this project and I was the field office
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engineering manager for quality
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assurance and I stayed here until I the
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project was over and I opted not to
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return to Southern California and stay
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in Denver and so I left
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I got accepted to lay off and I stayed
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here and got involved in other
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engineering projects aerospace I worked
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at Ball Aerospace I worked with as a
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contractor with Martin Marietta Lockheed
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Martin Raytheon all the other big
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corporations aerospace corporations on
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classified projects as well as regular
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aircraft our spacecraft and satellites
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so what does it mean to be above
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top-secret it's very interesting it was
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it's it's above top-secret it's what
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they call SC I secured compartmentalized
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information and it's compartmentalized
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so each of the areas above top-secret
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have their own black ops projects and I
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worked on a couple of them and you can't
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talk about it obviously right right
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I really want to hear about him though
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but okay so bottom line is that you
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started doing c60 because of the
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potential of it your mother had amazing
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results and your sister was able to get
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you pure c60 can you talk about the pure
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360 a bit well when when a seat when you
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when you create C 60 it's mixed with
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other carbon molecules and to separate
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those molecules those other other
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molecular structures it has to go
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through many steps as well as being put
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under stringent product control to
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isolate them based on their structure
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size as well as
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the extraction process in in some cases
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uses interesting chemicals and I was
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obsessed with having pure carbon
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molecules that were not tainted with any
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chemical process that could be carried
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over into the body and so through my
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connections I got with a contractor who
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makes ultra pure c60 in other words it's
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99.99% sixty molecule there's nothing
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else in it and that was what I wanted to
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use for myself and my mother and after
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after the results so that you know after
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the results
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my mom my mom's 92 she was 88 at the
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time 80 maybe 87 hell math she got her
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driver's license again quit wearing
09:30
reading glasses and hazzard driver's
09:34
license at 92 and drives a car so then
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the people in our small town would see
09:39
her walking the restaurants when I used
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to have to accompany here and they said
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are you supposed to be here and she goes
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oh yeah you know if you're selling food
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I'm supposed to be here you know and so
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the the local townspeople we have about
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5,000 people in my area the local
10:04
townspeople discover but hit pretty
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quick and they start showing up at my
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doorstep and so with our lab and we were
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doing research in consciousness we're
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doing research we have agricultural
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application where we manipulate the
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magnetic field of the earth to amplify
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plant growth as well as control bug
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movement which is why macula AG so we
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were doing other work
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and this was not a priority for monetary
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gain that's not the intent with with the
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product and we were doing other work and
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people started showing up at the
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doorstep so I discussed it and I said
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let's let's start making the product and
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sharing it with the others as long as it
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covered the cost of the quality of the
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product and that's how the c60 product
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fell in to live longer labs hands and I
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started using it right away three or
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four years ago and was one of the early
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experimenters with it and I also gave it
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to my dogs and after a couple of a few
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years maybe even on the 18 months or so
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I would get up early in the morning and
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I'm an early morning Percy I would walk
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my dogs and I didn't put my contacts in
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and so I started noticing that I didn't
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need them I was seeing clearly I was
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seeing 20/20 and that were the more
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encouraging things that kept me going on
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c60 of course I'm feeling a lot better
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and I attributed to the carbon 60 is
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your eyesight clearing up from the age
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oriented eyesight problems or did you
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actually have eyesight since you were a
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little bit nearer vision there's your
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sighted and it cleared up I just didn't
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need to wear my contacts or glasses so
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your nearsightedness that you had since
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you were young cleared up yeah and I
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think according to some of the research
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that we have been following that's one
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of the most prevalent notable things
12:18
that people experience is clearing up a
12:21
vice-like nigh problems
12:23
what about digestive issues because so
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many people have digestive problems well
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that's the basis of c60 let's get to the
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root of the if you put in anything in a
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search engine based on oxidative stress
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you know you can put Castleman's disease
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Hadji mode
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disease polio it doesn't matter whatever
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you imagine you put it into Google and
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see if it's based on oxidative stress
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and if oxidative stress is the cause
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then the reaction of taking c60 could be
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yeah so whatever ox it causes oxidative
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stress I'm just
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it seems out of turn here and a talk
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about digestive issues it's just
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something I personally have a problem
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with so that's why I brought it up and
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if you know it's usually an intolerance
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to to whatever you're eating but c60
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does is a mask anything if you read the
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doctor's report the toxicologists it's
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on my webpage report it allows your body
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to reach homeostasis status quo that it
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probably hasn't seen since you were a
13:47
teenager and now your body is actually
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repairing things instead of just plain
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trying to play catch-up
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so it's physically allowing your body to
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fix itself which it has the innate
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ability to do if you give it the
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opportunity and you don't see it after
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certain age because you start losing
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traction because your body's repair
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there's more damage than the body can
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fix eventually you just can't keep up
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with it and you get old and keep getting
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older sort of the oxidative stress value
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I mean that's all part of it in fact we
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have one of the guys here today that's
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in the Y macula group with us he's one
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of the owners of Y macula and he took a
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telomere test he took it mainly because
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he was he was a stroke he had a stroke
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and had some issues to rise from the
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stroke and started taking the c60 and
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you wouldn't recognize that any physical
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problems are present and he took a
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telomere test and it came back that he
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had a hundred and seven percent chance
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of making it to a hundred
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years of age so so do you think it
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lengthens your telomeres or do you think
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it it just keeps them from shrinking no
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I think jetLink since them there's no
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way that he would be no way that he
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would be out of the bell curve without
15:20
us changing the structure of the of the
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telomeres and you know I don't want to
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go publicly and say that's what we're
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doing because that's not I'm just
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telling you the results of his tests and
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we've had others take the test and the
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results are similar so with that being
15:38
said what is it doing it definitely
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affects the telomeres and it's very
15:44
possible that it slows down their growth
15:46
as well as just extending them but we
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don't know because the data that we have
15:52
is only what's out there research have
15:56
you been doing now cuz I know that with
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all your research background on of
16:00
course you're gonna be getting your
16:02
hands on everything you can and also
16:04
doing what you have time to do what are
16:07
you doing and what research is out there
16:09
because I know it's a really new yet
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that's exactly it it is really new and
16:14
and to go through proper proper protocol
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to be recognized is extremely difficult
16:22
when you're not in the system
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you know we're outside the system you're
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talking the medical system the
16:30
pharmaceutical deal exactly so we're
16:35
outside the system so I do have a
16:39
program that's being put together in
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South America where we also are working
16:44
with y macula down there but with with
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the Institute for psychological issues
16:54
and they're gonna put the C 60 protocol
16:56
in to the equation and record actual
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in-house data so breaking us to get into
17:07
something that is actually in a positive
17:11
attribute for suffering human
17:15
is difficult it's just incredible
17:18
because bill Andrews you've heard of dr.
17:20
bill Andrews who's working on Langston
17:22
ET leurs I've done quite a bit of shows
17:24
with him and they actually have a
17:25
solution to fully lengthen telomeres now
17:29
it's very expensive but it does it very
17:31
quickly
17:31
and the interesting part with c60 see
17:35
60s an inexpensive process it can help
17:38
it does it slowly because your body's
17:40
repairing it it sounds like so for
17:42
elderly people they could take you know
17:45
something like what bill Andrews is
17:47
doing once it gets a little more little
17:49
like they have one that's at 16% that's
17:51
not that expensive so they could do some
17:53
kind of combination treatment yet really
17:56
get a jump start on it and then see 60
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could take you from there assuming it's
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what we think is it is we're basing a
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lot of our experience on experiential
18:05
results from the people that were
18:08
working with so the research is probably
18:11
more in applications and experience and
18:14
we're developing further records from
18:17
that well I would love to see more
18:20
serious if there was a way that we could
18:22
take this and do some more serious I
18:24
know that once you start getting more
18:25
serious than they want to step in and
18:27
regulate and how do we do this in a way
18:30
that because we know that there isn't
18:32
any side effects or any problems how do
18:34
we do this and have it be in the
18:35
supplement territory so because they
18:37
don't regulate and they leave
18:39
supplements alone and it's a difficult
18:42
you know it was difficult for us to even
18:45
come forward with it and even do the
18:48
show and the reason I say that is we do
18:52
quite well staying behind the curtain
18:55
and working we didn't make the product
18:58
to make profit you know everybody opened
19:01
up a garage operation and jumped on the
19:05
c60 bandwagon there's a bunch of them
19:07
there's some on Amazon and they're all
19:11
good right I wouldn't I wouldn't give
19:15
them to anybody I care about people need
19:18
to realize that that that there's it's
19:21
important to know what quality you're
19:22
looking at yeah it's like a at this
19:25
stage of the game
19:27
quality is very very crucial and with
19:30
the carbon sixty that we get and
19:32
handling and the process that we're
19:34
using is optimum we are don't cut any
19:38
corners no because we're not doing it
19:41
for profit that's not the intent you
19:44
know you just are you doing are you
19:47
doing it to supply as many people as
19:49
possible
19:50
I mean if we've got a flood of orders
19:52
are you ready to say okay I'm going to
19:55
keep doing this because this is better
19:57
for mankind or are you gonna say I got
20:01
to make a living and I I don't know what
20:03
I'm gonna do here because of our focus
20:04
that seems to be the the correct
20:07
direction to keep following again this
20:10
is helping people it's helping a lot of
20:12
people they're giving us that feedback
20:14
and as a result that's encouraging to
20:17
keep going in that direction
20:19
well how I say it you know I have a lot
20:22
more questions to ask you but how much
20:24
how much did you charge for what you are
20:27
giving how much is it we don't make we
20:32
make enough off of it the higher quality
20:35
stuff we make enough off of it to make
20:39
poor product because not everybody that
20:41
gets it pays for it because I don't want
20:47
every charity case that's one of the
20:49
reasons none of our phone numbers or
20:52
addresses are on our website because
20:55
we're mainly a research lab our focus is
20:59
doing other things not buying and
21:02
selling product the thing is that
21:05
there's so many people that are
21:06
suffering and people that hear this
21:08
would yeah and you don't want to end up
21:10
just being that because then you can't
21:11
but at some point it's like well it's a
21:14
pretty good thing to be so I can you
21:17
order it off your website or no oh yes
21:20
well you can order from that direct from
21:22
our website if you if you haven't got a
21:24
chance you need to go to the website and
21:26
and you know I don't know of anybody
21:31
that sells the product presently that
21:35
has doctors and research people involved
21:40
like we do that's what's so incredible I
21:43
mean with your like I said the
21:45
collection of together you to have over
21:48
10 12 10 degrees all science degrees
21:51
right I mean you we know that now the
21:53
degree doesn't necessarily mean that
21:55
you're the best in the field but in your
21:58
case your background your degrees you're
21:59
so passionate about it it's it's pretty
22:03
incredible out of credibility to this
22:06
product which is what I really like to
22:08
hear and really like to see and I
22:12
understand that but you know it's it's
22:15
almost like McDonald's when the person
22:19
sue them for burning themselves through
22:21
the drive-thru window now you can't
22:22
serve hot coffee across the industry you
22:26
know when is somebody gonna make one of
22:29
these c60 products that's the quality is
22:32
going to be less than desirable and that
22:35
one issue will be the turning point for
22:38
people to be reluctant so you know our
22:43
our mainstay is not selling c60 it's the
22:47
research that it company companies that
22:52
we we look at quality of life that's one
22:56
of the mainstays of our research is
22:59
quality of life not only for humans but
23:01
also for animals and plants and that's
23:04
the world that we work in and we work in
23:08
the conscious field because that's tied
23:10
to it and we have pretty interesting
23:15
earth-shattering research in that that
23:19
we're just not willing to share okay you
23:23
gotta share some of it amazing all I can
23:28
say is amazing what do you can you share
23:31
a little bit without sharing the science
23:34
details okay what if what if I told you
23:39
that we are working on a box that you
23:44
could sit in front of your dog or your
23:46
plant and it communicate to you what
23:49
what it wants in a syntax
23:52
so you can read can you what will you be
23:54
doing well see I have to immediately go
23:56
into the science that how does it work
23:58
you know cuz I'm I got an engineering
24:00
background I can't even hold myself
24:05
energy that's created by plant animal
24:08
and human so it takes it and converts it
24:11
into a syntax and finds the word that
24:14
matches that syntax and tells you
24:16
verbally what is being what is trying to
24:20
be expressed okay cuz a dog or an animal
24:23
has they don't have the ability to talk
24:26
but they do have thoughts and those
24:28
thoughts have energy and then that
24:30
energy is what you you work through it
24:33
is it accurate pretty accurate yeah
24:40
that's how intelligent are you finding
24:43
that these other beings are animals and
24:46
things cuz now you're gonna be able to
24:48
get them back okay you really want to go
24:50
down that rabbit hole oh my god yes
24:53
you're talking to someone who's really
24:55
interested in this stuff and so are the
24:57
listeners what if what if you
25:00
hypothesized that we are just
25:03
workstations just like plants and
25:06
animals and the main information is
25:09
stored in a main database and you only
25:11
access it when you concentrate or think
25:14
and plants and animals have had access
25:17
all the time they just don't have a way
25:20
to divulge it to you oh that's really
25:24
interesting and that's what that's the
25:25
information that you're getting from
25:27
that the the observations of their
25:30
behavior is very key so they can't
25:34
communicate verbally obviously but their
25:38
behavior is definitely tied to the
25:41
direction we're moving so is it like
25:44
when there's tsunamis and things the
25:46
animals all know instinctively to go
25:49
somewhere and we don't want yes exactly
25:52
but if you sat and thought about it you
25:54
would get glimpses of that of what you
25:57
need to do and you would probably ignore
25:59
it because it's not convenient
26:01
we're based on convenience well but
26:03
we're also based on what we see and feel
26:06
oh and we have to have tangible things
26:08
well the animals are too but they use
26:11
instinct and you say well it's
26:12
instinctual well no not all running from
26:16
a tsunami that's not instinctual and go
26:20
and look at the videos of those tsunamis
26:22
and watch some of the plants react Oh
26:24
what are the plants do they turn away
26:26
from the ocean and we all ran into it
26:33
depending on what country wow the beach
26:36
is uncovered well not anymore people are
26:38
educated now but no no and I understand
26:41
but that's because of the inability to
26:43
connect to the central database unless
26:47
you're thinking you know you're you you
26:50
sit here and and and you operate daily
26:53
and you know when you're hungry you know
26:56
when you're sleepy you know if you want
26:58
to watch TV but if I ask you who was
27:00
your best friend in the third grade and
27:02
you sit there and you go I can't even
27:04
remember who and let me think and then
27:07
you come up with it that's because
27:09
you've created a connection to the to
27:11
the data link and you've downloaded that
27:14
information it's not on your brain it's
27:17
above it's in the data so the energy and
27:22
you see the energy flowing from
27:24
somewhere else into our bodies yeah oh
27:26
yeah you're communicating it's the
27:30
vibrational energies from various
27:32
frequencies that we're subconsciously
27:34
connecting to and of course we go
27:37
through an interpretation in our
27:39
thoughts and so that's kind of an a
27:42
distraction from that intuitive
27:45
connection so our thinking process kind
27:49
of dilutes a lot of what we are
27:52
receiving through our senses wow that's
27:55
really interesting so what are you going
27:57
to do with that in that information well
28:00
there's an applications effort that's
28:03
tying physical things together with
28:06
conscious things and so that's where
28:08
we're working we're recognizing where
28:11
that can be achieved and how we could
28:14
develop
28:15
devices or instruments or processes
28:18
procedures that tie it together and that
28:21
bridging of Science and Technology
28:26
science really really interesting so do
28:30
you have anybody that comes and contacts
28:34
you from different industries that want
28:36
you to do this kind of work for them not
28:41
yet but I'm sure we're going to
28:44
connections are starting to get well in
28:49
the Y Macklowe world we are doing this
28:51
and and we're able to move bugs and
28:58
infest areas without any sound vibration
29:02
we control the magnetic field way more
29:07
healthier than the chemicals that were
29:09
putting all over the ground
29:12
yeah go to Y mech lag and look at the
29:16
video it's in multiple languages look at
29:19
it and and you'll see what we're doing
29:22
that's because that could really take
29:24
care of a lot of problems that people
29:26
have as well you know like well maybe
29:28
the c60 does but the digestive issues
29:30
and all these problems that people are
29:32
having because we're putting all these
29:34
chemicals out there
29:35
well dr. Alred IV that's around here
29:38
somewhere that does research with us she
29:44
she is part of a research group and
29:47
they've pinpointed that Parkinson's and
29:51
certain age defining diseases are
29:57
concentrated in farmers and the Midwest
30:01
due to the increased application of
30:05
chemicals and we work with probiotics
30:10
group and so there's there's a magnitude
30:15
of what we're doing that just isn't C 60
30:18
so it's C 60 is up there on one of the
30:24
coolest things ever but you have to
30:26
admit and and we've been doing it for
30:28
years
30:29
and and we we couldn't force it on on
30:31
people and and and now we can't keep
30:35
them away because the results results
30:39
and it's undeniable well I think it's
30:42
absolutely credit need to be an olive
30:44
oil because that's one of the things
30:46
that you know the original science was
30:49
done in olive oil no because it was an
30:51
easy oil to bond to the lipids and when
30:55
you get it down to a mono molecular size
30:57
where it's where it's not clustered they
31:01
were able to do it in olive oil because
31:03
it was readily available and it was what
31:05
they used but any of the oils that have
31:09
fatty lipids you can bond it to and each
31:13
oil has its own attributes in its own
31:17
standalone in its own ability you know
31:20
the Mediterranean diet talks about
31:22
crossing into the blood-brain barrier
31:24
and good for the heart so the products
31:27
that there the oil that I originated
31:30
with was for my mother and was based on
31:34
olive oil but my mom now takes Alva cata
31:37
coconut we've done apricot seed jojoba I
31:44
could go down all these oils and we
31:48
bonded it to it and we've tried it in
31:50
multiple applications and are working in
31:53
it field testing in different
31:55
applications whether it's topical
31:57
whether it's internal so you could even
32:01
do topical oil maybe eventually we do it
32:04
we just and do you think it works the
32:09
same I suppose we'd have you done the
32:11
extensive testing to know well we're
32:13
working on it the testing you know the
32:16
testing is only limited you know they
32:18
say well what's the long-term effect
32:19
well what's a long-term effect of using
32:23
Wi-Fi when we've only had Wi-Fi for
32:25
around for a couple of years you can't
32:27
you can help us but you can't you can't
32:31
claim anything I know that everything
32:35
we've done using this has shown
32:37
extremely positive effects
32:39
well and it's so ridiculous when they
32:42
say what's the long-term effects because
32:44
and if they shut it down for something
32:45
like that because the long-term effects
32:47
of some of the stuff they're using is
32:48
killing people no yeah well would you
32:51
sign an NDA to do testing with a large
32:55
group and then that information comes
32:59
back derogatory that NDA restricts you
33:03
from sharing the negative information
33:05
just as well as it would the positive
33:07
information
33:08
so we're self-funded we we don't take
33:11
money from the outside world except for
33:12
through what we do ourselves and we
33:16
purposely because we want to do things
33:19
the right way and our way yeah you you
33:23
want to be able to do it honestly with
33:26
integrity exactly and not hide the bad
33:29
stuff and all these other things the
33:32
experiential work we're working with
33:34
people who are actually using the
33:36
products and giving us feedback and
33:39
that's where we're building a database
33:40
of understanding of what it does and how
33:43
it does it so we don't have the
33:46
University laboratory type documentation
33:49
because that's not they're using
33:52
controlled environment whereas we're
33:55
working with individuals because we
33:58
started helping people and that's the
34:00
feedback and the experimental work that
34:02
we're working on and it's almost like
34:04
you don't want to not give it to people
34:06
because it helps them so much so you
34:09
have this amazing test pool of people
34:13
why not do it that way yes we're working
34:16
with that plus we're leaning very
34:18
heavily on the research that's published
34:21
in the various universities and on our
34:24
website on the live longer labs website
34:27
we reference over a thousand 40 medical
34:30
and science papers and that backs up
34:33
what we're doing experimentally with
34:36
people and their experience so has there
34:39
been any negative result in any negative
34:42
information any reports that way none
34:46
none of the university as we know but
34:49
I took two ounces a day for six weeks I
34:54
saturated my body beyond conception of
34:57
anybody else taking the product and once
35:00
I'd reached plateau there was no
35:04
positive attributes or negative in other
35:07
words it wasn't gonna do any more than
35:09
what it was doing at that point you know
35:13
people have different allergic reactions
35:15
to oils and that's different you can
35:18
have a reaction olive oil because you're
35:20
and and that's correct
35:22
see the c60 is actually I mean we're a
35:26
carbon-based life form
35:27
so you're physically consuming
35:30
monomolecular charcoal literally it's
35:34
just in a in a certain structure that's
35:37
that's the buckminster fuller's yep and
35:41
it's a Lea trope so it's like a diamond
35:44
it won't bond or morph into anything it
35:46
only attracts in a covalent bond in a
35:50
bond that's magnetic to these free
35:53
radical oxygens and so it just passes
35:56
through your body absorbing 172 times
36:01
more free radicals than vitamin C and
36:05
they recommend vitamin C so so basically
36:10
over time your your body's as if you're
36:14
older over time you start to really it
36:17
takes time to repair yourself so yes no
36:21
but you will see we have seen changes in
36:27
days that are miraculous to ourselves
36:32
now anything I've got people with severe
36:37
chronic back pain and in 24 hours are
36:43
able to walk again
36:44
so there are are some very quick results
36:48
but the primary basis of what we're
36:52
working with is long-term so we know
36:55
that it builds up in the body and it
36:57
starts to make changes most of the
36:59
diseases and ailments that we have to
37:02
time to develop and it's going to take
37:04
time to change them or repair them
37:07
themselves have to you have to get new
37:10
cells right you have to turn over the
37:12
bad ones and get new ones and that's a
37:14
seven-year process saying it and if the
37:18
reason they used rats is their metabolic
37:21
rate is 50 to 1 so you see a lifetime of
37:25
results in 12 months but they don't have
37:28
telomeres so that's what was so
37:30
incredible about their stuff ya know and
37:33
then if you put it in dogs dogs or a 7
37:36
to 1 metabolic rate so we have seen
37:39
animals our own personal pets that
37:43
astound their veterinarians astound them
37:49
so we know we know it works in multiple
37:53
mammals how much do you need to give
37:55
your dog it depends I give my dogs a
38:00
dropper full each every day how big are
38:04
they about 2 years 3 years almost know
38:08
how their size therefore is 45 pounds ok
38:13
so if I have a little chihuahua
38:15
I've got chaiwallah how much did you
38:17
give your little one she gets partial
38:21
dropper fill about every other day
38:23
she's an overdose is not gonna has not
38:27
shown any derogatory effect ok so give
38:31
her a half a dropper to get started and
38:34
get her kind of up to you we have we
38:39
have other people one of them has a
38:44
chihuahua that's probably 14 years and
38:48
was running in the walls because of
38:50
cataracts and probably 70% of the of the
38:55
haze over the eyes has diminished and
38:58
it's weeks and the and so the dog is so
39:02
much happier Oh
39:03
life-changing life-changing my dogs are
39:07
both 10 and 11 years old and they act
39:10
like puppies Oh what kind of dogs do you
39:13
have that are 10 and 11
39:15
one of them is a villa and the other one
39:18
is Corgi husky as long how long are they
39:20
supposed to live for what they estimate
39:25
between 15 and 20 years okay so they're
39:27
little they're like the little dogs that
39:29
live a while because I know the
39:30
chihuahuas can live quite a bit too are
39:33
my chihuahua is 12 and still goes into
39:37
heat
39:38
after taking the CCT no yeah that's just
39:43
one of many things so if I keep taking
39:45
c61 I'm 80 I could have a baby dr. Joe
39:50
Andrew said that you're he we talked
39:52
about this and he explained it to us and
39:54
he says your body can your body will be
39:59
able to you know give birth because your
40:01
your body will have the ability it's the
40:02
fact that you only have a limited amount
40:04
of eggs that you can go through and last
40:06
there's some way our body can create
40:09
more eggs but they don't think so at
40:10
this point well they didn't think c60
40:13
would be positive either so they were
40:16
look they were looking for a toxicity
40:18
level not a quality-of-life level well
40:21
and they just don't even think about it
40:23
it's like there's so many things we
40:25
don't think about because we can we
40:28
haven't ever had that opportunity to
40:30
think about the fact that maybe we can
40:31
live longer yeah and the research has
40:34
only been going on since 2011 2012 and
40:38
just just in the last year or two or
40:41
maybe three that it's gone into a more
40:44
of human experiments and and again those
40:47
are just tests with people who are
40:50
experiencing it so it's the same thing
40:53
with dr. bill Andrews his stuff is
40:55
they're doing the first human trials in
40:58
the East it's they can't do it here
41:00
they're going they're doing trials on
41:02
little lemurs these little primates
41:04
they're small so it's inexpensive and
41:06
then they have over 1,500 people signed
41:08
up to do the first human trials so they
41:10
could have full-length telomeres over
41:12
there and have over 1500 people by next
41:14
spring it's this this field is moving
41:20
very quickly no yes I know you guys are
41:24
smart cuz you know I you know what I
41:25
know it says well you know more than I
41:27
know
41:28
a lot more uh not being smug just just
41:32
yes you're right
41:34
you're more even though I've been
41:37
researching in talking to people and
41:39
doing less stuff it's just that's why
41:41
I'm excited to talk to you you are gonna
41:43
be coming back another time whether you
41:46
like it or not you're coming back it'll
41:49
be better prepared and find an internet
41:52
connection it'll work substantially
41:55
versus and consistently and consistently
41:58
it's been interesting is all I can say
42:00
well what are some of the other positive
42:02
effects that you have seen that you know
42:07
so anything that oxidated stress can
42:11
create a problem with so what other
42:13
things are there are there everything
42:16
about your aging process everything it
42:19
affects the DNA at every level so
42:21
they've given the right amount of time
42:23
and the consistent use you'll start to
42:26
see results in all areas so if you don't
42:28
want you're supposed to have a stronger
42:30
libido you've got to be careful about
42:32
letting them have it if you want or if
42:36
you want them to have one you make sure
42:38
you tell addressing you know we are we
42:49
are excited about the animal world
42:51
because humans can make a choice the
42:55
animals camp and we we're very
43:00
passionate about that and the results
43:03
are mind-boggling so you being the
43:06
results of how we can communicate with
43:08
animals and things well not only
43:11
communicate you're communicating with
43:13
them whether you want what do you think
43:15
you are not because you're tied to that
43:17
same central location so you know look
43:23
up look up Cleve Backster dark-dark he
43:29
was a he did I have lie-detector
43:33
machines in my lab secret life of plants
43:35
yes you know you can walk in the lab I
43:39
can hang you
43:40
a card and you opened the card and if it
43:44
says burn the plant the the lie detector
43:48
on my plants will go nuts really yeah
43:52
but is that isn't that tied to kind of
43:55
remember the the water experiments where
43:58
your cabinetry changes yes one of his
44:03
assistants works with us semantics lab
44:07
yeah I mean they have a Rotter brewery
44:11
store in Costa Mesa and they sell our
44:15
c60 product there but he is a semantics
44:18
expert and he works with while macula
44:21
and live longer laps so and he worked
44:24
with Emoto so it's small world it all
44:27
comes back around whether honey just
44:30
didn't bring it up I just because I saw
44:33
that connection and there it is how
44:35
interesting is that
44:36
so do you foresee a time where and maybe
44:40
you're there where we can actually
44:41
really communicate and see what the
44:44
animals feel about us and humans and
44:47
what we're doing yeah yeah yes and also
44:52
notice that c60 enhances psychic ability
44:56
so we're getting feedback from people
44:59
again this is not necessarily
45:01
experimental data but the feedback we're
45:05
getting is that they see auras they are
45:09
more telepathic they're more psychic and
45:12
a number of areas they're enhanced with
45:15
their ability to I guess just help
45:20
people in in various ways I don't want
45:24
to use the word healing but a lot of the
45:27
alternative health practitioners are
45:30
experiencing some very good results with
45:34
them helping others why are there some
45:36
people that have absolutely no ability
45:39
to connect you know in that way
45:42
telepathically and others that really
45:44
can there's some blockage there is
45:47
something that blocks and it could be
45:49
some of the inputs that we have from the
45:52
food air
45:53
we breathe and the places we're at from
45:57
electromagnetic radiation effects and
46:00
such and they again consciousness is
46:04
part of it because if you're not aware
46:06
then you are overwhelmed with all the
46:10
other mundane activities so it's
46:13
suppresses and/or shields or blocks a
46:16
lot of that receptive psychic reception
46:19
so in order to be more intuitive you
46:22
have to be open to it here I'll give you
46:26
a tidbit look up magnetic deficiency
46:30
syndrome because of the change in the
46:33
magnetic field of the earth your body is
46:36
having to compensate for the absence of
46:39
magnetism and so you think that's the
46:42
there was something eating it's a
46:46
contribute we are doing research in that
46:48
world that's how we got into the plants
46:50
that's how we did earth at some point
46:54
change and now we are continuing to
46:58
change it's continuing and then they'll
47:01
tell you well it's the rotation of the
47:03
molten lava or when you change the
47:08
surface area with electronics grid
47:11
system electricity you you manipulate
47:15
the magnetic field of that surface well
47:18
because we are an electric universe
47:20
correct yes magnetic deficiency syndrome
47:26
just look it up I'm going to and being
47:29
connected to top scientists in the world
47:32
your NASA connections and all this
47:34
top-secret stuff and all the
47:35
cutting-edge research you're doing
47:37
how many scientists at that level agree
47:42
that we're in an electric universe it's
47:46
not traditional astrophysicists who will
47:50
agree not yet it's a very controversial
47:53
area and the data is
47:56
is interpreted and if it's interpreted
47:59
by the mainstream scientists it's
48:02
interpreted under one way and the
48:04
alternative scientists interpreted if
48:07
you if you stand your well if you spend
48:10
your life in academia to reach the
48:12
pinnacle of your beers and then tomorrow
48:16
everything that put you in that place is
48:19
change you're no longer the pinnacle of
48:21
your peers it undermines your whole
48:24
success and and you're not you're your
48:27
survival your survival is being attacked
48:30
yes yes your every aspect of what you
48:35
spent your entire life accumulating is
48:38
now changed
48:40
it's changed so you've got the I'm just
48:44
no I agree I think it's a psychological
48:47
deal they can't they can't mentally go
48:50
there it's you know cognitive dissonance
48:52
with what they have going on so what do
48:56
you see in the future what do you see in
48:58
the future for c60 who knows I mean I'm
49:03
leaving it wide open as for us you know
49:06
whether we sell anymore or not is it's
49:11
it it doesn't make us or break us that's
49:14
not the purpose behind the research that
49:17
we do we will continue to look for the
49:22
answers that we're looking for and the
49:25
problems that we're trying to solve I
49:29
mean the opportunities are just
49:31
incredible out there because there's so
49:33
many things that c60 can bond to food
49:37
products liquid products all kinds of
49:41
recipes it could be an additive in all
49:44
of our food next thing you know we just
49:45
don't have to worry about it
49:46
yes and medicinal products as well
49:49
herbal products recently we've looked
49:53
into jail capping it we've looked in we
49:56
you know everybody that's on the c60 ban
50:00
way
50:01
we've been doing it like I said we've
50:03
been doing it since the professor I was
50:07
doing it as a lubricity attribute we've
50:10
been playing with this for a long time
50:12
we just long time where it's been
50:21
isolated you know I've got they've
50:25
tested it NASA we have a different we
50:28
have an unnamed molecule we just we
50:31
there's so much that we can't share and
50:34
and aren't gonna share at this point but
50:36
it's an interesting place to be what do
50:39
you mean you have an unnamed molecule is
50:42
it related to c60 or is it something we
50:44
know that you're working on no it's
50:46
related to c60 okay and eventually I'll
50:50
change our view of science you are so
50:54
much fun to talk to you this is I've
50:56
been really really fun for me and so I
50:59
am really happy that you came and I hope
51:02
that you you'll come again and then we
51:04
can do some kind of regular educational
51:07
series because so many people are so
51:09
interested in this and and some of the
51:11
topics that you're talking about we
51:13
could dive into yes you know Adam curry
51:17
I don't know if you know who Adam curry
51:19
is I don't know he didn't tell me I
51:21
could mention his name but he works with
51:24
me quite diligently and he has a new
51:29
software for cell phones it's gonna go
51:31
public and entanglement project at
51:35
dealing with consciousness a he
51:38
purposely drove into the mountains to
51:40
meet with us last week so I mean he
51:45
worked with MIT at 17 I mean you need to
51:49
look him up if you don't know him he's
51:51
another interesting one to to bring into
51:54
the fold
51:55
oh absolutely all those people anybody
51:57
who was on the cutting edge that's what
51:59
I get excited about you know I mean you
52:02
know my background is fairly cutting
52:03
edge with the internet and stuff but it
52:05
I can't get enough of it we'll pick up
52:11
you know
52:14
when I when I invented the refrigerant I
52:17
was so left-wing because they have five
52:23
thousand scientists organic chemists
52:25
inventing refrigerants trying to find
52:27
solutions at these big name brand
52:30
companies and and I went completely
52:33
against all their ideals about creating
52:37
a refrigerant and now they can't even
52:40
the people that tested it said we would
52:44
have never thought that you would be
52:45
able to create a refrigerant they could
52:47
do what this does the way you did it
52:49
because I just threw the books in the
52:52
trashcan and I said we're starting what
52:54
do we want and where do we go to get it
52:56
and that's how we came up absolutely and
52:59
that's why they think that or it's
53:01
proven so many people from outside a
53:03
field are the ones that come up with new
53:06
ideas because once you're in it you're
53:08
yeah you've already been programmed to
53:10
walk the path the synchronicities that
53:14
we have experienced working with all of
53:18
this it's just keeps lining up with many
53:21
many other things they just keep pouring
53:23
us on this path more barriers are
53:26
removed and more encouraging
53:29
synchronicities continue to push us and
53:31
it's absolutely noticeable isn't that
53:34
fun cuz I'm noticing that too with what
53:36
I'm doing I'm shocked
53:40
so we were unexpected and they keep
53:43
moving we were I will discuss things
53:45
with you at some point where we're not
53:48
in a public arena and you are gonna do
53:51
that because it's interesting you're
53:57
you're you're dabbing but you're close
54:01
that's all I can say well I'm very
54:05
excited and thank you so much and of
54:07
course we're gonna have you back and
54:09
we're gonna have you back a number of
54:10
times and I again thank you and have an
54:14
amazing day thank you thank you for your
54:18
table okay hold on a second