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  2. Saturday, December 03, 2011
  3. 9:41 PM - Ska: spadez has such a large ego
  4. 9:41 PM - Sakura: yeah he's kinda annoying
  5. 9:41 PM - Sakura: i didn't want to pick him up but no other demos were there
  6. 9:45 PM - Ska: he was like
  7. 9:45 PM - Ska: ....
  8. 9:46 PM - Sakura: :o
  9. 9:46 PM - Sakura: i wouldn't want to be on awG though
  10. 9:46 PM - Sakura: with dflame
  11. 9:46 PM - Ska: men, idk what was up with him but this is why I hate pocketing in pugs
  12. 9:46 PM - Ska: like you were good but people are fucking retards some times
  13. 9:47 PM - Sakura: yeah
  14. 9:49 PM - Ska: i still dont understand
  15. 9:49 PM - Ska: why frio got cut
  16. 9:49 PM - Ska: a 7-0 team cutting someone
  17. 9:49 PM - Ska: kind of fuckign retarded to me
  18. 9:49 PM - Sakura: idk
  19. 9:50 PM - Sakura: i think it was just personality conflicts
  20. 9:50 PM - Sakura: i didn't like being in their mumble when i rang for them before
  21. 9:50 PM - Sakura: seemed like they were arguing a lot
  22. 9:51 PM - Ska: I am going to take frio's side
  23. 9:51 PM - Ska: because of dflame is an egotistical idiot
  24. 9:51 PM - Ska: who can never get out of open
  25. Ska is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
  26. 9:52 PM - Sakura: yeah
  27. 9:52 PM - Ska: i just want to tell think we are going to take a shit on his team
  28. 9:52 PM - Sakura: yeah that would've been done regardless lol
  29. Ska is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
  30. Ska is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
  31. 10:31 PM - Ska: idk man, i really like frio and i honestly think he might be right
  32. 10:31 PM - Ska: I have played with all those guys and they seem the kind who have no clue about the meta of the game
  33. 10:31 PM - Ska: like dflame kept trying to run sniper getting no picks
  34. 10:31 PM - Ska: on that last pug
  35. 10:31 PM - Ska: think has awful positioning
  36. 10:32 PM - Sakura: yeah probably
  37. 10:32 PM - Sakura: honestly though i'm surprised with the record they have now :p
  38. 10:32 PM - Ska: so their egos got in the way of someone telling them how to play
  39. 10:32 PM - Sakura: because they seemed just ok in scrims
  40. 10:32 PM - Sakura: even with nonis
  41. 10:32 PM - Ska: well get ready for them to fuck everything up
  42. 10:32 PM - Ska: going 10-6
  43. 10:32 PM - Ska: I am calling it now
  44. 10:33 PM - Sakura: lol
  45. 10:33 PM - Sakura: maybe they'll pick up TLR or something
  46. 10:33 PM - Ska: lul
  47. 10:33 PM - Ska: that would be the worst imo
  48. 10:33 PM - Sakura: gotta get that open championship
  49. 10:33 PM - Ska: cause TLR can't really lead a team
  50. 10:33 PM - Ska: it's why experiment got shit on last lan
  51. 10:33 PM - Ska: too many dmers
  52. 10:33 PM - Ska: not enough people with gamesense
  53. 10:34 PM - Sakura: personally to me it seems to be all about scout combos now
  54. 10:34 PM - Sakura: clockwork/cyzer and enigma/moose seemed a lot scarier than carnage/justin
  55. 10:35 PM - Ska: yeah
  56. 10:35 PM - Ska: and it's looking like that in esea
  57. 10:35 PM - Ska: all of esea*
  58. 10:35 PM - Sakura: yeah
  59. 10:35 PM - Ska: it used to be soldier combos
  60. 10:35 PM - Ska: now the game has kind of changed a bit
  61. 10:35 PM - Sakura: yeah
  62. 10:36 PM - Sakura: gotta win your scout battles
  63. 10:36 PM - Sakura: i hope that it gets better for my team though :< i think we were unlucky the first few matches but who knows what will happen
  64. 10:37 PM - Ska: yeah, I thought the same thing too
  65. 10:37 PM - Ska: yeah, tbh it hurt so bad when we were missing phife
  66. 10:37 PM - Ska: he was a big reason of why we were doing well
  67. 10:37 PM - Sakura: yeah. same with downpour for us
  68. 10:37 PM - Ska: he makes shit easier for SS
  69. 10:37 PM - Sakura: lol
  70. 10:38 PM - Sakura: apparently somethingstupid said that auburn makes some of the worst decisions he has ever seen
  71. 10:38 PM - Ska: SS is honest
  72. 10:38 PM - Ska: he might be right
  73. 10:38 PM - Sakura: this was in a scrim where i couldn't talk
  74. 10:38 PM - Sakura: yeah he is
  75. 10:38 PM - Ska: Auburn is like this
  76. 10:38 PM - Ska: he has better than DM than most soldiers
  77. 10:38 PM - Ska: but a soldier with worse DM and good positioning will shut him down
  78. 10:39 PM - Sakura: yeah
  79. 10:39 PM - Sakura: that and auburn can't really tell when it's a good uber vs a bad uber
  80. 10:39 PM - Sakura: when players are dropping
  81. 10:39 PM - Sakura: he'll still stay in the fight
  82. 10:39 PM - Sakura: etc
  83. 10:39 PM - Ska: if you look at that last game on warmfront there was really no comm's from our scouts or demos
  84. 10:40 PM - Ska: so we had no clue what was happening to them
  85. 10:40 PM - Sakura: well yeah spadez was being an ass
  86. 10:40 PM - Sakura: scouts were just going crazy
  87. 10:40 PM - Sakura: but that's a pug so :P
  88. 10:40 PM - Ska: he is mad at me because I didn't pick him up
  89. 10:40 PM - Sakura: yeah i don't see why anyone would pick up spadez
  90. 10:40 PM - Sakura: he's dumb
  91. 10:41 PM - Ska: it's why our pharmacy match is going to be a joke imo
  92. 10:41 PM - Ska: and bestest video gamers cut eulogy
  93. 10:41 PM - Ska: so that one will be an easy win too
  94. 10:41 PM - Sakura: bestest video gamers is dead i think
  95. 10:41 PM - Sakura: people seem to be leaving the roster
  96. 10:41 PM - Ska: they lost breeloom?
  97. 10:41 PM - Ska: rofl
  98. 10:42 PM - Ska: they are the ones who denied phife and frio btw
  99. 10:42 PM - Ska: to be on their team
  100. 10:42 PM - Sakura: oh
  101. 10:42 PM - Sakura: odd
  102. 10:43 PM - Ska: I have a bit of a beef with jonathan strange
  103. 10:43 PM - Ska: he thinks he is much better than us and he always tries to call me a
  104. 10:43 PM - Ska: "dumb" player
  105. 10:44 PM - Sakura: ah
  106. 10:44 PM - Sakura: lame
  107. 10:44 PM - Ska: scobra as well
  108. 10:44 PM - Sakura: btw you guys ever play lobby footage on gpit?
  109. 10:44 PM - Ska: we did
  110. 10:44 PM - Ska: it was bad
  111. 10:44 PM - Ska: we were kind of learning it
  112. 10:44 PM - Sakura: oh
  113. 10:44 PM - Ska: they play really gay but they can't push
  114. 10:45 PM - Ska: worth a shit
  115. 10:45 PM - Sakura: didn't seem like it
  116. 10:45 PM - Ska: their soldier have sub par DM
  117. 10:45 PM - Ska: soldiers*
  118. 10:45 PM - Ska: it was 1-1 I think then we left
  119. 10:45 PM - Sakura: ok
  120. 10:45 PM - Ska: but yeah, they can defend pretty well
  121. 10:45 PM - Ska: especially C
  122. 10:45 PM - Sakura: hmm
  123. 10:45 PM - Ska: Sal and Jaypee are their best players
  124. 10:45 PM - Ska: good scout combo imo
  125. 10:45 PM - Sakura: yep
  126. 10:46 PM - Ska: sleepy and smarf
  127. 10:46 PM - Ska: they are very,very,very questionable
  128. 10:46 PM - Ska: cosa is okay
  129. 10:46 PM - Sakura: yeah
  130. 10:46 PM - Ska: I mean, when we played them we had subs
  131. 10:46 PM - Ska: we had a scout and medic sub but they seemed decent
  132. 10:46 PM - Sakura: ah ok
  133. 10:47 PM - Sakura: alright thanks
  134. 10:47 PM - Sakura: i gotta go now
  135. 10:47 PM - Ska: alright man
  136. 10:47 PM - Sakura: ttyl
  137. 10:47 PM - Ska: if you need more info
  138. 10:47 PM - Ska: I can help
  139. 10:47 PM - Ska: :)
  140. 10:47 PM - Sakura: yeah
  141. 10:47 PM - Sakura: thanks
  142. Ska is now Offline.
  143. Your state is set to Offline.
  144. Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
  145. Connected again and rejoined chat.
  146. Ska is now Online.
  147. Sunday, December 04, 2011
  148. 12:25 AM - Sakura: hey if you have any more to say about sal's team, that'd be cool :P
  149. 12:25 AM - Ska: mhm
  150. 12:26 AM - Ska: they are the king of turtling
  151. 12:26 AM - Ska: so C will be hard to take
  152. 12:26 AM - Ska: not so much with B
  153. 12:26 AM - Ska: take out the sentry
  154. 12:26 AM - Ska: and focus on taking out Sal and Jaypee first
  155. 12:26 AM - Ska: then their soldiers
  156. 12:26 AM - Ska: well
  157. 12:26 AM - Ska: focus firing
  158. 12:26 AM - Ska: Scouts, then demo
  159. 12:26 AM - Ska: last can be soldiers
  160. 12:26 AM - Ska: their medic has sub par strafing
  161. 12:26 AM - Ska: so bombing him should not be a problem
  162. 12:26 AM - Ska: and he pockets the demo alot
  163. 12:27 AM - Sakura: ok
  164. 12:27 AM - Sakura: yeah that sounds good. we'll probably try to target sal whenever we can
  165. 12:29 AM - Ska: yeah
  166. 12:30 AM - Ska: you take him out
  167. 12:30 AM - Ska: you pretty much drag that whole team's dm down
  168. 12:30 AM - Ska: he will most likely be scouting
  169. 12:30 AM - Ska: and jaypee offclassing
  170. 12:30 AM - Ska: you can go this way if you want
  171. 12:30 AM - Ska: take out their soldiers
  172. 12:30 AM - Ska: but real quick
  173. 12:30 AM - Ska: and have everyone focus their scouts
  174. 12:30 AM - Ska: and ignore the demo and medic
  175. 12:31 AM - Sakura: yeah
  176. 12:31 AM - Sakura: that sounds good since the point of gpit pushes are to get kills
  177. 12:32 AM - Sakura: after watching their demo i think i'm prepared to fight them
  178. 12:32 AM - Sakura: but i'm kinda nervous since this is an important game for us :P
  179. 12:32 AM - Ska: yeah
  180. 12:32 AM - Ska: for both of you guys
  181. 12:32 AM - Ska: you need to control auburn
  182. 12:33 AM - Ska: and he needs to play around your scouts
  183. 12:33 AM - Ska: not chase frags
  184. 12:33 AM - Ska: ESPECIALLY when defending
  185. 12:34 AM - Sakura: yeah. i was wondering whether to put auburn on the roof when defending B since he's pretty good at airshotting
  186. 12:34 AM - Ska: yeah
  187. 12:34 AM - Sakura: but that might be kinda weird
  188. 12:34 AM - Sakura: idk
  189. 12:34 AM - Ska: have frio on the ground
  190. 12:34 AM - Ska: I recommend using shotgun
  191. 12:34 AM - Ska: him watching long and short
  192. 12:34 AM - Ska: closely
  193. 12:35 AM - Sakura: yeah
  194. 12:35 AM - Sakura: sounds good. though i think they will always push long
  195. 12:35 AM - Sakura: since that's what i watched
  196. 12:35 AM - Ska: he needs to not really go for the airshot and got for the stoppage with shotgun
  197. 12:35 AM - Ska: fuck his jump up
  198. 12:35 AM - Ska: a 20 damage shot slows down people quite a bit
  199. 12:36 AM - Ska: a 40 one will completely stop them
  200. 12:36 AM - Sakura: yeah true
  201. 12:37 AM - Ska: I would scrim and have frio pocket for gpit
  202. 12:37 AM - Ska: trying it out for on
  203. 12:37 AM - Ska: one*
  204. 12:37 AM - Ska: to see how it goes
  205. 12:38 AM - Sakura: well it's the only scrim we get for tomorrow :p so i guess we can
  206. 12:38 AM - Ska: lul
  207. 12:38 AM - Ska: I think it will work
  208. 12:38 AM - Sakura: yeah possibly
  209. 12:40 AM - Sakura: i'm just hoping that downpour will go crazy with sniping lol
  210. 12:40 AM - Ska: it can help a ton
  211. 12:40 AM - Ska: you need to have counter heavy strats
  212. 12:40 AM - Ska: ALSO
  213. 12:40 AM - Ska: I highly
  214. 12:40 AM - Ska: highly
  215. 12:40 AM - Ska: highly
  216. 12:40 AM - Ska: recommend both soldier using pain train
  217. 12:40 AM - Ska: for offense
  218. 12:41 AM - Sakura: yeah
  219. 12:41 AM - Sakura: that cap time matters
  220. 12:41 AM - Ska: another thing you can do
  221. 12:41 AM - Ska: is if you wipe them at B
  222. 12:41 AM - Ska: and you have
  223. 12:41 AM - Ska: 5 people
  224. 12:41 AM - Ska: up*
  225. 12:42 AM - Ska: go to c asap
  226. 12:42 AM - Sakura: hmm
  227. 12:42 AM - Ska: block spawns and try to cap C that way
  228. 12:42 AM - Sakura: just go to their spawn?
  229. 12:42 AM - Sakura: ok
  230. 12:42 AM - Ska: have one person go at C
  231. 12:42 AM - Ska: pretty much a back cap
  232. 12:42 AM - Ska: force them to panic
  233. 12:42 AM - Ska: and go out quick
  234. 12:43 AM - Ska: left side of red spawn takes a bit longer to get to the point
  235. 12:43 AM - Ska: and you know where they are coming from which will be easy for the scout to counter
  236. 12:43 AM - Ska: that's only if they all wipe at the same time
  237. 12:43 AM - Ska: and no one is setting up
  238. 12:44 AM - Sakura: yeah
  239. 12:44 AM - Sakura: it definitely saved us a game to know which way they were going up
  240. 12:44 AM - Ska: actually
  241. 12:44 AM - Ska: you dont even need to sticky their spawns
  242. 12:45 AM - Ska: you can sticky the ramps
  243. 12:45 AM - Ska: or the point and bait them in to it
  244. 12:46 AM - Sakura: yeah
  245. 12:46 AM - Sakura: that's true
  246. 12:46 AM - Ska: just the basic concept is delaying time wise
  247. 12:47 AM - Ska: and whoever died can come from A
  248. 12:47 AM - Ska: to jump to point
  249. 12:48 AM - Sakura: yeah
  250. 12:48 AM - Sakura: might be more helpful to sticky the ramps/point
  251. 12:48 AM - Ska: that's the less risky way
  252. 12:48 AM - Ska: but a bit less rewarding
  253. 12:49 AM - Ska: sticking a spawn makes them panic and run out
  254. 12:49 AM - Ska: which they have to run out to go block the point
  255. 12:49 AM - Ska: or setup
  256. 12:50 AM - Sakura: gravelpit cap time is so slow
  257. 12:50 AM - Sakura: one scout on C would be like 8 seconds or so
  258. 12:50 AM - Ska: yeah, but I think C caps pretty quick
  259. 12:50 AM - Ska: not 5 cp maps quick
  260. 12:50 AM - Ska: but
  261. 12:50 AM - Ska: 4-5 seconds
  262. 12:51 AM - Sakura: pretty much all the points in gravelpit seem pretty slow to me
  263. 12:51 AM - Sakura: which is why i don't like to send guys up to the point "just to get time on it"
  264. 12:52 AM - Ska: I know what you mean but it's high risk
  265. 12:52 AM - Ska: high reward kind of moves
  266. 12:52 AM - Ska: if it works
  267. 12:52 AM - Ska: saving yourself 2 minutes
  268. 12:52 AM - Ska: and putting alot of pressure
  269. 12:52 AM - Ska: actually not really that high risk
  270. 12:52 AM - Ska: if you fail, then you still get B
  271. 12:52 AM - Sakura: oh well i agree with you on moving up to C
  272. 12:52 AM - Ska: and have some time to buing
  273. 12:52 AM - Sakura: if they're wiped
  274. 12:52 AM - Ska: build*
  275. 12:52 AM - Sakura: i'm talking about normal pushes
  276. 12:52 AM - Ska: and rework it
  277. 12:53 AM - Ska: normal push it's kind of like
  278. 12:53 AM - Ska: I know for that team you need to run a sniper
  279. 12:53 AM - Ska: and running an engineer will help too
  280. 12:53 AM - Ska: there will be a few fail pushes
  281. 12:53 AM - Sakura: how do you guys run engineer?
  282. 12:53 AM - Sakura: that's something that seemed kinda weird when we were trying it
  283. 12:54 AM - Ska: he builds his sentry
  284. 12:54 AM - Ska: carries it out of main or or 1/2
  285. 12:54 AM - Ska: pocket and medic comes out of left and uber on to them to distract
  286. 12:54 AM - Sakura: ah ok
  287. 12:55 AM - Ska: so you can drop it low
  288. 12:55 AM - Ska: even if it gets destroyed it's supposed to be a bait tactic
  289. 12:55 AM - Ska: for a soldier to jump uncontested
  290. 12:55 AM - Sakura: yeah that's a good idea
  291. 12:55 AM - Sakura: then with the teleporter
  292. 12:55 AM - Sakura: you can just jump back in if the numbers look good
  293. 12:55 AM - Ska: exactly
  294. 12:55 AM - Ska: you take out 5
  295. 12:56 AM - Ska: 8 second spawn
  296. 12:56 AM - Ska: BOOM
  297. 12:56 AM - Sakura: yeah
  298. 12:56 AM - Sakura: sounds good
  299. 12:56 AM - Ska: running a spy to really focus on their heavy might help too
  300. 12:56 AM - Sakura: yeah if things aren't working it could help
  301. 12:56 AM - Sakura: downpour is a good spy
  302. 12:56 AM - Ska: also
  303. 12:56 AM - Sakura: brb
  304. 12:56 AM - Ska: kk
  305. 1:04 AM - Sakura: back
  306. Ska is now Away.
  307. Ska is now Online.
  308. 1:11 AM - Ska: also
  309. 1:11 AM - Ska: another good strat for defending C
  310. 1:11 AM - Ska: is setting up a tele on the back of C
  311. 1:12 AM - Sakura: yeah if the engie has time to do that, it'd be good
  312. 1:12 AM - Sakura: but usually we don't
  313. 1:12 AM - Ska: yeah, only if he has enough time
  314. 1:12 AM - Ska: sentry comes second imo
  315. 1:12 AM - Ska: and he should set it up on the left with combo
  316. 1:13 AM - Ska: left ramp*
  317. 1:15 AM - Sakura: ok
  318. 1:15 AM - Sakura: so combo should stay by sentry then
  319. 1:16 AM - Ska: yeah
  320. 1:16 AM - Ska: just to be annoying pricks and make it harder for them to take it out
  321. 1:16 AM - Ska: remember that coming out from left or main means they have to take out that sentry
  322. 1:17 AM - Ska: or you can't jump point
  323. 1:18 AM - Sakura: they have to or we have to?
  324. 1:18 AM - Ska: they have to*
  325. 1:18 AM - Ska: and most teams get fucked up on timing due to that sentry
  326. 1:19 AM - Sakura: i know that their combo when defending C likes to hold on the right ramp near spawn
  327. Ska is now Offline.
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