talking about helluva boss ep 7 - part 3 and owl anon

from /hhg/ Helluva Hotel General #900
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/42826688/#42826749
part 1: https://pastebin.com/RzUBAuCb
part 2: https://pastebin.com/f4Qjz7kh
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Here is my prediction of how part two is gonna escalate and reintroduce the set-up that had been shown in the last few episodes

>Stella is with Octavia (nice, she's actually a parent but I feel like they'll make her out to be bad in some way)
>Stolas is all alone in the mansion
>...as was planned
>perfect place and time for Striker to take care of him
>meantime
>Loona is at the party
>it ain't going so well, she isn't fitting in
>calls Blitzo to pick her up
>Blitzo is moping or asleep
>gets a call from Loona to pick her up
>Immediately gets up, drives to Loona
>Bltitzo picks her up
Alternatively, doesn't hear the phone calling or Loona doesn't even call at all then >>>/co/126720962
>something something
>run into Moxxie&Millie
>???
>Blitzo saves Stolas
>Octavia finds out that her mother is trying to kill her father
>family drama
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That's a pretty good read. I think you're spot on.
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I predict that Asmodous will be taking the reign of "lord" of Lust away from Valentino within the community for a long time now.
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Well, yeah. Asmodous is an actual demon. Valentino is just a sinner who also became an overlord because of his power. He just runs a popular brothel.
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I didn't hate Blitzo before this episode but holy sht, could be have been more of an ungrateful child?

I just didn't care for the episode much in general, the exposition song took up way too much time and nothing really happened.
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Blitzo is in pain and he doesn't have any healthy mechanisms to treat his myriad of problems
Surely you can give him a break?
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But they've done a pss poor job of explaining *why* exactly he's in pain, besides vague implications that "something happened". Even with all that direct, heavy-handed exposition this episode, they *still* didn't manage to say anything we didn't already know. Unless I've missed a truckload of info somewhere, but from my point of view he's just an unlikable, petulant manchild for no reason.
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Moxxie and Millie are such insufferable characters at this point. Almost hope that one of them gets offed by the end of the series or they go through a serious character shift.
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get outta here Ozzie
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The duality of Anon.
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I do like this new episode, even if it's true that they're doing a shabby job of building up on Blitzo's character I find any sort of advancement pleasant. Honestly I'd just like to know where you guys heard that it was Viv who took over writting for this episode, can't seem to be able to find much about it besides the one anon who said it last thread
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>Vortex's girlfriend turns out to be a sxier hellhound
>Sxier than Loona

How would you react?
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Wouldn't be surprised.
Bet she would also be nicer, too, on account of not being a social stunted junke.
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I doubt they'll bother showing his gf now. Unless they use the idea of Blitzo calling her and her not picking up. BUT if they ever do, I think she would be a total Stacy and a total btch, being mean to Loona fr being awkward just so all the fans can have an even bigger bner for her since we saw her being sad. If they go that route, then they will 100% do the predictable thing of Vortex breaking up with the btch cause she was super mean to his new friend for new reason, an he would like go outside to sit alongside Loona on the stairs or something and start chatting with her to cheer her up
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>Vortex breaking up
Don't see it happening, we might not even see her but hear Loona say that she saw her and left
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Also true, honestly with Striker having to show up still I don't think we'll get any more new characters
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>Striker having to show up
what
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Oh come on, it's gonna be the finale, and they set up a villain with an actual ability to kill Stolas, one of their big characters. Striker is gonna come out to 'finish the job' for sure, all that remains to be seen is if he gets defeated, or if someone 'dies' for drama or actually perishes
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My problem is if they are gonna be able to compress all that in a 15 minute episode
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Yup, either they do a special half an hour episode, or we are going to be left on a shtty cliffhanger for season 2 which will come out in the net fking decade due to HH coming out. God I really fking hope we don't get left on a cliffhanger, please no
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>part 2 starts at the party
>Loona is actually having fun, if a bit awkward
>turns out, Vortex's friends and gf are really nice and supportive
>even without Tex telling them, they could tell that Loona's a bit of a mess, so they're very accommodating
>the topic of Blitzo comes up
>Loona lays it into them heavily, bitterly ranting about her adoptive father, which Tex backs up with what little he heard from Verosika
>then Loona spills the beans about Stolas and the grimoire
>ohsht.avi
>one of the others reveals that the Goetia had split up, meaning Blitzo is an actual homewrecker
>Tex's gf frankly ask Loona why she even sticks around him
>Loona can't answer, so they drop the topic, but she's notably more removed from the conversation
>noticing this, Tex takes her aside, and tries to pry a bit further
>Loona reveals that she was the last one to be adopted from her litter to be adopted, due to being the runt
>then Blitzo came in, and immediately adopted her - Hell, he was more cheerful about it than she was
>turns out, for all his faults, Blitzo does TRY to be a good father
>it's more his faults as a person that hold him back
>she can tell that there's a LOT to unpack there, but she honestly feels too ill-equipped to help him, and even scared of what she might find
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I think just showcasing these two seperate pictures is an interesting showcase of how each of the two characters believe their relationship is at.

Stolas appears genuinely happy and in love, whatever his views on their relationship is, it would seem he takes it seriously.
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Conversely Blitzo seems just, tired, scared, withdrawn. People have given better speculations on what the relationship is to Blitzo, but it appears he does not seem at all secure in it.
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I find it amusing that if you zoom in on the 'adoption' picture you can see the adoption certificate is just some copy-pasted text from some United States legal document about adoption.

I guess no one is typically going to see the image unblurred and in full high definition.

Of course now we know that there is some official 'Hellhound Adoption Foundation' which begs the question of who runs it.
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Teenage Fizz looks like a twink
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Maybe that's why he went robotic, to no longer be a twink but instead be a robot some people consider to be hot?
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I think he was horrifically crippled in the past and was turned into a half robot/ half imp entertainer because he caught Ozzie's eye.
>Missing traditional imp horns
>face is all white (scar tissue)
>Has basically no natural limbs left
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fizz is ugly as sin without the clown makeup
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I'm going to guess that if Blitzo and Fizz ever get into an argument that Fizz will trot out the line "your no different from me, we both hooked up with rich demons to get ahead in life".

Fizz just looks like he was far more willing to sell himself out to get ahead.

Though for all we know it was Blitzo who screwed their relationship up.
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>Asmodous will be taking the reign of "lord" of Lust away from Valentino
Anon, Ozzie is one of the Original 7.
He ranks right under Lucifer and Satan.
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I think he meant in the fandom.
They'll stop simping for Valentino, and start simping for Ozzie instead.
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so, where there any sinners in the lust ring or were they all hellborns?

this really brings into question if hellborns willingly hang around in the pride ring, we know at least that IMP advertises there
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I.M.P. advertises there because sinners are their target demographic. Other hellborne either don't have a choice (is a thrall to a higher demon, or stuck up there because of financial reasons - all the destruction must really drive down the property prices), or are there to fk with or profit from the sinners.
As far as I could tell from the episode, there were no Sinners down there, only hellborne.
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How the hell am I supposed to take this jac kass seriously? He looks like a 5 year old that just got told that he cant have McDonalds for dinner.
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>mom says it's my turn on the xbox
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>Stella and Stolas have finally split

Owlnon's crying and shaking and holding himself rn
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I feel for ya, Owlnon
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Octavia is there to comfort him.
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https://twitter.com/vivziepop/status/1454979265112391687?s=21

Val cannot into Lust ring.
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viv is just fking her self over on this
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She better have a really damn good reason for the whole Sinners can't leave Pride thing
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Such a dumb rule that sinners are confined to one ring, makes absolutely no sense.
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>demons hate sinners
>confine into a single-ring ghetto, where they can act like the animals they are
>making their own thralls live there as punishment detail
Dunno, it makes sense to me.
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But the whole point of rings was to assign punishment based upon the sins you committed in life
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so this pretty much further solidifies that sinners cant get to any other rings at all?
fkin over population my ass now fking what else the whole taking people to hell and heaven only covers only most of the western world because the east has their own mythology going around there with there own afterlives and even a rebirth system?
absolute parasites
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>>family drama

the thought ran through my head of something different
>Octavia has a change of heart and decides to go over to Stolas because "something something I can't find you" callback from that one episode.
>Striker goes over to try and kill Stolas
>Something Something Blitz has a change of heart and goes back in time to see Striker going in
>Battle ensues, in the craze and heat of things Striker aims at Stolas
>shot is heard and a Stolas is shown suprised / in shock
>Octavia is standing infront of him and collapses from being shot
>Stolas goes apeshit and petrifies striker
>something something drama about Octavia being hit but not mortaly wounded
>something something set up season 2
At this point It's not beneath Vivz to do a bait and switch (aka. AHA! you all thought we were going to kill Stolas, well there goes all your theory crafting mwahaha)
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>Dunno, it makes sense to me.

Oh yes because I'm sure Lucifer, High Emperor of Hell, is gonna bend the knee to cannon fodder demons.
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Probably because of how the arrangement started, For Blitz it was a 'transactional fking' as he put it, that's how it started, Stolas didn't likely didn't even want love to begin with, he was just desperate for an escape out of a failing relationship and Blitz provided that.

Blitz likely knows that, and still sees it that way, and now his entire business which provides for Moxie, Millie and his adopted daughter Loona is now dependent on being chained to Stolas. We saw that much in the last episode during his acid trip.

Could something better develop from it? Possibly, but there is a lot of nuance we dont see that's merely hinted at, and only now at the end of the series is it starting to touch on Blitz's past relationships
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But the whole point of rings was to assign punishment based upon the sins you committed in life
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>>42832581
Not here, apparently.

>>42833021
>bending the knee
>by shutting them into a ghetto
>where he can watch them suffer, while he just kicks back and relaxes
Do you actually think before you type?
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>He thinks
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VIV IS A FKING TALENTLESS WRITER. REBECCA SUGAR LEVEL CONTRADICTIONS. IF SINNERS CANT LEAVE THE PRIDE RING HOW THE FK DID MAYBERRY GET TO IMP CITY?
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Now this right here makes me want to drop this show alone
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Do it.
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Imp city is in pride and all Sinners are stuck there too
I.M.P. knows that their main demographic for their business are sinners. Seems pretty logical to me to set up shop there.
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You ngers there is no proof that fking IMP city is canonically in pentagram city.
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No, but it could still be in Pride.
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Isn't Imp City in the Pride Ring?
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look at the pic
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There could be some fklery involved with the Rings and Circles.
>7 rings for the seven sins
>each ring has it's circles
Semantics are a good way to lead fans astray, and keep up discussions (or arguments), now aren't they?
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>every ring has there own imp city
>every imp city is has different breed of imps depending on the circle
that... explain some things actually
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This may be me going out on a limb, but it could be the case that the shows writers are rtarded
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>Gluttony at the bottom
Wasn't Sloth at the bottom, according to the timetable?
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Also seen, PRIDE IS UP
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Greed is also not shown in this timetable
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Wait a minute, if Imp City is below the pride ring, then how did Mrs. Mayberry get into IMP's office?
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Viv is a hack
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>white scar tissue
We know imps cannot be burned by regular flames.
...Maybe acid was involved?
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Possibly. I definitely think Fizz got blown apart like Robocop or something though. He looks far, FAR better as a clown, anyway.
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Well, the proof is that Maybary and other Sinners got to I.M.P, thus Pentagram and Imp city must be a pride.
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Apparently but why would a fking city be inside of a fking city? Pentagram city isn't within IMP city and I doubt the ring holds both. Extermination day would conflict to much
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Look at the colors of the elevator's clock display.
Red is Pride - I think the lit up arrow on the Schedule just shows that the Elevator has just arrived.
Lust is blue, and it's the third form the bottom.
Envy is purple, and it's the second from the bottom.
Sloth is pink, and is on the other end of the display, opposite to red (Pride), meaning Sloth is the bottom level.
Wrath is orange, and it's the second from the left (right underneath Pride).
We know that Greed is Green (since Loo Loo Land was a creation of Mammon, and Mammon's the prince of Greed, and that episode featured a green sky).
That means that Gluttony is (correct to Biblical/Apocryphal/Danteian canon) the Third Ring (Yellow).
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>>42833679
>>42833623
oooooh man
That's cool. Though wouldn't it make more sense for each rings to have it's own cities like in Lust a Succubus/Incubus city or something. But I think you both are onto something nonetheless.

>>42833776
Why would they be inside each other? They could just be next to each other
Though this
>Extermination day would conflict too much
Is a good point.