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Brief chat with CPW about Minecraft Forge development 9/15/2015

Sep 15th, 2015
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  1. * [cpw] ([Host mask redacted before hosting via pastebin]): cpw
  2. * [cpw] #factorio @#minecraftforge
  3. * [cpw] anarchy.esper.net :Destroy All White Permanents (Strasbourg, France)
  4. * [cpw] idle 00:00:06, signon: Fri Sep 04 08:21:37
  5. * [cpw] is logged in as cpw
  6. * [cpw] End of WHOIS list.
  7. * Twisted_Code recognizes you
  8. <cpw> lol
  9. * cpw doesn't recognize Twisted_Code
  10. <cpw> ;)
  11. <Twisted_Code> I wouldn't expect you to.
  12. <cpw> hehe it's ok
  13. <Twisted_Code> How is Forge development going? Just curious
  14. <cpw> we're fighting the good fight
  15. <cpw> myself and lex are battling fernflower atm
  16. <Twisted_Code> fernflower?
  17. <cpw> 1.8.3+ have added the full LVT including generics into the bytecode
  18. <cpw> fernflower makes a right royal mess of trying to read it
  19. <cpw> fernflower is the decompiler we use to turn the java bytecode back into source code
  20. <cpw> so we've been trying to fix it, and make it work better with the new information
  21. <Twisted_Code> And LVT = what?
  22. <cpw> until we do, we're not releasing a version
  23. <cpw> it's bloody hard work
  24. <cpw> LVT == Local Variable Table
  25. <Twisted_Code> ah
  26. <cpw> the compiler can optionally put information about locally used variables in the bytecode
  27. <cpw> it used to be stripped..
  28. <Twisted_Code> sounds interesting, and frustrating at the same time
  29. <cpw> oh yeah
  30. <cpw> it'll be a huge leap forward, once we have it fully working
  31. <cpw> we're about 90% of the way there now
  32. <Twisted_Code> I'd probably be using forge all the time, but recently acquired a broken spine from a car accident, so Minecraft becomes a bit challenging... factorio is fine though!
  33. <cpw> ah
  34. <cpw> tbh i find factorio the harder to control myself ;)
  35. <Twisted_Code> Anyway, good luck with that decompiler. Teach it (the computer/the compiler) who's boss.
  36. <Twisted_Code> decompiler*
  37. <cpw> lol thanks
  38. <cpw> we're fighting the good fight. slowly but surely, reducing the bug count
  39. <cpw> we'll get there. not fast, but we're still moving
  40. <Twisted_Code> programmer.getAuthority() > computer.getAuthority() should ALWAYS return true!
  41. <Twisted_Code> :P
  42. <cpw> hehe :D
  43. <Twisted_Code> My if I copy paste this conversation to share with some friends? My initial assumption is that you wouldn't, but I'd like to be sure.
  44. <Twisted_Code> Mind if I*
  45. <Twisted_Code> (sorry, Dragon NaturallySpeaking screwed up)
  46. <cpw> not at all
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