[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: wow spawning bullets on me :(
[303] Flandre Scarlet: rip
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: reisen's bomb is amazing though
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and apparently having a sense of self is also impure under lunar law
[303] Flandre Scarlet: wat
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: i dont no
[303] Flandre Scarlet: lunarians pls
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: stage 3 boss was yapping about reisen going to moon
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: saying she had earthliness because of purpose or self or watver
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and was therefor impure
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: might just be lunarian lunacy though
[303] Flandre Scarlet: yeah
[303] Flandre Scarlet: you know
[303] Flandre Scarlet: yukari does consider fighting lunarians to be pointless
[303] Flandre Scarlet: so wat if she's just like 'k no'
[303] Flandre Scarlet: and doesn't show up
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: considering that one lunarian goddess might be stronger than her
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: maybe
[303] Flandre Scarlet: in that sort of thing it's probably an issue of who hits first
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: ye
[303] Flandre Scarlet: unless yukari's gap-space counts as 'outside' the world and makes her immune to attack
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: it probably doesn't unless yukari specifically makes it to be
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and then lunarian goddess can just say "well ur space is unaffected by my power"
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and bam
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: although lunarians and yukari might be under some sort of treaty
[303] Flandre Scarlet: ya but my theory with that
[303] Flandre Scarlet: is that goddess power only works on stuff >in< the world
[303] Flandre Scarlet: if gap-space is outside of the world, then goddess power cannot affect it regardless of what goddess does
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: maybe
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: although no wait
[303] Flandre Scarlet: since it specifically mentions changing the world
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: lunarians, while they wait for earth to be cleansed, are in the dream world due to the goddess' power
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: i think
[303] Flandre Scarlet: hmm
[303] Flandre Scarlet: depends
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: plot isn't fully fleshed out yet but pretty sure that's the case
[303] Flandre Scarlet: i feel like itd be a bad idea to start messing with gapspace tho
[303] Flandre Scarlet: isn't it like
[303] Flandre Scarlet: the space between worlds or something?
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: i think it's yukari's own dimension
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: because she can do that
[303] Flandre Scarlet: probably just like
[303] Flandre Scarlet: drew a circle and used that boundary to make a dimension or something
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: could have made her dimension from the boundary between worlds
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: so would be the space between worlds but not really
[303] Flandre Scarlet: i suspect goddess couldn't win against yukari if they both went all out but i donno
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: depends on who strikes first
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: all goddess has to do is say "you're alive!"
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and you die
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: i dunno though, she must have limits
[303] Flandre Scarlet: yeah
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: because she doesn't outright purify the earth
[303] Flandre Scarlet: yukari doesn't /really/ have a limit from what we've seen?
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: nope
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: going to the moon? no issue
[303] Flandre Scarlet: the theory was that she couldn't outright create or destroy boundaries but that was never confirmed or denied, iirc
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: going to the real moon? no issue
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: throwing trains from the real world at people during a fight? yup
[303] Flandre Scarlet: seems that yukari keeps her place as most powerful person in the setting, though
[303] Flandre Scarlet: seriously
[303] Flandre Scarlet: gensokyo's under siege from the fucking moon
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: fighting lunar goddess right now actually
[303] Flandre Scarlet: the people who yukari admitted it was pointless to invade
[303] Flandre Scarlet: so like
[303] Flandre Scarlet: wat r u doin yukari
[303] Flandre Scarlet: halp pls
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: invading and being invaded are two different scenarios though
[303] Flandre Scarlet: true
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: invading the moon is a lot harder than defending from the moon
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: especially because earth links to the moon only during full moon, whereas moon can get to earth at any time
[303] Flandre Scarlet: unless you're yukari, in which case you have 10 different ways to get there
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: maybe
[303] Flandre Scarlet: 1) gapspace bcuz lel gapspace
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: though she's only actually invaded during a full moon
[303] Flandre Scarlet: 2) modify time!
[303] Flandre Scarlet: maybe gapspace is bad for others?
[303] Flandre Scarlet: like 'lol u r kill'
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: youmu and yuyuko have entered gapspace though
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: atleast to get to the moon, that is
[303] Flandre Scarlet: mm
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and the first lunar war used gapspace entirely
[303] Flandre Scarlet: so not hostile
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: maybe it can be made hostile
[303] Flandre Scarlet: if it's yukari's dimension that's a good bet
[303] Flandre Scarlet: dimensions tend to obey their owners
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: it might also be that the "gapspace" used wasn't actually traveling through gapspace
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: but rather just going through a portal
[303] Flandre Scarlet: tru
[303] Flandre Scarlet: i have a feeling that out of all the people who are holding back, yukari is holding back the most
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: of course
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: if yukari wasn't under spellcard rules, nothing could beat her
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: except maybe reimu
[303] Flandre Scarlet: goddess shouldn't be holding back; makes no sense
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: reimu is, according to wiki and official art books
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: required to be under spellcard rules
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: because she is unbeatable
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: or something
[303] Flandre Scarlet: bcuz she's got that weird 'lol im exist but not rlly u cant hit me' thing
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: maybe not because of her power, but rather just because she's the shrine maiden
[303] Flandre Scarlet: yeah
[303] Flandre Scarlet: tho i suspect if yukari was legitimately not holding back at all, as in, fuck you i am going to kill this person, fuck the consequences, she could probably nerf reimu
[303] Flandre Scarlet: whether gensokyo would survive that is another matter
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: although by that same logic, the moriya shrinemaiden what's-her-name would also be unbeatable...
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: actually lunagoddess seems only to affect, or atleast have most power over actual world
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: as she just said "lunarians haven't realized that they're in dreamworld"
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: which would make them realize onowe'redream!
[303] Flandre Scarlet: my suspicion is that the shrine maidens are only 'unbeatable' so long as the shrines they're attached to are intact
[303] Flandre Scarlet: probably wrong tho
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: reimu gets no faith literally
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: it's a miracle she has any power
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: she's strange
[303] Flandre Scarlet: wasn't that shrine like
[303] Flandre Scarlet: the keystone of the great barrier or something
[303] Flandre Scarlet: it's probably leeching power from that
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: her shrine in the real world is a wreck
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: sitting unknown in the mountains somewhere
[303] Flandre Scarlet: the one in gensokyo, not real world
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: i think it's just the ying-yang orbs reimu has
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: they're supposed to house the shrine's god or something
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: it's also possible that yukari is the shrine's god
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: nobody knooowss
[303] Flandre Scarlet: that seems like it would be trivially easy for yukari to separate from reimu or outright destroy, to be honest
[303] Flandre Scarlet: yukari is a bundle of secrets
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: yuyuko's pretty mysterious too
[303] Flandre Scarlet: doesn't reimu have some bastardized mutant form of boundary manipulation?
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: sorta
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: yukari is teaching reimu things
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: such as summoning gods and basic boundry manip
[303] Flandre Scarlet: mm
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: wait a second
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: lunarians are using spell card rules in this
[303] Flandre Scarlet: ...didn't yukari make a deal with remilia or something to build those?
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: ya
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: but lunarians weren't included
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: because lunarians were never expected to do anything to earth, because earth is impurity
[303] Flandre Scarlet: theory: spellcard rules aren't just rules.  they're restrictions built into the great barrier/gensokyo that apply to anyone within it
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: nono
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: im in the capital right now on the last spell card of the goddess
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: (which is painfully easy)
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: oo
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: thank you lunar goddess
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: so plot;
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: lunarians are being invaded, main power being used against them is life
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: which lunarians can't touch because reasons
[303] Flandre Scarlet: wut.
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: life is impure
[303] Flandre Scarlet: LUNARIAN ZOMBIES CONFIRMED
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: because of death
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: or something like that
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: so lunarians can't touch them
[303] Flandre Scarlet: nowait
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: so ENTIRE CAPITAL is put into stasis in dream world
[303] Flandre Scarlet: lunarian liches confirmed
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: with everyone being evacuated to it
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and the sage plans to purify gensokyo (and earth?) to build new capital there
[303] Flandre Scarlet: so they plan to nerf life, and by extension death?
[303] Flandre Scarlet: wot
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: lunarians are weird
[303] Flandre Scarlet: 'weird'
[303] Flandre Scarlet: understatement of the fucking century
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: maybe the wiki page explains it better
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Lunarian
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Impurity
[303] Flandre Scarlet: um.
[303] Flandre Scarlet: k
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: their supposed to be immortal but not immortal i think?
[303] Flandre Scarlet: its like, in typemoon stuff theres a lot of concept stuff
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: but drinking the hourai elixer that makes someone immortal also makes someone impure because the removal of death from the person?
[303] Flandre Scarlet: some of the stuff in one series is like
[303] Flandre Scarlet: 'unkillable', sort of, kind of
[303] Flandre Scarlet: because it doesnt have a concept of 'death' as it exists on gaia
[303] Flandre Scarlet: so you have to physically destroy it, instead of poisoning it or shooting it in a specific spot
[303] Flandre Scarlet: nasuverse is /weird/
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: it's probably better to find out the actual japanese mythos definition for the impurity and lunarians than touhou
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: but im too lazy
[303] Flandre Scarlet: probably
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: the day virtual reality reaches the point where it is extremely hard if not impossible to distinguish it from reality will be the best of days
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: remake the universe except with touhou
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: no one knows it's there
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: but it's still there
[303] Flandre Scarlet: >chief
[303] Flandre Scarlet: >y does this exist
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: just dont get lost in forests
[303] Flandre Scarlet: >suddenly: cirno
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: because suddenly you're in gensokyo
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and you're about to be eaten
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: 10/10 lunar goddess
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: "Because I just told you about the plan, we can't relocate to Gensokyo anymore"
[303] Flandre Scarlet: wut
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: literally what she just said
[303] Flandre Scarlet: i
[303] Flandre Scarlet: i fucking
[303] Flandre Scarlet: i give up
[303] Flandre Scarlet: fuck it
[303] Flandre Scarlet: th15's plot makes no sense
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: well she just explained to reisen (for me) the lunarians plan
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: so according to her power they can't do that anymore
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: maybe it was planned though?
[303] Flandre Scarlet: WAIT
[303] Flandre Scarlet: "we can't relocate to gensokyo anymore"
[303] Flandre Scarlet: remember who you're talking to.
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: lunarians are the biggest enigma in the universe
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: freaking lunar goddess
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: they still don't though because issue is resolved at end of the game
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: but freaking "lol jokes on u"
[303] Flandre Scarlet: k
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: wait
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: stage five
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: lunar goddess was stage four
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and i haven't encountered the fairy boss yet
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: wtf fairy is stronger than lunar goddess
[303] Flandre Scarlet: wat
[303] Flandre Scarlet: i
[303] Flandre Scarlet: uh
[303] Flandre Scarlet: um.
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: cirno sucks now
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: she used to be the strongest :(
[303] Flandre Scarlet: inb4 cirno meets fairy and curbstomps, bcuz fairy was only good on the moon
[303] Flandre Scarlet: or some equally weird bullshit
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: it's probably that
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: because lunarians wouldn't be able to touch fairy because imbued with life (according to lunar goddess?)
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: also this stage is amazing
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: fighting on the moon
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: wow hi earth in background
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and hi clownpiece
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: and y u no midboss fight :(
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: sweet jesus there's a lot of lasers in this stage
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: http://puu.sh/jM2IT/cc07cf1c7a.jpg
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: i guess that explains why the lunarians can't fite the fairies?
[303] Flandre Scarlet: yeah, i guess
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: also first spell card is a survival spell card
[東方] Koishi Komeiji [303]: fak.