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  1. Posted byu/BobPoopyNoopees
  2. 1 day ago
  3. Why I switched to Windows.
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  5. Wait, before you downvote and immediately scroll down, hear me out. First of all the Linux kernel not a bad base for operating systems. I believe it can compete with Windows, it just that in my opinion, the reasons for not switching out way the reasons for switching. Now I will list off reasons for switching to a Linux based operating system.
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  8. 1.) Ease of Use
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  10. In my opinion, Linux is not easier to use. Here's why.
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  12. 1a.) "My grandma uses Linux!"
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  14. Your grandma is most likely only going to send emails and do work. She PROBABLY won't need to even install other applications.
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  16. 1b.) "Most of the time you don't need the terminal in things like Ubuntu."
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  18. If you want to install programs outside the store not in a preinstalled repository, or need to do any type of troubleshooting, you will need to use the terminal.
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  20. 1c.) "Windows crashes more."
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  22. I can't deny this one, but it is much easier to troubleshoot your problems in a GUI.
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  24. And lastly,
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  26. 1d.) "Command lines are better than GUIs."
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  28. The reason that we all still don't use command line operating only systems is that GUIs provide a better UX (user experience). A UI should be intuitive, not something you should take classes on. When you want to enter a sub-command, you have to know exactly what to type on Linux. With GUI interfaces like Windows, it's all laid out in front of you, and all you have to do is click.
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  31. 2.) Privacy
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  33. While I won't deny that base Windows 10 is a privacy nightmare, that is an open source program called PrivacyFix10 that fixes all of that. Installing a whole new OS to solve a program an app can fix is like getting a ring stuck on your finger and cutting your arm off.
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  36. 3.) Cost
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  38. While it may be a hassle to pay full price to get Windows 10, there are 3 ways to get Windows 10 near or close to free legally.
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  40. 3a.) Buying a prebuilt.
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  42. If you do decide to buy a prebuilt, the manufacturer buys Windows keys in bulk and give it with your PC at a low cost.
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  44. 3b.) Discount key sites
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  46. This is the most common solution for people that build their PCs, and the website Kinguin is very reliable.
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  48. 3c.) Not activating Windows
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  50. This is the best solution, since it's free, legal, and barely hinders your experience. The only thing it does is disable personalization settings in the menu (with if you know Windows isn't saying much.)
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  53. Especially if you have to deal with things such as lack of application support on top of this, I don't think it's worth the switch.
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  56. Leave comments down below to get a discussion going.
  57. 27 comments
  58. 24% Upvoted
  59. Comment asBobPoopyNoopees
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  62. level 1
  63. CensoredName
  64. 3 points ·
  65. 1 day ago
  66.  
  67. I don't want to say to much but what will say is I would never switch back. In my opinion it's like cars I would much rather drive a standard. I feel I am driving the car, the car is not driving me around. The os I use I put everything on my computer that I want there. I think Ubuntu and other big distros are just as bad. Just cause I hate windows doesn't mean you need to or that it changes my opinion on someone at all. At the end of the day use what your comfortable with. Who gives a fuck, you know.
  68. level 2
  69. CensoredName
  70. 1 point ·
  71. 23 hours ago
  72.  
  73. Why are you lumping Ubuntu in with Windows? Ubuntu is what I use. Do you (or anyone) have a better recommendation?
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  75. I chose it because I came from Windows, it's easy to learn, it's FOSS, it's easy for me to introduce to other people and for them to pick up on, and most importantly it usually just works and works well.
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  77. I'm totally open to changing but those are the metrics that drove me to Ubuntu. Do you think there are different distros that would work better for what I'm looking for?
  78. level 3
  79. BobPoopyNoopees
  80. 2 points ·
  81. 23 hours ago
  82.  
  83. Mint is more like Windows than Ubuntu, and Lubuntu is much more lightweight.
  84. level 2
  85. BobPoopyNoopees
  86. 0 points ·
  87. 23 hours ago
  88.  
  89. I understand, and if you are already comfortable with Linux, you do you. What I am trying do is try to persuade people who comfortable with Linux yet or are going to.
  90. level 1
  91. CensoredName
  92. 3 points ·
  93. 1 day ago
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  95. At the end of the day you are the one using the OS so it comes down to what do you prefer, like or want. Good for you. I hope some day you give Linux another try!
  96. level 2
  97. BobPoopyNoopees
  98. 1 point ·
  99. 23 hours ago
  100.  
  101. Thank you for the nice comment!
  102. level 1
  103. CensoredName
  104. 3 points ·
  105. 1 day ago
  106.  
  107. Licensing. Please don’t confuse what works with what is legal. Not activating windows and having an unlicensed copy is actually illegal. Point 2 about the sites selling those keys. Nearly every one I’ve seen is for OEM keys and they are also not legal to use unless you are a hardware provider selling it with the hardware by prior agreement. They’re no better than pirate bay legally speaking. So to get windows legally for “free” is to buy it with hardware where it’s built into the cost as by point 1
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  109. Personally I find more crashes and issues in Linux desktop than windows 10 and don’t have Linux as my daily driver. I’m sure that will be my fault somehow. That being said I absolutely love what people do with Linux. The ethos behind it and the heart. The option to have a very lightweight private desktop is great too. I do not like the neckbearding part of the community.
  110. level 2
  111. BobPoopyNoopees
  112. 0 points ·
  113. 23 hours ago
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  115. Thank you for informing me! While the websites might be illegal, using an unactivated license is legal. If it wasn't, Microsoft wouldn't give you the feature. Tbh I love the Linux community too. It has helped me on many occasions. Also, I am saving up for a Chromebook and I will install Lubuntu on that because it couldn't handle Windows, and I find lightweight OS's useful too.
  116. level 3
  117. CensoredName
  118. 2 points ·
  119. 23 hours ago
  120.  
  121. Again please don’t confuse what works with what is legal. Microsoft requires you to have a valid licence to use the product. Inactivated software is not the intended use. You are required to activate it and buy a license.
  122. I work in corporate IT in a Microsoft house. Microsoft let’s you do lots of stuff that’s against the license terms. It’s honour system for most of it. I’m not saying you have to. I’m saying you have to to be legal. Whether that bothers you or not is a personal choice but in terms of the information what you are saying is incorrect. You are not licensed and are pirating.
  123. level 4
  124. BobPoopyNoopees
  125. -1 points ·
  126. 23 hours ago
  127.  
  128. I don't think this argument is going anywhere. Microsoft gives you permission to not activate Windows, therefore making it not piracy. If they didn't give the go-ahead, it would be piracy.
  129. level 5
  130. CensoredName
  131. 2 points ·
  132. 23 hours ago
  133.  
  134. Where’s the go ahead written down ?
  135. level 6
  136. BobPoopyNoopees
  137. -1 points ·
  138. 23 hours ago
  139.  
  140. https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwin10faq.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2F4.jpg&f=1
  141. level 7
  142. CensoredName
  143. 2 points ·
  144. 23 hours ago
  145.  
  146. Literally says “do this later”. Not “do this never”. I.e. you do not have go ahead never to activate.
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  148. Here the Microsoft official site. Notice how it never mentions not licensing and not activating as a permanent option. Because it isn’t. Software requires licensing. You are avoiding checking your license status with Microsoft by not activating. I.e. Avoidance of checking the speed limit doesn’t mean you’re not speeding. It is a fact you are incorrect and pirating. By accident I don’t care. But for anyone reading this yes it’s easy to use the software for free. No it is not legal.
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  150. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12440/windows-10-activation
  151. level 1
  152. CensoredName
  153. 3 points ·
  154. 23 hours ago
  155.  
  156. If you want to use Windows then use Windows. I don't think anyone other than you is heavily invested in which OS you use (ditto for which OS I use, etc).
  157. level 2
  158. BobPoopyNoopees
  159. 1 point ·
  160. 23 hours ago
  161.  
  162. And if you want to use Linux use Linux.
  163. level 1
  164. CensoredName
  165. 2 points ·
  166. 1 day ago
  167.  
  168. I consider myself as pretty knowledgeable about Linux and I contributed to few distributions in the past.
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  170. Today I am running MacOS for the reason you talk about. I love Linux, use it daily at work, but don’t use it at home because it needs too much attention now when you want to play a bit with the system.
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  172. Meanwhile, something I cannot deny is Windows progress in term of features. Today, it’s for me the most polished and featured OS and the fact they improve their system a lot every 6 months is a good addition.
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  174. But I won’t do the switch because until Microsoft allows me to easily disable all trackers, I won’t consider it trustable.
  175. level 2
  176. BobPoopyNoopees
  177. 1 point ·
  178. 23 hours ago
  179.  
  180. here's the link to PrivacyFix10. https://mega.nz/#!3Vx2HYTI!BHB7DSsEYKbGhOYSym_hbperKhYii44dgu-_lWwSIG0 Here's the source code: http://ge.tt/96swt4O2/v/0
  181. level 1
  182. CensoredName
  183. 2 points ·
  184. 23 hours ago
  185. · edited 23 hours ago
  186.  
  187. Point 1. is entirely subjective, and arguably straw-man arguments. Linux wins your points 2. and 3., which you chose to raise.
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  189. You should post this in /r/Windows, /r/Windows10, and /r/pcgaming.
  190. level 2
  191. BobPoopyNoopees
  192. 1 point ·
  193. 23 hours ago
  194.  
  195. My post is related to Linux. i want to here others opinions, not just have a Windows circle jerk. I agree that 1. is my opinion, but how are 2. and 3. "wrong"?
  196. level 3
  197. CensoredName
  198. 1 point ·
  199. 23 hours ago
  200.  
  201. I didn't say they were wrong; I said that in 2. and 3. Linux comes out on top.
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  203. Saying that Windows can be almost as good as Linux if you do something complicated to fix it, and Linux can be almost as easy to license as Linux if you go out of your way to buy a gray-market license key, tends to really drive home how good Linux is on those two counts.
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  205. Linux may be weaker in other areas, but on 2. and especially 3, it's hard for the average person to beat. Maybe if you're in an enterprise with KMS licensing Windows is almost as easy to license as Linux, and if you've licensed 10 Enterprise or 10 LTSB you can turn off various telemetry and it's almost as "private" as Linux, but those aren't easy for the individual user. They're big holes in the narrative that Windows is easy.
  206. level 4
  207. BobPoopyNoopees
  208. 1 point ·
  209. 11 hours ago
  210.  
  211. PrivacyFix10 is pretty easy, and I do agree that Linux is better in 2. and 3., all i'm sayinf is that they aren't reasons to switch if you are planning on getting it.
  212. level 1
  213. CensoredName
  214. 2 points ·
  215. 1 day ago
  216.  
  217. Good for you.
  218. level 1
  219. CensoredName
  220. 1 point ·
  221. 23 hours ago
  222.  
  223. Good riddance!
  224. level 1
  225. CensoredName
  226. 1 point ·
  227. 23 hours ago
  228.  
  229. I use Linux everyday but when I just want to browse the internet and watch videos, or audio recording, I stick to my Mac. It’s just way easier.
  230. level 2
  231. BobPoopyNoopees
  232. 1 point ·
  233. 23 hours ago
  234.  
  235. You do you, I was just raising my side of the story.
  236. level 3
  237. CensoredName
  238. 1 point ·
  239. 20 hours ago
  240.  
  241. I was agreeing on the Linux thing not comparing windows and Mac just to clear
  242. level 1
  243. CensoredName
  244. 1 point ·
  245. 23 hours ago
  246.  
  247. This post has been removed for violating Reddiquette., trolling users, or otherwise poor discussion - r/Linux asks all users follow Reddiquette. Reddiquette is ever changing, so a revisit once in awhile is recommended.
  248.  
  249. Rule:
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  251. Reddiquette, trolling, or poor discussion - r/Linux asks all users follow Reddiquette. Reddiquette is ever changing, so a revisit once in awhile is recommended. Top violations of this rule are trolling, starting a flamewar, or not "Remembering the human" aka being hostile or incredibly impolite.
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