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- Subtitles by explosiveskull
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- [wind whistling]
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- 00:01:15,825 --> 00:01:17,659
- [woman]
- I'll only be about an hour.
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- 00:01:24,266 --> 00:01:26,133
- It shifted about
- an eighth of an inch.
- 5
- 00:01:26,135 --> 00:01:27,634
- - Which?
- - One of the 12s.
- 6
- 00:01:27,636 --> 00:01:29,603
- Hm, it's not as bad
- as I thought, okay.
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- 00:01:29,605 --> 00:01:33,107
- Hey, Jim owes me $40.
- I need a pair of boots.
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- 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:36,279
- [man and woman speaking
- indistinctly in background]
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- 00:01:43,352 --> 00:01:46,819
- [door opens]
- 10
- 00:01:46,821 --> 00:01:48,323
- [door closes]
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- 00:02:27,897 --> 00:02:30,867
- [engine idling]
- 12
- 00:03:37,399 --> 00:03:39,469
- [dog barking in distance]
- 13
- 00:04:00,388 --> 00:04:03,692
- [train horn blares,
- signal bell clanging]
- 14
- 00:04:53,041 --> 00:04:54,476
- You okay?
- 15
- 00:04:56,344 --> 00:04:57,913
- I got this, yeah.
- 16
- 00:05:19,101 --> 00:05:22,772
- Just... [chuckles]
- you do it.
- 17
- 00:05:23,805 --> 00:05:25,407
- I'm useless.
- 18
- 00:05:30,846 --> 00:05:32,281
- [woman] Okay.
- 19
- 00:05:46,027 --> 00:05:47,963
- - [thump]
- - Fuck.
- 20
- 00:06:00,541 --> 00:06:04,546
- [man] She explicitly asked me
- not to be there today.
- 21
- 00:06:07,115 --> 00:06:09,149
- I'll see you Saturday.
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- 00:06:09,151 --> 00:06:12,385
- [woman]
- What's Saturday?
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- 00:06:12,387 --> 00:06:13,589
- The Swan Parade.
- 24
- 00:06:15,557 --> 00:06:18,592
- Have you gone through
- the house recently?
- 25
- 00:06:18,594 --> 00:06:20,827
- [man] Why?
- 26
- 00:06:20,829 --> 00:06:22,027
- Alcohol.
- 27
- 00:06:22,029 --> 00:06:25,431
- Your mother
- is not an alcoholic.
- 28
- 00:06:25,433 --> 00:06:27,433
- She made a mistake.
- She paid the price for it-
- 29
- 00:06:27,435 --> 00:06:29,969
- I was talking
- about her parole conditions.
- 30
- 00:06:29,971 --> 00:06:32,507
- But... thank you.
- 31
- 00:06:40,449 --> 00:06:42,849
- Have you spoken to her
- about selling the house?
- 32
- 00:06:42,851 --> 00:06:44,587
- [man] Of course I have.
- 33
- 00:06:47,923 --> 00:06:49,856
- [woman] Do you want me
- to not ask you
- 34
- 00:06:49,858 --> 00:06:51,123
- how that conversation went?
- 35
- 00:06:51,125 --> 00:06:52,993
- [man] If you'd be so kind.
- 36
- 00:06:52,995 --> 00:06:54,530
- Did Mark move?
- 37
- 00:06:59,601 --> 00:07:01,133
- [sighs]
- 38
- 00:07:01,135 --> 00:07:03,436
- Not as far as I know.
- 39
- 00:07:03,438 --> 00:07:05,073
- [woman] Hmm.
- 40
- 00:07:09,478 --> 00:07:13,546
- [buzzer buzzes]
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- 00:07:13,548 --> 00:07:16,418
- [gate rumbles]
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- 00:07:24,493 --> 00:07:26,560
- Hi, Mama.
- 43
- 00:07:26,562 --> 00:07:31,164
- - [buzzer buzzes, gate rumbles]
- - Hi.
- 44
- 00:07:31,166 --> 00:07:32,635
- [sighs]
- 45
- 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,620
- Yo, how's it going?
- 46
- 00:07:53,622 --> 00:07:56,522
- - Oh, fantastic.
- - Okay.
- 47
- 00:07:56,524 --> 00:07:57,626
- Uh...
- 48
- 00:08:00,529 --> 00:08:03,128
- [chuckles] You think about what
- you're gonna order for years,
- 49
- 00:08:03,130 --> 00:08:05,130
- and then, um, wow, you...
- 50
- 00:08:05,132 --> 00:08:07,534
- It just looks really different
- when you see the menu.
- 51
- 00:08:07,536 --> 00:08:10,506
- Yeah. Did you just
- come from Glassmore?
- 52
- 00:08:11,673 --> 00:08:14,508
- - Yeah.
- - Right on.
- 53
- 00:08:14,510 --> 00:08:17,077
- You must get
- a lot of people...
- 54
- 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:20,246
- Yeah.
- I mean... don't worry.
- 55
- 00:08:20,248 --> 00:08:23,183
- I won't... won't ask you
- what you did or anything.
- 56
- 00:08:23,185 --> 00:08:25,519
- I'll run you through
- the options, though.
- 57
- 00:08:25,521 --> 00:08:27,156
- We'll get you set up.
- We'll get you set up.
- 58
- 00:09:06,261 --> 00:09:08,627
- Well, all that's missing
- is a banner.
- 59
- 00:09:08,629 --> 00:09:10,499
- [chuckles]
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- 00:09:12,568 --> 00:09:15,605
- - Thirsty?
- - I'd kill for a glass of wine.
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- 00:09:16,738 --> 00:09:18,507
- It's pretty soon, Mom.
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- 00:09:19,608 --> 00:09:22,576
- [water running in sink]
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- 00:09:22,578 --> 00:09:25,345
- Hey, don't sit down.
- We're celebrating.
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- 00:09:25,347 --> 00:09:28,148
- [sighs deeply]
- 65
- 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:30,116
- I know you're
- probably gonna want
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- 00:09:30,118 --> 00:09:33,019
- to have a talk with me
- at some point.
- 67
- 00:09:33,021 --> 00:09:35,755
- I'm prepared for that.
- I want to as well.
- 68
- 00:09:35,757 --> 00:09:39,159
- Well, not tonight.
- We're celebrating.
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- 00:09:39,161 --> 00:09:40,693
- Does she know?
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- 00:09:40,695 --> 00:09:44,029
- We're a little bit
- light on glassware.
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- 00:09:44,031 --> 00:09:45,765
- [chuckles]
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- 00:09:45,767 --> 00:09:48,635
- Um...
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- 00:09:48,637 --> 00:09:50,337
- okay, um...
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- 00:09:50,339 --> 00:09:53,209
- good to have me back.
- [chuckles]
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- 00:09:58,714 --> 00:10:00,616
- Mmm. [chuckles]
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- 00:10:11,059 --> 00:10:12,759
- This can all just go
- in the trash.
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- 00:10:12,761 --> 00:10:15,061
- I don't even want to donate it.
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- 00:10:15,063 --> 00:10:17,163
- Why not donate?
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- 00:10:17,165 --> 00:10:19,064
- I just don't want to be
- walking down the street
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- 00:10:19,066 --> 00:10:20,232
- and see somebody
- else wearing that
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- 00:10:20,234 --> 00:10:23,403
- and hate it all over again.
- 82
- 00:10:23,405 --> 00:10:25,270
- Speaking of florals,
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- 00:10:25,272 --> 00:10:26,872
- Wendy called
- like three weeks ago.
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- 00:10:26,874 --> 00:10:28,710
- She wondered when you
- were getting out.
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- 00:10:30,711 --> 00:10:32,746
- What did she say, exactly?
- 86
- 00:10:32,748 --> 00:10:35,151
- Um, she wants to see you.
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- 00:10:36,718 --> 00:10:38,083
- Did you ask her,
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- 00:10:38,085 --> 00:10:39,752
- or did she bring it up
- unprompted?
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- 00:10:39,754 --> 00:10:43,255
- Um, she called and asked
- when you were getting released.
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- 00:10:43,257 --> 00:10:45,424
- So I told her, and then
- I asked her if she wanted
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- 00:10:45,426 --> 00:10:48,827
- to hang out with you,
- and she said yes.
- 92
- 00:10:48,829 --> 00:10:50,700
- So she didn't suggest it.
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- 00:10:58,105 --> 00:11:01,610
- Can you pass me that basket,
- El? Thank you.
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- 00:11:07,214 --> 00:11:09,683
- Well, what does it matter
- if she suggested it?
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- 00:11:09,685 --> 00:11:12,419
- I'm not gonna apologize
- for being curious.
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- 00:11:12,421 --> 00:11:14,688
- [woman] No one's asking you
- to apologize, Mom.
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- 00:11:14,690 --> 00:11:16,722
- [mother] Yeah, I would have to
- guess you're wrong about that.
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- 00:11:16,724 --> 00:11:18,290
- [woman] Well, I don't think
- that she would call
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- 00:11:18,292 --> 00:11:19,893
- if she didn't want
- to hang out with you.
- 100
- 00:11:19,895 --> 00:11:21,461
- You're assuming
- that I want to see her.
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- 00:11:21,463 --> 00:11:24,130
- Yeah, and why wouldn't I
- assume that?
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- 00:11:24,132 --> 00:11:25,698
- [mother]
- Is her husband still sick?
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- 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:28,735
- He died.
- Blood disease.
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- 00:11:28,737 --> 00:11:30,437
- [mother]
- Well, there you go.
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- 00:11:30,439 --> 00:11:33,372
- I don't want to be associated
- with that kind of sadness.
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- 00:11:33,374 --> 00:11:35,942
- [scoffs] Okay.
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- 00:11:35,944 --> 00:11:38,381
- Well, I'm not gonna
- force to have friends.
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- 00:11:45,353 --> 00:11:47,256
- Keep that.
- That's nice.
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- 00:12:08,175 --> 00:12:10,912
- [dog barks in distance]
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- 00:12:17,752 --> 00:12:20,388
- [trampoline squeaking gently]
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- 00:12:43,210 --> 00:12:45,013
- [knock on door]
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- 00:12:59,294 --> 00:13:00,763
- Yeah.
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- 00:13:04,266 --> 00:13:06,832
- Um, is now a good time?
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- 00:13:06,834 --> 00:13:08,233
- How do you mean?
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- 00:13:08,235 --> 00:13:10,803
- Sorry, uh, is now
- a good time to talk?
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- 00:13:10,805 --> 00:13:13,972
- I mean, I don't want to
- interrupt your, uh, family time,
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- 00:13:13,974 --> 00:13:16,943
- but, uh...
- it's kind of hard to wait.
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- 00:13:16,945 --> 00:13:20,313
- I'll understand if you want
- to give it more time, for sure.
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- 00:13:20,315 --> 00:13:22,450
- No. No, no.
- Sorry, come in.
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- 00:13:28,256 --> 00:13:30,423
- [mother] Um, can you take
- your boots off?
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- 00:13:30,425 --> 00:13:32,495
- - [man] Yeah, no problem.
- - [mother] Thanks.
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- 00:13:34,061 --> 00:13:37,864
- - Yep.
- - Come on in.
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- 00:13:37,866 --> 00:13:42,271
- Um... you're not gonna
- believe who's here.
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- 00:13:44,573 --> 00:13:46,442
- Hey, Zoe.
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- 00:13:51,546 --> 00:13:53,579
- - Eleanor.
- - Hi.
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- 00:13:53,581 --> 00:13:56,985
- - Is it okay if I sit here?
- - Oh, of course.
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- 00:13:59,487 --> 00:14:02,388
- As you can see, everything's
- pretty much the same.
- 128
- 00:14:02,390 --> 00:14:04,890
- It's kind of like
- a time capsule.
- 129
- 00:14:04,892 --> 00:14:07,894
- [chuckles]
- 130
- 00:14:07,896 --> 00:14:09,529
- Do you want
- to talk privately?
- 131
- 00:14:09,531 --> 00:14:10,929
- No, this is okay,
- 132
- 00:14:10,931 --> 00:14:13,600
- as long as you guys
- are okay with it.
- 133
- 00:14:13,602 --> 00:14:15,300
- - [Zoe] Sure.
- - [Eleanor] Yeah.
- 134
- 00:14:15,302 --> 00:14:16,371
- Cool.
- 135
- 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:19,572
- So you're still
- in the neighborhood.
- 136
- 00:14:19,574 --> 00:14:22,875
- - How's that?
- - Oh, you know, same.
- 137
- 00:14:22,877 --> 00:14:25,077
- - Kind of a time capsule.
- - [laughs]
- 138
- 00:14:25,079 --> 00:14:26,913
- Except for
- the new subdivision.
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- 00:14:26,915 --> 00:14:29,548
- - I don't know if you've seen that.
- - No.
- 140
- 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:31,417
- Anyway, what I wanted
- to say was...
- 141
- 00:14:31,419 --> 00:14:34,587
- I'm sorry, I hate to interrupt.
- But here we are, eating.
- 142
- 00:14:34,589 --> 00:14:36,325
- Just...
- 143
- 00:14:43,531 --> 00:14:46,632
- [Zoe] So did they legally have to
- tell you she was on the loose?
- 144
- 00:14:46,634 --> 00:14:49,468
- Oh, I don't know what
- their obligations were,
- 145
- 00:14:49,470 --> 00:14:52,071
- - but they did tell me.
- - Who told you?
- 146
- 00:14:52,073 --> 00:14:53,608
- Someone came by.
- 147
- 00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:58,544
- What have you been doing?
- 148
- 00:14:58,546 --> 00:14:59,982
- Not a lot.
- 149
- 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:06,151
- It's probably all a bit cold.
- 150
- 00:15:06,153 --> 00:15:08,087
- - Here.
- - Thank you.
- 151
- 00:15:08,089 --> 00:15:11,459
- Um, there's toast.
- [chuckles]
- 152
- 00:15:14,161 --> 00:15:17,163
- I didn't ask about your mother.
- How is she?
- 153
- 00:15:17,165 --> 00:15:20,500
- She, um...
- she's not with us anymore.
- 154
- 00:15:20,502 --> 00:15:21,967
- Oh.
- 155
- 00:15:21,969 --> 00:15:24,603
- I didn't get
- all the neighborhood
- 156
- 00:15:24,605 --> 00:15:26,505
- news updates, I guess.
- 157
- 00:15:26,507 --> 00:15:28,507
- What I was gonna say before
- is that you shouldn't feel,
- 158
- 00:15:28,509 --> 00:15:32,077
- um, obligated to move out
- of the neighborhood
- 159
- 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:34,013
- or anything like that.
- 160
- 00:15:34,015 --> 00:15:37,516
- Oh, I hadn't even thought
- about that.
- 161
- 00:15:37,518 --> 00:15:39,117
- I don't know
- if you remember this
- 162
- 00:15:39,119 --> 00:15:41,553
- but I tried to visit you
- in prison a couple of times,
- 163
- 00:15:41,555 --> 00:15:44,189
- and they told me that you
- weren't feeling well.
- 164
- 00:15:44,191 --> 00:15:46,558
- Yeah, well, I wasn't
- feeling well most days.
- 165
- 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,395
- But I'm really sorry
- I didn't get a chance
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- 00:15:49,397 --> 00:15:51,496
- - to apologize to you.
- - Oh.
- 167
- 00:15:51,498 --> 00:15:54,600
- I didn't know
- how to even go about it.
- 168
- 00:15:54,602 --> 00:15:56,669
- I mean, what do you say
- about a thing like that?
- 169
- 00:15:56,671 --> 00:15:59,005
- But, you know, you had
- every right to an apology,
- 170
- 00:15:59,007 --> 00:16:00,707
- for wanting that apology...
- 171
- 00:16:00,709 --> 00:16:03,141
- Actually, I didn't come here
- looking for an apology.
- 172
- 00:16:03,143 --> 00:16:06,412
- But thank you, though,
- for saying that I deserved one.
- 173
- 00:16:06,414 --> 00:16:08,614
- Um... I guess I was
- just hoping to hear
- 174
- 00:16:08,616 --> 00:16:10,549
- your account of what happened.
- 175
- 00:16:10,551 --> 00:16:13,151
- I read everything in the papers,
- and the lawyers talked to me,
- 176
- 00:16:13,153 --> 00:16:15,587
- but everything
- happened pretty fast.
- 177
- 00:16:15,589 --> 00:16:19,092
- And, uh, yeah, I would
- just love to hear from you,
- 178
- 00:16:19,094 --> 00:16:22,662
- in your words,
- in the interests of...
- 179
- 00:16:22,664 --> 00:16:25,030
- closure.
- 180
- 00:16:25,032 --> 00:16:27,500
- Oh, okay, I don't know
- what else I could tell you
- 181
- 00:16:27,502 --> 00:16:30,635
- that you didn't already read,
- but, um...
- 182
- 00:16:30,637 --> 00:16:34,439
- uh...
- I drank and drove.
- 183
- 00:16:34,441 --> 00:16:38,678
- I was driving too fast
- and not paying attention,
- 184
- 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,148
- and a German Shepherd
- bounded out into the street
- 185
- 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:45,617
- chasing God only knows what,
- and, um...
- 186
- 00:16:45,619 --> 00:16:47,587
- I made a big mistake.
- 187
- 00:16:47,589 --> 00:16:51,057
- I panicked and swerved,
- 188
- 00:16:51,059 --> 00:16:54,726
- and instead of hitting
- the dog, I hit...
- 189
- 00:16:54,728 --> 00:16:57,099
- something else,
- as you know.
- 190
- 00:17:01,536 --> 00:17:03,604
- Yeah, that's pretty much
- what I remember.
- 191
- 00:17:06,207 --> 00:17:07,508
- Okay.
- 192
- 00:17:10,478 --> 00:17:12,812
- The German shepherd,
- I guess that's why the...
- 193
- 00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:15,782
- the angle of impact
- was so extreme.
- 194
- 00:17:15,784 --> 00:17:17,486
- - Mm-hmm.
- - Yeah.
- 195
- 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,486
- [man] Was it the Axels'
- German shepherd?
- 196
- 00:17:21,488 --> 00:17:24,122
- - Sorry?
- - The Axels' German shepherd?
- 197
- 00:17:24,124 --> 00:17:25,557
- From the corner at Radcliffe.
- 198
- 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:28,527
- They have the garden gnomes
- on the lawn.
- 199
- 00:17:28,529 --> 00:17:30,196
- Oh, yes, yeah.
- 200
- 00:17:30,198 --> 00:17:32,501
- Yeah, that's the only big dog
- that I can remember.
- 201
- 00:17:43,545 --> 00:17:45,710
- Sorry, I'm not
- trying to be hostile.
- 202
- 00:17:45,712 --> 00:17:48,848
- No, I'm not either,
- and if it's any comfort to you,
- 203
- 00:17:48,850 --> 00:17:52,118
- I'm... I'm pretty sure
- that old dog
- 204
- 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:55,188
- would be a pile of dust now
- in some landfill
- 205
- 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:58,623
- or maybe in their backyard.
- 206
- 00:17:58,625 --> 00:18:01,296
- - The Axels?
- - Yeah, in the Axels' backyard.
- 207
- 00:18:06,734 --> 00:18:08,537
- [chuckles softly]
- 208
- 00:18:11,538 --> 00:18:16,274
- [sighs] I should go.
- I should've given you more time.
- 209
- 00:18:16,276 --> 00:18:18,844
- No, you've waited long enough.
- That's fine.
- 210
- 00:18:18,846 --> 00:18:20,612
- And thanks for breakfast.
- 211
- 00:18:20,614 --> 00:18:22,617
- Thank you for forgiving me.
- 212
- 00:18:26,286 --> 00:18:27,753
- I'll see you guys later.
- 213
- 00:18:27,755 --> 00:18:30,059
- Bye, Mark.
- 214
- 00:18:41,201 --> 00:18:42,671
- - See you around.
- - I hope so.
- 215
- 00:18:56,718 --> 00:18:59,584
- How did Mark's mother die?
- 216
- 00:18:59,586 --> 00:19:01,123
- She killed herself.
- 217
- 00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:06,659
- Maybe you could make a list
- of all the other people
- 218
- 00:19:06,661 --> 00:19:09,161
- who died while I was away.
- 219
- 00:19:09,163 --> 00:19:10,865
- That would be helpful.
- 220
- 00:19:14,736 --> 00:19:17,206
- [water running in sink]
- 221
- 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:48,202
- [birds chirping,
- children shouting in distance]
- 222
- 00:20:04,952 --> 00:20:07,155
- [shower running]
- 223
- 00:20:40,955 --> 00:20:45,824
- ...is about that tall,
- you know?
- 224
- 00:20:45,826 --> 00:20:49,361
- No matter how many times
- I pass by your house,
- 225
- 00:20:49,363 --> 00:20:51,330
- I see you outside there.
- 226
- 00:20:51,332 --> 00:20:52,931
- [laughter]
- 227
- 00:20:52,933 --> 00:20:53,999
- You grew.
- 228
- 00:20:54,001 --> 00:20:56,835
- [chuckles] Guilty.
- 229
- 00:20:56,837 --> 00:20:59,272
- "Guilty."
- That's good.
- 230
- 00:20:59,274 --> 00:21:00,505
- Guilty as charged.
- 231
- 00:21:00,507 --> 00:21:01,907
- - [laughs]
- - Yeah.
- 232
- 00:21:01,909 --> 00:21:04,744
- So what can we
- help you with today?
- 233
- 00:21:04,746 --> 00:21:07,912
- Oh, uh, well,
- I was just wondering, um...
- 234
- 00:21:07,914 --> 00:21:10,448
- you... you used to have
- a German shepherd.
- 235
- 00:21:10,450 --> 00:21:11,950
- Jackson.
- 236
- 00:21:11,952 --> 00:21:15,723
- Jackson, that's right.
- When did he die?
- 237
- 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:19,927
- Why?
- 238
- 00:21:22,830 --> 00:21:25,765
- Okay, well, uh... not sure
- if you're aware of this,
- 239
- 00:21:25,767 --> 00:21:29,401
- but Valerie Walker claimed
- that a German shepherd
- 240
- 00:21:29,403 --> 00:21:34,073
- ran in front of her vehicle
- right before she hit my Dad.
- 241
- 00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:37,043
- I was not aware, no.
- 242
- 00:21:37,045 --> 00:21:41,913
- Do you... you think Jackson
- might have been that dog?
- 243
- 00:21:41,915 --> 00:21:43,884
- That's why I'm here.
- 244
- 00:21:47,388 --> 00:21:48,890
- Hmm, well...
- 245
- 00:21:50,757 --> 00:21:53,325
- What year
- was the accident?
- 246
- 00:21:53,327 --> 00:21:55,928
- - It was 2007.
- - 2007.
- 247
- 00:21:55,930 --> 00:21:57,365
- Hmm.
- 248
- 00:21:58,565 --> 00:21:59,968
- [woman] Hmm.
- 249
- 00:22:01,869 --> 00:22:05,338
- Hmm. [clears throat]
- 250
- 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:10,911
- Well, let's see,
- we got him in ninety... um...
- 251
- 00:22:12,779 --> 00:22:14,045
- When did we get him?
- 252
- 00:22:14,047 --> 00:22:16,550
- [classical music playing
- in headphones]
- 253
- 00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:04,099
- [door closes]
- 254
- 00:23:19,013 --> 00:23:20,946
- Oh, hi. Valerie.
- 255
- 00:23:20,948 --> 00:23:22,480
- [Valerie] Jonah?
- 256
- 00:23:22,482 --> 00:23:25,886
- Yes.
- Nice to meet you in person.
- 257
- 00:23:32,427 --> 00:23:36,898
- Would you happen to have a spade
- or a small shovel?
- 258
- 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,046
- [Jonah] Springtime.
- 259
- 00:23:55,048 --> 00:23:58,149
- They tend to run head-first
- into their own reflections
- 260
- 00:23:58,151 --> 00:24:00,619
- thinking they're being
- protective.
- 261
- 00:24:00,621 --> 00:24:02,090
- Snap their necks.
- 262
- 00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:06,091
- Something about their color
- makes them prone.
- 263
- 00:24:06,093 --> 00:24:08,028
- I... I don't know.
- 264
- 00:24:15,969 --> 00:24:18,236
- I understand that there's
- no confidentiality
- 265
- 00:24:18,238 --> 00:24:22,541
- between myself
- and Jonah here.
- 266
- 00:24:22,543 --> 00:24:24,476
- And do you understand why?
- 267
- 00:24:24,478 --> 00:24:26,046
- Oh, and I understand why.
- 268
- 00:24:28,114 --> 00:24:29,515
- Thank you.
- 269
- 00:24:29,517 --> 00:24:31,050
- Uh, so we're clear,
- 270
- 00:24:31,052 --> 00:24:33,552
- you said that there's
- no confidentiality
- 271
- 00:24:33,554 --> 00:24:34,986
- - between us and...
- - Is that wrong?
- 272
- 00:24:34,988 --> 00:24:37,555
- No, not wrong,
- not incorrect
- 273
- 00:24:37,557 --> 00:24:39,925
- in the sense
- that I have to report
- 274
- 00:24:39,927 --> 00:24:41,960
- anything incriminating
- you might say
- 275
- 00:24:41,962 --> 00:24:45,197
- but incorrect in that there's
- a great deal of confidentiality,
- 276
- 00:24:45,199 --> 00:24:48,601
- and you can trust that anything
- we talk about is private
- 277
- 00:24:48,603 --> 00:24:50,535
- unless there are
- extreme circumstances
- 278
- 00:24:50,537 --> 00:24:52,537
- where the law
- needs to get involved.
- 279
- 00:24:52,539 --> 00:24:54,073
- Should I just record
- that again?
- 280
- 00:24:54,075 --> 00:24:56,076
- Oh, no need.
- 281
- 00:25:01,681 --> 00:25:03,082
- I drank green tea for years.
- 282
- 00:25:03,084 --> 00:25:06,084
- Never knew about
- the antioxidants. [chuckles]
- 283
- 00:25:06,086 --> 00:25:08,521
- Thank you so much
- for making a house call.
- 284
- 00:25:08,523 --> 00:25:10,959
- A perk of you
- not having a license.
- 285
- 00:25:12,959 --> 00:25:16,227
- Is this, uh...
- are you new to the field?
- 286
- 00:25:16,229 --> 00:25:18,229
- No.
- 287
- 00:25:18,231 --> 00:25:19,698
- Oh.
- 288
- 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:21,699
- Never been asked that before.
- 289
- 00:25:21,701 --> 00:25:24,104
- I just have no
- frame of reference.
- 290
- 00:25:26,207 --> 00:25:28,172
- Uh, so, um... you know,
- 291
- 00:25:28,174 --> 00:25:30,642
- I have a fair number of
- questions that I have to ask you
- 292
- 00:25:30,644 --> 00:25:33,078
- and others
- that I'd like to ask you.
- 293
- 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,750
- But is there anything
- you'd like to ask me?
- 294
- 00:25:39,085 --> 00:25:42,220
- I'm sorry, I don't have
- any more questions.
- 295
- 00:25:42,222 --> 00:25:46,024
- Okay. So, first off,
- 296
- 00:25:46,026 --> 00:25:47,993
- is there any chance
- of you returning to work
- 297
- 00:25:47,995 --> 00:25:49,562
- at the plant in any capacity?
- 298
- 00:25:49,564 --> 00:25:51,229
- I would assume no.
- 299
- 00:25:51,231 --> 00:25:53,000
- Do you like working in sales?
- 300
- 00:26:03,577 --> 00:26:05,143
- [Zoe]
- Is that stuff good?
- 301
- 00:26:05,145 --> 00:26:08,613
- This? It's the best.
- 302
- 00:26:08,615 --> 00:26:11,115
- Mmm. I've heard that.
- 303
- 00:26:11,117 --> 00:26:12,186
- Yeah?
- 304
- 00:26:13,754 --> 00:26:16,589
- So you have a lawn then?
- 305
- 00:26:16,591 --> 00:26:18,193
- No, I don't have a lawn.
- 306
- 00:26:24,198 --> 00:26:26,265
- I like your plaque.
- 307
- 00:26:26,267 --> 00:26:28,199
- Thanks.
- 308
- 00:26:28,201 --> 00:26:32,204
- I can put you in touch
- with my guy if you want.
- 309
- 00:26:32,206 --> 00:26:34,640
- You want to walk?
- 310
- 00:26:34,642 --> 00:26:36,177
- I'm gonna walk.
- 311
- 00:26:49,323 --> 00:26:50,755
- [Mark] Where to?
- 312
- 00:26:50,757 --> 00:26:53,627
- [Zoe] Mm...
- [speaks indistinctly]
- 313
- 00:26:56,663 --> 00:26:58,697
- [Jonah]
- You're still married?
- 314
- 00:26:58,699 --> 00:27:00,765
- Uh, well, yes, technically.
- 315
- 00:27:00,767 --> 00:27:03,701
- Technically, yeah.
- 316
- 00:27:03,703 --> 00:27:05,704
- But you're, um...
- 317
- 00:27:05,706 --> 00:27:08,273
- you'll be staying here
- in this house alone?
- 318
- 00:27:08,275 --> 00:27:09,874
- For now.
- 319
- 00:27:09,876 --> 00:27:11,409
- You're comfortable
- living alone, I assume?
- 320
- 00:27:11,411 --> 00:27:13,812
- Yes, yes. Mm-hmm.
- 321
- 00:27:13,814 --> 00:27:17,682
- Um, living alone,
- are there any concerns
- 322
- 00:27:17,684 --> 00:27:20,084
- that come to mind with that?
- 323
- 00:27:20,086 --> 00:27:21,756
- Carbon monoxide.
- 324
- 00:27:23,257 --> 00:27:26,227
- [chuckles softly] Huh.
- 325
- 00:27:28,828 --> 00:27:30,862
- Seriously,
- what do you feel
- 326
- 00:27:30,864 --> 00:27:35,234
- is the number-one threat
- to your freedom?
- 327
- 00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:38,607
- Well, I guess I would
- have to say you, wouldn't I?
- 328
- 00:27:40,106 --> 00:27:44,776
- Not the answer
- I was thinking of, but, uh...
- 329
- 00:27:44,778 --> 00:27:47,615
- yes, theoretically.
- 330
- 00:27:49,115 --> 00:27:52,119
- But what would make me
- a threat to you freedom?
- 331
- 00:27:55,789 --> 00:27:57,790
- What about alcohol?
- 332
- 00:27:57,792 --> 00:28:01,826
- Oh, that's not a threat.
- Alcohol won't be an issue.
- 333
- 00:28:01,828 --> 00:28:05,264
- So, that feels like a mistake
- to me, I have to say.
- 334
- 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:07,399
- Consider that the only time
- your freedom
- 335
- 00:28:07,401 --> 00:28:09,701
- has been taken from you
- was because of drinking.
- 336
- 00:28:09,703 --> 00:28:13,471
- That works out to 100%.
- 337
- 00:28:13,473 --> 00:28:15,407
- I'm gonna speak candidly
- because I think
- 338
- 00:28:15,409 --> 00:28:17,141
- it's just going to save us
- a lot of time.
- 339
- 00:28:17,143 --> 00:28:19,277
- Great.
- 340
- 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,913
- I exaggerated my drinking
- during the trial.
- 341
- 00:28:21,915 --> 00:28:26,150
- I know I drank too much
- that night.
- 342
- 00:28:26,152 --> 00:28:28,219
- But I thought the judge
- and jury wouldn't be happy
- 343
- 00:28:28,221 --> 00:28:31,156
- if I didn't say
- I had a problem.
- 344
- 00:28:31,158 --> 00:28:36,231
- So I just went along with
- any language about alcoholism.
- 345
- 00:28:42,737 --> 00:28:44,439
- Okay, um...
- 346
- 00:28:46,239 --> 00:28:48,207
- Thank you for your honesty.
- 347
- 00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:51,843
- Still, you know,
- I have a number of clients
- 348
- 00:28:51,845 --> 00:28:55,514
- who would drink
- all the time if they could.
- 349
- 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:57,783
- You'd consider that
- to be an issue
- 350
- 00:28:57,785 --> 00:28:59,985
- with alcohol,
- wouldn't you?
- 351
- 00:28:59,987 --> 00:29:03,455
- Well, most of them
- haven't taken a life.
- 352
- 00:29:03,457 --> 00:29:07,191
- So, um, you might understand
- how I would see
- 353
- 00:29:07,193 --> 00:29:08,927
- your relationship
- with alcohol as a problem.
- 354
- 00:29:08,929 --> 00:29:12,363
- No, I understand.
- I just wanted to make it clear.
- 355
- 00:29:12,365 --> 00:29:14,466
- I don't respond well
- to alcohol,
- 356
- 00:29:14,468 --> 00:29:20,272
- which I, you know,
- triumphantly proved.
- 357
- 00:29:20,274 --> 00:29:23,342
- So...
- I won't be drinking again.
- 358
- 00:29:23,344 --> 00:29:25,009
- Okay.
- 359
- 00:29:25,011 --> 00:29:27,979
- Well, you know, as long
- as you meet your conditions
- 360
- 00:29:27,981 --> 00:29:32,417
- and attend your scheduled
- meetings, uh, which start...
- 361
- 00:29:32,419 --> 00:29:33,854
- Tomorrow.
- 362
- 00:29:35,523 --> 00:29:38,422
- Yep, uh,
- as long as you do that,
- 363
- 00:29:38,424 --> 00:29:41,360
- then we don't have to talk about
- this any further right now.
- 364
- 00:29:41,362 --> 00:29:43,031
- Okay. Mm-hmm.
- 365
- 00:29:53,407 --> 00:29:55,506
- [Mark] They've been
- developing this for, like,
- 366
- 00:29:55,508 --> 00:29:57,245
- three or four years.
- 367
- 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,516
- I think it's changed hands
- a few times.
- 368
- 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:10,522
- They're gonna dig
- all of this up over here.
- 369
- 00:30:10,524 --> 00:30:12,994
- A lot of garbage under here,
- I think.
- 370
- 00:30:19,834 --> 00:30:21,300
- I guess when this is all done,
- 371
- 00:30:21,302 --> 00:30:23,936
- the property values
- on your house will go up.
- 372
- 00:30:23,938 --> 00:30:26,537
- Do you wish we'd sell?
- 373
- 00:30:26,539 --> 00:30:28,940
- No, did it come across
- that way?
- 374
- 00:30:28,942 --> 00:30:30,876
- A bit.
- 375
- 00:30:30,878 --> 00:30:32,476
- Well, if that
- really mattered to me,
- 376
- 00:30:32,478 --> 00:30:34,412
- I could just sell my own home.
- 377
- 00:30:34,414 --> 00:30:36,415
- Well, I'm not sure
- that's the same thing,
- 378
- 00:30:36,417 --> 00:30:39,554
- but whatever you say.
- 379
- 00:30:43,324 --> 00:30:45,893
- I suppose I kind of embarrassed
- myself this morning.
- 380
- 00:30:53,566 --> 00:30:55,335
- Can I say something sad?
- 381
- 00:30:57,103 --> 00:30:59,438
- Might as well.
- 382
- 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,105
- [sighs]
- 383
- 00:31:01,107 --> 00:31:03,344
- Did you have help
- with your mom?
- 384
- 00:31:07,046 --> 00:31:10,050
- You know, she was pretty good
- about hiding it.
- 385
- 00:31:13,053 --> 00:31:15,957
- I didn't really understand
- what was going on, to be honest.
- 386
- 00:31:22,962 --> 00:31:25,397
- Fuck.
- 387
- 00:31:25,399 --> 00:31:28,332
- Yeah.
- 388
- 00:31:28,334 --> 00:31:30,369
- Anybody notice
- with your mom?
- 389
- 00:31:30,371 --> 00:31:32,004
- What do you mean?
- 390
- 00:31:32,006 --> 00:31:33,438
- With her drinking?
- 391
- 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,474
- Oh. No.
- 392
- 00:31:35,476 --> 00:31:37,378
- It was only that one time.
- 393
- 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,616
- Fuckin' 30 feet from home.
- 394
- 00:31:45,619 --> 00:31:49,353
- Then came the German shepherd.
- 395
- 00:31:49,355 --> 00:31:51,358
- Then came the German shepherd.
- 396
- 00:31:53,393 --> 00:31:54,495
- Yeah.
- 397
- 00:31:56,063 --> 00:31:58,999
- But not trying to make you
- feel sorry for her.
- 398
- 00:32:03,437 --> 00:32:04,969
- How is she?
- 399
- 00:32:04,971 --> 00:32:06,638
- My mom?
- 400
- 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,609
- Uh...
- not good with apologies.
- 401
- 00:32:10,611 --> 00:32:12,544
- It's okay to talk about it,
- honestly.
- 402
- 00:32:12,546 --> 00:32:14,146
- What happened to my family
- is way worse
- 403
- 00:32:14,148 --> 00:32:17,515
- than what happened
- to your family.
- 404
- 00:32:17,517 --> 00:32:20,584
- So it's not like you'll be
- making me feel bad or something.
- 405
- 00:32:20,586 --> 00:32:25,524
- Okay. Um...
- well, she's not doing good.
- 406
- 00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:29,460
- Um...
- her friend Wendy's calling,
- 407
- 00:32:29,462 --> 00:32:31,095
- and she thinks that, like,
- 408
- 00:32:31,097 --> 00:32:34,065
- she doesn't deserve
- to have friends.
- 409
- 00:32:34,067 --> 00:32:35,534
- I'm sure I didn't
- help with that.
- 410
- 00:32:35,536 --> 00:32:37,069
- No, oh, my God,
- it's not your fault.
- 411
- 00:32:37,071 --> 00:32:39,040
- She should have
- fucking apologized.
- 412
- 00:32:40,407 --> 00:32:42,040
- So Wendy from the plant?
- 413
- 00:32:42,042 --> 00:32:44,743
- Yeah.
- 414
- 00:32:44,745 --> 00:32:46,210
- I always liked Wendy.
- 415
- 00:32:46,212 --> 00:32:48,115
- Yeah, me too.
- 416
- 00:33:21,148 --> 00:33:24,084
- [machinery clanking
- and squealing]
- 417
- 00:33:35,129 --> 00:33:37,728
- [man]
- Is your mother asleep?
- 418
- 00:33:37,730 --> 00:33:40,200
- Uh, I think so, yeah.
- 419
- 00:33:41,768 --> 00:33:43,537
- Almond milk?
- 420
- 00:33:49,075 --> 00:33:52,544
- Did she say that it was okay
- for you to stay over tonight?
- 421
- 00:33:52,546 --> 00:33:55,647
- [man] What difference does
- it make if I'm here tonight
- 422
- 00:33:55,649 --> 00:33:56,751
- or tomorrow morning?
- 423
- 00:33:59,585 --> 00:34:01,620
- You know, me keeping you updated
- about what's happening here
- 424
- 00:34:01,622 --> 00:34:05,056
- is not a cry for help, right,
- you know that?
- 425
- 00:34:05,058 --> 00:34:07,258
- Yeah,
- yeah, I just thought
- 426
- 00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:09,795
- it would be better
- if I was here.
- 427
- 00:34:09,797 --> 00:34:12,266
- [clears throat]
- Who let him in?
- 428
- 00:34:13,232 --> 00:34:15,766
- [Eleanor] Mom did.
- 429
- 00:34:15,768 --> 00:34:17,736
- And... and you think he's...
- 430
- 00:34:17,738 --> 00:34:20,308
- I don't think that he thinks
- it was an accident.
- 431
- 00:34:22,109 --> 00:34:24,112
- Unfortunately.
- 432
- 00:34:26,647 --> 00:34:28,779
- Have you talked to her?
- 433
- 00:34:28,781 --> 00:34:30,515
- [Eleanor] No.
- 434
- 00:34:30,517 --> 00:34:32,750
- She said that she wants to,
- but I don't know
- 435
- 00:34:32,752 --> 00:34:35,319
- what she expects me to say
- 436
- 00:34:35,321 --> 00:34:38,291
- "Hey, Mom,
- you made it worse for me"?
- 437
- 00:34:40,627 --> 00:34:42,861
- What she's done
- shouldn't be on your conscience,
- 438
- 00:34:42,863 --> 00:34:44,261
- not... not for a second.
- 439
- 00:34:44,263 --> 00:34:46,797
- [scoffs] Okay.
- 440
- 00:34:46,799 --> 00:34:48,699
- That's a relief.
- 441
- 00:34:48,701 --> 00:34:53,337
- Well... if she had
- telephoned the police,
- 442
- 00:34:53,339 --> 00:34:56,743
- Mr. Loekner would be getting
- out of prison now.
- 443
- 00:35:04,817 --> 00:35:07,754
- She's never even admitted to me
- that she killed him on purpose.
- 444
- 00:35:14,127 --> 00:35:16,296
- [sighs]
- 445
- 00:35:23,303 --> 00:35:25,772
- Sometimes I do feel happy
- that he's dead.
- 446
- 00:35:28,709 --> 00:35:30,174
- But there are other times
- 447
- 00:35:30,176 --> 00:35:32,180
- when I would just
- like to talk about it.
- 448
- 00:35:35,681 --> 00:35:37,315
- I'd just like
- to have that option.
- 449
- 00:35:37,317 --> 00:35:39,187
- I don't know,
- I've read it's...
- 450
- 00:35:40,721 --> 00:35:42,290
- valuable.
- 451
- 00:35:45,259 --> 00:35:47,361
- You can talk to me about it.
- 452
- 00:35:51,797 --> 00:35:54,602
- Do you actually want to listen
- to me talk about it?
- 453
- 00:36:01,774 --> 00:36:04,311
- [footsteps approach]
- 454
- 00:36:05,678 --> 00:36:08,348
- - Am I interrupting?
- - [clears throat]
- 455
- 00:36:12,386 --> 00:36:15,719
- I had it in my head that
- we agreed you'd come tomorrow.
- 456
- 00:36:15,721 --> 00:36:19,357
- Yeah, yeah.
- We had agreed on that, yeah.
- 457
- 00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:22,627
- Um... I don't have to sleep
- here if it bothers you.
- 458
- 00:36:22,629 --> 00:36:24,431
- [Zoe] No, I don't want
- to trouble you.
- 459
- 00:36:26,265 --> 00:36:28,766
- What time is the Internet
- guy coming tomorrow?
- 460
- 00:36:28,768 --> 00:36:32,670
- Um,
- between 10:00 and 12:30.
- 461
- 00:36:32,672 --> 00:36:34,241
- Okay.
- 462
- 00:36:52,259 --> 00:36:54,395
- [garage door rattling]
- 463
- 00:38:11,370 --> 00:38:12,973
- Hi.
- 464
- 00:38:18,911 --> 00:38:21,011
- It's a... a frittata.
- 465
- 00:38:21,013 --> 00:38:22,513
- I figured you'd be hungry
- 466
- 00:38:22,515 --> 00:38:24,516
- after all the work
- you've been doing.
- 467
- 00:38:24,518 --> 00:38:27,018
- I didn't get a chance
- to bake it,
- 468
- 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:31,056
- so it needs about 25 minutes
- at 350, and it should be fine.
- 469
- 00:38:31,058 --> 00:38:33,357
- I was going to bake it,
- but I didn't want
- 470
- 00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,363
- to miss my chance
- to give it to you.
- 471
- 00:38:37,431 --> 00:38:39,333
- That's very nice,
- thank you.
- 472
- 00:38:42,935 --> 00:38:48,038
- I, um... I thought it was
- uncomfortable at breakfast.
- 473
- 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,841
- - Yeah.
- - Yeah, I gotta say,
- 474
- 00:38:49,843 --> 00:38:53,777
- I just don't understand
- your fascination with the dog.
- 475
- 00:38:53,779 --> 00:38:55,045
- That's okay.
- 476
- 00:38:55,047 --> 00:38:58,482
- You know,
- if it was to embarrass me, I...
- 477
- 00:38:58,484 --> 00:39:00,387
- I'm not trying
- to embarrass you.
- 478
- 00:39:02,922 --> 00:39:04,491
- Well, what then?
- 479
- 00:39:08,527 --> 00:39:10,862
- You know...
- 480
- 00:39:10,864 --> 00:39:15,533
- my mom was on a lot
- of medication before she died.
- 481
- 00:39:15,535 --> 00:39:20,074
- But she told me that she thought
- she understood what you did.
- 482
- 00:39:21,841 --> 00:39:23,808
- What do you think that means?
- 483
- 00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:26,846
- I think it means she was on
- a lot of medication.
- 484
- 00:39:31,484 --> 00:39:32,553
- Maybe.
- 485
- 00:39:39,826 --> 00:39:42,530
- Okay, great chatting
- with you as always.
- 486
- 00:39:47,033 --> 00:39:48,933
- I'm pretty sure
- it's gonna snow.
- 487
- 00:39:48,935 --> 00:39:52,840
- So it might be a good excuse
- for you to go inside now.
- 488
- 00:41:06,011 --> 00:41:07,946
- [man]
- What are you measuring?
- 489
- 00:41:07,948 --> 00:41:11,482
- Uh, it's to optimize
- your installation.
- 490
- 00:41:11,484 --> 00:41:13,551
- [man] Yeah, but how?
- 491
- 00:41:13,553 --> 00:41:14,953
- [worker]
- So I can put the router here.
- 492
- 00:41:14,955 --> 00:41:17,522
- [man] What if we want it
- in the kitchen?
- 493
- 00:41:17,524 --> 00:41:19,123
- [worker]
- Sure, yeah, cool.
- 494
- 00:41:19,125 --> 00:41:22,092
- Could've just told me where you
- wanted it off the top,
- 495
- 00:41:22,094 --> 00:41:23,596
- but it's all good.
- 496
- 00:41:25,498 --> 00:41:27,535
- How was your night
- last night, Zoe?
- 497
- 00:41:29,669 --> 00:41:33,071
- Uh, okay so just right here
- by the, uh, phone?
- 498
- 00:41:33,073 --> 00:41:36,074
- - [man] It's fine, Greg-
- - Yes, thank you.
- 499
- 00:41:36,076 --> 00:41:37,674
- My night was fine.
- 500
- 00:41:37,676 --> 00:41:39,946
- Good.
- What'd you two talk about?
- 501
- 00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:48,589
- Is there a problem?
- 502
- 00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:54,093
- Have you guys talked
- about this already?
- 503
- 00:41:56,161 --> 00:41:57,962
- [Eleanor] She has to live
- across the street from him.
- 504
- 00:41:57,964 --> 00:41:59,531
- [Zoe] I know, but I don't
- really understand
- 505
- 00:41:59,533 --> 00:42:03,600
- why you guys don't
- feel bad for him.
- 506
- 00:42:03,602 --> 00:42:05,036
- If there's nothing
- to talk about,
- 507
- 00:42:05,038 --> 00:42:06,670
- there's no need
- to get defensive.
- 508
- 00:42:06,672 --> 00:42:08,640
- There is, though,
- 'cause all of a sudden,
- 509
- 00:42:08,642 --> 00:42:11,775
- I feel like
- I'm betraying my family.
- 510
- 00:42:11,777 --> 00:42:14,078
- What are you worried about?
- I don't understand.
- 511
- 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,080
- I'm only worried
- if there's reason to worry.
- 512
- 00:42:16,082 --> 00:42:18,719
- But if you're telling us not,
- that's the end of it.
- 513
- 00:42:32,299 --> 00:42:35,169
- So, going to the parade still?
- 514
- 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:38,138
- Yep.
- 515
- 00:42:45,011 --> 00:42:47,515
- [bright music playing]
- 516
- 00:43:15,308 --> 00:43:18,112
- [woman singing operatically
- in foreign language]
- 517
- 00:44:36,922 --> 00:44:39,727
- [singing continues softly
- on stereo]
- 518
- 00:44:52,772 --> 00:44:55,174
- [gas hissing softly]
- 519
- 00:45:10,756 --> 00:45:12,158
- Can I get you anything, Mom?
- 520
- 00:45:15,194 --> 00:45:17,495
- - Want some coffee?
- - No, I'm fine.
- 521
- 00:45:17,497 --> 00:45:18,795
- Can I take your coat?
- 522
- 00:45:18,797 --> 00:45:20,498
- No.
- 523
- 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:21,935
- Okay.
- 524
- 00:45:44,424 --> 00:45:48,426
- Uh, that was Eleanor
- who dropped you off?
- 525
- 00:45:48,428 --> 00:45:49,493
- Yes.
- 526
- 00:45:49,495 --> 00:45:51,995
- - How's she doing?
- - She's well.
- 527
- 00:45:51,997 --> 00:45:54,200
- - Oh, good.
- - Mm-hmm.
- 528
- 00:45:57,504 --> 00:46:00,471
- I guess I should come out
- with it and...
- 529
- 00:46:00,473 --> 00:46:05,342
- and tell you I'm sorry
- I didn't visit you in there.
- 530
- 00:46:05,344 --> 00:46:06,777
- No need.
- 531
- 00:46:06,779 --> 00:46:08,980
- Okay.
- 532
- 00:46:08,982 --> 00:46:11,848
- So you, uh...
- you have a grandson.
- 533
- 00:46:11,850 --> 00:46:15,553
- I saw the picture.
- I didn't know.
- 534
- 00:46:15,555 --> 00:46:16,953
- - Yeah.
- - Ah.
- 535
- 00:46:16,955 --> 00:46:19,556
- Dylan.
- Dill, I call him.
- 536
- 00:46:19,558 --> 00:46:21,558
- Ah.
- 537
- 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,828
- Dill.
- 538
- 00:46:23,830 --> 00:46:25,495
- So that's Kathleen's kid?
- 539
- 00:46:25,497 --> 00:46:26,964
- Mm-hmm.
- 540
- 00:46:26,966 --> 00:46:30,467
- Well, I'd like to
- meet him some time.
- 541
- 00:46:30,469 --> 00:46:31,805
- Mmm.
- 542
- 00:46:37,810 --> 00:46:40,877
- So you're doing crafts.
- You work in a craft, like...
- 543
- 00:46:40,879 --> 00:46:42,245
- Craft store.
- 544
- 00:46:42,247 --> 00:46:44,915
- - Oh, do you like working there?
- - I do, yeah.
- 545
- 00:46:44,917 --> 00:46:48,386
- And you never thought about
- going back to bookkeeping then?
- 546
- 00:46:48,388 --> 00:46:50,257
- No. No.
- 547
- 00:46:56,995 --> 00:46:58,998
- When did you quit
- at the plant?
- 548
- 00:47:01,267 --> 00:47:04,402
- Uh, not long after.
- 549
- 00:47:04,404 --> 00:47:05,603
- A few weeks.
- 550
- 00:47:05,605 --> 00:47:08,438
- That was fast.
- 551
- 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,509
- Yeah.
- 552
- 00:47:14,346 --> 00:47:19,016
- Did anybody ever ask any
- questions, like why you quit?
- 553
- 00:47:19,018 --> 00:47:24,388
- Well... in the normal
- process of leaving, sure.
- 554
- 00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:28,960
- I just said
- "personal reasons."
- 555
- 00:47:28,962 --> 00:47:31,064
- I didn't mean in the company.
- 556
- 00:47:43,542 --> 00:47:45,542
- Uh, Wendy,
- you don't have to do that.
- 557
- 00:47:45,544 --> 00:47:48,047
- No, it's okay.
- Mom doesn't mind.
- 558
- 00:48:19,478 --> 00:48:23,080
- What do you mean,
- you didn't mean the company?
- 559
- 00:48:23,082 --> 00:48:28,585
- The police?
- I didn't talk to the police.
- 560
- 00:48:28,587 --> 00:48:31,091
- What about Mark Loekner?
- 561
- 00:48:34,593 --> 00:48:38,364
- No, I have not spoken
- to Mark Loekner.
- 562
- 00:48:50,977 --> 00:48:52,145
- I guess...
- 563
- 00:48:54,614 --> 00:49:00,016
- I can only guess at
- what you saw that day
- 564
- 00:49:00,018 --> 00:49:02,987
- when you walked
- into that room
- 565
- 00:49:02,989 --> 00:49:07,060
- and the kind of hatred
- that would cause.
- 566
- 00:49:08,527 --> 00:49:14,000
- But I'd rather be 99% sure
- than the full 100.
- 567
- 00:49:15,033 --> 00:49:17,036
- I'm not a good enough liar.
- 568
- 00:49:20,739 --> 00:49:22,408
- Okay.
- 569
- 00:49:28,714 --> 00:49:30,616
- - I...
- - [knock on door]
- 570
- 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:36,152
- Hello, nice to meet you.
- 571
- 00:49:36,154 --> 00:49:39,656
- Oh, you, too.
- That was very polite.
- 572
- 00:49:39,658 --> 00:49:40,690
- [boy] Thank you.
- 573
- 00:49:40,692 --> 00:49:42,426
- Grandma, I know you said
- 574
- 00:49:42,428 --> 00:49:44,594
- I wasn't supposed
- to come downstairs,
- 575
- 00:49:44,596 --> 00:49:47,998
- but I can't get the tap
- to shut off.
- 576
- 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,201
- Okay, I'll be up in a sec.
- 577
- 00:49:50,203 --> 00:49:52,105
- - Bye.
- - Bye.
- 578
- 00:49:59,578 --> 00:50:00,680
- Now I met him.
- 579
- 00:50:09,455 --> 00:50:11,591
- Let's try this again
- on another day.
- 580
- 00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:16,694
- I think you should
- give Eleanor a call
- 581
- 00:50:16,696 --> 00:50:18,464
- before she gets too far.
- 582
- 00:50:20,198 --> 00:50:22,168
- The phone's
- where it always was.
- 583
- 00:50:45,690 --> 00:50:47,227
- [sighs]
- 584
- 00:50:59,571 --> 00:51:01,638
- How'd it go?
- 585
- 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,742
- Funny.
- 586
- 00:51:12,151 --> 00:51:15,252
- I think one of us
- needs to tell Mark.
- 587
- 00:51:15,254 --> 00:51:16,120
- No.
- 588
- 00:51:16,122 --> 00:51:17,687
- Yes.
- 589
- 00:51:17,689 --> 00:51:19,656
- - It would destroy him.
- - I think he needs to know.
- 590
- 00:51:19,658 --> 00:51:23,627
- I think that it's going
- to be brutal at first,
- 591
- 00:51:23,629 --> 00:51:25,261
- and it will be a lot
- to contend with,
- 592
- 00:51:25,263 --> 00:51:27,163
- but I think that's it gonna
- give him somewhere
- 593
- 00:51:27,165 --> 00:51:30,669
- to direct his anger
- other than just at you.
- 594
- 00:51:33,872 --> 00:51:37,276
- I'd rather he direct
- his anger at me.
- 595
- 00:51:42,681 --> 00:51:45,683
- I don't think that that's
- going to be good enough.
- 596
- 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:47,154
- Okay, that's fine.
- 597
- 00:51:52,692 --> 00:51:54,692
- At what point do I get
- to call the shots
- 598
- 00:51:54,694 --> 00:51:56,096
- on what happened to me?
- 599
- 00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,699
- Well, if we tell him,
- 600
- 00:52:02,701 --> 00:52:06,705
- it'll implicate me for murder,
- you realize.
- 601
- 00:52:08,373 --> 00:52:11,574
- No I don...
- what's he gonna do?
- 602
- 00:52:11,576 --> 00:52:14,745
- Go around and tell everybody
- that his father's a rapist?
- 603
- 00:52:14,747 --> 00:52:16,315
- What if he does?
- 604
- 00:52:18,216 --> 00:52:20,618
- Well, he...
- what does he say?
- 605
- 00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:21,721
- Just...
- 606
- 00:52:25,757 --> 00:52:27,757
- I'll handle Mark.
- 607
- 00:52:27,759 --> 00:52:30,261
- Okay, you'll handle him.
- 608
- 00:52:30,263 --> 00:52:32,598
- You're gonna make him
- another fucking casserole.
- 609
- 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,169
- It was a frittata.
- 610
- 00:53:04,763 --> 00:53:06,230
- - [Mark] Hi.
- - [woman] Hi.
- 611
- 00:53:06,232 --> 00:53:08,299
- - I'm Mark Loekner.
- - Hi, I'm Karen.
- 612
- 00:53:08,301 --> 00:53:11,368
- - I thought you might be.
- - Yeah, nice to see you.
- 613
- 00:53:11,370 --> 00:53:12,969
- I didn't think you were Karen.
- [laughs]
- 614
- 00:53:12,971 --> 00:53:14,871
- - So you gonna join us?
- - That's right, yeah.
- 615
- 00:53:14,873 --> 00:53:16,674
- - If that's all right.
- - Absolutely.
- 616
- 00:53:16,676 --> 00:53:18,641
- I'm not sure if there's
- anything I need to sign.
- 617
- 00:53:18,643 --> 00:53:20,710
- [Karen] Oh, yeah, there's...
- But we can do that after.
- 618
- 00:53:20,712 --> 00:53:22,379
- Make yourself comfortable.
- 619
- 00:53:22,381 --> 00:53:24,982
- We've got some coffee
- over there and some treats.
- 620
- 00:53:24,984 --> 00:53:27,717
- - You can meet everybody.
- - Great, sounds great.
- 621
- 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,390
- - Thanks very much.
- - Well, thank you for coming.
- 622
- 00:53:39,899 --> 00:53:43,667
- [door opens]
- 623
- 00:53:43,669 --> 00:53:45,172
- [door closes]
- 624
- 00:53:53,312 --> 00:53:56,813
- Oh, that's empty.
- The last of it's in here.
- 625
- 00:53:56,815 --> 00:53:59,817
- Someone had the good idea
- to make a pot of decaf.
- 626
- 00:53:59,819 --> 00:54:01,488
- [both chuckle]
- 627
- 00:54:06,692 --> 00:54:08,424
- Is it okay that I'm here?
- 628
- 00:54:08,426 --> 00:54:10,960
- I've been meaning to come
- to these meetings for some time.
- 629
- 00:54:10,962 --> 00:54:14,832
- But I never imagined I'd pick
- the same one as you.
- 630
- 00:54:14,834 --> 00:54:16,303
- Are you can alcoholic?
- 631
- 00:54:17,736 --> 00:54:19,439
- I don't know. Are you?
- 632
- 00:54:23,709 --> 00:54:24,977
- Showtime.
- 633
- 00:54:51,469 --> 00:54:53,272
- Why are you staring
- at the ground?
- 634
- 00:54:55,341 --> 00:54:58,978
- [Zoe] I think someone maybe buried
- that bird that hit the window.
- 635
- 00:55:07,886 --> 00:55:09,886
- Do you think Mom did that?
- 636
- 00:55:09,888 --> 00:55:11,490
- How would I know?
- 637
- 00:55:18,797 --> 00:55:20,864
- What happened this morning?
- 638
- 00:55:20,866 --> 00:55:24,567
- I just... I don't think
- that we should underestimate
- 639
- 00:55:24,569 --> 00:55:25,902
- how angry Mark might be.
- 640
- 00:55:25,904 --> 00:55:27,770
- We shouldn't
- underestimate him?
- 641
- 00:55:27,772 --> 00:55:30,373
- Do you think that, like,
- pretending he doesn't exist
- 642
- 00:55:30,375 --> 00:55:32,542
- is gonna like,
- pacify him or something?
- 643
- 00:55:32,544 --> 00:55:34,377
- No, but I think it's okay
- that she asked you
- 644
- 00:55:34,379 --> 00:55:36,382
- what you guys talked about.
- 645
- 00:55:38,049 --> 00:55:40,516
- Okay, cool.
- 646
- 00:55:40,518 --> 00:55:43,453
- I'm not gonna, like,
- beg for answers here.
- 647
- 00:55:43,455 --> 00:55:45,522
- But just let me know
- whenever you think
- 648
- 00:55:45,524 --> 00:55:48,027
- I can handle whatever
- you're not telling me.
- 649
- 00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:57,600
- [Mark] Sorry, I don't
- exactly know what to say.
- 650
- 00:55:57,602 --> 00:56:02,473
- Uh, didn't get a lot
- of sleep last night.
- 651
- 00:56:02,475 --> 00:56:05,408
- Was kind of counting on a cup
- of coffee to get me through,
- 652
- 00:56:05,410 --> 00:56:07,411
- but, uh, I guess somebody
- thought it would be a good idea
- 653
- 00:56:07,413 --> 00:56:09,446
- to put on a pot of decaf.
- 654
- 00:56:09,448 --> 00:56:11,915
- [laughter]
- 655
- 00:56:11,917 --> 00:56:14,585
- [clears throat] Um...
- 656
- 00:56:14,587 --> 00:56:18,955
- so I started drinking
- after my mom, um,
- 657
- 00:56:18,957 --> 00:56:20,556
- took her own life.
- 658
- 00:56:20,558 --> 00:56:24,895
- She didn't cope well
- with my father's death.
- 659
- 00:56:24,897 --> 00:56:27,931
- And he was, uh,
- 660
- 00:56:27,933 --> 00:56:31,100
- run over
- in front of our house
- 661
- 00:56:31,102 --> 00:56:35,575
- by a friend of his
- who was drunk.
- 662
- 00:56:38,444 --> 00:56:41,645
- So, uh, my mom waited
- until I was 18.
- 663
- 00:56:41,647 --> 00:56:46,417
- Until I was a an adult,
- I guess, and, uh...
- 664
- 00:56:46,419 --> 00:56:47,583
- [chuckles softly]
- 665
- 00:56:47,585 --> 00:56:50,857
- well,
- she decided to clock out.
- 666
- 00:56:53,591 --> 00:56:56,592
- Drinking seemed like the adult
- way to handle that, I guess.
- 667
- 00:56:56,594 --> 00:56:59,929
- And, uh...
- 668
- 00:56:59,931 --> 00:57:01,165
- [clears throat]
- 669
- 00:57:01,167 --> 00:57:04,868
- I don't really
- talk about it a lot,
- 670
- 00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:07,073
- but I would like to start.
- 671
- 00:57:09,174 --> 00:57:13,479
- So I guess that's...
- what I have to say.
- 672
- 00:57:15,647 --> 00:57:17,681
- [Karen] Well,
- that's a fine first go.
- 673
- 00:57:17,683 --> 00:57:23,953
- Your story of loss was not
- only heard...
- 674
- 00:57:23,955 --> 00:57:25,658
- but listened to.
- 675
- 00:57:28,893 --> 00:57:30,594
- Well, I'll be honest.
- 676
- 00:57:30,596 --> 00:57:34,897
- I'm thinking a Band-Aid
- ripping type situation
- 677
- 00:57:34,899 --> 00:57:37,000
- might be best here,
- 678
- 00:57:37,002 --> 00:57:39,636
- i.e., newbie number two
- 679
- 00:57:39,638 --> 00:57:42,605
- having her first kick
- at the can.
- 680
- 00:57:42,607 --> 00:57:43,910
- How about it?
- 681
- 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,913
- Not right now, I don't think.
- 682
- 00:57:50,915 --> 00:57:54,153
- [Karen]
- Oh, okay. Anybody else?
- 683
- 00:57:55,488 --> 00:57:57,056
- Liam.
- 684
- 00:58:05,096 --> 00:58:08,634
- [door opens, closes]
- 685
- 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,556
- - [knock on door]
- - Yep.
- 686
- 00:58:33,558 --> 00:58:36,225
- Jonah is here.
- 687
- 00:58:36,227 --> 00:58:39,164
- I-I put him
- at the dining room table.
- 688
- 00:58:41,634 --> 00:58:43,600
- Tomorrow morning,
- I think you should come
- 689
- 00:58:43,602 --> 00:58:45,101
- to the other house.
- 690
- 00:58:45,103 --> 00:58:47,270
- - To your house?
- - Yeah.
- 691
- 00:58:47,272 --> 00:58:49,672
- No, I'm gonna stay here,
- I think.
- 692
- 00:58:49,674 --> 00:58:51,308
- Okay, if you're
- concerned about me
- 693
- 00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:53,109
- getting the wrong idea,
- don't be.
- 694
- 00:58:53,111 --> 00:58:55,112
- I'll go to a hotel.
- 695
- 00:58:55,114 --> 00:58:56,749
- [Valerie]
- No, I'm gonna stay here.
- 696
- 00:59:05,156 --> 00:59:07,593
- I'll tell him
- you'll be down in a sec.
- 697
- 00:59:55,774 --> 00:59:58,176
- ["door ajar" alarm beeping]
- 698
- 01:00:24,803 --> 01:00:28,071
- [Jonah] I dropped my daughter off
- at her mother's on the way here,
- 699
- 01:00:28,073 --> 01:00:29,672
- and she had
- some colleagues over,
- 700
- 01:00:29,674 --> 01:00:32,808
- and she offered me
- some of the finger foods.
- 701
- 01:00:32,810 --> 01:00:35,312
- Okay.
- 702
- 01:00:35,314 --> 01:00:37,681
- Jim, help yourself
- to any of these.
- 703
- 01:00:37,683 --> 01:00:39,415
- I can't even eat most of them
- on account of the fact
- 704
- 01:00:39,417 --> 01:00:41,217
- that I can't eat lactose,
- there's...
- 705
- 01:00:41,219 --> 01:00:44,353
- Thanks. Appetite's
- been promised elsewhere.
- 706
- 01:00:44,355 --> 01:00:47,790
- Going out to get some Chinese,
- give you guys some privacy.
- 707
- 01:00:47,792 --> 01:00:50,359
- - Girls?
- - Chinese is a great choice.
- 708
- 01:00:50,361 --> 01:00:52,429
- [Jim] Valerie,
- I'll pick something up for you.
- 709
- 01:00:52,431 --> 01:00:54,364
- Sure.
- 710
- 01:00:54,366 --> 01:00:57,833
- You want some, Jonah?
- 711
- 01:00:57,835 --> 01:01:00,170
- Uh, no, no.
- Thanks, though.
- 712
- 01:01:00,172 --> 01:01:01,608
- [Jim] Positive?
- 713
- 01:01:04,176 --> 01:01:07,844
- What are the chances they have
- a beef and black bean sauce?
- 714
- 01:01:07,846 --> 01:01:10,382
- Yeah, yeah, they got that.
- It's one of my faves.
- 715
- 01:01:13,185 --> 01:01:15,252
- Yes, I'll have it.
- Thank you.
- 716
- 01:01:15,254 --> 01:01:17,788
- - Okay, good.
- - You know, what? Uh, no.
- 717
- 01:01:17,790 --> 01:01:20,190
- I don't know if I'll be here
- when you get back.
- 718
- 01:01:20,192 --> 01:01:22,795
- - Thank you, though.
- - Okay, suit yourself.
- 719
- 01:01:25,864 --> 01:01:28,134
- [car engine starts]
- 720
- 01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:40,777
- I don't need to explain to you
- why I'm here, I don't think.
- 721
- 01:01:40,779 --> 01:01:43,116
- Yes I know.
- It won't happen again.
- 722
- 01:01:47,185 --> 01:01:48,884
- You see, um,
- you told me that alcohol
- 723
- 01:01:48,886 --> 01:01:50,353
- wouldn't be a problem,
- 724
- 01:01:50,355 --> 01:01:53,359
- but I classify leaving
- a meeting as a problem.
- 725
- 01:01:56,428 --> 01:01:58,395
- You need to understand
- that this is technically
- 726
- 01:01:58,397 --> 01:02:00,897
- a violation of your terms.
- 727
- 01:02:00,899 --> 01:02:03,366
- [knock on door]
- 728
- 01:02:03,368 --> 01:02:05,304
- - May I?
- - It's fine.
- 729
- 01:02:07,872 --> 01:02:10,272
- - Did the group leader...
- - Karen?
- 730
- 01:02:10,274 --> 01:02:12,408
- Did she tell you
- what happened?
- 731
- 01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:14,780
- She told me you got up
- and left.
- 732
- 01:02:16,748 --> 01:02:20,484
- Do you remember
- the man that I hit?
- 733
- 01:02:20,486 --> 01:02:22,284
- Uh, Michael Loekner.
- 734
- 01:02:22,286 --> 01:02:25,223
- Right.
- His son was there.
- 735
- 01:02:26,457 --> 01:02:28,794
- - His son was...
- - At the meeting.
- 736
- 01:02:30,995 --> 01:02:33,797
- - [knock on door]
- - Oh.
- 737
- 01:02:33,799 --> 01:02:35,268
- I'll be right back.
- 738
- 01:02:49,814 --> 01:02:54,817
- I came to apologize.
- I-I... I crossed the line.
- 739
- 01:02:54,819 --> 01:02:56,920
- I should have left
- as soon as I saw you there.
- 740
- 01:02:56,922 --> 01:02:59,025
- And I didn't, and I'm sorry.
- 741
- 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,493
- I do want to talk to you
- 742
- 01:03:03,495 --> 01:03:06,364
- about what's appropriate
- and what's not.
- 743
- 01:03:08,901 --> 01:03:10,833
- But right now's
- not a good time.
- 744
- 01:03:10,835 --> 01:03:13,370
- Oh, uh, well, Jim and your
- daughters just drove by me
- 745
- 01:03:13,372 --> 01:03:15,272
- so I thought now would
- be a a good time.
- 746
- 01:03:15,274 --> 01:03:16,940
- No, it's not a good time.
- 747
- 01:03:16,942 --> 01:03:19,009
- [Jonah] If I may...
- 748
- 01:03:19,011 --> 01:03:21,310
- I couldn't help but overhear.
- 749
- 01:03:21,312 --> 01:03:25,882
- You must be Michael's son.
- My name's Jonah.
- 750
- 01:03:25,884 --> 01:03:28,551
- Mark, how are you?
- 751
- 01:03:28,553 --> 01:03:30,886
- [Jonah] My condolences.
- 752
- 01:03:30,888 --> 01:03:32,823
- Thanks?
- 753
- 01:03:32,825 --> 01:03:36,393
- Mark, this is my parole officer,
- if you hadn't already guessed.
- 754
- 01:03:36,395 --> 01:03:39,261
- I heard about the meeting.
- 755
- 01:03:39,263 --> 01:03:42,531
- Yeah, unfortunate,
- um, overlap there.
- 756
- 01:03:42,533 --> 01:03:44,069
- I'll say.
- 757
- 01:03:46,071 --> 01:03:48,839
- You know,
- this is a good opportunity.
- 758
- 01:03:48,841 --> 01:03:51,875
- Address this thing head on,
- and while your life, Mark,
- 759
- 01:03:51,877 --> 01:03:55,344
- is none of my business,
- the parts that now intersect
- 760
- 01:03:55,346 --> 01:03:58,582
- with this case,
- with Valerie...
- 761
- 01:03:58,584 --> 01:04:00,051
- they become it.
- 762
- 01:04:02,053 --> 01:04:04,420
- - They become it?
- - Become part of my business.
- 763
- 01:04:04,422 --> 01:04:06,890
- What... what I'm saying is
- if you two are gonna have
- 764
- 01:04:06,892 --> 01:04:09,292
- a discussion about boundaries,
- let's do it the right way.
- 765
- 01:04:09,294 --> 01:04:10,897
- I can mediate.
- 766
- 01:04:15,033 --> 01:04:18,000
- That's a seafood puff pastry,
- 767
- 01:04:18,002 --> 01:04:20,103
- and that is a homemade
- spanakopita,
- 768
- 01:04:20,105 --> 01:04:21,605
- which my ex-wife's
- 769
- 01:04:21,607 --> 01:04:26,076
- girlfriend Carey described
- earlier to me, as divine.
- 770
- 01:04:26,078 --> 01:04:28,047
- - Great.
- - Yes.
- 771
- 01:04:31,116 --> 01:04:33,917
- So, uh, Mark, tell...
- tell me about today.
- 772
- 01:04:33,919 --> 01:04:37,520
- Were you aware that Valerie
- was gonna be at the meeting?
- 773
- 01:04:37,522 --> 01:04:41,024
- Because if you were there
- for the sake of sobriety,
- 774
- 01:04:41,026 --> 01:04:44,361
- of course, I'm all for that,
- but looking at it
- 775
- 01:04:44,363 --> 01:04:46,629
- from another way
- could easily point
- 776
- 01:04:46,631 --> 01:04:50,335
- to a catastrophic invasion
- of privacy.
- 777
- 01:04:51,569 --> 01:04:54,670
- Well, I did want
- to go to the meeting.
- 778
- 01:04:54,672 --> 01:04:58,109
- But I also did have an idea
- that Valerie might be there.
- 779
- 01:05:00,011 --> 01:05:01,944
- I've been holding
- onto a lot anger.
- 780
- 01:05:01,946 --> 01:05:04,413
- As soon as she left,
- I realized
- 781
- 01:05:04,415 --> 01:05:08,150
- I'd made a big mistake
- in how to go about handling it.
- 782
- 01:05:08,152 --> 01:05:12,355
- Okay. So what are we
- gonna do about it?
- 783
- 01:05:12,357 --> 01:05:15,158
- My opinion is we need
- more information,
- 784
- 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,592
- more transparency.
- 785
- 01:05:16,594 --> 01:05:18,627
- Can I suggest a topic
- for us to discuss,
- 786
- 01:05:18,629 --> 01:05:20,496
- - or is there a...
- - In a way.
- 787
- 01:05:20,498 --> 01:05:22,498
- These things
- tend to work better
- 788
- 01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:25,634
- with fewer
- personal elements at play.
- 789
- 01:05:25,636 --> 01:05:30,375
- If you'll indulge me,
- I'm gonna give you these cards.
- 790
- 01:05:37,582 --> 01:05:40,616
- If you have a question
- that you're struggling
- 791
- 01:05:40,618 --> 01:05:43,987
- to ask out loud,
- you write it on the card,
- 792
- 01:05:43,989 --> 01:05:49,725
- and I'll read it out,
- and, uh... like a buffer.
- 793
- 01:05:49,727 --> 01:05:53,096
- Then we can discuss calmly.
- Does that sound...
- 794
- 01:05:53,098 --> 01:05:55,468
- [telephone ringing]
- 795
- 01:06:12,183 --> 01:06:14,417
- "How did you feel
- about my father?"
- 796
- 01:06:14,419 --> 01:06:16,685
- Uh, I'm speaking on
- Mark's behalf, obviously.
- 797
- 01:06:16,687 --> 01:06:20,022
- I wouldn't expect you to have
- feelings about my father.
- 798
- 01:06:20,024 --> 01:06:21,693
- Not many people do.
- 799
- 01:06:24,562 --> 01:06:28,063
- Can I, um... yeah.
- 800
- 01:06:28,065 --> 01:06:30,433
- Michael was great.
- He was funny.
- 801
- 01:06:30,435 --> 01:06:32,701
- He had a very dry
- sense of humor.
- 802
- 01:06:32,703 --> 01:06:37,676
- He was very polite to me.
- He was a warm man.
- 803
- 01:06:39,111 --> 01:06:42,045
- You weren't at the funeral.
- 804
- 01:06:42,047 --> 01:06:45,181
- Well, I thought it would
- be selfish to show my face.
- 805
- 01:06:45,183 --> 01:06:46,583
- That makes sense.
- 806
- 01:06:46,585 --> 01:06:48,717
- I'm guessing you remember
- Wendy Barnes?
- 807
- 01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:50,252
- - You guys were friends, right?
- - Yeah.
- 808
- 01:06:50,254 --> 01:06:51,654
- She she didn't show up either.
- 809
- 01:06:51,656 --> 01:06:53,223
- Everyone else
- from the plant was there.
- 810
- 01:06:53,225 --> 01:06:57,594
- Was that some kind of
- a solidarity thing or...
- 811
- 01:06:57,596 --> 01:06:59,261
- I don't know.
- [chuckles]
- 812
- 01:06:59,263 --> 01:07:01,096
- Then she quit like
- two weeks after.
- 813
- 01:07:01,098 --> 01:07:04,734
- I'm just... I guess I hope
- she handled everything okay.
- 814
- 01:07:04,736 --> 01:07:07,569
- [telephone ringing]
- 815
- 01:07:07,571 --> 01:07:10,075
- - Have you seen her yet?
- - Yeah.
- 816
- 01:07:14,078 --> 01:07:15,680
- Did you want to get that?
- 817
- 01:07:21,085 --> 01:07:23,089
- I'll be right back.
- 818
- 01:07:30,194 --> 01:07:31,627
- [telephone beeps]
- 819
- 01:07:31,629 --> 01:07:34,763
- [female voice]
- You have one new voice...
- 820
- 01:07:34,765 --> 01:07:37,100
- - [beep]
- - First voice message.
- 821
- 01:07:37,102 --> 01:07:39,238
- [Wendy] Val, um...
- 822
- 01:07:40,806 --> 01:07:42,675
- Mark came to my house.
- 823
- 01:07:44,308 --> 01:07:47,580
- He asked if you had
- a reason for killing Michael.
- 824
- 01:07:54,518 --> 01:07:56,522
- I didn't say anything,
- but...
- 825
- 01:07:59,091 --> 01:08:00,759
- I wasn't prepared.
- 826
- 01:08:04,796 --> 01:08:06,129
- I'm sorry.
- 827
- 01:08:06,131 --> 01:08:07,700
- [hangs up, phone beeps]
- 828
- 01:08:14,172 --> 01:08:15,672
- - Everything okay?
- - Mm-hmm.
- 829
- 01:08:15,674 --> 01:08:17,740
- A friend of mine's
- gonna visit here soon,
- 830
- 01:08:17,742 --> 01:08:20,110
- and she's got...
- we've got nine possible plans
- 831
- 01:08:20,112 --> 01:08:21,311
- for us to do together...
- 832
- 01:08:21,313 --> 01:08:23,780
- Am I allowed to ask you
- a question?
- 833
- 01:08:23,782 --> 01:08:25,548
- [Jonah] All right.
- 834
- 01:08:25,550 --> 01:08:27,717
- Um...
- 835
- 01:08:27,719 --> 01:08:30,719
- Have you ever heard
- of a case in which a person
- 836
- 01:08:30,721 --> 01:08:33,722
- committed a crime in car
- and then drank after the fact,
- 837
- 01:08:33,724 --> 01:08:39,329
- to make it seem like they'd
- just been drinking and driving?
- 838
- 01:08:39,331 --> 01:08:41,563
- The person was sober before?
- 839
- 01:08:41,565 --> 01:08:43,833
- - That's right.
- - Not that I can think of.
- 840
- 01:08:43,835 --> 01:08:49,172
- [Mar] So does anybody ever
- question drunk driving or...
- 841
- 01:08:49,174 --> 01:08:51,176
- [Jonah]
- Uh, question how?
- 842
- 01:08:52,777 --> 01:08:54,677
- Well, let's say you wanted
- to kill someone, right?
- 843
- 01:08:54,679 --> 01:08:56,678
- You could just go ahead
- and do it and say,
- 844
- 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,714
- "Yep, I did it,"
- you could do that.
- 845
- 01:08:58,716 --> 01:09:01,683
- Or, you could try to claim
- that you were mentally ill.
- 846
- 01:09:01,685 --> 01:09:04,387
- But then there's a whole...
- what, a vetting process,
- 847
- 01:09:04,389 --> 01:09:06,755
- and you run the risk
- of being institutionalized
- 848
- 01:09:06,757 --> 01:09:09,892
- - or medicated...
- - This seems to be getting off topic.
- 849
- 01:09:09,894 --> 01:09:11,793
- No, no, it's the topic.
- 850
- 01:09:11,795 --> 01:09:14,797
- So, hypothetically,
- let's just say that Valerie
- 851
- 01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:17,333
- wanted to kill my father,
- which we know isn't true,
- 852
- 01:09:17,335 --> 01:09:20,869
- because she thought he was warm,
- but let's just say she did.
- 853
- 01:09:20,871 --> 01:09:22,938
- She saw him.
- She ran him down.
- 854
- 01:09:22,940 --> 01:09:27,343
- Could she not then drink
- after the fact,
- 855
- 01:09:27,345 --> 01:09:29,648
- plead guilty
- to a lesser charge?
- 856
- 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,722
- Well, I'm not sure
- what the point would be.
- 857
- 01:09:40,724 --> 01:09:43,959
- She swerves from a dog,
- hits someone,
- 858
- 01:09:43,961 --> 01:09:46,628
- six months' jail, maybe.
- 859
- 01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:48,700
- Well,
- pretend there's no dog.
- 860
- 01:09:53,337 --> 01:09:56,705
- Well, there would need
- to be motive.
- 861
- 01:09:56,707 --> 01:09:59,344
- Otherwise,
- people make mistakes.
- 862
- 01:10:01,779 --> 01:10:05,380
- What would be her motive?
- Hypothetically.
- 863
- 01:10:05,382 --> 01:10:07,883
- [mark] Well, yeah,
- I mean, that's... that's...
- 864
- 01:10:07,885 --> 01:10:10,255
- that's just it, isn't it?
- 865
- 01:10:19,264 --> 01:10:20,963
- I'm getting
- the distinct feeling
- 866
- 01:10:20,965 --> 01:10:24,267
- that I was missing some context
- before I suggested talking,
- 867
- 01:10:24,269 --> 01:10:25,704
- the three of us.
- 868
- 01:10:28,872 --> 01:10:31,740
- Do you want me to fill him in,
- or do you want to?
- 869
- 01:10:31,742 --> 01:10:32,678
- Go ahead.
- 870
- 01:10:34,446 --> 01:10:39,414
- Mark thinks I'm lying.
- That's very clear to me now.
- 871
- 01:10:39,416 --> 01:10:42,884
- And I should've told you,
- but I didn't want to alarm you,
- 872
- 01:10:42,886 --> 01:10:44,721
- and I didn't think
- he'd come over here and make
- 873
- 01:10:44,723 --> 01:10:46,489
- - a fool out of himself.
- - You have lied.
- 874
- 01:10:46,491 --> 01:10:49,359
- Why would you give details about
- something you weren't sure...
- 875
- 01:10:49,361 --> 01:10:52,695
- The dog? That's the big lie
- you've uncovered?
- 876
- 01:10:52,697 --> 01:10:54,830
- Well, the dog, the cat,
- the fucking hamster
- 877
- 01:10:54,832 --> 01:10:56,732
- you swerve around
- is inconsequential
- 878
- 01:10:56,734 --> 01:10:58,500
- - when you're drunk.
- - But you weren't drunk, though.
- 879
- 01:10:58,502 --> 01:11:00,969
- What didn't you understand
- about the penalty being worse
- 880
- 01:11:00,971 --> 01:11:01,971
- for driving drunk?
- 881
- 01:11:01,973 --> 01:11:03,772
- Why would I drink after?
- 882
- 01:11:03,774 --> 01:11:06,342
- [Mark] So you wouldn't
- be charged with murder!
- 883
- 01:11:06,344 --> 01:11:07,977
- And if you drink beforehand,
- you you run the risk
- 884
- 01:11:07,979 --> 01:11:10,012
- of missing your target,
- I mean, come on!
- 885
- 01:11:10,014 --> 01:11:13,516
- You don't accelerate towards
- somebody unless you're trying
- 886
- 01:11:13,518 --> 01:11:15,785
- - to commit murder...
- - I'm gonna show you to the door now.
- 887
- 01:11:15,787 --> 01:11:17,719
- Maybe we can all meet
- in a more controlled setting
- 888
- 01:11:17,721 --> 01:11:19,321
- once you both
- have calmed down.
- 889
- 01:11:19,323 --> 01:11:21,227
- [Mark] Hang on a second.
- [thumps table]
- 890
- 01:11:32,836 --> 01:11:34,739
- Could you sit down, please?
- 891
- 01:11:46,350 --> 01:11:49,321
- Jonah, I'm sorry that you
- had to be here for this.
- 892
- 01:12:15,779 --> 01:12:17,049
- [Mark] Why?
- 893
- 01:12:21,019 --> 01:12:23,489
- [car approaching]
- 894
- 01:12:29,861 --> 01:12:31,796
- [car stops]
- 895
- 01:12:36,835 --> 01:12:38,069
- [engine turns off]
- 896
- 01:12:40,404 --> 01:12:44,309
- - [door opens]
- - [Jim] Jonah, I got you some of that black bean...
- 897
- 01:12:45,844 --> 01:12:48,878
- - Oh. Stay back girls.
- - [door closes]
- 898
- 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,051
- Will the three of you come
- into this room here, please?
- 899
- 01:12:53,984 --> 01:12:59,558
- And, um, put your phones
- on the table and have a seat?
- 900
- 01:13:07,831 --> 01:13:10,035
- Thank you.
- 901
- 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,055
- Do they know?
- 902
- 01:13:32,590 --> 01:13:34,990
- I mean,
- I'm guessing Jim knows, right?
- 903
- 01:13:34,992 --> 01:13:36,558
- Mark, what are you doing?
- 904
- 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,195
- Oh, uh, your mom
- killed my dad on purpose.
- 905
- 01:13:39,197 --> 01:13:41,530
- Wendy Barnes told me.
- 906
- 01:13:41,532 --> 01:13:43,134
- [Valerie]
- Wendy didn't say anything.
- 907
- 01:13:49,674 --> 01:13:52,008
- Mom, you tell him right now
- or I will.
- 908
- 01:13:52,010 --> 01:13:55,043
- - Eleanor.
- - [Mark] Tell me what?
- 909
- 01:13:55,045 --> 01:14:00,016
- Mark... it's time
- to go home, son.
- 910
- 01:14:00,018 --> 01:14:02,154
- Don't call me that.
- Tell me what?
- 911
- 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,689
- Mom?
- 912
- 01:14:19,069 --> 01:14:20,605
- [Mark] Nothing.
- 913
- 01:14:22,607 --> 01:14:24,042
- Wow.
- 914
- 01:14:33,651 --> 01:14:36,552
- You took
- my fucking family from me.
- 915
- 01:14:36,554 --> 01:14:39,658
- The least you can do
- is tell me why.
- 916
- 01:14:46,997 --> 01:14:48,533
- [Eleanor] Mark...
- 917
- 01:14:57,175 --> 01:15:00,109
- I think we should all just
- take a moment and reassess.
- 918
- 01:15:00,111 --> 01:15:01,546
- No...
- 919
- 01:15:27,738 --> 01:15:29,107
- [Jonah grunts]
- 920
- 01:15:37,148 --> 01:15:38,750
- [Jonah] BB gun.
- 921
- 01:15:43,121 --> 01:15:46,121
- [Eleanor] Are you okay?
- 922
- 01:15:46,123 --> 01:15:48,024
- Think I should get
- to a hospital.
- 923
- 01:15:48,026 --> 01:15:49,691
- May have nicked a vein.
- 924
- 01:15:49,693 --> 01:15:52,227
- [Eleanor]
- Get... get me my phone.
- 925
- 01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:54,065
- [Zoe] I'll get a towel.
- 926
- 01:15:58,569 --> 01:16:01,803
- [Eleanor] Hi, could I get
- an ambulance to 240 Dunsmere?
- 927
- 01:16:01,805 --> 01:16:04,774
- Someone has been shot
- in the neck by a... a BB,
- 928
- 01:16:04,776 --> 01:16:07,778
- and a young man has been struck
- in the head by a blunt object.
- 929
- 01:16:11,616 --> 01:16:15,520
- Road, 240 Dunsmere Road.
- Okay, bye.
- 930
- 01:16:25,063 --> 01:16:26,797
- Is what Mark said the truth?
- 931
- 01:16:29,834 --> 01:16:31,569
- Yeah.
- 932
- 01:17:08,272 --> 01:17:10,207
- You okay, Zoe?
- 933
- 01:17:54,251 --> 01:17:56,687
- [garage door whirring]
- 934
- 01:18:30,721 --> 01:18:32,224
- [buzzer buzzes]
- 935
- 01:19:02,953 --> 01:19:04,786
- [engine starts]
- 936
- 01:19:04,788 --> 01:19:06,454
- [woman on radio] Diana, now,
- before I deliver
- 937
- 01:19:06,456 --> 01:19:09,325
- the bad news for Canadians,
- know that the US
- 938
- 01:19:09,327 --> 01:19:12,328
- is facing cold,
- brutal weather as well.
- 939
- 01:19:12,330 --> 01:19:14,763
- In Waco, Texas,
- drivers are having trouble
- 940
- 01:19:14,765 --> 01:19:17,399
- getting traction
- on all of the major roads,
- 941
- 01:19:17,401 --> 01:19:19,968
- and people are being asked
- to stay inside their homes
- 942
- 01:19:19,970 --> 01:19:23,938
- until road crews
- can solve the problem.
- 943
- 01:19:23,940 --> 01:19:25,874
- Further north,
- downed power lines
- 944
- 01:19:25,876 --> 01:19:28,944
- have cut off electricity to
- thousands in much of Michigan
- 945
- 01:19:28,946 --> 01:19:31,780
- where, over the past week,
- there's been a record number
- 946
- 01:19:31,782 --> 01:19:34,383
- of school closures
- for the month of April.
- 947
- 01:19:34,385 --> 01:19:36,852
- Our country is finished
- with what are likely
- 948
- 01:19:36,854 --> 01:19:39,888
- its most significant systems
- until next winter,
- 949
- 01:19:39,890 --> 01:19:42,357
- but there are several
- other systems on the way
- 950
- 01:19:42,359 --> 01:19:45,360
- that could cause significant
- trouble and concern.
- 951
- 01:19:45,362 --> 01:19:48,030
- The Pacific flow threatens
- to bring uncomfortable weather
- 952
- 01:19:48,032 --> 01:19:51,834
- to our west coast, including
- the metro Vancouver area,
- 953
- 01:19:51,836 --> 01:19:53,968
- where heavy amounts
- of snow will be followed
- 954
- 01:19:53,970 --> 01:19:55,503
- by heavy amounts of rain.
- 955
- 01:19:55,505 --> 01:19:58,473
- Luckily we have some
- warm weather and rain...
- 956
- 01:19:58,475 --> 01:20:01,509
- - Love you.
- - Love you, too.
- 957
- 01:20:01,511 --> 01:20:04,879
- [woman onr adio] It's a very
- different story for Ontario.
- 958
- 01:20:04,881 --> 01:20:07,850
- We have watches and warnings
- nearly everywhere on the map
- 959
- 01:20:07,852 --> 01:20:11,954
- due to the Texas flow
- in Alberta...
- 960
- 01:20:11,956 --> 01:20:14,259
- [continues indistinctly]
- 961
- 01:20:22,430 --> 01:20:26,684
- Subtitles by explosiveskull
- 962
- 01:20:27,037 --> 01:20:30,039
- [woman]
- ♪ Mid pleasures ♪
- 963
- 01:20:30,041 --> 01:20:33,875
- ♪ And palaces ♪
- 964
- 01:20:33,877 --> 01:20:37,882
- ♪ Though we may roam ♪
- 965
- 01:20:39,317 --> 01:20:44,089
- ♪ Be it ever so humble ♪
- 966
- 01:20:45,488 --> 01:20:49,960
- ♪ There's no place like home ♪
- 967
- 01:20:51,429 --> 01:20:54,495
- ♪ How sweet it is ♪
- 968
- 01:20:54,497 --> 01:20:57,365
- ♪ To sit 'neath ♪
- 969
- 01:20:57,367 --> 01:21:01,338
- ♪ A fond father's smile ♪
- 970
- 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:09,011
- ♪ And the caress of a mother ♪
- 971
- 01:21:09,013 --> 01:21:13,818
- ♪ To soothe and beguile ♪
- 972
- 01:21:15,653 --> 01:21:16,922
- ♪ Home ♪
- 973
- 01:21:18,322 --> 01:21:19,591
- ♪ Home ♪
- 974
- 01:21:21,591 --> 01:21:25,397
- ♪ Sweet, sweet home ♪
- 975
- 01:21:26,898 --> 01:21:31,903
- ♪ There's no place
- like home ♪
- 976
- 01:21:33,470 --> 01:21:36,972
- ♪ There's no place ♪
- 977
- 01:21:36,974 --> 01:21:40,109
- ♪ Like ♪
- 978
- 01:21:40,111 --> 01:21:41,479
- ♪ Home ♪
- 979
- 01:21:52,089 --> 01:21:54,492
- [whistling tune]
- 980
- 01:22:03,968 --> 01:22:08,503
- ♪ An exile from home ♪
- 981
- 01:22:08,505 --> 01:22:14,411
- ♪ Splendor dazzles in vain ♪
- 982
- 01:22:15,979 --> 01:22:21,517
- ♪ Oh, give me my lowly ♪
- 983
- 01:22:21,519 --> 01:22:24,453
- ♪ Thatched cottage ♪
- 984
- 01:22:24,455 --> 01:22:26,190
- ♪ Again ♪
- 985
- 01:22:28,059 --> 01:22:33,428
- ♪ The birds singing gaily ♪
- 986
- 01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:39,401
- ♪ That came at my call ♪
- 987
- 01:22:39,403 --> 01:22:42,538
- ♪ Give me them with ♪
- 988
- 01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:46,208
- ♪ A peace of mind ♪
- 989
- 01:22:46,210 --> 01:22:50,415
- ♪ Dearer than all ♪
- 990
- 01:22:52,616 --> 01:22:55,683
- ♪ Home ♪
- 991
- 01:22:55,685 --> 01:22:58,486
- ♪ Home ♪
- 992
- 01:22:58,488 --> 01:23:02,660
- ♪ Sweet, sweet home ♪
- 993
- 01:23:04,627 --> 01:23:09,701
- ♪ There's no place like home ♪
- 994
- 01:23:11,202 --> 01:23:16,241
- ♪ There's no place ♪
- 995
- 01:23:18,009 --> 01:23:23,044
- ♪ Like ♪
- 996
- 01:23:23,046 --> 01:23:24,950
- ♪ Home ♪
- 997
- 01:23:29,220 --> 01:23:31,723
- [whistles tune]
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