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- Transcript of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3R41dGnU
- original, untranslated video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXozpbomAns
- Hi everyone, I am Chen Qiushi
- It's now Jan 30th, 11AM something
- The video today might be a bit long. I'll be more talkative
- Sorry about that
- My videos before were usually vertical and below 5 mins
- Because my main audience is mainland Chinese
- I am not too focused on how audience abroad will view the video
- vertical video is more the Mainland Chinese way of viewing videos
- 5 mins is the longest Wechat can load
- So I had wished people would download them and spread them on Wechat
- When I was talking about rule of law, equality, checks and balances...
- This time in Wuhan
- I've seen a lot. It's my 6th day in Wuhan.
- My name has been flagged in China
- If the content contains "Chenqiushi" or "CQS"
- or my face
- It will not be sent on Wechat
- Many people told me
- Anybody who spread my video, will have their account deleted
- Because there have been a lot of rumors on Wechat
- You can watch this video
- I don't recommend forwarding it on Wechat
- Because if you do, your wechat account will be deleted, like mine
- I have lost contact with many people
- Today it's the 30th. Let me talk about my experience in the pat couple of days
- My first two days in Wuhan, I went to
- Wuhan Central Hospital (on New Year's Eve)
- I went to No.11 hospital twice
- I went to supermarkets in Wuhan
- I went with volunteers to donate supplies, to Xiehe Hospital
- I went to the construction site of Huoshenshan Hospital
- This is a while back
- Yesterday
- Jan 29th
- I went to Wuhan's No.5 People's Hospital
- The place where many doctors are rumored to have been infected
- but
- I can't...it's impossible to ask the doctors
- "Did your colleagues get infected?"
- Doctors are busy. And it's impossible for me to interview leaders of the hospital
- None of them will take interviews
- Becuase...I heard..that all medical workers received orders not to take interviews
- In some hospitals, they confiscate doctors' phones
- keeping them from spreading news
- Now we already know, the 8 "rumormongers" arrested at the beginning.
- Seems like they are all doctors
- They talked about the virus in their wechat groups
- I made a video a few days back, saying
- civilian groups in Wuhan are disorganized
- Soon I was proven wrong, some volunteer groups reached out
- Some drove medical workers to work
- Some are in charge of transporting and unloading goods
- Because there are supplies coming in from Wuhan
- They are in charge of unloading them and sending them to the hospitals
- That's what the volunteers are doing
- I added them on Wechat, I will participate in their activity
- But I could see...they are under tremendous workload
- The volunteers have a lot to complain, they don't have it easy
- The Chinese public don't trust the Red Cross
- So they sent small packages to the hospitals
- We saw, in the hospitals' receiving room
- There were many small packages. But in fact they are very inefficient
- Think about it, hospitals have to get workers to open them one by one
- Masks, hazmat suits, of different models, different types
- Different qualities...they have it all
- They had to categorize them, inspect them, figure out how to use them
- The best way is of course from org to org
- A truckload directly to the hospital. This is the best scenario
- Volunteers had to help with these things. Small packages from all over the nation
- It's already a lot to do
- I saw a volunteer's wechat moment
- saying that the police is asking them for supplies
- He was saying "where are all the donations received by the government?"
- Why is the government asking us civilian groups for supplies?
- The situation is still...a mess
- Like I said, I visited people on the Huoshenshan Hospital construction site
- Workers on the site are working so hard
- Workers are on 2 or 3 shifts, working 24 hours
- Mid- to low-level managers, unlike workers,
- They have no time to rest
- When they saw us, their eyes were red, their voice shot
- Saying "I've no time to take care of you. Leave the masks and look around as you wish"
- "I've not gone home in 3 days. I sleep 2 or 3 hours a day
- The guy who brought me there works in construction. He knows people in the field
- The head worker on the site said
- "We are all from Wuhan. If we die of overwork here. I guess we are martyrs"
- "If we can do something for Wuhan, then good"
- Chinese people are really...
- I hate the saying "Do the labor, don't complain"
- Why the fuck should they do the labor and not complain?
- Then
- I'm going to answer a stupid question
- "Why couldn't we convert hotels into hospitals?"
- Because, hospitals for infectious diseases
- Need to be sectioned into "Red zone", "yellow zone" and "green zone"
- Places that hold infected patients, cannot let any air out
- So ordinary hotels cannot hold people who are infected
- They can be used to quarantine suspected cases, sure
- The 200 something Japanese people who returned to Japan are now quarantined at a hotel
- But the hospitals being built now are under "negative pressure"
- Air pressure inside is lower than air pressure outside
- Air only goes in, not out
- They have to have special drainage systems, ensuring
- all contaminated air, water, etc, won't leak outside
- This is what they are building
- In just several days
- They are racing with time
- Now I don't know if there will be accidents on the construction site
- Because all of these companies are working together to build it
- The requirements are so strict
- The speed is so high, it's hard not to
- have hiccups
- Now let's talk about
- Yesterday
- Yesterday, on the 29th
- I went to Wuhan's NO.5 People's Hospital
- In No.5 Hospital, there were not many people
- But I talked to some patients, this time more in depth
- Before this, I went to
- Wuhan Central Hospital, there were fewer people due to New Year's Eve
- Then I went to other hospitals, fewer people as well
- This is due to a few reasons
- First
- most people were "sealed away"at home
- Some people were not allowed to leave their apartment
- So
- how can you go to the hospital if you don't have transportation?
- This is the first reason
- The second reason, if you are in the hospital, you know even if you get there
- You can't get a bed or a diagnostic test, why go at all?
- I made a video before, complaining that
- In local chat groups, stupid people were
- saying whatever they want
- Then my friend says "Qiushi, you joined a group full of crazies"
- So he added me to a chat group made of local taxi driver
- Taxi drivers have the most up-to-date news in the city. Right? Though sometimes they spread rumors
- These drivers told me
- Many of them, as early as mid-December, heard from friends and family about the virus
- Because their friends and families were locals, they knew about the infectious disease
- They suspected it was SARS
- Why couldn't we call it SARS?
- It is SIMILAR to SARS, alright?
- Why should an ordinary citizen distinguish between SARS and the coronavirus?
- Now, the Wuhan police
- doesn't even apologize one bit
- They only said "your rumormongering is not a serious offense"
- "Because you mistook the virus for SARS"
- For example,
- somebody says "there's a Northeastern Tiger in the mountain, don't go there!"
- Then
- A gov official says "there's no tiger!" And then the tiger kills a bunch of people
- After the gov wakes up to it, they say:
- "It's not Northeastern Tiger, it's a Huanan Tiger"
- "You made a mistake. So your rumormongering is only a light offense"
- You mistook the type of the tiger
- Let's go back
- Some taxi drivers knew about it in mid- to late- December
- Among the taxi drivers, they start to
- telling each other not to go to Huanan Market
- Some who used to shop there no longer went there
- I don't know if Hunan Market is the real source of the virus
- But it is really a source of the outbreak
- Understood? I don't know where the virus comes from
- But Huanan Market is where many people got sick
- This is why when I went there, the locals were terrified
- Tha taxi drivers
- There are about 20,000 taxis in the city.
- Tens of thousands of Ubers (Didis and the like)
- The latter were private vehicles
- Taxis were a public service, belonging to Taxi companies
- They requisitioned 6000 taxis to "ensure supply"
- "Ensure transportation needs"
- But how they went about doing it?
- Every neighborhood has 4 taxis
- One neighborhood jurisdiction has at least several apartment complexes
- For example, Tiantongyuan of Beijing
- With it's zone 1, zone 2....in total it has 600,000 to 1 million people
- Wuhan has 11-14 million people
- Let's say 5 million have left the city, 9 million remain
- A neighborhood has a population in the 10,000s or 100,000s
- ONLY 4 TAXIS?
- They say the taxis were for "emergency goods transportation"
- Or "critically ill patients".
- The taxis are mostly "for goods", not "for people"
- JUST 4 TAXIS. If you need it, you have to call the neighborhood office
- The neighborhood volunteer has to help you arrange it
- Basically, you won't get to use it!
- So yesterday, a local lent me a scooter
- When I rode it and went to the street, many people were riding scooters or shared bikes to go to the hospital
- Wuhan is huge! I feel like its area is bigger than Beijing!
- It's separated by the river, into
- Hankou, Wuchang... several boroughs, it's huge
- That's why people are not at the hospital
- Why hospitals were not crowded.
- Many people have no way of going there
- It's like 'Brother Mask' said
- Patients rely on 120 emergency ambulance for transport
- Are there enough ambulences or taxis? No
- Taxi drivers also complained that they were asked to "ensure supply"
- They have to buy their own masks and hazmat suits
- Let's continue
- There's not enough logistical power
- A huge amount of people are "locked down"
- Some people even suspected
- If I didn't see it for myself...
- heard with my own ears...
- I will say "some people suspect"
- I can't be like people on the internet
- I have my own face at stake
- I will only tell you what I saw and heard in real life
- I won't just spread a screenshot or a video from the internet
- Some people suspect the hospitals drove the patients away
- Because Premier Li Keqiang was visiting
- That's why you see a dwindling number of patients in the hospital
- Yesterday, I went to No.5 Hospital
- It was fairly orderly
- Many people are here for the test kits
- So that they can be sure whether they are confirmed
- I blended in with the crowd, stood in line
- I pretended to be a patient and stood in line with others
- I asked "how many days have you been coughing or having a fever?"
- "Are you here for a diagnosis or checkup?"
- "You are holding a CT scan, why are you here?"
- "Is it just you who got infected, or is your family infected too?"
- Some patients had coughed for days
- and had a fever for days
- the meds are not driving away the fever
- They are "suspected"
- But being a "suspected" case is psychological torture!
- I coughed for 6 days. How are my symptoms not serious?
- Don't you try and tell me that again!
- Don't you try and tell me again!
- Then, in hospital reception
- Sorry, my thoughts are disorganized
- The nurse at the reception
- was registering patients and handing out numbers
- like "you are no. 126, there are test kits today."
- "Go stand in line on the 2nd floor, Department of Testing"
- "Those of you who can confirm their infections, they can stop worrying whether they got it."
- Some local friends hooked me up with an "suspected" patient
- And I followed him to see the process of seeking medical treatment
- I saw a patient
- Yesterday afternoon, I went to Hospital No.5
- Then I followed the patient to Tongji Hospital
- I talked to him, and other patients at Tongji Hospital
- Many people have gone to 3 to 5 hospitals
- and were deemed "suspected infections"
- He said originally, he had a shadow on his left lung
- glass-like shadow
- Then he got it in both of his lungs
- Along with other symptoms
- He had trouble breathing, he felt sick
- but
- When he arrived at Tongji
- With his scan
- It's the first time I ever felt frightened
- It's...
- More than a dozen oxygen tanks at the entrance
- With "full of oxygen, be careful" on them
- Inside...
- People are lying on benches
- There are added beds in the hallway
- There are added beds near the bathroom!
- 60-70% of the patients are inhaling oxygen
- Some people are inhaling pressurized oxygen with a mask
- If it's not pneumonia, why the need for pressurized oxygen?
- When I went with a local patient to seek medical treatment
- His brother went with him
- He said "if it weren't for my brother, I wouldn't dare come here. Why are you here?"
- We have to disinfect ourselves thoroughly going in and out.
- When we saw doctors...and medical workers
- The patient I went with was not well-organized
- He forgot his newest scan for the doctor
- The doctor said: "where's your scan? not the one from 5 days ago. the new one"
- He said "I only have a picture of it in my phone"
- The doctor said "I need the scan. This is too small"
- The patient said "Can I get diagnsoed first?"
- The doc said "it's not your call. We have to evaluate you first"
- After that, we have to prioritize critically ill patients. Because we don't have enough test kits
- NOT ENOUGH TEST KITS!
- I saw online that Tianjin gave Wuhan 10,000 test kits
- But just Wuhan alone has 10 million people!
- Distributed to all the hospitals
- Only a few hundred test kits per hospital
- There's not enough!
- Some locals said the hospitals will keep some test kits for the doctors
- I think that's fine. Who will save you if the doctors get sick?
- China has a saying: "let's not worry about how to share the pie. Let's make the pie big first!"
- But now the pie isn't big enough!
- If you are a doctor, and tens of thousands of patients ask you for test kits
- And you only have a few hundreds
- How do you distribute them?
- That's why some patients, after going to 5 or 6 hospitals, gave up
- Because they have to stand in line for a long time to get diagnosed. Only when they are diagnosed
- can they be allowed inside the hospital
- All of the hospitals I went to told me there weren't enough beds. No beds
- That's why they are building the hospital!
- Yesterday, that patient
- didn't end up getting tested
- Docs, nurses, their attitudes were great. In their suits, sweating like that
- They were so tired, but they were still working and guiding you
- Doctors were seeing patients, and guards were maintaining order
- It was already better managed than before, but
- patients in the hospital yards, they were still helpless
- Some were receiving IV on the bench
- Those more well-off had their IV in their car
- They hang the IV bottle on a tree
- Those without cars just did so outside, in the cold
- They sat on the stoops, hanging their bottle on a stick
- I'm only telling you what I saw and heard personally from the patients
- Rumours online
- There are so many of them
- If you want rumours, go online. I only say what I saw
- This is the case with this patient, in his 40s, a guy
- He was steps away from crying in front of me
- "I had coughed and had a fever for a week"
- "Now my brother has a fever"
- "My mother-in-law has a fever"
- "A day before the lockdown"
- "I had supper with my relatives."
- "I went to my mother-in-law's and had dinner with them."
- "I played Mahjong with my old classmates"
- "I was in contact with a dozen people!"
- "If I'm confirmed, what's going to happen to them?"
- "It is over for my whole family"
- This is what he told me in person
- then
- Other news, for example
- I've been in contact with Japan's Foreign Ministry
- In the past, I'd gone to Japan through them. I had a relationship with officials there
- Now, they don't really respond to my Wechat anymore
- I asked to shoot their repatriation procedure
- I want to interact with the embassy, I want to know how serious this outbreak is
- Because your repatriation might cause panic among Chinese people. This is important
- But he said...we can't arrange that for you
- Now, they say about 200 Japanese people are repatriated
- How many were confirmed?
- You should pay attention to this:
- How many were confirmed cases among the 200 Japanese citizens?
- This ratio is important! It is important! Do you understand?
- Let' continue
- Sorry, my thoughts are disorganized. Because I've started to be frightened
- I am frightened
- Because Wuhan locals won't go to the hospital unless they are truly worried about themselves
- There is no one on the street. The locals are really terrified
- I'm jealous of those CCTV guys!
- They could go inside Jinyintan Hospital's infected zone
- But they are safer than me
- They are fully protected, with hazmat suits, the whole thing
- Jinyintan Hospital has red zone, yellow zone, and green zone
- Red is infected zone, yellow is danger zone, green is safety zone
- CCTV people were in the green zone, interviewing the patients with videochat
- That's safe! I was in the clinic!
- I couldn't go to the in-patient area. It was not allowed.
- No way I am allowed to interview local experts or officials
- But who knows how many people were infected with the virus?
- All doctors there were in full hazmat suits
- I only have goggles and two masks
- I had a coat, which I disinfect everyday. I hang it outside, for fear of infections
- I reek of disinfectant!
- Nobody dares to go to the hospital
- Before I came, I wanted to contact Caixin
- Because before the lockdown, Caixin was the only outlet that was in Wuhan
- no other outlets!
- Interviewing for news is a professional skill
- Not just waving a phone to take videos, that's not news
- I try hard not to tell you rumors I heard. I am only telling you what I experienced.
- I tried contacting Caixin through friends, I couldn't.
- I found someone who worked there. He didn't want to talk to me. Nobody dared talk to me
- Even less likely that CCTV will talk to me
- Yesterday, I met an anchor from a TV station in Guangdong. That was nice.
- I wanted to learn about how to do a professional interview
- I shouted out to Wang Zhian on twitter
- He is an investigative reporter, who reported on Zhou Libo, or whoever it is, about the boxing school
- I had Laoliang's Wechat
- While Liang was still in China, I asked him if I could join Wang Zhi'an's team
- Wang is one of the few investigative reporters left
- Now, according to stats, there are less than 200 investigative reporters in China
- This time, there is no reporter around
- I tried reaching out to him on twitter, I hope he teaches me how to
- interview effectively, how to cut to the chase
- I reached him eventualy. He taught be a little.
- Then, finally, I heard there was one reporter from a Hongkong TV station
- she hasn't returned home
- I finally got her on Wechat, and she speaks Chinese
- I thought I met a comrade. I said "Can we exchange information? Can we interview together?"
- She said: "Lawyer Chen, I haven't left for 6, 7 days. I have been in the hotel."
- The TV station ordered us not to leave. We had to protect the safety of our staff
- "So Lawyer Chen, you have done more than all of us"
- "If you have news, please share with us."
- Now I know what it feels to be alone!
- I contacted the reporter from New York Times, in Wuhan
- I contacted him on Twitter, I don't know where he is yet
- His name is Bai-something. I read through his tweets
- I don't know if he's Chinese. But he can write Chinese.
- I saw his twitter. I also don't see any pictures from the clinic, the infected zone
- Nobody is on location!
- That's why I'm starting to get scared.
- Especially...I heard news from a Japanese outlet
- A driver who received tour groups from Wuhan
- who only helped guests handle luggage, he is infected!
- I have been on the frontline for 3 or 4 days, in the clinic
- Psychological stress
- can really break you down
- For example, many patients seeking help
- Some told me "it might just be a cold, but I have to be sure"
- "If you don't diagnose me, how would I know?"
- That's why he's here. But there are only hundreds of test kits.
- Why would they use it on you, somebody who's only coughing?
- But these patients are really unhappy, saying...
- "You only serve the critically ill. My symptoms are light now, but you have to wait until they become critical-level?"
- "When I become gravely ill, can you still save my life?"
- But we only have a few hundred test kits!
- Yesterday, I...
- I saw another dead body in Tongji Hospital
- His face was not covered. This time he was sitting.
- Is he okay?
- He passed away
- He died?
- Yes. [Unclear]
- "Have they not found a vehicle to transport him?"
- They are going to put him in the morgue
- He was so gravely ill. But the car arrived too late.
- "He's passed..." [Unclear]
- I don't know by "car", if she meant the ambulance
- but think
- You hear ambulances, intended for critically ill patients, all the time on the street
- Especially at night, there was nothing but ambulance. Do you know how scary it is?
- The old man...after a while, we left and came back
- We saw them wrap him up in a yellow body bag and send him away
- This is what I saw yesterday in Tongji Hospital
- I'm under a lot of stress. These days, my breathing has been labored
- My chest hurts a bit
- I don't know. I hope it's just stress.
- I have diarrhea, because I've always had that problem
- I have a weak digestive system, and I've drunk a lot of milk
- One of the symptoms is diarrhea
- And lung problems
- Maybe it's because 5 or 6 hours of wearing masks, not enough air....that I have chest pain
- I sent my location to a few friends in Wuhan yesterday
- Because, only Brother Mask knew where I lived
- I don't even know Brother Mask's name. I'm not good with names or faces
- Okay, this is Jan 29th.
- What I saw
- Again, I'm only telling you what I saw
- What patients' family told me in person
- Lack of masks, lack of hazmat suits and protections
- Lack of supplies in general
- Most importantly, lack of test kits
- No test kits, no diagnoses
- You can only quarantine yourself at home
- If there are test kits
- you still need a bed
- If you have bed, you still need a doctor
- You can't just have a line of patients lying there without a doctor
- we need doctors
- The outbreak is still serious. Many problems are not solved.
- today
- that's about it
- I should go out for interviews today
- I talked to the NYT reporter
- I asked him if I could interview him. He said he could not be photographed
- He wanted to interview me instead
- That's it. Today I am talkative. I talked for more than 20 minutes
- That's it.
- I will do my best to perk up.
- I will.
- The department of justice called me again.
- Qingdao Police Station called me as well
- They asked me where I was. They asked me to cooperate with their investigation.
- I said "I was in Wuhan". They asked "why?"
- I said "if you don't know I'm in Wuhan, why are you looking for me?"
- to cooperate with what?
- They asked "where do you live in Wuhan?"
- I said "at a friend's"
- They are talking to my parents
- yesterday, or the day before
- My mom said "don't I worry about him more than you?"
- "Don't I wish him to return more than you?"
- I am scared.
- I have the virus in front of me.
- Behind me is China's law enforcement
- But I will perk up
- If I am still alive in this city
- I will continue my report
- I will only tell you what I saw, what I heard
- I love to say emotional things
- I'm saying this harsh thing right here
- Fuck you, I'm not even scared of death
- You think I'm scared of you Chinese Communist Party?
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