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  3. hey everybody final thoughts time for
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  7. Agri from designer Mike Keller who was
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  11. one of the co designers of lagron ha
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  15. game I did a run-through for four years
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  19. ago that just absolutely floored me and
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  23. Jen it was such an amazing brilliant
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  27. economic style gyro and Mike is back
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  31. with I mean I assume this is gonna be
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  35. his masterpiece I mean there is so much
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  39. here this game is so big in ideas in
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  43. gameplay and just in physical board
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  47. space it's absolutely ridiculous how
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  51. much this gobbles up but that's because
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  55. there is so much you can do in this game
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  59. I would not say that the board the
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  63. brilliantly lovely Illustrated board
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  67. from michael Menzel oh my gosh is such a
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  71. one of the nicest boards of the year
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  75. uh-huh is chock full of stuff but it
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  79. needs me because there's so much you can
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  83. do this game is at its heart a sandbox
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  87. game there's a million things you want
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  91. to do there's a million different ways
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  95. to do every one of those things you want
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  99. to do and success at this game is all
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  103. gonna be about who is best at navigating
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  107. all the crazy circuitous routes to get
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  111. done what you need to get done now I
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  115. have actually in the past talked about
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  119. how gen I are generally not big fans of
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  123. sandbox games but I feel like I should
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  127. probably explain myself a little bit
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  131. more here um and I'll put my laptop away
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  135. because I'm not actually using this
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  139. right now regardless so a sandbox game
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  143. like say caverna that just says you know
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  147. what sit down and do whatever you want
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  151. come up with a strategy and see if you
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  155. can figure out how to do it will give
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  159. you a million different tools to
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  163. complete whatever strategy you want but
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  167. it's up to you to come up with it that
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  171. something doesn't sit well with me and
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  175. Jen the thing that's so sharp about this
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  179. is there is so much variable set up the
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  183. way the river gets populated every time
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  187. you play with such a radically different
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  191. assortment of notables who will give you
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  195. access to really cool gamebreaking
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  199. powers that you'll really push you in
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  203. different directions and make your
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  207. experience every time you play you're
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  211. gonna go so so differently um is such a
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  215. big big deal but then on top of that
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  219. these independent agents the merchant
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  223. and the Builder the way they just move
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  227. around with a die roll and they end up
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  231. creating all these you know
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  235. unpredictable opportunities you think
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  239. okay I know how I'm gonna do this I'm
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  243. gonna do this then this and this well
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  247. got the mover just moved over there the
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  251. Builder if I use him because I'll be
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  255. able to piggyback off of that I won't be
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  259. quite as efficient but that means I save
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  263. an action so I can do this other thing
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  267. this game just makes your brain explode
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  271. with calculable probability paths of
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  275. what is the smartest way to get stuff
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  279. done because unlike say well I mentioned
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  283. auricular career so I'll say Greek law
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  287. unlike a really really tight sharp razor
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  291. thin margin worker placement game like
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  295. Agricola where you know what there is
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  299. you know what you do and if you can't
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  303. get this one thing your whole plan falls
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  307. apart oh no now I gotta go and find some
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  311. other way to do that's never gonna
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  315. happen to you in this game because
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  319. there's a million different get what you
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  323. need to do are you gonna chase upgrades
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  327. given you are you gonna chase notary's
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  331. to get away you need to do are you gonna
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  335. piggyback off the actions of other
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  339. players to get you to do well the things
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  343. I am so impressed by in here is the
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  347. amount of player interaction so much
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  351. interaction that is cool and positive as
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  355. opposed to oh look at ways I can destroy
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  359. you and steal all your stuff so many
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  363. opportunities to piggyback off of other
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  367. players oh are you converting all your
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  371. wood into lumber all I think I'll
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  375. piggyback off that too you'll get a
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  379. benefit I'll get a benefit I scratch
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  383. your back you scratch mine oh I really
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  387. need to go there's your guy there well
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  391. I'll tell you what I'll just go on ahead
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  395. and bump him and here's a little bit of
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  399. favor for you that favor is really gonna
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  403. help you down the road um really
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  407. wonderful beautiful gameplay in that
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  411. regard you know and so it becomes your
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  415. players just become your your opponents
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  419. I should say become another cog in the
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  423. beautiful clockwork machine you're
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  427. trying to build from round to round to
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  431. figure out how to achieve your goals
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  435. those goals you know chosen from several
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  439. that were set out for you as part of set
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  443. up I'm really impressed by this game it
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  447. is it's a beautiful production the you
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  451. know that the big emperor's palace it
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  455. didn't have to be a nice plane you know
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  459. a rising plane with all the pieces that
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  463. have the little cut so they all still
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  467. align I say could've just been a flat
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  471. thing and you put some cubes on ah but
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  475. you know because the board is so big I I
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  479. can imagine they did that because
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  483. players at the other table and I'll be
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  487. able to see it so they had to kind of
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  491. raise it up because the game is so big I
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  495. just think it looks really nice it's a
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  499. very very evocative you know the way the
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  503. Emperor
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  507. it's on high on his throne of looking
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  511. down on everybody it helps the
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  515. atmosphere of the game that's it I will
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  519. say I know a lot of people complain
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  523. about the Emperor's Palace um that it's
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  527. a bit too rickety and fiddly I'll be
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  531. honest to us we didn't notice any
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  535. problems with you know accidentally
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  539. bumping the table anything falling over
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  543. but there is one thing if you're kind of
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  547. butters fingery and you're trying to go
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  551. and pick up your thing you might
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  555. inadvertently knock over somebody else's
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  559. pieces and that can be kind of obnoxious
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  563. because oh wait did I what work was I on
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  567. this line or this line that is kind of a
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  571. problem well I love the presentation I
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  575. just wish that instead of these kind of
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  579. long skinny pieces you put in there they
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  583. were just little short squat pieces just
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  587. so they wouldn't fall over if I
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  591. accidentally bumped them with the with
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  595. my shirt sleeve or something like that a
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  599. minor complaint in what is otherwise a
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  603. really lovely presentation style but
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  607. getting back to the gameplay which is
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  611. really what makes this game special it's
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  615. it's again that wide open there are a
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  619. million different ways you could do
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  623. stuff but every time you decide how am I
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  627. going to go about achieving this goal
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  631. you're denying yourself the opportunity
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  635. to do other things and balancing all
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  639. that stuff is just it's an incredible
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  643. fun and wonderfully interactive puzzle
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  647. bhangra and that's it folks thanks for
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  651. watching hope you have a very very nice
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  655. day talk to there so long goodbye
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