brad61 can't handle free speech

@n4ked1
dude comes here and trolls and anyone who responds is put on ignore then informed of it
this is one of the few channels hes not banned in
@Ziddy
okok
@brad61
nope n4ked1, i wont, I dont give a shit, if i can tolerate maxxi, I can tolerate anyone
even you n4ked1
@n4ked1
hmmmm
fair enough
@brad61
and all yer slacious nicks
i am a very fair guy,
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@brad61
and the room went silent
pm must be booming
@brad61
I scanned it wow
didnt finish it tho
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@brad61
well, holdin a roll in yer hand when ya hit always leads to broken bones
ⓘ notK set mode +v sbalneav
Ignoring n4ked1!*@*
+Laniakea
I put you on ignore n4ked1.
n4ked1, a few corrections.
None of these corrections will be meaningful to you, as you're an anti-intellectual.
+pela
[UD] Word: troll
[UD] Definition: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument
[UD] Example:
[UD] Author: Alien Entity Link: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=
+Laniakea
And by "anti-intellectual", I mean, "you lie and distort reality in a profound way that prevents you from having any accurate assessment of what's actually going on"
Ignoring pela!*@*
@brad61
notK, ya use the heel of your hand it is much more effective
* eelated is also putting n4ked1 on ignore
+Laniakea
1 - You said that I troll.
@brad61
and wont break
+Laniakea
Yes, I troll. As do many other people.
@brad61
heya ee
+Laniakea
Also, much of what I do that is described as trolling is not trolling. It is me sharing my genuinely held, dissenting viewpoints.
It is labeled trolling because we live in a highly anti-intellectual culture that labels all sorts of phenomena with a few words.
@eelated
sup brad
+Laniakea
Leading to imprecision and confusion.
I am sorry if you don't have the emotional fortitude to deal with those times that I do troll.
@brad61
notk, if he was trained, one strike the perp is dead
+Laniakea
I would recommend you accept that on IRC you will experience a lot of trolling.
I can recommend several emotional strategies for you to help manage your emotions when you're experiencing a troll.
@Ziddy
L]
+Laniakea
2 - You said that I ignore I put anybody who responds on ignore.
This claim is false.
Why did you make this false claim?
@brad61
Laniakea, dont test m patience
+Laniakea
Because you're a persistent liar.
brad61: I have no idea what you're talking about.
brad61: I am not interested in your chat vision.
@brad61
Laniakea, you have been kicked from every other channel on irc, we are your last resort, play nice
+Laniakea
My chat vision is 'unadulterated and complete free speech, all of the time'.
brad61: My values do not include playing nice when I do not want to.
My values are 'unadulterated and complete free speech, all of the time'.
@brad61
then be prepared to get shit back Laniakea
+Laniakea
Of course.
I can handle it.
Can you?
@brad61
we wont hesitate
+sbalneav
Laniakea: Is banning someone from a channel free speech?
@brad61
he dont know me
+Laniakea
I encourage you to participate in 'unadulterated and complete free speech, all of the time', brad61
@brad61
if it is a he
+Laniakea
If you'd like to make me the target of that speech, feel free.
sbalneav: no, it is not
+sbalneav
Oh?  Why not?
@Ziddy
  '
+Laniakea
It cannot be symmetrically enforced
@Ziddy
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+sbalneav
Are you saying people aren't allowed to type /ban Laniakea?
+Laniakea
Correct.
@brad61
Laniakea I love free speech, we admire it here, just be prepared to defend it too
+Laniakea
brad61: I am the most robust defender of free speech you've ever met on IRC
Telling me to 'prepared to handle free speech' is unnecessary
+sbalneav
lol
+Laniakea
Literally, you've never met a single person on IRC who values free speech more than me
sbalneav: banning people fails to meet the categorical imperative
@brad61
Laniakea, free speech only goes so far, attacks on people arent welcome, unless it is on maxxi
+sbalneav
Laniakea: How so?
+Laniakea
Attacks on people are free speech
Attacks on people are one of the primary reasons for free speech
@brad61
are they?
+Laniakea
If you're for free speech, but you're not for attacks, then you're not for free speech
Yes
Free speech is designed to protect unpopular speech
Not pleasant speech
@brad61
attack the idea, not the person
+Laniakea
Well, under free speech you can do either
However, let me push back here
This thread began I was typing at n4ked1.
@brad61
yep seems so n4ked1
+Laniakea
Do you perceive I was attacking him as a person?
Because I wasn't.
I was giving an accurate description of his behavior in this room.
@brad61
notk, it is becoming clear
+Laniakea
An accurate description of his behavior is highly unflattering for him.
If he does not like that unflattering, accurate description, he should modify his behavior.
That's the solution -- not me censoring my free speech.
+sbalneav
Laniakea: So we have to conform to your ideas of behaviour?
@brad61
anyone who ignores anyone on irc is an idiot, and never ignore an op
+Laniakea
That is your opinion, brad61.
I have a different opinion.
I encourage you to act in accordance with your opinions, as long as your behavior meets the categorical imperative.
I think that your last opinion does meet the categorical imperative.
As does mine.
@brad61
notk, I will bust his balls for ya
+Laniakea
sbalneav: you're not interested in a genuine conversation
+sbalneav
Laniakea: LOL
+Laniakea
Your last post was a strawman fallacy.
+sbalneav
I've tried MULTIPLE times to engage you
+Laniakea
Your behavior has to conform to the categorical imperative.
I have already stated that
+sbalneav
You "Ignore" me as soon as I refute one of your points.
+Laniakea
Engage me without making fallacies.
@brad61
sbalneav, Laniakea is the ultimate troll, banned cept here
+sbalneav
Well aware.
+Laniakea
Do you know why I am the ultimate troll, brad61?
If somebody asked you, brad61, why is Laniakea the ultimate troll, what would you say.
@brad61
Laniakea it sure isnt cause yu are intelligent
+Laniakea
sbalneav: you frequently make fallacies and you're highly emotionally reactive
This prevents me from having meaningful conversation with you, almost all of the time.
If you prefer to give a different reason that makes you feel better about yourself, I cannot stop you.
@brad61
I like intelligence Laniakea, you dont seem to have the capability
+Laniakea
brad61: I didn't ask what things were the reason
I asked you what the reason was
+sbalneav
Laniakea: No, I've frequently refuted your points, and I ban you when you display the intellectual dishonesty you've justly earned your reputation for.
+Laniakea
Intellectual dishonesty is valid free speech.
+sbalneav
The intellectual dishonesty being: putting someone on "ignore" when they refute your points.
+Laniakea
You should end the conversation with me when you perceive me to be intellectually dishonest.
@brad61
Laniakea, seen ya in action in other channels and why ya got banned, dont do the same shit here
+sbalneav
I do.
I ban you.
+Laniakea
You should not make decisions for entire communities because you're upset.
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+Laniakea
brad61: you appear to be unable to defend your claim
I have asked you twice why "Laniakea is the ultimate troll"
You have not yet provided an answer
I can tell you the reason
Should I just skip to that part
@brad61
Laniakea, I consider you a maxxi clone
Ignoring brad61!*@*
+Laniakea
I put you on ignore, brad61.
+sbalneav
Because you actually doxxed yourself, Laniakea?
brad61: kek
+Laniakea
You are unable to defend claims you are making, which I find unacceptable in a chat partner.
+sbalneav
Welcome to "ignore"
ⓘ brad61 set mode +b *!*@m-b.clients.kiwiirc.com
+Laniakea
brad61: the reason I am the "Ultimate troll" is because I am not a troll.
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