[00:19]
Emir:
	you seem very into politics. I havent looked in it that much, this is just what i think so far
	i hope you get my stance haha

[00:19]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	yeah thats completely fine, and im here to educate you if you wan
	want*

[00:20]
Emir:
	i guess im more on the right side?

[00:20]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i dont wanna force my views down anyones throat, but i like talking about stuff
	eh kinda

[00:20]
Emir:
	yes same

[00:20]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	where are you from, if i may ask?

[00:20]
Emir:
	my entire family is from ex-yugoslavia (bosnia now)
	im from germany tho
	they fled from yugoslavia while my mother was pregnant and came to germany

[00:21]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	ah okay
	anyway, i try to reach out to people who are mostly politically ignorant, who are young, working class, and with a lot of anger or misguided views

[00:22]
Emir:
	i think most people online are like that haha
	but i think they are trolling tho

[00:23]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	because you are exactly the type of person the radical right is trying to recruit, the ones that are just really edgy and think the left is trying to censor them
	might be, but trolling often becomes sincere

[00:23]
Emir:
	yea i think i defently have right views but not to an extreme extent

[00:24]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i know, but youre still the person theyre trying to recruit
	im not calling you evil or mean, just pointing it out how you fit their target demographic

[00:24]
Emir:
	i dont think any recruting is going on

[00:24]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	then you are blind

[00:24]
Emir:
	do you mean political parties trying to get you to vote for them?
	or?

[00:25]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	no, i'm talking about neo-nazis trying to get people into their worldview
	pewdiepie is a neo nazi, so is jontron

[00:25]
Emir:
	i dont watch either of them right now
	but doesnt pewdiepie jsut talk about memes?

[00:26]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	it doesnt matter if YOU dont watch them, someone does, and these edgy memes spread like wildfire. they have a HUGE grip on the minds of young men, whom they are trying to recruit, through humor

[00:26]
Emir:
	yea just saying i dont watch them so i cant confirm or deny your point

[00:26]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	and no, pewdiepie has said "death to all jews", follows a bunch of nazis on twitter etc
	yeah i know, i dont wanna seem like a lunatic who's crazy about the world ending

[00:27]
Emir:
	oh i did hear about the death to jews thing
	with the fiverr guys?

[00:27]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	yup
	also said nigger twice on stream

[00:27]
Emir:
	you might call me ignorant but thats just dark humor

[00:27]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	thats right i say the n word
	the left are trying to censor people? heck nah

[00:27]
Emir:
	he has no intetion to "recruit" people

[00:27]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i know
	but you wanna know what dark humor is
	it is NOT joking about marginalized people while supporting people who want to genocide them

[00:28]
Emir:
	A form of humor involving a twist or joke making the joke seen as offensive, harsh, horrid. Yet the joke is still funny. You need to have pension for dark humor in order to find it truly funny. In a way, it could be seen as the jokes are so horrible in their twist that it makes it funny.

[00:28]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i know, im edgy as fuck, i love that kinda humor

[00:28]
Emir:
	and he made people on fiverr say something twisted

[00:28]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	but i also show my support

[00:29]
Emir:
	the joke was that he thought obviously nobody is gonna say that but they still did

[00:29]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i wanna be able to live in a world where i can joke about how black people have the same skin color as shit, that women are fuckholes and faggots should kill themselves, WITHOUT inforcing any of the systemic issues that actually hurt them
	trust me, i LOOOOVE edgy humor, but not people who hide their bigotry behind it
	do you understand?

[00:30]
Emir:
	yes
	"i wanna be able to live in a world where i can joke about how black people have the same skin color as shit, that women are fuckholes and faggots should kill themselves, WITHOUT inforcing any of the systemic issues that actually hurt them"
	you can do that
	oh shit its getting late

[00:31]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	no, you cant. because those people have been told that by people genuinely trying to hurt them
	indeed

[00:31]
Emir:
	i think i have to leave in the next 10 minutes, have to wake up in 6 hours

[00:31]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	ah gotcha

[00:32]
Emir:
	but if you make jokes about black people for example
	like racist jokes
	they are funny becuase actual racists think like that

[00:33]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	the reason why you can call a white person a cracker on youtube, and you cant call a black person a nigger, is that the second one will remind the target that their friends and family have just been discriminated against in society souley for the color of their skin

[00:33]
Emir:
	and thats the point

[00:33]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	yeah, exactly!!
	make fun of the racist, not the minority
	but so many people miss that point

[00:33]
Emir:
	i dont think so
	i assume they think the joke is inappropriate since you talk about something so dark in the "wrong" situaton

[00:34]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	it's not tho
	people joke with me how im a tranny faggot who should hang themself, and i laugh along with them

[00:35]
Emir:
	are you trans?

[00:35]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	but when people whom i dont know say that, i get offended because i dont know their intent
	indeed
	but yeah, i'm not offended by that being joked about in good faith
	i fuckin love it

[00:35]
Emir:
	thats your own fault isnt it?
	assuming people are not joking?

[00:36]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	well, 99% of the time, they're serious
	if theyre being hostile towards me and they say that, they are serious
	if theyre friendly, theyre not serious

[00:36]
Emir:
	oh i just got what youre saying
	people being offensive towards you using jokes
	while actually supporting the joke

[00:37]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	theyre not jokes in their mind, but sure

[00:37]
Emir:
	or the "meaning"
	yea

[00:37]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	if i joke about the color of a black persons skin being the same as shit, the thing i find funny is how much people care about something as meaningless as the color of someones skin

[00:38]
Emir:
	yea i get it now

[00:38]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	so you see how edgy jokes can be done in good faith?
	this is what i want to encourage people to do
	a narrative the right wing uses often is "the left is trying to take away your free speech, you can't say these things anymore"
	while the truth is, anything can be said as long as you arent a complete fucking asshole

[00:39]
Emir:
	ok i will sound like an asshole to you now but
	i think i am racist to some extent
	and some of the jokes i make are actually what i think

[00:40]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	mhm, and i think thats completely fine
	i used to be racist as fuck too
	i was a reactionary at 14 years old, during gamergate
	im still as edgy as ever, but now i understand the causes behind WHY people are percieved to be weaker

[00:41]
Emir:
	yea ok
	also i have a question
	trans is neither male nor female right?
	or is it going from one to another

[00:42]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	it's a fact that black people commit more crime than white people, but i know thats its because of systemic oppression, capitalism, shitty culture, racism; but its really easy to just go "lol black man bad"
	trans is going from one to the other, intersex or non-binary are the terms for neither one

[00:42]
Emir:
	so you went from male to female?
	a friend of mine did that, i lost contact to him and he commited suicide last year..

[00:43]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	intersex is if someone has for instance, female chromosomes but was born with a penis. non binary is if someone feels like theyre neither male nor female, but are still physically either male or female
	yeah i did
	shit, that's so fucking sad
	im so sorry for you and them

[00:43]
Emir:
	he wanted surgery and stuff, nobody approved
	yea thanks

[00:44]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	were they male and transitioned to female?

[00:44]
Emir:
	yep

[00:44]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	then you should probably call them "she", it's more respectful
	not to police you, i just think pronouns are very important

[00:44]
Emir:
	i did support him, but i think trans is just being delusional
	no offense

[00:45]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i can see why it looks that way, but it's more complicated
	no its fine, im used to debating people with similar opinions

[00:45]
Emir:
	haha i feel so shitty

[00:45]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	you can seriously speak your mind to me, be an asshole if you want

[00:45]
Emir:
	straight white male being racist
	and against multiple genders
	yea but im just being real

[00:46]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i'm not here to tell you youre racist or sexist or queerphobic or whatever, but that you're opinions are not grounded in fact
	and we can all learn

[00:46]
Emir:
	yea it feels good to talk to someone who is not a fucking idiot

[00:46]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	haha thanks lol

[00:46]
Emir:
	if i talked to any girl in my school about something like this they would have blocked me and probably never talk to me again

[00:47]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i used to be a huge racist, and the thing that caused me to change wasn't "oh you just be more kind to black people", it was actually learning about the systemic oppression theyve faced.
	mhm, i know. us girls get really defensive sometimes if were not comfortable, because of past trauma

[00:48]
Emir:
	did you get surgery? if youre comfortable talking about that

[00:48]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	go ahead, ask whatever you like :D
	havent gotten it yet, i'm still thinking about it
	im on hormones tho, and i look like a girl and so on
	my voice doesnt sound 100% female yet but im working on it

[00:48]
Emir:
	man i think im really transphobic

[00:49]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	youre really not
	youre listening to me and youre open to facts, and you lay bare the prejudices you have
	actual transphobes just put their fingers in their ears and look away from all the facts

[00:50]
Emir:
	yea but i think i could never date a trans for example

[00:50]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	and thats not transphobic

[00:50]
Emir:
	yea but also not even befriend really, i feel really weird about it

[00:50]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	well, if they have had surgery, then it kiiiiinda is, but its your choice what to do with your body
	is that because of some factual thing, is it because of a disgust reflex, or from societal pressure?

[00:51]
Emir:
	yep disgust reflex, didnt want to say it directly but yea

[00:51]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	mhm, i feel that
	it's the same thing i felt for myself as a guy
	trust me, if people were as open as you are, the world would be a better place
	seriously, thank you so much for being this open

[00:52]
Emir:
	for example, i felt much more comfortable talking to you while i thought you were just born a female
	now i cant stop thinking about the fact that youre trans
	it may be becuase of bad memories but idk
	no problem

[00:53]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	mhm, because under patriarchy, women are viewed as special objects, puritans who can do no wrong, a status symbol
	i also feel more comfortable around women
	because 80% of the people who hurt me the most were men
	so i dont blame you, but that doesn't change that it's an issue with society, not trans people

[00:54]
Emir:
	thanks for not hating me after the thigns i said haha
	never thought i could be so real to someone and still not get called an asshole

[00:54]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	hate comes from ignorance. i want to educate people
	you are someone who is ignorant who wants to learn
	that isnt hate, its realizing your prejudices
	and its not your fault, it's the fault of society

[00:55]
Emir:
	yea i guess so
	but probably religion too, my family are very religious
	is**

[00:56]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	what religion?

[00:56]
Emir:
	muslim

[00:56]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	okay

[00:56]
Emir:
	explains some of my views i think haha
	even tho i dont believe in god but i cant say that to my family

[00:56]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i dislike organized religion, but i have nothing against the practicers of a religion, as long as they dont use their holy book as a weapon
	mhm, i get that

[00:57]
Emir:
	everyone in my family is religous in fact, if i said i dont believe in all that i dont know how they would react

[00:57]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	i briefly dated a muslim girl whose parents confiscated her phone and basically locked her in her room when they found out she dated a trans woman

[00:57]
Emir:
	but 100% not positive
	oh wow its suddenly 1 am
	i have to go sorry

[00:58]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	some of the nicest people ive ever met are also muslims, ive spoken to preachers and followers alike

[00:58]
Emir:
	was nice talking to you, good night haha

[00:58]
eljesT // Olivia ☭:
	alright, have a good night, comrade!