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- Saturday, December 03, 2011
- 9:41 PM - Ska: spadez has such a large ego
- 9:41 PM - Sakura: yeah he's kinda annoying
- 9:41 PM - Sakura: i didn't want to pick him up but no other demos were there
- 9:45 PM - Ska: he was like
- 9:45 PM - Ska: ....
- 9:46 PM - Sakura: :o
- 9:46 PM - Sakura: i wouldn't want to be on awG though
- 9:46 PM - Sakura: with dflame
- 9:46 PM - Ska: men, idk what was up with him but this is why I hate pocketing in pugs
- 9:46 PM - Ska: like you were good but people are fucking retards some times
- 9:47 PM - Sakura: yeah
- 9:49 PM - Ska: i still dont understand
- 9:49 PM - Ska: why frio got cut
- 9:49 PM - Ska: a 7-0 team cutting someone
- 9:49 PM - Ska: kind of fuckign retarded to me
- 9:49 PM - Sakura: idk
- 9:50 PM - Sakura: i think it was just personality conflicts
- 9:50 PM - Sakura: i didn't like being in their mumble when i rang for them before
- 9:50 PM - Sakura: seemed like they were arguing a lot
- 9:51 PM - Ska: I am going to take frio's side
- 9:51 PM - Ska: because of dflame is an egotistical idiot
- 9:51 PM - Ska: who can never get out of open
- Ska is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- 9:52 PM - Sakura: yeah
- 9:52 PM - Ska: i just want to tell think we are going to take a shit on his team
- 9:52 PM - Sakura: yeah that would've been done regardless lol
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- 10:31 PM - Ska: idk man, i really like frio and i honestly think he might be right
- 10:31 PM - Ska: I have played with all those guys and they seem the kind who have no clue about the meta of the game
- 10:31 PM - Ska: like dflame kept trying to run sniper getting no picks
- 10:31 PM - Ska: on that last pug
- 10:31 PM - Ska: think has awful positioning
- 10:32 PM - Sakura: yeah probably
- 10:32 PM - Sakura: honestly though i'm surprised with the record they have now :p
- 10:32 PM - Ska: so their egos got in the way of someone telling them how to play
- 10:32 PM - Sakura: because they seemed just ok in scrims
- 10:32 PM - Sakura: even with nonis
- 10:32 PM - Ska: well get ready for them to fuck everything up
- 10:32 PM - Ska: going 10-6
- 10:32 PM - Ska: I am calling it now
- 10:33 PM - Sakura: lol
- 10:33 PM - Sakura: maybe they'll pick up TLR or something
- 10:33 PM - Ska: lul
- 10:33 PM - Ska: that would be the worst imo
- 10:33 PM - Sakura: gotta get that open championship
- 10:33 PM - Ska: cause TLR can't really lead a team
- 10:33 PM - Ska: it's why experiment got shit on last lan
- 10:33 PM - Ska: too many dmers
- 10:33 PM - Ska: not enough people with gamesense
- 10:34 PM - Sakura: personally to me it seems to be all about scout combos now
- 10:34 PM - Sakura: clockwork/cyzer and enigma/moose seemed a lot scarier than carnage/justin
- 10:35 PM - Ska: yeah
- 10:35 PM - Ska: and it's looking like that in esea
- 10:35 PM - Ska: all of esea*
- 10:35 PM - Sakura: yeah
- 10:35 PM - Ska: it used to be soldier combos
- 10:35 PM - Ska: now the game has kind of changed a bit
- 10:35 PM - Sakura: yeah
- 10:36 PM - Sakura: gotta win your scout battles
- 10:36 PM - Sakura: i hope that it gets better for my team though :< i think we were unlucky the first few matches but who knows what will happen
- 10:37 PM - Ska: yeah, I thought the same thing too
- 10:37 PM - Ska: yeah, tbh it hurt so bad when we were missing phife
- 10:37 PM - Ska: he was a big reason of why we were doing well
- 10:37 PM - Sakura: yeah. same with downpour for us
- 10:37 PM - Ska: he makes shit easier for SS
- 10:37 PM - Sakura: lol
- 10:38 PM - Sakura: apparently somethingstupid said that auburn makes some of the worst decisions he has ever seen
- 10:38 PM - Ska: SS is honest
- 10:38 PM - Ska: he might be right
- 10:38 PM - Sakura: this was in a scrim where i couldn't talk
- 10:38 PM - Sakura: yeah he is
- 10:38 PM - Ska: Auburn is like this
- 10:38 PM - Ska: he has better than DM than most soldiers
- 10:38 PM - Ska: but a soldier with worse DM and good positioning will shut him down
- 10:39 PM - Sakura: yeah
- 10:39 PM - Sakura: that and auburn can't really tell when it's a good uber vs a bad uber
- 10:39 PM - Sakura: when players are dropping
- 10:39 PM - Sakura: he'll still stay in the fight
- 10:39 PM - Sakura: etc
- 10:39 PM - Ska: if you look at that last game on warmfront there was really no comm's from our scouts or demos
- 10:40 PM - Ska: so we had no clue what was happening to them
- 10:40 PM - Sakura: well yeah spadez was being an ass
- 10:40 PM - Sakura: scouts were just going crazy
- 10:40 PM - Sakura: but that's a pug so :P
- 10:40 PM - Ska: he is mad at me because I didn't pick him up
- 10:40 PM - Sakura: yeah i don't see why anyone would pick up spadez
- 10:40 PM - Sakura: he's dumb
- 10:41 PM - Ska: it's why our pharmacy match is going to be a joke imo
- 10:41 PM - Ska: and bestest video gamers cut eulogy
- 10:41 PM - Ska: so that one will be an easy win too
- 10:41 PM - Sakura: bestest video gamers is dead i think
- 10:41 PM - Sakura: people seem to be leaving the roster
- 10:41 PM - Ska: they lost breeloom?
- 10:41 PM - Ska: rofl
- 10:42 PM - Ska: they are the ones who denied phife and frio btw
- 10:42 PM - Ska: to be on their team
- 10:42 PM - Sakura: oh
- 10:42 PM - Sakura: odd
- 10:43 PM - Ska: I have a bit of a beef with jonathan strange
- 10:43 PM - Ska: he thinks he is much better than us and he always tries to call me a
- 10:43 PM - Ska: "dumb" player
- 10:44 PM - Sakura: ah
- 10:44 PM - Sakura: lame
- 10:44 PM - Ska: scobra as well
- 10:44 PM - Sakura: btw you guys ever play lobby footage on gpit?
- 10:44 PM - Ska: we did
- 10:44 PM - Ska: it was bad
- 10:44 PM - Ska: we were kind of learning it
- 10:44 PM - Sakura: oh
- 10:44 PM - Ska: they play really gay but they can't push
- 10:45 PM - Ska: worth a shit
- 10:45 PM - Sakura: didn't seem like it
- 10:45 PM - Ska: their soldier have sub par DM
- 10:45 PM - Ska: soldiers*
- 10:45 PM - Ska: it was 1-1 I think then we left
- 10:45 PM - Sakura: ok
- 10:45 PM - Ska: but yeah, they can defend pretty well
- 10:45 PM - Ska: especially C
- 10:45 PM - Sakura: hmm
- 10:45 PM - Ska: Sal and Jaypee are their best players
- 10:45 PM - Ska: good scout combo imo
- 10:45 PM - Sakura: yep
- 10:46 PM - Ska: sleepy and smarf
- 10:46 PM - Ska: they are very,very,very questionable
- 10:46 PM - Ska: cosa is okay
- 10:46 PM - Sakura: yeah
- 10:46 PM - Ska: I mean, when we played them we had subs
- 10:46 PM - Ska: we had a scout and medic sub but they seemed decent
- 10:46 PM - Sakura: ah ok
- 10:47 PM - Sakura: alright thanks
- 10:47 PM - Sakura: i gotta go now
- 10:47 PM - Ska: alright man
- 10:47 PM - Sakura: ttyl
- 10:47 PM - Ska: if you need more info
- 10:47 PM - Ska: I can help
- 10:47 PM - Ska: :)
- 10:47 PM - Sakura: yeah
- 10:47 PM - Sakura: thanks
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- Sunday, December 04, 2011
- 12:25 AM - Sakura: hey if you have any more to say about sal's team, that'd be cool :P
- 12:25 AM - Ska: mhm
- 12:26 AM - Ska: they are the king of turtling
- 12:26 AM - Ska: so C will be hard to take
- 12:26 AM - Ska: not so much with B
- 12:26 AM - Ska: take out the sentry
- 12:26 AM - Ska: and focus on taking out Sal and Jaypee first
- 12:26 AM - Ska: then their soldiers
- 12:26 AM - Ska: well
- 12:26 AM - Ska: focus firing
- 12:26 AM - Ska: Scouts, then demo
- 12:26 AM - Ska: last can be soldiers
- 12:26 AM - Ska: their medic has sub par strafing
- 12:26 AM - Ska: so bombing him should not be a problem
- 12:26 AM - Ska: and he pockets the demo alot
- 12:27 AM - Sakura: ok
- 12:27 AM - Sakura: yeah that sounds good. we'll probably try to target sal whenever we can
- 12:29 AM - Ska: yeah
- 12:30 AM - Ska: you take him out
- 12:30 AM - Ska: you pretty much drag that whole team's dm down
- 12:30 AM - Ska: he will most likely be scouting
- 12:30 AM - Ska: and jaypee offclassing
- 12:30 AM - Ska: you can go this way if you want
- 12:30 AM - Ska: take out their soldiers
- 12:30 AM - Ska: but real quick
- 12:30 AM - Ska: and have everyone focus their scouts
- 12:30 AM - Ska: and ignore the demo and medic
- 12:31 AM - Sakura: yeah
- 12:31 AM - Sakura: that sounds good since the point of gpit pushes are to get kills
- 12:32 AM - Sakura: after watching their demo i think i'm prepared to fight them
- 12:32 AM - Sakura: but i'm kinda nervous since this is an important game for us :P
- 12:32 AM - Ska: yeah
- 12:32 AM - Ska: for both of you guys
- 12:32 AM - Ska: you need to control auburn
- 12:33 AM - Ska: and he needs to play around your scouts
- 12:33 AM - Ska: not chase frags
- 12:33 AM - Ska: ESPECIALLY when defending
- 12:34 AM - Sakura: yeah. i was wondering whether to put auburn on the roof when defending B since he's pretty good at airshotting
- 12:34 AM - Ska: yeah
- 12:34 AM - Sakura: but that might be kinda weird
- 12:34 AM - Sakura: idk
- 12:34 AM - Ska: have frio on the ground
- 12:34 AM - Ska: I recommend using shotgun
- 12:34 AM - Ska: him watching long and short
- 12:34 AM - Ska: closely
- 12:35 AM - Sakura: yeah
- 12:35 AM - Sakura: sounds good. though i think they will always push long
- 12:35 AM - Sakura: since that's what i watched
- 12:35 AM - Ska: he needs to not really go for the airshot and got for the stoppage with shotgun
- 12:35 AM - Ska: fuck his jump up
- 12:35 AM - Ska: a 20 damage shot slows down people quite a bit
- 12:36 AM - Ska: a 40 one will completely stop them
- 12:36 AM - Sakura: yeah true
- 12:37 AM - Ska: I would scrim and have frio pocket for gpit
- 12:37 AM - Ska: trying it out for on
- 12:37 AM - Ska: one*
- 12:37 AM - Ska: to see how it goes
- 12:38 AM - Sakura: well it's the only scrim we get for tomorrow :p so i guess we can
- 12:38 AM - Ska: lul
- 12:38 AM - Ska: I think it will work
- 12:38 AM - Sakura: yeah possibly
- 12:40 AM - Sakura: i'm just hoping that downpour will go crazy with sniping lol
- 12:40 AM - Ska: it can help a ton
- 12:40 AM - Ska: you need to have counter heavy strats
- 12:40 AM - Ska: ALSO
- 12:40 AM - Ska: I highly
- 12:40 AM - Ska: highly
- 12:40 AM - Ska: highly
- 12:40 AM - Ska: recommend both soldier using pain train
- 12:40 AM - Ska: for offense
- 12:41 AM - Sakura: yeah
- 12:41 AM - Sakura: that cap time matters
- 12:41 AM - Ska: another thing you can do
- 12:41 AM - Ska: is if you wipe them at B
- 12:41 AM - Ska: and you have
- 12:41 AM - Ska: 5 people
- 12:41 AM - Ska: up*
- 12:42 AM - Ska: go to c asap
- 12:42 AM - Sakura: hmm
- 12:42 AM - Ska: block spawns and try to cap C that way
- 12:42 AM - Sakura: just go to their spawn?
- 12:42 AM - Sakura: ok
- 12:42 AM - Ska: have one person go at C
- 12:42 AM - Ska: pretty much a back cap
- 12:42 AM - Ska: force them to panic
- 12:42 AM - Ska: and go out quick
- 12:43 AM - Ska: left side of red spawn takes a bit longer to get to the point
- 12:43 AM - Ska: and you know where they are coming from which will be easy for the scout to counter
- 12:43 AM - Ska: that's only if they all wipe at the same time
- 12:43 AM - Ska: and no one is setting up
- 12:44 AM - Sakura: yeah
- 12:44 AM - Sakura: it definitely saved us a game to know which way they were going up
- 12:44 AM - Ska: actually
- 12:44 AM - Ska: you dont even need to sticky their spawns
- 12:45 AM - Ska: you can sticky the ramps
- 12:45 AM - Ska: or the point and bait them in to it
- 12:46 AM - Sakura: yeah
- 12:46 AM - Sakura: that's true
- 12:46 AM - Ska: just the basic concept is delaying time wise
- 12:47 AM - Ska: and whoever died can come from A
- 12:47 AM - Ska: to jump to point
- 12:48 AM - Sakura: yeah
- 12:48 AM - Sakura: might be more helpful to sticky the ramps/point
- 12:48 AM - Ska: that's the less risky way
- 12:48 AM - Ska: but a bit less rewarding
- 12:49 AM - Ska: sticking a spawn makes them panic and run out
- 12:49 AM - Ska: which they have to run out to go block the point
- 12:49 AM - Ska: or setup
- 12:50 AM - Sakura: gravelpit cap time is so slow
- 12:50 AM - Sakura: one scout on C would be like 8 seconds or so
- 12:50 AM - Ska: yeah, but I think C caps pretty quick
- 12:50 AM - Ska: not 5 cp maps quick
- 12:50 AM - Ska: but
- 12:50 AM - Ska: 4-5 seconds
- 12:51 AM - Sakura: pretty much all the points in gravelpit seem pretty slow to me
- 12:51 AM - Sakura: which is why i don't like to send guys up to the point "just to get time on it"
- 12:52 AM - Ska: I know what you mean but it's high risk
- 12:52 AM - Ska: high reward kind of moves
- 12:52 AM - Ska: if it works
- 12:52 AM - Ska: saving yourself 2 minutes
- 12:52 AM - Ska: and putting alot of pressure
- 12:52 AM - Ska: actually not really that high risk
- 12:52 AM - Ska: if you fail, then you still get B
- 12:52 AM - Sakura: oh well i agree with you on moving up to C
- 12:52 AM - Ska: and have some time to buing
- 12:52 AM - Sakura: if they're wiped
- 12:52 AM - Ska: build*
- 12:52 AM - Sakura: i'm talking about normal pushes
- 12:52 AM - Ska: and rework it
- 12:53 AM - Ska: normal push it's kind of like
- 12:53 AM - Ska: I know for that team you need to run a sniper
- 12:53 AM - Ska: and running an engineer will help too
- 12:53 AM - Ska: there will be a few fail pushes
- 12:53 AM - Sakura: how do you guys run engineer?
- 12:53 AM - Sakura: that's something that seemed kinda weird when we were trying it
- 12:54 AM - Ska: he builds his sentry
- 12:54 AM - Ska: carries it out of main or or 1/2
- 12:54 AM - Ska: pocket and medic comes out of left and uber on to them to distract
- 12:54 AM - Sakura: ah ok
- 12:55 AM - Ska: so you can drop it low
- 12:55 AM - Ska: even if it gets destroyed it's supposed to be a bait tactic
- 12:55 AM - Ska: for a soldier to jump uncontested
- 12:55 AM - Sakura: yeah that's a good idea
- 12:55 AM - Sakura: then with the teleporter
- 12:55 AM - Sakura: you can just jump back in if the numbers look good
- 12:55 AM - Ska: exactly
- 12:55 AM - Ska: you take out 5
- 12:56 AM - Ska: 8 second spawn
- 12:56 AM - Ska: BOOM
- 12:56 AM - Sakura: yeah
- 12:56 AM - Sakura: sounds good
- 12:56 AM - Ska: running a spy to really focus on their heavy might help too
- 12:56 AM - Sakura: yeah if things aren't working it could help
- 12:56 AM - Sakura: downpour is a good spy
- 12:56 AM - Ska: also
- 12:56 AM - Sakura: brb
- 12:56 AM - Ska: kk
- 1:04 AM - Sakura: back
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- 1:11 AM - Ska: also
- 1:11 AM - Ska: another good strat for defending C
- 1:11 AM - Ska: is setting up a tele on the back of C
- 1:12 AM - Sakura: yeah if the engie has time to do that, it'd be good
- 1:12 AM - Sakura: but usually we don't
- 1:12 AM - Ska: yeah, only if he has enough time
- 1:12 AM - Ska: sentry comes second imo
- 1:12 AM - Ska: and he should set it up on the left with combo
- 1:13 AM - Ska: left ramp*
- 1:15 AM - Sakura: ok
- 1:15 AM - Sakura: so combo should stay by sentry then
- 1:16 AM - Ska: yeah
- 1:16 AM - Ska: just to be annoying pricks and make it harder for them to take it out
- 1:16 AM - Ska: remember that coming out from left or main means they have to take out that sentry
- 1:17 AM - Ska: or you can't jump point
- 1:18 AM - Sakura: they have to or we have to?
- 1:18 AM - Ska: they have to*
- 1:18 AM - Ska: and most teams get fucked up on timing due to that sentry
- 1:19 AM - Sakura: i know that their combo when defending C likes to hold on the right ramp near spawn
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