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  1. M0cinho ~ Rafael - vandaag om 19:32
  2. hey
  3. You are not always putting faith in what we are going to achieve.
  4. If you want to leave the team, you can leave.
  5.  
  6. Stuckerrs - vandaag om 19:33
  7. I'm not.
  8.  
  9. M0cinho ~ Rafael - vandaag om 19:33
  10. I talked to some and they think the same
  11.  
  12. Stuckerrs - vandaag om 19:33
  13. It's just that Mquk put the tournament entirely in their favo
  14. And we don't agree with that.
  15.  
  16. M0cinho ~ Rafael - vandaag om 19:34
  17. you're scared of Jeyer's team, saying that we're going to lose
  18.  
  19. Stuckerrs - vandaag om 19:34
  20. Because we didn't sign up for a tournament based on racing, because everyone thought this was going to be a tournament based on completions
  21. I'm saying that the tournament is entirely in Jeyers favo
  22.  
  23. M0cinho ~ Rafael - vandaag om 19:34
  24. Like I said, if you want to leave, feel at ease.
  25.  
  26. Stuckerrs - vandaag om 19:35
  27. because they're using Jeyer's bloody Lua.
  28. Did you look into what is happening here at all.
  29. I had full confidence in our team.
  30. We were going to kick ass.
  31.  
  32. M0cinho ~ Rafael - vandaag om 19:35
  33. We did not call, we just wanted to play.
  34. Stuckerrs - vandaag om 19:36
  35.  
  36. But Mquk disappointed a bunch of players by putting a lua that not everyone agrees with
  37. A lua where all of our practice is for nothing, because literally
  38. we practiced for hardcamp maps, right.
  39. I just went through the ;lua
  40. skipped maps 30 times and found my first hardcamp map
  41. The matches go to D20
  42. Which means that in that whole match, you wouldn't have had ONE hardcamp map even.
  43. Not even ONE.
  44. That is the problem
  45. Not our team.
  46. Things don't look well organized and certain players in the tournament have realised that
  47.  
  48. M0cinho ~ Rafael - vandaag om 19:38
  49. Okay, just do not keep talking about what we're going to lose.
  50. Let's just play.
  51.  
  52.  
  53. Stuckerrs - vandaag om 19:39
  54. Point is: The tournament is in favo of Xor's team.
  55. Because they're entirely used to Jeyer's lua
  56. And the entire lua is 95% Jeyer's Lua
  57. and 5% Hardcamp
  58. Which creates a biased situation
  59. People wanted a LUA where the maps played for a certain time
  60. and each team competitively needed to gather as many points as possible
  61. A lot of us expected that to be the LUA that we were going to play in
  62. but Yesterday afternoon found out the absolute opposite
  63. On top of that the fact that the lua was promised to have the ''easiest'' D1 maps
  64. Which is untrue, because the hardcamp list exists out of merely a very few amount of easy ones.
  65. I believe in us, but things just seem biased.
  66. And none of us expected it to be that way
  67. To Auroraclears steppped out of the tournament over it even.
  68. Antonioepf is unhappy about it.
  69. Dotator is unhappy about it.
  70. That's not me not believing in the team.
  71. That's me believing that things weren't thought out very well.
  72. I'm sorry if you guys think I don't believe a single damn in you.
  73. I just believe this should've been thought through better by the creator of the tournament
  74. So that people would actually be happy about the way things are being done
  75. Ofcourse I'll just stay to play now.
  76. But yeah, that's all
  77.  
  78. < is me
  79. > is M0cinho
  80.  
  81. < [20:10] [M0cinho] do you understand what I just explained.
  82. < [20:10] [M0cinho] I just want to get that out there.
  83. < [20:10] [M0cinho] Because I called our team: ''The Winning Team''
  84. < [20:10] [M0cinho] since day 1
  85.  
  86. > [20:11] [br] [M0cinho] stop said please
  87.  
  88. < [20:12] [M0cinho] How can I remotely change your opinion here
  89. < [20:12] [M0cinho] if I cannot have my say here.
  90.  
  91. > [20:12] [br] [M0cinho] damn stop please.....
  92.  
  93. < [20:12] [M0cinho] Fine. Just don't think that way about me.
  94.  
  95. < me
  96. > dotator
  97.  
  98. < [20:00] [Dotator] lol apparently m0cinho contacted members
  99. < [20:01] [Dotator] about me being unhappy or some bullshit
  100.  
  101. > [20:01] [en] [Dotator] me included
  102.  
  103. < [20:01] [Dotator] the tournament is biased
  104. < [20:01] [Dotator] and build for xorcists team
  105. < [20:01] [Dotator] thats just it
  106. < [20:01] [Dotator] thats not me complaining
  107. < [20:01] [Dotator] that's a lot of people saying that
  108. < [20:02] [Dotator] that's not me not having faith in the team
  109. < [20:02] [Dotator] from the start of the tourney i called us: The Winning Team
  110. < [20:02] [Dotator] literally from the start already
  111. < [20:02] [Dotator] But this isn't a hardcamp tournament anymore.
  112. < [20:03] [Dotator] This is public bootcamp speedrun tournament
  113. < [20:03] [Dotator] in a lua
  114. < [20:03] [Dotator] entirely made by Jeyer himself
  115. < [20:03] [Dotator] in maps he likes himself
  116. < [20:03] [Dotator] and maps he is best at
  117. < [20:03] [Dotator] where his team is best at*
  118. < [20:03] [Dotator] and that is the problem here
  119. < [20:03] [Dotator] rthats what people are unhappy about
  120. < [20:04] [Dotator] that the tournament is not thought through well at all
  121. < [20:04] [Dotator] and its biased and unfairly made
  122. < [20:05] [Dotator] a bunch of people didn't sign up for this
  123. < [20:05] [Dotator] they were prepared for a different lua aswell
  124. < [20:05] [Dotator] not this one.
  125. < [20:05] [Dotator] even players from Xorcist's Team
  126. themselves are complaining about it
  127. < [20:05] [Dotator] This is not me not having faith in our team
  128. < [20:06] [Dotator] this is me wanting a normal deccent organized tournament
  129. < [20:06] [Dotator] not something picked up from the junkyard
  130. < [20:06] [Dotator] Pratton had a team of 10 member
  131. < [20:06] [Dotator] We had a team of 9 memebers
  132. < [20:06] [Dotator] and we needed to get rid of 2 people
  133. < [20:06] [Dotator] just because mquk decided to random
  134. < [20:06] [Dotator] randomly for idfk what reason
  135. < [20:06] [Dotator] change the rules
  136. < [20:06] [Dotator] so people needed t be talked to
  137. < [20:07] [Dotator] said to: OH YE WE DONT NEED YOU ANYMORE
  138. < [20:07] [Dotator] IM SORRY SEE YOU LATER
  139. < [20:07] [Dotator] because they had a full team and neded to kick people out
  140. < [20:07] [Dotator] and that is what people are unhappy about
  141. < [20:08] [Dotator] me included
  142. < [20:08] [Dotator] nonetheless i doubt people understand how this is biased
  143. < [20:08] [Dotator] even when i explain it rn to them
  144. < [20:08] [Dotator] if i'm unfaithfull for thinking this tourney isnt well thought through at all
  145. < [20:09] [Dotator] and it's put entirely in favo of jeyers team
  146. < [20:09] [Dotator] then every team is not believing in their team rn
  147. < [20:09] [Dotator] including xors team
  148. < [20:10] [Dotator] idfk why people instantly drew conclusions in that
  149. < [20:10] [Dotator] but whatever
  150. < [20:13] [Dotator] then i try to explain that i fucking
  151. < [20:13] [Dotator] then i try to explain that i fucking think we're the winning team since day one already
  152. < [20:13] [Dotator] and this is the response:
  153. < [20:13] [Dotator] > [20:12] [br] [M0cinho] damn stop please.....
  154. < [20:14] [Dotator] drops accusations
  155. < [20:14] [Dotator] i try to explain
  156. < [20:14] [Dotator] ''PLS STOP''
  157. < [20:14] [Dotator] no dude let me explain my situation here
  158. < [20:14] [Dotator] so you can understand what is going on here
  159. < [20:21] [Dotator] so what now lmao
  160. < [20:21] [Dotator] do you even understand where im coming from here atleast
  161.  
  162. > [20:22] [en] [Dotator] yes ofc
  163.  
  164. < [20:22] [Dotator] do you?
  165. < [20:22] [Dotator] because this guy i tried to explain it to
  166. < [20:23] [Dotator] < [20:10] [M0cinho] do you understand what I just explained.< [20:10] [M0cinho] I just want to get that out there.< [20:10] [M0cinho] Because I called our team: ''The Winning Team''< [20:10] [M0cinho] since day 1> [20:11] [br] [M0cinho] stop s
  167. < [20:23] [Dotator] < [20:12] [M0cinho] How can I remotely change your opinion here< [20:12] [M0cinho] if I cannot have my say here.> [20:12] [br] [M0cinho] damn stop please.....< [20:12] [M0cinho] Fine. Just don't think that way about me.
  168. < [20:23] [Dotator] why tf are people constantly like this dude
  169. < [20:24] [Dotator] i like m0cinho but i mean
  170. < [20:24] [Dotator] you cannot just say ''okay, this guy is a brutal murderer''
  171. < [20:24] [Dotator] and then not let the guy explain himself
  172. < [20:25] [Dotator] when it turns out to be a whole different situation
  173. < [20:25] [Dotator] you dont get put in jail over an allegation
  174. < [20:25] [Dotator] people have a chance to defend themselves
  175. < [20:25] [Dotator] to let them defend themselves
  176. < [20:25] [Dotator] if you get what i mean LMAO
  177.  
  178. > [20:26] [en] [Dotator] yup
  179.  
  180. < [20:40] [Dotator] and people wonder why im making racist comments to brs and turks
  181. < [20:40] [Dotator] jesus
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