Transcript of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3R41dGnU
original, untranslated video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXozpbomAns
Hi everyone, I am Chen Qiushi
It's now Jan 30th, 11AM something
The video today might be a bit long. I'll be more talkative
Sorry about that
My videos before were usually vertical and below 5 mins
Because my main audience is mainland Chinese
I am not too focused on how audience abroad will view the video
vertical video is more the Mainland Chinese way of viewing videos
5 mins is the longest Wechat can load
So I had wished people would download them and spread them on Wechat
When I was talking about rule of law, equality, checks and balances...
This time in Wuhan
I've seen a lot. It's my 6th day in Wuhan.
My name has been flagged in China
If the content contains "Chenqiushi" or "CQS"
or my face
It will not be sent on Wechat
Many people told me
Anybody who spread my video, will have their account deleted
Because there have been a lot of rumors on Wechat
You can watch this video
I don't recommend forwarding it on Wechat
Because if you do, your wechat account will be deleted, like mine
I have lost contact with many people
Today it's the 30th. Let me talk about my experience in the pat couple of days
My first two days in Wuhan, I went to
Wuhan Central Hospital (on New Year's Eve)
I went to No.11 hospital twice
I went to supermarkets in Wuhan
I went with volunteers to donate supplies, to Xiehe Hospital
I went to the construction site of Huoshenshan Hospital
This is a while back
I went to Wuhan's No.5 People's Hospital
The place where many doctors are rumored to have been infected
I can't...it's impossible to ask the doctors
"Did your colleagues get infected?"
Doctors are busy. And it's impossible for me to interview leaders of the hospital
None of them will take interviews
Becuase...I heard..that all medical workers received orders not to take interviews
In some hospitals, they confiscate doctors' phones
keeping them from spreading news
Now we already know, the 8 "rumormongers" arrested at the beginning.
Seems like they are all doctors
They talked about the virus in their wechat groups
I made a video a few days back, saying
civilian groups in Wuhan are disorganized
Soon I was proven wrong, some volunteer groups reached out
Some drove medical workers to work
Some are in charge of transporting and unloading goods
Because there are supplies coming in from Wuhan
They are in charge of unloading them and sending them to the hospitals
That's what the volunteers are doing
I added them on Wechat, I will participate in their activity
But I could see...they are under tremendous workload
The volunteers have a lot to complain, they don't have it easy
The Chinese public don't trust the Red Cross
So they sent small packages to the hospitals
We saw, in the hospitals' receiving room
There were many small packages. But in fact they are very inefficient
Think about it, hospitals have to get workers to open them one by one
Masks, hazmat suits, of different models, different types
Different qualities...they have it all
They had to categorize them, inspect them, figure out how to use them
The best way is of course from org to org
A truckload directly to the hospital. This is the best scenario
Volunteers had to help with these things. Small packages from all over the nation
It's already a lot to do
I saw a volunteer's wechat moment
saying that the police is asking them for supplies
He was saying "where are all the donations received by the government?"
Why is the government asking us civilian groups for supplies?
The situation is still...a mess
Like I said, I visited people on the Huoshenshan Hospital construction site
Workers on the site are working so hard
Workers are on 2 or 3 shifts, working 24 hours
Mid- to low-level managers, unlike workers,
They have no time to rest
When they saw us, their eyes were red, their voice shot
Saying "I've no time to take care of you. Leave the masks and look around as you wish"
"I've not gone home in 3 days. I sleep 2 or 3 hours a day
The guy who brought me there works in construction. He knows people in the field
The head worker on the site said
"We are all from Wuhan. If we die of overwork here. I guess we are martyrs"
"If we can do something for Wuhan, then good"
Chinese people are really...
I hate the saying "Do the labor, don't complain"
Why the fuck should they do the labor and not complain?
I'm going to answer a stupid question
"Why couldn't we convert hotels into hospitals?"
Because, hospitals for infectious diseases
Need to be sectioned into "Red zone", "yellow zone" and "green zone"
Places that hold infected patients, cannot let any air out
So ordinary hotels cannot hold people who are infected
They can be used to quarantine suspected cases, sure
The 200 something Japanese people who returned to Japan are now quarantined at a hotel
But the hospitals being built now are under "negative pressure"
Air pressure inside is lower than air pressure outside
Air only goes in, not out
They have to have special drainage systems, ensuring
all contaminated air, water, etc, won't leak outside
This is what they are building
In just several days
They are racing with time
Now I don't know if there will be accidents on the construction site
Because all of these companies are working together to build it
The requirements are so strict
The speed is so high, it's hard not to
Now let's talk about
Yesterday, on the 29th
I went to Wuhan's NO.5 People's Hospital
In No.5 Hospital, there were not many people
But I talked to some patients, this time more in depth
Before this, I went to
Wuhan Central Hospital, there were fewer people due to New Year's Eve
Then I went to other hospitals, fewer people as well
This is due to a few reasons
most people were "sealed away"at home
Some people were not allowed to leave their apartment
how can you go to the hospital if you don't have transportation?
This is the first reason
The second reason, if you are in the hospital, you know even if you get there
You can't get a bed or a diagnostic test, why go at all?
I made a video before, complaining that
In local chat groups, stupid people were
saying whatever they want
Then my friend says "Qiushi, you joined a group full of crazies"
So he added me to a chat group made of local taxi driver
Taxi drivers have the most up-to-date news in the city. Right? Though sometimes they spread rumors
These drivers told me
Many of them, as early as mid-December, heard from friends and family about the virus
Because their friends and families were locals, they knew about the infectious disease
They suspected it was SARS
Why couldn't we call it SARS?
It is SIMILAR to SARS, alright?
Why should an ordinary citizen distinguish between SARS and the coronavirus?
Now, the Wuhan police
doesn't even apologize one bit
They only said "your rumormongering is not a serious offense"
"Because you mistook the virus for SARS"
somebody says "there's a Northeastern Tiger in the mountain, don't go there!"
A gov official says "there's no tiger!" And then the tiger kills a bunch of people
After the gov wakes up to it, they say:
"It's not Northeastern Tiger, it's a Huanan Tiger"
"You made a mistake. So your rumormongering is only a light offense"
You mistook the type of the tiger
Let's go back
Some taxi drivers knew about it in mid- to late- December
Among the taxi drivers, they start to
telling each other not to go to Huanan Market
Some who used to shop there no longer went there
I don't know if Hunan Market is the real source of the virus
But it is really a source of the outbreak
Understood? I don't know where the virus comes from
But Huanan Market is where many people got sick
This is why when I went there, the locals were terrified
Tha taxi drivers
There are about 20,000 taxis in the city.
Tens of thousands of Ubers (Didis and the like)
The latter were private vehicles
Taxis were a public service, belonging to Taxi companies
They requisitioned 6000 taxis to "ensure supply"
"Ensure transportation needs"
But how they went about doing it?
Every neighborhood has 4 taxis
One neighborhood jurisdiction has at least several apartment complexes
For example, Tiantongyuan of Beijing
With it's zone 1, zone 2....in total it has 600,000 to 1 million people
Wuhan has 11-14 million people
Let's say 5 million have left the city, 9 million remain
A neighborhood has a population in the 10,000s or 100,000s
ONLY 4 TAXIS?
They say the taxis were for "emergency goods transportation"
Or "critically ill patients".
The taxis are mostly "for goods", not "for people"
JUST 4 TAXIS. If you need it, you have to call the neighborhood office
The neighborhood volunteer has to help you arrange it
Basically, you won't get to use it!
So yesterday, a local lent me a scooter
When I rode it and went to the street, many people were riding scooters or shared bikes to go to the hospital
Wuhan is huge! I feel like its area is bigger than Beijing!
It's separated by the river, into
Hankou, Wuchang... several boroughs, it's huge
That's why people are not at the hospital
Why hospitals were not crowded.
Many people have no way of going there
It's like 'Brother Mask' said
Patients rely on 120 emergency ambulance for transport
Are there enough ambulences or taxis? No
Taxi drivers also complained that they were asked to "ensure supply"
They have to buy their own masks and hazmat suits
There's not enough logistical power
A huge amount of people are "locked down"
Some people even suspected
If I didn't see it for myself...
heard with my own ears...
I will say "some people suspect"
I can't be like people on the internet
I have my own face at stake
I will only tell you what I saw and heard in real life
I won't just spread a screenshot or a video from the internet
Some people suspect the hospitals drove the patients away
Because Premier Li Keqiang was visiting
That's why you see a dwindling number of patients in the hospital
Yesterday, I went to No.5 Hospital
It was fairly orderly
Many people are here for the test kits
So that they can be sure whether they are confirmed
I blended in with the crowd, stood in line
I pretended to be a patient and stood in line with others
I asked "how many days have you been coughing or having a fever?"
"Are you here for a diagnosis or checkup?"
"You are holding a CT scan, why are you here?"
"Is it just you who got infected, or is your family infected too?"
Some patients had coughed for days
and had a fever for days
the meds are not driving away the fever
They are "suspected"
But being a "suspected" case is psychological torture!
I coughed for 6 days. How are my symptoms not serious?
Don't you try and tell me that again!
Don't you try and tell me again!
Then, in hospital reception
Sorry, my thoughts are disorganized
The nurse at the reception
was registering patients and handing out numbers
like "you are no. 126, there are test kits today."
"Go stand in line on the 2nd floor, Department of Testing"
"Those of you who can confirm their infections, they can stop worrying whether they got it."
Some local friends hooked me up with an "suspected" patient
And I followed him to see the process of seeking medical treatment
I saw a patient
Yesterday afternoon, I went to Hospital No.5
Then I followed the patient to Tongji Hospital
I talked to him, and other patients at Tongji Hospital
Many people have gone to 3 to 5 hospitals
and were deemed "suspected infections"
He said originally, he had a shadow on his left lung
Then he got it in both of his lungs
Along with other symptoms
He had trouble breathing, he felt sick
When he arrived at Tongji
With his scan
It's the first time I ever felt frightened
More than a dozen oxygen tanks at the entrance
With "full of oxygen, be careful" on them
People are lying on benches
There are added beds in the hallway
There are added beds near the bathroom!
60-70% of the patients are inhaling oxygen
Some people are inhaling pressurized oxygen with a mask
If it's not pneumonia, why the need for pressurized oxygen?
When I went with a local patient to seek medical treatment
His brother went with him
He said "if it weren't for my brother, I wouldn't dare come here. Why are you here?"
We have to disinfect ourselves thoroughly going in and out.
When we saw doctors...and medical workers
The patient I went with was not well-organized
He forgot his newest scan for the doctor
The doctor said: "where's your scan? not the one from 5 days ago. the new one"
He said "I only have a picture of it in my phone"
The doctor said "I need the scan. This is too small"
The patient said "Can I get diagnsoed first?"
The doc said "it's not your call. We have to evaluate you first"
After that, we have to prioritize critically ill patients. Because we don't have enough test kits
NOT ENOUGH TEST KITS!
I saw online that Tianjin gave Wuhan 10,000 test kits
But just Wuhan alone has 10 million people!
Distributed to all the hospitals
Only a few hundred test kits per hospital
There's not enough!
Some locals said the hospitals will keep some test kits for the doctors
I think that's fine. Who will save you if the doctors get sick?
China has a saying: "let's not worry about how to share the pie. Let's make the pie big first!"
But now the pie isn't big enough!
If you are a doctor, and tens of thousands of patients ask you for test kits
And you only have a few hundreds
How do you distribute them?
That's why some patients, after going to 5 or 6 hospitals, gave up
Because they have to stand in line for a long time to get diagnosed. Only when they are diagnosed
can they be allowed inside the hospital
All of the hospitals I went to told me there weren't enough beds. No beds
That's why they are building the hospital!
Yesterday, that patient
didn't end up getting tested
Docs, nurses, their attitudes were great. In their suits, sweating like that
They were so tired, but they were still working and guiding you
Doctors were seeing patients, and guards were maintaining order
It was already better managed than before, but
patients in the hospital yards, they were still helpless
Some were receiving IV on the bench
Those more well-off had their IV in their car
They hang the IV bottle on a tree
Those without cars just did so outside, in the cold
They sat on the stoops, hanging their bottle on a stick
I'm only telling you what I saw and heard personally from the patients
There are so many of them
If you want rumours, go online. I only say what I saw
This is the case with this patient, in his 40s, a guy
He was steps away from crying in front of me
"I had coughed and had a fever for a week"
"Now my brother has a fever"
"My mother-in-law has a fever"
"A day before the lockdown"
"I had supper with my relatives."
"I went to my mother-in-law's and had dinner with them."
"I played Mahjong with my old classmates"
"I was in contact with a dozen people!"
"If I'm confirmed, what's going to happen to them?"
"It is over for my whole family"
This is what he told me in person
Other news, for example
I've been in contact with Japan's Foreign Ministry
In the past, I'd gone to Japan through them. I had a relationship with officials there
Now, they don't really respond to my Wechat anymore
I asked to shoot their repatriation procedure
I want to interact with the embassy, I want to know how serious this outbreak is
Because your repatriation might cause panic among Chinese people. This is important
But he said...we can't arrange that for you
Now, they say about 200 Japanese people are repatriated
How many were confirmed?
You should pay attention to this:
How many were confirmed cases among the 200 Japanese citizens?
This ratio is important! It is important! Do you understand?
Sorry, my thoughts are disorganized. Because I've started to be frightened
I am frightened
Because Wuhan locals won't go to the hospital unless they are truly worried about themselves
There is no one on the street. The locals are really terrified
I'm jealous of those CCTV guys!
They could go inside Jinyintan Hospital's infected zone
But they are safer than me
They are fully protected, with hazmat suits, the whole thing
Jinyintan Hospital has red zone, yellow zone, and green zone
Red is infected zone, yellow is danger zone, green is safety zone
CCTV people were in the green zone, interviewing the patients with videochat
That's safe! I was in the clinic!
I couldn't go to the in-patient area. It was not allowed.
No way I am allowed to interview local experts or officials
But who knows how many people were infected with the virus?
All doctors there were in full hazmat suits
I only have goggles and two masks
I had a coat, which I disinfect everyday. I hang it outside, for fear of infections
I reek of disinfectant!
Nobody dares to go to the hospital
Before I came, I wanted to contact Caixin
Because before the lockdown, Caixin was the only outlet that was in Wuhan
no other outlets!
Interviewing for news is a professional skill
Not just waving a phone to take videos, that's not news
I try hard not to tell you rumors I heard. I am only telling you what I experienced.
I tried contacting Caixin through friends, I couldn't.
I found someone who worked there. He didn't want to talk to me. Nobody dared talk to me
Even less likely that CCTV will talk to me
Yesterday, I met an anchor from a TV station in Guangdong. That was nice.
I wanted to learn about how to do a professional interview
I shouted out to Wang Zhian on twitter
He is an investigative reporter, who reported on Zhou Libo, or whoever it is, about the boxing school
I had Laoliang's Wechat
While Liang was still in China, I asked him if I could join Wang Zhi'an's team
Wang is one of the few investigative reporters left
Now, according to stats, there are less than 200 investigative reporters in China
This time, there is no reporter around
I tried reaching out to him on twitter, I hope he teaches me how to
interview effectively, how to cut to the chase
I reached him eventualy. He taught be a little.
Then, finally, I heard there was one reporter from a Hongkong TV station
she hasn't returned home
I finally got her on Wechat, and she speaks Chinese
I thought I met a comrade. I said "Can we exchange information? Can we interview together?"
She said: "Lawyer Chen, I haven't left for 6, 7 days. I have been in the hotel."
The TV station ordered us not to leave. We had to protect the safety of our staff
"So Lawyer Chen, you have done more than all of us"
"If you have news, please share with us."
Now I know what it feels to be alone!
I contacted the reporter from New York Times, in Wuhan
I contacted him on Twitter, I don't know where he is yet
His name is Bai-something. I read through his tweets
I don't know if he's Chinese. But he can write Chinese.
I saw his twitter. I also don't see any pictures from the clinic, the infected zone
Nobody is on location!
That's why I'm starting to get scared.
Especially...I heard news from a Japanese outlet
A driver who received tour groups from Wuhan
who only helped guests handle luggage, he is infected!
I have been on the frontline for 3 or 4 days, in the clinic
can really break you down
For example, many patients seeking help
Some told me "it might just be a cold, but I have to be sure"
"If you don't diagnose me, how would I know?"
That's why he's here. But there are only hundreds of test kits.
Why would they use it on you, somebody who's only coughing?
But these patients are really unhappy, saying...
"You only serve the critically ill. My symptoms are light now, but you have to wait until they become critical-level?"
"When I become gravely ill, can you still save my life?"
But we only have a few hundred test kits!
I saw another dead body in Tongji Hospital
His face was not covered. This time he was sitting.
Is he okay?
He passed away
"Have they not found a vehicle to transport him?"
They are going to put him in the morgue
He was so gravely ill. But the car arrived too late.
"He's passed..." [Unclear]
I don't know by "car", if she meant the ambulance
You hear ambulances, intended for critically ill patients, all the time on the street
Especially at night, there was nothing but ambulance. Do you know how scary it is?
The old man...after a while, we left and came back
We saw them wrap him up in a yellow body bag and send him away
This is what I saw yesterday in Tongji Hospital
I'm under a lot of stress. These days, my breathing has been labored
My chest hurts a bit
I don't know. I hope it's just stress.
I have diarrhea, because I've always had that problem
I have a weak digestive system, and I've drunk a lot of milk
One of the symptoms is diarrhea
And lung problems
Maybe it's because 5 or 6 hours of wearing masks, not enough air....that I have chest pain
I sent my location to a few friends in Wuhan yesterday
Because, only Brother Mask knew where I lived
I don't even know Brother Mask's name. I'm not good with names or faces
Okay, this is Jan 29th.
What I saw
Again, I'm only telling you what I saw
What patients' family told me in person
Lack of masks, lack of hazmat suits and protections
Lack of supplies in general
Most importantly, lack of test kits
No test kits, no diagnoses
You can only quarantine yourself at home
If there are test kits
you still need a bed
If you have bed, you still need a doctor
You can't just have a line of patients lying there without a doctor
we need doctors
The outbreak is still serious. Many problems are not solved.
that's about it
I should go out for interviews today
I talked to the NYT reporter
I asked him if I could interview him. He said he could not be photographed
He wanted to interview me instead
That's it. Today I am talkative. I talked for more than 20 minutes
I will do my best to perk up.
The department of justice called me again.
Qingdao Police Station called me as well
They asked me where I was. They asked me to cooperate with their investigation.
I said "I was in Wuhan". They asked "why?"
I said "if you don't know I'm in Wuhan, why are you looking for me?"
to cooperate with what?
They asked "where do you live in Wuhan?"
I said "at a friend's"
They are talking to my parents
yesterday, or the day before
My mom said "don't I worry about him more than you?"
"Don't I wish him to return more than you?"
I am scared.
I have the virus in front of me.
Behind me is China's law enforcement
But I will perk up
If I am still alive in this city
I will continue my report
I will only tell you what I saw, what I heard
I love to say emotional things
I'm saying this harsh thing right here
Fuck you, I'm not even scared of death
You think I'm scared of you Chinese Communist Party?