April 6th Logs

12:32 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/trollolly, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/61k2jy/ft_custom_omega_ruby_legends_lf_events/dfwahuj )
12:32 AM <@iama> adding mod to my ping list didnt last long
12:38 AM <@norman250> "The mods will come"
12:38 AM <@norman250> .magic
12:38 AM <@iama> hah
12:39 AM <@norman250> Is that not the command?
12:39 AM <@norman250> magic!
12:39 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ・。*。✧・゜゜・。✧。*・゜゜・✧。・­­­­­゜゜・。*。・゜*✧
12:39 AM <@norman250> Ah.
12:41 AM <@iama> wish I'd known that command when we had Will
12:44 AM <@norman250> ?
12:45 AM <@iama> he hates that face haha
12:46 AM <@iama> I could have trolled so much
12:47 AM <@iama> http://i.imgur.com/QnamaQy.png
12:47 AM <@iama> :D
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12:51 AM <+Porygon-Bot> mastergrumpus: \o/ (from iama, 2017-04-02 23:33:59 UTC-0400)
12:51 AM <@iama> oh hi
12:51 AM <@mastergrumpus> sup
12:53 AM <@iama> so mod picnic in hawaii confirmed?
12:54 AM <&Raia> I'm down
12:54 AM <&Raia> take me to the land of the poke
12:54 AM <@Rod> Only if TSAR brings the Eiffel Tower along
12:54 AM <@mastergrumpus> that would be awesome
1:00 AM <@norman250> Let's pick Oahu
1:00 AM <@norman250> Y'all can stay in my mom's basement instead of a hotel. Admittedly you'd have to share a bed but still
1:02 AM <@Statue> only if rod comes
1:08 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "No trading of hacked, cloned, or illegal Pokémon." (on comment by /u/RoyaleBear, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63js9m/daily_discussion_question_thread_for_05_april_2017/dfw25ix )
1:09 AM <@iama> hmm do they mean transferring or straight up hacking
1:09 AM <@iama> kinda want to give them both answers and link the file trading guide, but thoughts?
1:10 AM <@Statue> they mean straight up hacking
1:11 AM <&Raia> how can you tell?
1:12 AM <@Statue> why would they be transferring to a 4th gen rom?
1:13 AM <@iama> I mean last night I was messing with transferring mews from one platinum save to another
1:13 AM <@iama> .shrug
1:13 AM <+Porygon-Bot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1:13 AM <@Statue> it's the exact same process if you're using pokegen
1:14 AM <@iama> I guess I could just ask them to take it elsewhere and if they say its legit reply accordingly
1:15 AM <&Raia> you can ask what they're planning to do and link the file trading guide saying it might be helpful
1:15 AM <@iama> yeah, I like that
1:19 AM <@iama> bedtime
1:19 AM <@iama> goodnight all
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3:16 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "hijacking" (on comment by /u/MambaMatthew, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63r67x/ftkoko_code_lfother_events/dfwevqd )
3:17 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/bohemia63, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63r67x/ftkoko_code_lfother_events/dfwesmj )
3:19 AM <@Kirzi> r'd
3:19 AM <@norman250> Oooh boy that last one needs an r
3:19 AM <@norman250> thanks kirzi
6:18 AM ⇐ @not_an_aardvark, @amab and @mastergrumpus quit
7:08 AM <@Kirzi> >Hi, I was just wondering do you guys allow people who got banned from the sub to continue using the sub by using an alternative account? it seems that -Ramon is an alternative account of -Garou
7:08 AM <@Kirzi> I'm off to sleepyland but I told them to modmail
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7:44 AM <@DoubleFried> IPs are similar
7:44 AM <@DoubleFried> -Garou mostly posted from IP addresses that are apparently from Rome
7:45 AM <@DoubleFried> -Ramon from Aprilia, a city very close to Rome
7:45 AM <@DoubleFried> and they both have at least one Milan IP logged
7:46 AM <@DoubleFried> id like to see some hard evidence though
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8:28 AM <@Rod> Garou's Mii name is Simone009, Ramon's Google account is Simone something
8:29 AM <@Rod> Yeah, same Google account on both
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8:46 AM <@iama> Automod is having issues
8:48 AM <@iama> .tag /u/_Yuki_-_
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/_Yuki_-_ on /r/pokemontrades:
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) ""Hi moderators! (•=•)/ Can I post on r/pokemontrades a quick cloning service?" https://www.reddit.com/message/messages/7z91jb" (2 days ago, by DoubleFried, on link reddit.com/message/messages/7z92c1 , colored pink)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "blocked sketchy redeem outsourcing, told him that /u/kizura94 can comment themselves to offer redeems/rng (kizura is ignoring incidentally)" (11 days ago, by IAMADeinonychusAMA, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/616nd8/-/dff1y3i , colored yellow)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (2) ""I have a friend with a JPN console so he can redeem your codes"" (12 days ago, by IAMADeinonychusAMA, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/616nd8/-/dfcdqlf , colored pink)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (3) "Shinies - no info" (2 months ago, by U_Need_A_Brojob, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5rt0rv/-/dd9wgxz , colored yellow)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (4) "Apparently mentioned something about using PKhex for redemptions - https://www.reddit.com/message/messages/7gv9jy" (2 months ago, by blackaurora, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5r29bj/-/dd3wwtm , colored pink)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (5) "Shinies no ID No./origin; using photos to provide OT" (2 months ago, by willster191, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5r234i/-/dd3sh3b , colored yellow)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (6) ""Shinies are uncloned, untouched and with proof"" (2 months ago, by willster191, on link reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5r234i/-/dd3sh3b , colored pink)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (7) "6 hour rule" (2 months ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/5r1yaf , colored yellow)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (8) "6 hour rule" (4 months ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/5gcme0 , colored yellow)
8:48 AM <+Porygon-Bot> (9) "5 archived notes" (5 months ago, by SnowPhoenix9999, colored yellow)
8:50 AM <@iama> .tag add --n "might be offering the same sketchy redeems again" --c pink https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63shc3/ft_custom_japan_redeems_date_ivs_nature_language/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=user&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage
8:50 AM <+Porygon-Bot> Successfully added note on /u/_Yuki_-_:
8:50 AM <+Porygon-Bot> "might be offering the same sketchy redeems again" (a few seconds ago, by iama, on link reddit.com/63shc3 , colored pink)
8:52 AM <@iama> hmm, this report in modmail is concerning
8:52 AM <@iama> .tag /u/-Ramon
8:52 AM <+Porygon-Bot> An unknown error occured.
8:53 AM <@Rod> Yeah they're the same person
8:53 AM <@Rod> Same Google account
8:54 AM <@iama> predictably
8:54 AM <@iama> is there a way to get around that Porygon-Bot error?
8:55 AM <@iama> and ip was inconclusive but that would seem to do it Rod
8:56 AM <@iama> confirmed?
9:00 AM <@iama> Rod, would you just ban or would you be concerned since he's managed to evade for 4 months now
9:03 AM <@iama> oh Rod
9:03 AM <@iama> where on the ds does it show region marking?
9:03 AM <@iama> ie jpn console, na console, etx
9:04 AM <&Raia> serial number
9:04 AM <@iama> need to give instructions to someone
9:05 AM <@iama> yes
9:05 AM <@iama> where is that
9:05 AM <@iama> my DS has a cover
9:05 AM <&Raia> on the back of the console or under the top faceplate for small n3ds
9:05 AM <&Raia> that doesn't take into account region changes though and not everyone would want to give out their serial number
9:05 AM <&Raia> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/wiki/proof#wiki_proof_of_3ds_region
9:06 AM <@iama> Thanks Raia
9:06 AM <@iama> hmm so is that a problem asking for it?
9:06 AM <@iama> This guy claims to have a new console and I want proof
9:07 AM <&Raia> I think it's fine to ask but I wouldn't necessarily expect an answer
9:07 AM <&Raia> if they don't want to give it I wouldn't hold it against them
9:08 AM <@iama> alright
9:08 AM <@iama> I said they could pm it to me
9:11 AM <@Rod> I'd probably just ban Ramon. He only evaded for so long since nobody was looking for him >_<
9:11 AM <@iama> okay
9:11 AM <@iama> it's definitely the same Google account Rod?
9:13 AM <@iama> .modmail -garou
9:13 AM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/search/modmail/-garou
9:15 AM <@iama> Looks like he did region change Raia
9:16 AM <@Rod> Yeah, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/4slxbg/ft_kor_spa_pika_codekorjpn_redeemscodesevents_and/d5ajxcc/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/Pokemonexchange/comments/5zwldq/ft_custom_rng_tapu_koko_shiny_lf_paypal/df31zdf/ are both simon.auriemma
9:17 AM <@iama> and garou's mii is simone009
9:17 AM <@iama> thanks, I'll swing it
9:17 AM <@iama> Do we need to bother with screenshots?
9:18 AM <@iama> .ban
9:18 AM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/mod/banuser
9:21 AM <@iama> Raia, does this sound like a legal region change? https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63shc3/ft_custom_japan_redeems_date_ivs_nature_language/dfwo0yk/?context=3 You know better than I do what questions to ask to confirm
9:22 AM <@SnowPhoenix> iama: Not enough info to say. Did he go into location settings in the emuNAND menu and switch his country to match one from the appropriate region?
9:23 AM <&Raia> ^
9:23 AM <@SnowPhoenix> *emuNAND's System Settings
9:23 AM <@iama> alright so I should ask that next? may just steal your wording if that's okay
9:23 AM <@iama> location settings in the emunand system settings that is?
9:24 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Make sure you mention country, but sure.
9:24 AM <&Raia> he should be disclosing the region change in the thread
9:25 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Right, that too, of course. So even if it does check out, make sure he knows that and ask him to edit it into the OP.
9:25 AM <@iama> yep
9:25 AM <@iama> of course
9:25 AM <@iama> Should we consider a temp?
9:26 AM <@iama> he's the same guy with that dumb cloning modmail
9:27 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Meh. At least he modmailed that before doing it.
9:27 AM <@iama> so as I predicted he says "yes"
9:28 AM <@iama> so what would be best to ask to make sure he did it correctly and isn't just yesing me? Maybe just ask for a complete description of the procedure he used?
9:30 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Can just ask him to catch a random thing, trade it to you, and then you can check that.
9:31 AM <@SnowPhoenix> *catch a random thing while using that emuNAND
9:32 AM <@Rod> Treat him like an idiot because we know he is >_<
9:35 AM <@SnowPhoenix> ^ Yeah, that.
9:36 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Hm, wonder if there's actually anyone that'll be around long enough.
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9:40 AM <@iama> wait, so you're proposing jumping straight to a tea?
9:41 AM <@SnowPhoenix> With a commonly caught thing, not an event. It's the easiest way to verify whether he did it right or not.
9:45 AM <&Raia> yeah I agree
9:45 AM <&Raia> just any trash mon is fine
9:46 AM <@Rod> But a starter Rowlet would be the trashiest
9:46 AM <@iama> I'll go dig up my DS then I guess
9:49 AM <@iama> does the game matter
9:49 AM <@SnowPhoenix> What do you mean? Just has to be something he caught while using the emuNAND. Aside from that, XYORASSuMo, any will work.
9:49 AM <&Raia> any game is fine
9:50 AM <@iama> cool
9:56 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Content must be related to Pokémon trading." (on submission by /u/Ruby_Radiant, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63svvl/add_me_as_a_friend_and_ill_trade_a_moon_beast/ )
10:02 AM <@iama> the region of the game wouldnt matter would it SP?
10:02 AM <@SnowPhoenix> The Pokemon games don't have a region aside from the cart lockout.
10:03 AM <@iama> well he has a JPN emuNAND and a PAL AS
10:04 AM <@SnowPhoenix> AS is AS. The game code is the same for all regions.
10:04 AM <@iama> so he'll be fine
10:04 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Yep.
10:05 AM <@SnowPhoenix> As long as the thing he trades you has Japan/* for the location, he did it right.
10:05 AM <@SnowPhoenix> If it has United Kingdom/* or whatever despite being from a JPN region "3DS", then he screwed up, simple as that.
10:05 AM <@iama> kk
10:08 AM <@SnowPhoenix> Fun fact: Since the game code is the same for all regions, making it an A region game (e.g. EK2A for Y, BNEA for Moon), they're one of the few games where you can insert the cart on an unmodified 3DS of a different region and still have them show up on the Home Menu.
10:08 AM <@SnowPhoenix> (It'll still fail to launch because of a cart lockout, but most out-of-region games won't show up at all under those circumstances.)
10:09 AM <@iama> I'm a bit confused on what you mean by cart lockout here
10:10 AM <@iama> if the code is all the same
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11:10 AM <@iama> SnowPhoenix: https://www.porybox.com/#/pokemon/cf7de97641c0e9acdb9c7e020a417f65
11:12 AM <@iama> actually now that I think of it, is it an issue that he said he transferred it off the JPN game to his OR? That could be a way of getting around it I suppose
11:17 AM — @iama pokes Raia
11:19 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/akaliiswaifu, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5s0d2e/lf_deoxys_ft_most_legendaries/ddeqd4d )
11:19 AM <@iama> the fuck
11:30 AM <@iama> .checkball swinub heavy
11:30 AM <+Porygon-Bot> Heavy Ball Swinub - Legal? YES (HA illegal)
11:37 AM <@Volcano> Wonder who's alt that is modmailing about Ramon
11:39 AM <@iama> .shrug
11:39 AM <+Porygon-Bot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
11:39 AM <@iama> btw, I added on the modmail that I set it to none since we suspect garou of hacking
11:39 AM <@iama> but if people think non self obtained should be allowed to speak up
11:39 AM <@iama> (I think everything needs to be blocked though)
11:39 AM <@Volcano> Pretty sure most of us were suspicious of him hacking
11:39 AM <@iama> yea
11:40 AM <@Volcano> Might as well be better safe than sorry
11:40 AM <@iama> ^
11:50 AM <@iama> Volc did you get the username btw?
11:51 AM <@iama> I can't quite recall
11:51 AM <@Volcano> for the modmail?
11:51 AM <@Volcano> askmethrow
11:51 AM <@iama> ah thanks
11:52 AM <@Volcano> btw even if they delete their account if you reply directly to them, it should still show up in modmail
11:53 AM <&Raia> iama: looks consistent with his story
11:53 AM <&Raia> japan origin and PAL region entry
11:54 AM <@iama> ah right Volcano, forgot about that
11:54 AM <@iama> Raia: I asked if he could show me one that isnt transferred, is that overdoing it?
11:55 AM <&Raia> mmm, not really, I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be able to show you a non-transferred one
11:56 AM <@iama> alright cool
11:56 AM <@iama> I figure it would eliminate the chance of him showing me a random thing
11:58 AM <&Raia> yeah
12:13 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "I think this guy's trolling." (on comment by /u/CalamityCancer, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63szcc/new_to_the_game_and_youd_like_to_start_the/dfwwe7i )
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12:15 PM <@Rod> ...
12:15 PM <@iama> removed
12:21 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Threatens, harrasses, or bullies" (on submission by /u/Wanonymous16, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63tymx/a_variation_of_a_trade_backyou_can_gain/ )
12:23 PM <@iama> r
12:27 PM <@iama> lol I modded someone's post offering a shiny without info exactly 51 seconds after they submitted the comment
12:27 PM <@iama> can't help but laugh looking at that timestamp
12:28 PM <@iama> also what the fuck https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63szcc/new_to_the_game_and_youd_like_to_start_the/dfwxwjm/?context=3
12:40 PM <@Volcano> your gif really fits here
12:40 PM <@Volcano> (it's also a troll account based on his history)
12:41 PM <@iama> probably
12:41 PM <@iama> I'm not really planning to reply, just removed it
12:42 PM <@iama> unless you have something good in mind
12:42 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63u3yp/boldore_assist/ by /u/alexsensei breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63tl18/need_help_finishing_my_dex_2_tradebacks/ )
12:43 PM <@Volcano> I was just gonna give him a gif
12:43 PM <@Volcano> but rather just leave it
1:25 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not be rude." (on comment by /u/akaliiswaifu, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63u2lv/mithycal_pokemons_to_complete_the_pokedex/dfx0xst )
1:25 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not be rude." (on comment by /u/akaliiswaifu, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63u2lv/mithycal_pokemons_to_complete_the_pokedex/dfwzfdu )
1:33 PM <@iama> r
1:33 PM <@iama> Raia: https://www.porybox.com/#/box/90bd786a871b6effaa8833fee267d7aa
1:34 PM <@iama> looks fine to me
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1:35 PM <&Raia> yeah looks fine
1:35 PM <@Volcano> iama
1:36 PM <@Volcano> i already posted the macro and reflaired the post
1:36 PM <@iama> oh
1:36 PM <@iama> my bad
1:36 PM <@Volcano> all good, just dont want them to think they're being like super attacked by everyone
1:36 PM <@iama> btw Volcano he offered a WT volcanion, do you want to take that
1:37 PM <@iama> (if you want to reply to akali as well, I can remove my comment)
1:37 PM <@Volcano> yeah i got it
1:37 PM <@Volcano> nah
1:37 PM <@Volcano> youre fine with that one
1:38 PM <@iama> alrighty o/
1:39 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/Pedrohlau, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63u2lv/mithycal_pokemons_to_complete_the_pokedex/dfx24fh )
1:39 PM <@Volcano> \o
1:39 PM <+Porygon-Bot> iama o/\o Volcano
1:40 PM <@Volcano> god akaliis pisses me off sometimes
1:40 PM <@Volcano> such a dick for no reason
1:41 PM <@iama> I feel ya
1:42 PM <@Volcano> "i don't like when people get scammed, that's basically stealing from other people" yes akaliis that is the general basis of scamming
1:58 PM <@Volcano> remember when HippoSheep used to do this
1:58 PM <@Volcano> https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualPokemonTrades/comments/634ks2/lf_breedables_in_nice_balls_ft_tons_of_legit/dfwzq7s/?context=3
2:06 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Breaking reddit" (on comment by /u/akaliiswaifu, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/62nsyg/lf_male_passimian/dfnzivy )
2:07 PM <@sheldrob> 5 days ago?
2:08 PM <@Volcano> thats someone who saw iama yell at him earlier
2:09 PM <@sheldrob> That's some next level stalking
2:09 PM <@Volcano> https://www.reddit.com/message/messages/77q3lq
2:10 PM <@Volcano> @Everyone: Is anyone against me sending a similar if not the same the message to TheOnlyXDude
2:11 PM <@sheldrob> .modmail TheOnlyXDude
2:11 PM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/search/modmail/TheOnlyXDude
2:11 PM <@Volcano> Statue: Did you feel I didn't answer the question appropriately or said something out of line?
2:12 PM <@Volcano> Specifically, I referenced our banlist section that allows his stuff to be retraded, which is what the user asked
2:13 PM <@Statue> Sec i have shit on the stove
2:15 PM <@iama> go for it Volcano
2:15 PM <@sheldrob> No objections volcano.
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2:15 PM <@Volcano> sent
2:16 PM <@iama> also maybe we should clarify that on the banlist itself
2:16 PM <@Volcano> I'd agree with that
2:16 PM <@Volcano> This way we don't really need to clarify on each other
2:17 PM <@Volcano> To me, makes it look like I don't really know what I'm talking about
2:17 PM <@Statue> the way he phrased his question
2:17 PM <@Statue> "So the retrading allowance is only for Pokémon received before the ban?"
2:18 PM <@Volcano> Which in HippoSheep's case, that's correct
2:18 PM <@Volcano> don't think he was asking about everyone in general
2:18 PM <@Statue> could have made him think that because pokemon obtained pre-ban in this case are allowed, that they'd be be in the future
2:26 PM <@Kirzi> iama, RE serial code, for future reference, you can just ask for the first part of the serial code and let them cover up the second half
2:27 PM <@Kirzi> That way we get the info we need, and they're not being pressured to reveal anything that could actually be used for anything other than checking region
2:35 PM <@iama> Thanks, good to know
2:36 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/jayk1406, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63shzb/lf_events_ft_shinies_custom_or_onhand_or_items/dfx5fho )
2:39 PM <@Volcano> a
2:57 PM <@Kirzi> Admins replied about GundamKyriosX
2:57 PM <@Kirzi> > Thanks for reporting this. We'll investigate and take action as necessary.
2:57 PM <@Kirzi> No account suspension though
2:57 PM <@Kirzi> So either they only warned him, or they haven't looked into it yet
2:57 PM <@Kirzi> Usually by the time they reply, they've already taken action, so I'm guessing it's the former
2:59 PM <@norman250> That's a shame
3:04 PM <@Volcano> damn
3:52 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/petereniiis, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63v2xt/ft_5iv_ha_torchic_lf_hp_fire_magnemite_or_offers/dfx828u )
4:07 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/Xamarqand, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5vkmqr/ft_events_trophy_legendaries_lf_events_custom/dfxaioh )
4:07 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/petereniiis, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63v2xt/ft_5iv_ha_torchic_lf_hp_fire_magnemite_or_offers/dfx8stj )
4:07 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/petereniiis, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63v2xt/ft_5iv_ha_torchic_lf_hp_fire_magnemite_or_offers/dfx8cgi )
4:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Hack possibly got traded. Reported this originally 10-20 minutes ago." (on comment by /u/wheatr, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63v2xt/ft_5iv_ha_torchic_lf_hp_fire_magnemite_or_offers/dfx9hg3 )
4:21 PM <~TSAR> so
4:22 PM <~TSAR> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63v2xt/ft_5iv_ha_torchic_lf_hp_fire_magnemite_or_offers/dfx828u/
4:22 PM <~TSAR> wheatr has this note
4:22 PM <~TSAR> [Minor Warning](tempban candidate if he breaks R3 soon after this)
4:23 PM <~TSAR> and in the thread they traded for a shiny Serperior that the other user obtained from a friend
4:23 PM <~TSAR> no info listed
4:23 PM <~TSAR> does that qualify for said R3 violation?
4:24 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Eh. If the shiny Serperior ends up getting blocked, that'd be enough punishment imo.
4:25 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Seriously, though, this guy should be looking at other subreddits if he doesn't care what he sends out or receives.
4:27 PM <@Volcano> "its not hacked either"
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4:31 PM <@Kirzi> I wouldn't call it a R3 violation
4:31 PM <@Kirzi> But I wouldn't mind warning him that carelessly trading like that again can also lead to a ban
4:31 PM <@Kirzi> He should know better
4:32 PM <~TSAR> I already posted something
4:32 PM <~TSAR> feel free to add to it
4:33 PM <@Kirzi> Eh, even without an explicit warning, we could still justify a temp
4:33 PM <@Kirzi> It's inevitable anyway I bet
4:33 PM <@Kirzi> explicit warning about a ban*
4:34 PM <~TSAR> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63v2xt/ft_5iv_ha_torchic_lf_hp_fire_magnemite_or_offers/dfxbovx/?context=3
4:35 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/Xamarqand, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/5vkmqr/ft_events_trophy_legendaries_lf_events_custom/dfxaooz )
4:35 PM <@Volcano> lol
4:35 PM <@Volcano> my b
4:41 PM <@Kirzi> If you guys want to go ahead and ban that dude, feel free
4:41 PM <@Kirzi> I'd prefer to check first, but a ban is pretty certain to happen either way so
4:45 PM <@Volcano> i can do it if iama isn't around to swing it
4:50 PM <@Volcano> Gonna do it now, any last words?
4:52 PM <@Kirzi> I'm trying and failing to think of anything dramatic
4:52 PM <@Volcano> Error 503: (Reddit response)
4:52 PM <@Volcano> but still went through
4:52 PM <@Kirzi> I usually hit it again to make sure everything happened that was suppoed to
4:53 PM <@Kirzi> supposed*
4:53 PM <@Volcano> He didnt get banned from SVExchange
4:53 PM <@Volcano> or at least I don't have the ban message in my messages
4:54 PM <@Kirzi> Yea just hit the button again
4:56 PM <@Volcano> got the check now after the 3rd time but still no SVE message
4:56 PM <@Kirzi> Oh maybe that's because he doesn't use SVex
4:56 PM <~TSAR> he wouldn't get a message if he wasn't active there
4:56 PM <@Kirzi> Doesn't it only message if you've posted at least once
4:57 PM <&Raia> posted or interacted with the sub, like voting
5:06 PM <@iama> wheatr? Yea temp his ass, have had to warn him so many times
5:06 PM <@iama> my personal opinion at any rate
5:07 PM <@iama> but fine with final warning
5:07 PM <@iama> I see we banned fwostbytee as well
5:16 PM <~TSAR> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63v2xt/ft_5iv_ha_torchic_lf_hp_fire_magnemite_or_offers/dfxe261/?context=3
5:19 PM <~TSAR> also
5:19 PM <~TSAR> https://www.reddit.com/message/messages/7zmjz0
5:19 PM <~TSAR> I'm not really on board with editing this dude's flair
5:19 PM <~TSAR> not sure what you guys think
5:26 PM <&Raia> meh, I'm fine with it
5:26 PM <&Raia> it's still a valid flair for AM and it doesn't hurt anyone
5:28 PM <~TSAR> .shrug
5:28 PM <+Porygon-Bot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5:30 PM <~TSAR> changed
5:31 PM <&Raia> o7
5:33 PM <@amab> 7o
5:33 PM <@amab> o77o
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7:58 PM <@Volcano> Shuael said it's heavily cloned/hacked Kirzi
7:58 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/hannahrocks0629, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63wt3r/lf_6iv_ditto_shiny_if_possible_ft_anything_gen_1/dfxluy2 )
7:58 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "No trading of hacked, cloned, or illegal Pokémon." (on comment by /u/Cali4471, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63wt3r/lf_6iv_ditto_shiny_if_possible_ft_anything_gen_1/dfxlt47 )
7:58 PM <@Volcano> cause back then Suicune had high comp value
7:58 PM <@Kirzi> Yea I doubt doubt that
7:58 PM <@Kirzi> Just saying, the "leaked online" part probably refers to static PID
7:58 PM <@Kirzi> don't doubt that*
7:58 PM <@Volcano> and she wouldn't trust anyone who was trading one, nor would she offer one
7:59 PM <@Volcano> Supposedly they're even banned from trade on the korean forums
7:59 PM <@Volcano> which sucked to find out cause I really wanted it
7:59 PM <@iama> who is endy's from?
8:00 PM <@Volcano> edimess
8:00 PM <@iama> ah. yeah I've always wondered
8:00 PM <@iama> cause I mean we really know jack about em
8:01 PM <@Volcano> Yeah I asked her if she could help me get one on Naver or the other secret korean spots
8:01 PM <@Volcano> she said its not allowed
8:01 PM <@Kirzi> r
8:01 PM <@Kirzi> RIP
8:02 PM <@Volcano> it makes sense though, it was exactly what you wanted for Suicune back then for comp play
8:03 PM <@Volcano> im also curious cause Endy has his listed as Rash
8:03 PM <@Volcano> but it is 100% definitely locked to Relaxed
8:03 PM <@Kirzi> Typo maybe
8:03 PM <@Kirzi> Since the Raikou's Rash
8:05 PM <@iama> probably
8:06 PM <@iama> what forum was flamezone on btw?
8:06 PM <@iama> cause they had a bunch of dogs
8:06 PM <@Volcano> he was on japan forums i believe
8:06 PM <@Kirzi> Nah it was KOR
8:07 PM <@Kirzi> At least one, anyway, could be both
8:07 PM <@Kirzi> https://i.imgur.com/GOOT8c5.png
8:08 PM <@Kirzi> Wherever that's from
8:08 PM <@iama> now that I think of it it was weird cause I asked him about a gen iv event once and he said his forum didn't allow them
8:08 PM <@iama> but then he offered gen iv dogs
8:08 PM <@iama> .shrug old news anyway
8:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
8:08 PM <@Volcano> thats Naver
8:08 PM <@Volcano> so yeah, explains why they weren't allowed then
8:10 PM <@Kirzi> I'm content with my set from lavaburst
9:57 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/hannahrocks0629, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63x9vx/ft_6th_gen_services_lf_throw_me_an_offer/dfxrdhe )
10:01 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Not that it matters, but going to agree with TSAR that that flair is ugly. I just don't understand how people don't give up on adding all their games after 3.
10:02 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Then again, it took me forever to bother adding Moon in. And I never did bother at all with ORAS.
10:08 PM <&Raia> I agree it's ugly, but I don't think we should care enough to stop them from doing it
10:08 PM <&Raia> it's not like we have to look at it
10:09 PM <@SnowPhoenix> It's still on our subreddit and dismantles the uniformity of the flairs, though.
10:09 PM <&Raia> if it's helpful to them to shove their last TSV in there, I'm happy to let them have it
10:09 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Like all those old [5th] flairs.
10:09 PM <&Raia> I don't think this goes that far
10:10 PM <@SnowPhoenix> To be honest, I don't mind the [5th] flairs as much because they're not inconsistent with all the others; they're just consistent with something from a different era.
10:11 PM <@SnowPhoenix> I'll just hope he gets another game and has to give up soon. ^_^
10:11 PM <&Raia> they're straight up obsolete now with Wi-Fi being dead
10:11 PM <&Raia> haha
10:12 PM <@iama> I don't really care what flair someone uses as long as the essential stuff is in there and the format is in rough order
10:13 PM <&Raia> yeah, my personal guideline for svex is basically "####-####-#### || IGNs || TSVs"
10:13 PM <&Raia> the spaces, pipes, and FC formatting are important
10:13 PM <@Kirzi> I care less about the flairs than the fact that people bother us for special treatment
10:14 PM <&Raia> I'm the opposite, I don't mind that people bother us for it because it's reddit's stupid limitation in the first place
10:14 PM <&Raia> I've told people in the daily thread multiple times they can modmail us if they need help working around the 64 character limit
10:15 PM <@Kirzi> Ah alright
10:15 PM <@SnowPhoenix> I think there is seriously a point where people should just realize you don't need all of them in there because n+1 games won't fit anyway.
10:15 PM <@Kirzi> I assumed people were just asking us out of nowhere
10:15 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Put your main, and maybe your main from the past series or your secondary game if you don't have one and then be done with it.
10:15 PM <@Kirzi> In which case everyone who doesn't bother asking is at a disadvantage
10:16 PM <@SnowPhoenix> The info should be in one's thread for that TSV anyway.
10:16 PM <&Raia> they're not at a disadvantage, anyone can ask
10:16 PM <&Raia> it's not our fault if they don't
10:16 PM <&Raia> 99% of people probably don't care
10:16 PM <@Kirzi> Yea, if we've gone around telling people they can, I don't care then
10:19 PM <@SnowPhoenix> I guess I don't understand why you care about the spacing and not the commas (and spacing between games), Raia.
10:20 PM <&Raia> because cutting punctuation/spacing between games is like the only way to save space
10:21 PM <&Raia> and we've talked about letting users put whatever they want in there as long as they have a FC
10:21 PM <@SnowPhoenix> ####-####-#### ||IGNs||TSVs is still valid as far as our automod check is concerned too.
10:21 PM <&Raia> so if the user approaches us with the solution of cutting out spaces/commas, then I'll let them do it because it's something we might have let them do anyway with freeform
10:21 PM <&Raia> that's just 2 ugly tho
10:21 PM <&Raia> that's crossing a line
10:21 PM <@SnowPhoenix> I feel like the line has already been crossed here.
10:22 PM <&Raia> not if you put spaces after the line
10:22 PM <@SnowPhoenix> boooooooo dat pun
10:22 PM <&Raia> :D
10:22 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Heh.
10:22 PM <@iama> Raia: \o/
10:23 PM <&Raia> o/
10:23 PM <@iama> \o
10:23 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Raia o/\o iama
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11:25 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Threatens, harrasses, or bullies" (on comment by /u/Jesse-VW, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63r67x/ftkoko_code_lfother_events/dfxicec )
11:27 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Threatens, harrasses, or bullies" (on comment by /u/Jesse-VW, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63xoxp/ftseveral_events_lfother_eventsoffer/dfxvb1g )
11:29 PM <@iama> I haven't tagged yet but I did block
11:30 PM <@iama> Check his history
11:30 PM <@iama> Not sure if my block timestamp was after that though
11:30 PM <@iama> @SP
11:32 PM <@SnowPhoenix> He's apparently also claiming to have a self-obtained 2010 WCS Shiny Espeon [JPN].
11:34 PM <@Volcano> Oh wow
11:34 PM <@Volcano> Lemme go offer on that
11:34 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Heh.
11:34 PM <@iama> ...lol
11:35 PM <@iama> Volcano: I think Kirzi might actually kill you
11:35 PM <@Kirzi> Ew touched
11:35 PM <@Kirzi> He's probably just full of shit though
11:36 PM <@iama> Ah damn I blocked only an hour ago
11:36 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63unkk/ftkokodonachucorozard_codesaoris_machamp/dfxezt5/
11:36 PM <@Kirzi> Nevermind, we know that already
11:38 PM <@iama> nuked the rest of his history
11:40 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Cool.
11:41 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Let's see. Options. Could a) ask him for the origins on the existing topic and see if he lies, then TEA check them all or ask for photo proof of a JPN 3DS (though given that he's looking for Koko codes, he miiiiiiiight actually have one?), or b) TEA check the Espeon and hope we find something conclusive.
11:42 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Anyone have any alternative suggestions?
11:43 PM <@iama> proof of the Espeon/going to wcs
11:43 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Breaking reddit" (on submission by /u/DIckBallston, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63xo3a/lf_jolly_kartana_adamant_buzzwole_in_beast_balls/ )
11:43 PM <@SnowPhoenix> He already said it's proofless. We could try for attendance proof, but that's probably going to be worthless even if we get anything.
11:44 PM <@iama> oh he did?
11:44 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Yep.
11:44 PM <@iama> yeah it wouldn't do much anyway
11:44 PM <@SnowPhoenix> "Im looking for a [JPN] Tapu Koko, I have a 2010 WCS Shiny Espeon [JPN] if your interested. OT: WCS ID: 01110 - Hardy - Male. Self Obtained proofless."
11:48 PM <@iama> either way tea seems likely
11:50 PM <@Kirzi> r to report
11:54 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "wrong tag" (on submission by /u/Goteeko2, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63y35w/lf_event_pokemon_ft_event_pokemon/ )
11:55 PM <@Kirzi> a
11:55 PM <@Kirzi> But yea I'd just TEA that dude
11:56 PM <@Kirzi> I can't find anything on him, except that he's in AUS
11:56 PM <@Kirzi> And his only events are cheap recent ones, and passerby events
11:56 PM <@Kirzi> No way he actually got that in Japan
11:58 PM <@SnowPhoenix> You want to handle it, or shall I? I still have to deal with that annoying "install appropriate version of NTR depending on the gen and hope it works" thing.
11:59 PM <@SnowPhoenix> And what are your thoughts about seeing if he lies about the other three to potentially get a wider range of things we can ban for if hacked?