1992 LGPS German GP commentary

19:42:12: <Axel> How many laps is the race?
19:42:23: <Nuppiz> 52
19:42:30: <Pasta> Hoping to hear either Jan van der Maeyede or Kickert is in the lead :P
19:42:48: <Nuppiz> VDM is on pole, Kickert 3rd
19:43:00: <Axel> lol Klon
19:43:03: <Pasta> Nuppiz I saw :P
19:43:04: <dark77> oh dear
19:43:04: <Rated> Oops. My fault, I should have wrote on the forum about Zaugg driving instead of Bell. That'll be for the next race then
19:43:12: <dark77> we're still slower than Hashimoto :/
19:44:02: <Nuppiz> Rated if you want to make it sure that I'll remember it, add it on the wiki
19:44:07: <Axel> What happen to Anker
19:44:16: <Nuppiz> that's where I usually check the driver changes from :P
19:44:23: <Rated> Okay ^^
19:44:42: <Nuppiz> Axel, the same thing as Stalic in the main qualifying
19:44:52: <Nuppiz> didn't start a proper lap at all
19:45:08: <Nuppiz> so that's a simulated time
19:46:23: <Nuppiz> staller estimates?
19:46:29: <JamesGeneric> Right, I'm ready
19:46:34: <JamesGeneric> 2
19:46:57: <Pi3141> 3
19:47:25: <Rated> 1
19:47:53: <Nuppiz> and Rated is correct!
19:48:03: <Nuppiz> Geoff Donnelly is the only staller
19:48:15: <FMecha> is it go now!
19:48:17: <Rated> And is already eating a pie
19:48:18: <JamesGeneric> Yikes
19:48:30: <Stramala> I think I am going to pull IBR out of Life GP
19:48:34: <Stramala> it's just one series too far for me
19:48:42: <dark77> god damnit halfop hasn't worked :/
19:48:51: <Pasta> And it's not doing all that well
19:48:54: <Pasta> Stramala
19:49:03: <Pasta> Dark77 how do you do it again?
19:49:24: <JamesGeneric> Better try to run LeMans first
19:49:34: <dark77> type in "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY (your password)"
19:49:55: <Stramala> what?
19:50:14: <Pasta> Wheyy
19:50:15: <Nuppiz> Karimov collides with Sunset, no visible damage in the latter car but the Uzbek has to pit for a new front wing
19:50:43: <Nuppiz> meanwhile Pieter Kickert is... going places
19:51:05: <FMecha> Where's Pulaski?
19:51:07: <Nuppiz> he's somehow managed to get his car on the wrong side of the barriers
19:51:21: <Pasta> oh god not again!!!!!
19:51:24: <FMecha> boo
19:51:27: <FMecha> :(
19:51:53: <Stramala> I hope you are all ready...the RWSCC is about to begin!
19:52:09: <Nuppiz> Pulaski is 25th and on the track Fmecha
19:52:19: <FMecha> dead last?
19:52:22: <Nuppiz> Kickert still trying the Mantis approach
19:52:23: <Pi3141> So you've done the 23 car?
19:52:30: <Stramala> pi3141, you have a PM, haven't you noticed?
19:52:45: <Nuppiz> third-last, Arnason and Kickert are behind him
19:52:49: <JamesGeneric> or Madunochev now
19:53:15: <JamesGeneric> But let it with Mantis
19:53:41: <Nuppiz> oh so that's how it happens!
19:54:05: <Nuppiz> Kickert clips Wilson's rear wheel in the first corner and simply rolls over the barriers
19:54:20: <Pasta> Kickert's got going? GreaT!
19:54:28: <Pasta> Now, where's Jan van der Muppet?
19:54:45: <Cynon> van der Muppet?
19:54:49: <Nuppiz> no, Kickert is still on the other side of the Berlin Wall
19:55:11: <Nuppiz> meanwhile VDM has already ceded two positions and is currently third
19:55:18: <Pasta> Cynon Jan van der Maeyede
19:55:30: <Cynon> Jan van der Muppet Treasure Island?
19:55:32: <Cynon> :D
19:55:35: <Nuppiz> Will Roberts with a superb start is second
19:55:50: <Pasta> Stramala I know what you mean.... FGCR have no luck here either!
19:55:51: <Pi3141> That's weird, I haven't got your PM.
19:56:02: <Stramala> its on the tab above the chat....
19:56:19: <Stramala> Home - Mibbit<< - #F1Rejects (12) - Stramala
19:56:28: <Nuppiz> hang on!
19:56:30: <Pi3141> Oh, in the chat, I thought on the forum.
19:56:33: <Stramala> nope
19:56:47: <Nuppiz> it was Roberts who pitched Kickert into a series of rolls!
19:57:18: <JamesGeneric> poor Kickert
19:58:02: <Nuppiz> Bell in the wall, looks like a heavy shunt!
19:58:17: <SuperAguri> aerond have you logged in with your password
19:59:13: <Rated> oh
19:59:34: <Nuppiz> OH! OH! OH!
19:59:43: <Nuppiz> it was Gaera!
19:59:59: <Nuppiz> his brakes fail into the first corner and he rear-ends Bell!
20:00:29: <Nuppiz> Bell initially manages to continue but then hits another wall in his confusion
20:00:40: <Pasta> Aerond's here?
20:00:47: <Pasta> Step in line folks
20:01:04: <Nuppiz> meanwhile Gaera rolled a few times, it sure looks scary
20:01:23: <Pi3141> Aerond, can I reduce the price of my tires to 150 credits. I think Wizzie is ok with paying less.
20:01:37: <Aerond> Yes
20:01:40: <Aerond> 150 then
20:01:46: <Stramala> I thought the cost of tyres was proportional to its performance
20:01:53: <Aerond> No
20:02:00: <Aerond> It's the price the manufacturer gives
20:02:10: <Stramala> oh
20:02:15: <Nuppiz> and Kickert has found the Void
20:02:22: <Pi3141> So Bell and Gaera are out.
20:02:27: <Nuppiz> he's definitely not contnuing his race anymore
20:02:28: <Stramala> I'm still not 100% certain of the tyre rules
20:02:30: <mr_pants> van der maeyede on pole
20:02:36: <mr_pants> im guessing hes out now, right?
20:02:39: <Nuppiz> 3r
20:02:40: <Aerond> Just ask whatever crosses your mind
20:02:41: <Nuppiz> d
20:02:41: <Stramala> is there any advantages for them not spending their entire 500cr budget right away?
20:02:49: <Pi3141> And Kickert has copied Madunochev and fell into the void.
20:02:50: <Aerond> I don't think so
20:02:57: <mr_pants> 3rd?
20:03:02: <mr_pants> whos ahead of him?
20:03:03: <Pasta> Why does no one want Michelins.
20:03:05: <Pasta> Why.
20:03:08: <Pasta> There only 85 credits
20:03:18: <Aerond> Wait till market opens
20:03:24: <Nuppiz> mr_pants, Wilson and Roberts
20:03:30: <Aerond> My guess is one or two will change their minds
20:03:31: <Aerond> :)
20:03:42: <Stramala> uhm what
20:03:44: <Stramala> what market?
20:03:49: <Stramala> I don't remember tyres being part of a 'market'
20:03:51: <Pi3141> Maybe because roblomas gets Michelin in 2017?
20:03:55: <Aerond> Tyre market
20:03:58: <mr_pants> wat
20:03:58: <Stramala> oh I am so very confused :(
20:04:02: <Pi3141> what
20:04:03: <Aerond> All tyre stats will be published
20:04:07: <Stramala> o_O
20:04:09: <mr_pants> why is roberts suddenly good now?
20:04:27: <Nuppiz> IDK, he got a super start from 7th
20:04:36: <Nuppiz> punted off Kickert along the way though...
20:04:46: <Pi3141> Ok, so I can make my tyre stats public right now: Of the 500 credits I spent 80 on random grip, 110 on dry weather qualifying grip, 150 on dry weather race grip, 70 on wet weather qualifying grip and 90 on wet weather race grip.
20:04:48: <Aerond> So every owner can compare and know what to buy
20:04:53: <Aerond> NOOOOOOOOOOO
20:05:01: <Pi3141> Why not?
20:05:03: <Aerond> :p
20:05:03: <Aerond> You are not supposed to tell
20:05:12: <mr_pants> huh
20:05:17: <Pi3141> I didn't know that.
20:05:28: <mr_pants> well, how are donnelly and gomes getting on?
20:05:42: <Nuppiz> wait, VDM is 2nd
20:05:49: <Nuppiz> something has happened to ROberts
20:06:00: <mr_pants> im not complaining
20:06:15: <mr_pants> m's car inevitably blows up
20:06:16: <mr_pants> ill save that for when vd
20:06:35: <Aerond> pi3141 anyway you may get your stats altered by the commission
20:06:58: <Aerond> I can tell that some tyre stats will be altered
20:08:04: <Nuppiz> nothing special it seems, just a series of clean overtakes by other drivers
20:08:12: <Nuppiz> Roberts is now 5th
20:08:40: <Axel> How's Generic?
20:08:45: <Nuppiz> Gomes 20th, Donnelly stalled
20:08:58: <Nuppiz> Generic 12th
20:11:54: <Nuppiz> Gomes retires!
20:12:46: <Pi3141> Are Bell and Gaera ok?
20:12:57: <Nuppiz> Bell should be OK
20:13:06: <Nuppiz> Gaera, not so much
20:13:52: <Pi3141> And what are my drivers doing?
20:14:22: <Nuppiz> Mazzacane is 11th, just overtaken by Generic
20:14:35: <Nuppiz> Balivernes 17th
20:15:29: <Nuppiz> 16th, as Koumettou collides with a few others and loses some ground without any apparent damage to the car
20:15:42: <SuperAguri> pi31415927 : You still not said what yout Dunlops are as three tyre companies make and brand Dunlops in the world, Goodyear, Sumitomo and Continental...
20:17:07: <Aerond> Goodbye guys
20:17:12: <Nuppiz> and VDM's gearbox is stuck in 5th
20:17:13: <Aerond> Job finished
20:17:14: <Aerond> :)
20:17:19: <Nuppiz> bb
20:18:35: <Pi3141> Goodyear doesn't make sense since they are involved in F1RWRS with the Goodyear brand, Continental was also a different tyre supplier in 2015, so I guess it has to be Sumitomo.
20:19:30: <Nuppiz> Arthurs is spewing smoke
20:24:29: <FMecha> is Pulaski out?
20:24:44: <Nuppiz> Arthurs' engine finally blows up
20:25:05: <Nuppiz> no, Pulaski is still in, 17th in fact
20:25:05: <Pi3141> How many laps are left?
20:25:13: <Nuppiz> I would've said if he had retired
20:25:36: <Nuppiz> 38 laps to go
20:26:16: <SuperAguri> pi : fantastic :D
20:26:28: <SuperAguri> hope many dunlop teams are signed up?
20:26:54: <FMecha> would swapping Pulaski and Tenpenny make Frank able to start? (not a change, just a question)
20:26:57: <Pi3141> So far, only MRT is confirmed.
20:27:20: <Stramala> I hope it rains a lot in the races then
20:27:23: <Nuppiz> technically, yes
20:27:38: <Nuppiz> as it's car-dependent, not driver-dependent
20:27:41: <SuperAguri> are we allowed to haggle or is it a fixed price? :P
20:28:05: <Nuppiz> but the system will change after the Swiss SP so no driver change is going to help you
20:28:06: <FMecha> let's swap Pulaski and Tenpenny next round, since Pulaski's car are now safe from PQ
20:28:17: <Stramala> can we sign a three year contract and save even more money? :D
20:28:23: <Stramala> half it again
20:28:26: <Stramala> 40 credits per season
20:28:29: <Stramala> yeah :D
20:28:41: <Nuppiz> FMecha, the next round is the Swiss SP, where all cars will qualify
20:28:49: <FMecha> Nuppiz, then cancel that plan
20:28:52: <Pi3141> No, I'm not that desperately in need for cash yet.
20:29:01: <Nuppiz> and after that the prequalifiers are determined by championship positions
20:31:56: <Nuppiz> Braggia is smoking
20:32:10: <Stramala> what? Marlboros? Richmonds?
20:32:15: <Stramala> Benson and Hedges?
20:32:25: <Nuppiz> West, based on his car
20:32:58: <Pi3141> Bitten Heroes?
20:33:14: <Nuppiz> Be On Edge?
20:33:46: <Pi3141> East?
20:33:54: <Nuppiz> Baker retires, gearbox
20:34:28: <FMecha> Stramala/pi3141, maybe Moto Sport?
20:34:50: <Nuppiz> "?" is my bet
20:35:32: <Nuppiz> Braggia's engine blows up
20:35:52: <FMecha> so that's it
20:35:53: <FMecha> eh?
20:36:07: <Pi3141> Bye
20:36:10: <Nuppiz> that's it for him
20:37:47: <Nuppiz> 30 lp
20:37:57: <Nuppiz> 30 laps, 19 cars to go
20:39:29: <Axel> Need to sleep
20:39:57: <FMecha> me too, self-imposed curfew being violated
20:40:08: <Nuppiz> Richardson retires
20:43:00: <Nuppiz> Half of the race still left
20:44:47: <Nuppiz> Jong-Sung is smoking
20:44:56: <Nuppiz> a bit of flames, too
20:46:40: <Nuppiz> and he's out
20:48:50: <Nuppiz> JERICHO!
20:48:55: <Nuppiz> ooh
20:50:17: <Nuppiz> he rolls over and hits the wall, but manages to continue with only a lost front wing
20:51:07: <Nuppiz> Pedro Capilé was the instigator here, this calls for a penalty as he was already lapped at the moment!
20:55:09: <Nuppiz> zzzzzz...
20:55:27: <dark77> lol
20:56:07: <Nuppiz> after a promising start this race has descended into a borefest
20:56:37: <Nuppiz> Arnason retires
20:56:59: <Nuppiz> even the retirements are boring, they just stop on the track without any drama :<
20:58:09: <DalekSam> so I'm looking at articles on the FIA's website
20:58:20: <DalekSam> able penalties for �crimes�, based on historical data.�
20:58:20: <DalekSam> �The Stewards also have a list of penalties they can refer to dating back to 2003,� Whiting added. �It�s categorised by offence and penalty, so the Stewards can quickly see who�s done what, where, and what penalties were handed out. That way they can, for example, look at all the penalties given for causing a collision over past seasons and then cross reference that with the video and you pretty quickly come up with suit
20:58:56: <DalekSam> i can see how this is handy but isn't influencing a single incident from previous ones kinda against the point
20:59:13: <DalekSam> especially from ones that may be over a few years old
20:59:15: <Nuppiz> Karimov retires, gearbox
21:02:51: <Nuppiz> 10 laps to go
21:02:57: <Nuppiz> 15 cars still remaining
21:04:50: <Nuppiz> DO NASCIMENTo1
21:04:55: <Nuppiz> DO NASCIMENTO!
21:05:04: <Nuppiz> that looks like a heavy impact!
21:05:25: <Nuppiz> Koumettou is there too, but he manages to continue with a broken front wing
21:07:35: <dark77> i'm amazed how popular the extremely slow Nicchi seat was
21:10:46: <Nuppiz> oh
21:11:35: <Nuppiz> so, Koumettou tries to lap do Nascimento on the inside of Turn 4, but do Nascimento turns ever so slightly in his path
21:11:41: <Nuppiz> resulting in a massive prang
21:11:54: <dark77> ouch
21:12:04: <Cynon> that will buff out
21:12:59: <Nuppiz> and just moments after the crash Koumettou's engine blows up
21:14:16: <Nuppiz> 13 cars remaining
21:14:32: <Nuppiz> that means this race won't break the record after all
21:15:59: <Nuppiz> especially not now as Stalic retires with a broken gearbox
21:17:31: <Nuppiz> Howard in the wall!
21:18:24: <Nuppiz> nothing dramatic
21:19:22: <Nuppiz> and Graham retires!
21:19:34: <Nuppiz> now they're falling out left right centre!
21:19:50: <wizzie> Life GP, I presume?
21:19:55: <Nuppiz> yup
21:20:09: <Nuppiz> two serious crashes again with potential injuries
21:21:10: <Nuppiz> what a shame for Graham, she was running 2nd but the car just decided to stop there
21:22:09: <Nuppiz> and Wilson starts the last lap by lapping Danny Ramone, who is now 2nd...
21:23:30: <Nuppiz> and he wins the German GP!
21:24:32: <Stramala> Wilson isn't an AndreaModa driver is it?
21:24:59: <dark77> yeah
21:25:38: <Nuppiz> and last year's champion
21:25:45: <Nuppiz> so, final result
21:27:46: <Nuppiz> 1. Dave Wilson 2. Danny Ramone 3. Will Roberts 4. James Generic 5. Jose Pablo Mazzacane 6. Vic Sunset 7. Jean-Pierre Balivernes 8. Chris Jericho 9. Eddie Pulaski (10.) Rachel Graham 11. Pedro Capilé (12.) Marky Howard
21:28:33: <Nuppiz> drivers in parentheses did not finish but were classified for completing more than 90% of the race distance
21:28:38: <Stramala> http://f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6137&p=241398#p241398
21:28:38: <Stramala> for anyone that gives a damn; R1 of RWSCC is now available to play
21:28:41: <dark77> *currently making RWRS intro video*
21:28:44: <Stramala> if you haven't entered yet, you still can
21:28:50: <Stramala> it's never too late :D
21:29:02: <dark77> hmm
21:29:11: <dark77> stramala can you play TM nations maps on TM united?
21:29:44: <Stramala> maybe
21:29:46: <Stramala> never tried it
21:29:54: <Stramala> but I think all TM games use .gbx
21:29:56: <Stramala> so it's possible
21:30:13: <wizzie> I'm pretty sure youu can use TM Nations maps on TM United
21:30:23: <dark77> k i might join in the fun then...
21:31:05: <Stramala> go onto the thread, post your entry
21:31:07: <Stramala> you will need
21:31:08: <Stramala> IIRC
21:31:23: <Stramala> Driver Name, Driver Nationality, Car Number, Car Manufacturer, Sponsors, Livery Idea
21:32:51: <dark77> cool, nuppiz remember when pasta asked you to upload the IFRC liveries?
21:33:21: <Nuppiz> and?
21:33:27: <dark77> do you still have the link
21:34:40: <Nuppiz> http://www.mediafire.com/download/l3gaiew4im47854/IFRC.zip
21:34:47: <dark77> thanks ;)
21:35:50: <dark77> alternatively, kiitos
21:37:43: <Nuppiz> eipä kestä
21:40:43: <Nuppiz> Fastest lap: Dave Wilson, 0:50.031 on lap 6
21:41:43: <Nuppiz> ROTR: V.I.D.A., with both drivers causing collisions while being lapped
21:44:20: <Nuppiz> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nuppiz live cast of both serious accidents
21:45:18: <captain_getz> heyo, is the race almost over yet again when I show up?
21:45:29: <Nuppiz> it is completely over
21:45:41: <Nuppiz> Sunset was 6th and scored a point
21:46:00: <Nuppiz> here's a couple of the big crashes this evening: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nuppiz
21:46:25: <captain_getz> again i start in the back and have to navigate the carnage to get up there
21:47:00: <dark77> crap was there a stream?
21:47:27: <dark77> oh wait no
21:47:28: <Nuppiz> there is now
21:47:34: <dark77> that looks bad
21:47:41: <captain_getz> looks much better than the RTCC tried it
21:47:51: <dark77> lol
21:48:27: <dark77> that's because when i was doing RTCC i was using the piece of shit known as xsplit (it rhymes!)
21:48:49: <dark77> now i use Open Broadcaster Software which is what nuppiz is using
21:48:59: <dark77> OUCH
21:49:10: <dark77> that guy in the blue car would be dead in real life
21:49:47: <Nuppiz> Joe Gaera
21:50:01: <captain_getz> jesus, did he catch the wall with his head???
21:50:10: <dark77> looks like it
21:50:53: <captain_getz> how come Joe gets a custom helmet logo?
21:51:55: <Nuppiz> yup, his helmet hits the wall :C
21:52:16: <Nuppiz> and every driver has the Leyton House logo on the helmet
21:52:33: <captain_getz> oh, never mind then
21:52:56: <Nuppiz> well, except for the Sandinista drivers because they are based on another team
21:52:59: <Nuppiz> anyway
21:53:06: <Nuppiz> let's look for the next crash
21:53:30: <captain_getz> where gonna be here all day if we're going to see all the screwups :P
21:53:47: <captain_getz> *we;re
21:55:04: <captain_getz> who was fastest top speed-wise if I may ask?
21:55:14: <Nuppiz> IDK
21:56:32: <Nuppiz> and now, the big one
21:57:08: <Nuppiz> are you ready?
21:57:45: <dark77> ohh, big hit
21:58:12: <captain_getz> how is it? It didnt take his head off
21:59:15: <Nuppiz> well
21:59:29: <Nuppiz> he hit the wall head-on at almost top speed
21:59:42: <Nuppiz> in a freaking Life :S
22:01:02: <captain_getz> true
22:01:13: <captain_getz> can you tell is the final results?
22:01:15: <captain_getz> *us
22:02:09: <Nuppiz> http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc464/Nuppiz/F1C/92Germany_zps471266b4.jpg
22:02:28: <Stramala> his head injury should be worn as a badge of stupidity
22:02:38: <Stramala> "I managed to injure myself by crashing the slowest F1 car ever made!"
22:03:01: <wizzie> Well, the badge of stupidity already came when he agreed to step in one of those shitboxes to start with :P
22:03:13: <captain_getz> well I dont think a Lotus 49 could beat it, otherwise that would be pretty embarassing
22:03:26: <Nuppiz> well, if you're talking about Joe Gaera, then I may inform you that it was caused by a brake failure at 240km/h
22:04:37: <Nuppiz> Gaera and Do Nascimento are definitely injured
22:04:55: <Nuppiz> for how long, that'll still take some time to determine
22:05:01: <captain_getz> 11 finishers? What soecery is happening??
22:06:00: <Nuppiz> 10 finishers, plus two retirements classified for being over 90%
22:06:24: <Nuppiz> between Gaera's and do Nascimento's accidents the race was rather boring
22:06:51: <captain_getz> well what would you expect from a course with two corners?
22:07:13: <captain_getz> Id rather have it at the Norisring. Same structural quality, but more interesting
22:07:21: <Nuppiz> four, actually
22:09:02: <Nuppiz> Südkurve, Bremskurve (two chicanes), unnamed kink before Nordkurve (where do Nascimento crashed), Nordkurve
22:10:52: <captain_getz> at least I got to test my car at a course thats mostley straights, good warm-up for the Le Mans Superprix
22:12:56: <Nuppiz> urrrr
22:13:08: <Nuppiz> methinks Gaera's season is over :/
22:13:39: <Nuppiz> or then he'll just barely make it to his home race
22:14:17: <captain_getz> oh Nuppiz, have you tested that 356 series yet?
22:14:29: <captain_getz> cause I am interested in entering
22:14:43: <Nuppiz> I've been testing it all the time
22:14:52: <Nuppiz> it's next in the pipeline