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  1. Hey Winston
  2. [15:25]
  3. How are you ?
  4.  
  5. Winston Hope SmithToday at 15:53
  6. HI SM how are you, I got your message just busy... should have time to chat in about an hour
  7.  
  8. ValkyrjaToday at 16:03
  9. Well, just leave me a message when you can, it's ok
  10. [16:03]
  11. It was for talking about eDom, the message I sent you
  12. [16:03]
  13. Since Franky sent me to you
  14. [16:03]
  15. But here is more... close, you know
  16.  
  17. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:50
  18. http://prntscr.com/takge9 http://prntscr.com/takfv5
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  24.  
  25. [16:51]
  26. So if I understand you Greenland is you latest project?
  27. [16:51]
  28. Remember you also did Norway and we returned regions, you left and we never got back? This is a repeat?
  29.  
  30. ValkyrjaToday at 16:54
  31. Greenland was going to be huge project, by 30 players
  32. [16:54]
  33. Right now, like 20 of them decided to take UAE
  34.  
  35. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:54
  36. What I am saying is we will need to see a longer time period of activity to even consider this. The history is not good. My advise is start your project and when reshuffle happens come back to us, the reshuffle is in about a month, so you should have a period to show this is not "another flash in the pan"
  37.  
  38. ValkyrjaToday at 16:54
  39. In Greenland we will be 6-10 players in the first days
  40.  
  41. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:54
  42. The Reshuffle could answer your need anyway
  43.  
  44. ValkyrjaToday at 16:55
  45. I would ask for my cores after reshuffle, we do agree on that.
  46. [16:55]
  47. Yes, but I expect that if that region is needed by Ireland, at least, you pay Greenland for it.
  48. [16:55]
  49. Admin says he won't help Greenland
  50.  
  51. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:55
  52. Yes I understand this my point is will they be there in 30 days?
  53.  
  54. ValkyrjaToday at 16:55
  55. Since he helped to Greenland to another player.
  56. [16:55]
  57. Uhmm I would like now, for at least promoting our country and project
  58. [16:55]
  59. I understand you don't want, since you prefer we wait and you keep the bonus kept
  60.  
  61. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:55
  62. So once again you join a country and expect others to jump to your tune?
  63. [16:56]
  64. so tomorrow UK? next Canada? USA?
  65.  
  66. ValkyrjaToday at 16:56
  67. Uhmmm well, I don't describe it the same way you do.
  68.  
  69. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:56
  70. you see my point
  71.  
  72. ValkyrjaToday at 16:56
  73. UK never.
  74. [16:56]
  75. Canada was my other option
  76.  
  77. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:56
  78. but the point
  79.  
  80. ValkyrjaToday at 16:56
  81. It was Greenland or Canada
  82. [16:56]
  83. USA never
  84. [16:56]
  85. I get your point
  86.  
  87. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:56
  88. Canada had a vote and is not a colony of Ireland
  89.  
  90. ValkyrjaToday at 16:56
  91. You think I am a kid asking for everybody moves for my orders
  92.  
  93. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:56
  94. It is IRELAND
  95. [16:57]
  96. No
  97. [16:57]
  98. what I am saying this is a repeat
  99. [16:57]
  100. and last time we helped you
  101. [16:57]
  102. and look now
  103. [16:57]
  104. we lost all rights
  105. [16:57]
  106. and you left it dead
  107.  
  108. ValkyrjaToday at 16:57
  109. Last time you helped Denmark and we kept the regions
  110. [16:57]
  111. As contract said
  112. [16:57]
  113. Not me
  114.  
  115. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:57
  116. Norway
  117.  
  118. ValkyrjaToday at 16:57
  119. It was thanks to CGRM
  120. [16:58]
  121. I was Denmark, and we requested Norwegian regions.
  122.  
  123. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:58
  124. we gave you Norway
  125. [16:58]
  126. yes
  127.  
  128. ValkyrjaToday at 16:58
  129. Yes
  130. [16:58]
  131. To Denmark
  132. [16:58]
  133. I was Denmark
  134.  
  135. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:58
  136. and you left
  137.  
  138. ValkyrjaToday at 16:58
  139. And I asked for Norway
  140. [16:58]
  141. I didn't
  142. [16:58]
  143. I had a project
  144. [16:58]
  145. We moved from 47 players to 115
  146.  
  147. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:58
  148. my point is this is a repeat
  149.  
  150. ValkyrjaToday at 16:58
  151. Denmark was big
  152. [16:58]
  153. CGRM came to help with a lot of players
  154. [16:58]
  155. One day they all left for moving to Brazil
  156.  
  157. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:58
  158. Denmark is dead now Sweden has it and Norway
  159. [16:58]
  160. and we lost out
  161.  
  162. ValkyrjaToday at 16:58
  163. So Denmark couldn't be defended by 6-7 players who average level was 19
  164.  
  165. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:59
  166. because we helped you
  167. [16:59]
  168. I am not saying no
  169.  
  170. ValkyrjaToday at 16:59
  171. I made all the points of the contract.
  172. [16:59]
  173. I defended the region from all the attacks
  174. [16:59]
  175. We covered it and treated it the best way
  176. [16:59]
  177. Just, as you may understand, if the country gets alone, I won't be alone in a country
  178. [16:59]
  179. I can not defend it alone
  180.  
  181. Winston Hope SmithToday at 16:59
  182. You understand why I am hesitant to repeat our mistake last time?(edited)
  183. [17:00]
  184. I am not blaming you
  185.  
  186. ValkyrjaToday at 17:00
  187. I don't feel it was a mistake. Thanks to your help Denmark grew up a lot. We were more than 50 active players before, now is not much, before it was.
  188. [17:00]
  189. We made an agreement. Denmark had to defend those regions till the very end.
  190. [17:00]
  191. We did it. We were never conquisted.
  192.  
  193. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:01
  194. just the result of helping you was we lost out without what was promised getting delivered... it is now Sweden(edited)
  195.  
  196. ValkyrjaToday at 17:01
  197. Just, if CGRM leaves, and takes all citizens to Brazil... as you understand probably, I won't stay alone in Denmark being attacked by Germany, Sweden, Norway and Poland.
  198. [17:01]
  199. I will negotiate with Sweden for I can take Norwegian lands as Greenland.
  200.  
  201. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:01
  202. JFTR Sweden attacked China starting that war
  203. [17:02]
  204. Show me staying power and we can talk again
  205.  
  206. ValkyrjaToday at 17:02
  207. You want I contact you again in 3 days ?
  208. [17:02]
  209. As I said, I understand you. I will wait to reshuffle.
  210.  
  211. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:02
  212. lolol 3 days is not staying power
  213. [17:02]
  214. yes
  215.  
  216. ValkyrjaToday at 17:02
  217. But my question is:(edited)
  218. [17:02]
  219. What do we do if you still need our core ?
  220. [17:03]
  221. Because I want to start promoting Greenland in 3 days
  222. [17:03]
  223. Howver, you have my core under your power.
  224. [17:03]
  225. I had to liberate 2 regions from Denmark and 1 from Ireland
  226.  
  227. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:04
  228. and this might even be sorted... we won't want debuff if no use and give it up. In deal we did with Denmark I was the one who insisted that Greenland was not wiped and you always would have a region.... I am always fair and I am saying just show me this is not another project that will be dead in 3 weeks at our cost(edited)
  229. [17:05]
  230. and we can talk
  231. [17:05]
  232. and it will be all amicable
  233.  
  234. ValkyrjaToday at 17:07
  235. Well, if you want I be even more clear, I am tired of being part of countries that care nothing about their citizens.
  236. [17:07]
  237. I was in Croatia and I was tired of always fighting
  238. [17:07]
  239. In Colombia was just farming
  240. [17:07]
  241. In Germany I had to deal with a bunch of idiots
  242. [17:07]
  243. I want something peaceful, like familiar, just a close and small group of close friends
  244. [17:07]
  245. I will stay in Greenland with 20 regions or 0 regions.
  246.  
  247. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:07
  248. There are many countries like this
  249.  
  250. ValkyrjaToday at 17:08
  251. Tell me one country
  252.  
  253. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:08
  254. inc Ireland
  255.  
  256. ValkyrjaToday at 17:08
  257. Ireland ?
  258. [17:08]
  259. Do you really think I will be respected and liked in Ireland ?
  260.  
  261. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:08
  262. actually Irelanda
  263.  
  264. ValkyrjaToday at 17:08
  265. Winston...
  266. [17:08]
  267. Winston, please...
  268. [17:08]
  269. I am not a kid
  270. [17:08]
  271. Don't act as if I am one
  272. [17:08]
  273. In Ireland you don't want to see me even in a picture.
  274. [17:08]
  275. Ireland in eRep was the best place I ever was
  276.  
  277. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:08
  278. I am not suggesting you join Ireland I am saying many countries are like you describe
  279.  
  280. ValkyrjaToday at 17:08
  281. In eDominations... they already insulted me many times...
  282. [17:09]
  283. I can not go to Ireland, I want to find a country I describe and that I can be part of it.
  284.  
  285. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:10
  286. Yes I see that but if you wish others to "make room" for you you need to show this is not another project like before(edited)
  287. [17:10]
  288. thats all I am saying
  289. [17:11]
  290. Most people in this game want it to develop and are reasonable
  291. [17:11]
  292. But we helped you before and it cost us
  293.  
  294. ValkyrjaToday at 17:12
  295. But you agree that I did the agreement about defending (as the points marked) the regions
  296. [17:12]
  297. I did all you asked for
  298. [17:12]
  299. And for me, it wasn't a failed project
  300. [17:12]
  301. It had more citizens (active ones) than many other countries
  302. [17:12]
  303. We were congratulated by Administration
  304. [17:12]
  305. We had more than 17 regions
  306.  
  307. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:12
  308. and now?
  309.  
  310. ValkyrjaToday at 17:12
  311. Starting from zero, in just a bunch of days
  312. [17:13]
  313. Since CGRM left and took all the players, I got alone, and had to leave.
  314. [17:13]
  315. Do you really pretend me to defend 17 regions from Germany, Poland, Sweden and Norway ?
  316.  
  317. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:13
  318. OK and for Ireland that was not what was the plan.... whatever the cause
  319. [17:13]
  320. so how can we be sure this won't happen again
  321. [17:14]
  322. and we again pay cost
  323. [17:14]
  324. do you understand my point
  325. [17:14]
  326. ?
  327.  
  328. ValkyrjaToday at 17:14
  329. I get your point. We can agree on this:
  330. [17:14]
  331. 1. You give back cores.
  332. 2. In case you want a core from Greenland, just pay for it.
  333. 3. In case Greenland loses the citizens, we give them back to Ireland.
  334.  
  335. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:15
  336. I'm in work and need to do a job should be back in 10 mins
  337.  
  338. ValkyrjaToday at 17:15
  339. This way, or I get them, or you get them.
  340. [17:15]
  341. Not lost.
  342. [17:15]
  343. Okay, see you later (edited)
  344.  
  345. Winston Hope SmithToday at 17:28
  346. sorry about that back now
  347. [17:29]
  348. What I will bring to my HQ is your suggestion....at time of reshuffle...
  349. [17:29]
  350. 1. You give back cores.
  351. 2. In case you want a core from Greenland, just pay for it.
  352. 3. In case Greenland loses the citizens, we give them back to Ireland.
  353. [17:29]
  354. Remember if agreed by my HQ it will still need to be agreed by alliance
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