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new earlygame+dragonite skip?

Jul 5th, 2016
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  1. Dragonite-less+early fossils+late charmander route idea
  2.  
  3. To do the new charmander LG, we need to either keep a protein from the shopping trip, or obtain 1 at some point later.
  4. This route explores the idea of replacing the pokedolls with the protein, though revive and burn heal are also options.
  5.  
  6. Shopping
  7. 7/8 balls
  8. 1 para heal
  9.  
  10. 1 super potion
  11. 99 great ball
  12. 99 Super repel
  13. 93 Revive
  14. 1 Awakening
  15. 1 burn heal
  16. 1 ice heal
  17. 5 Water Stone
  18. 34 Fire Stone
  19. 4 Leaf stone
  20. 3 Thunder Stone
  21. 1 protein
  22. 1 hp up
  23. 1 iron
  24. 1 Calcium
  25.  
  26. TM-->Calcium-->Badges
  27. Ultra ball-->j.(options)
  28. j.(rival name)-->Tileset
  29. Bike-->Calcium
  30. poke balls-->revive
  31. Burn Heal-->Cancel
  32. Walk
  33. Set options
  34. Toss options
  35. TID 2-->Master Balls
  36. Rare Candy-->j.
  37. Toss Candy
  38. Toss iron
  39. revive-->TID Master Balls
  40. Teleport
  41.  
  42. deposit super potion
  43. Deposit 16 great balls
  44. Deposit Candy stack
  45. Same T-Flies
  46.  
  47. coin case-->Cancel
  48. Ice heal-->Poke Flute-->TM40
  49.  
  50. Great balls-->Lower Candy stack
  51. Same as usual
  52.  
  53. Low Candy stack-->Old amber-->j. (toss 27)
  54.  
  55. Helix fossil-->Bicycle-->Old amber
  56.  
  57. Awakening-->Old amber
  58. toss 12 max elixir
  59. Master Balls-->soulbadge
  60. toss 248 j.
  61. Walk 3 up 1 left
  62.  
  63. Fossil manip
  64. follow poke dolls
  65. toss 1 after last swap
  66.  
  67. 3 right
  68. toss 3 from tileset, bike out
  69. Bike to Gym door, use PC (may be faster to use pc in center) (withdraw pikachu if not already in party)
  70. soda-->dolls
  71. eevees
  72. soda-->dolls
  73. After entering Mansion, swap j. to warping, toss 38
  74. swap moon stones for hp up
  75. Evolve eevees+pikachu
  76. After mansion exit building to safari
  77. dig+fly to celadon
  78. LG for dratini
  79. Change boxes after OWRB (2 in party)
  80. Old man,
  81.  
  82. Thunderstone-->Money
  83. TM-->TM
  84. Ultra ball to warping, toss 8
  85.  
  86. electabuzz
  87. exit to coast
  88. tentacool after coast (may not go to party :( )
  89. Super repels-->9f
  90. Helix fossil-->Master balls
  91.  
  92. HM04-->Master balls
  93. TM37-->4-->Fullrestore
  94.  
  95. Old amber-->4
  96. Soulbadge-->Ball
  97.  
  98. LG for venonat on route 11
  99. evolve gloom to plume here
  100. Standard route 3 (no charmander)
  101. Standard forest
  102. Do Poliwag LG from diglett's cave
  103. Do charmander LG after trade (swap protein, ropes to 15, ultra balls to 14, swap to tileset, to pokedex, ropes to 2/3, swap protein)
  104. Ball Magmar
  105. Crazywarp (see below)
  106. Catch 3 balls, catch drowsee and sandshrew if needed, OWRB from hitmonchan
  107. Fly to Celadon
  108.  
  109. Game corner
  110. Snorlax
  111. LGs (after rhyhorn, move 1 down before s&q, saves a jack)
  112. Warp to V Road
  113. Rest is standard route
  114.  
  115. Pros:
  116. Removes j. from options earlier
  117. Less scrolling for moon stones, eeveelution and electabuzz
  118. 1/2 less PC uses
  119. Nicer LG item order
  120. Less party swaps due to no dragonite
  121. Saves menu flash for horsea
  122. Lower chance of level 5 tentacool
  123. Can skip box change at mt. moon
  124. Faster charmander LG
  125. Can ball magmar trainer
  126.  
  127. Cons:
  128. Lower chance of redbarring tentacool
  129. Slight time loss in Crazywarp
  130. Catching vulpix but not fearow pre-crazywarp is awkward
  131. Route probably doesn't actually work for some dumb reason
  132.  
  133. Other options:
  134. A better stack of cascadebadges or boulderbadges would be nice
  135. If all 3 caught on coast, may be worth doing tentacool LG (otherwise have to scroll through entire box to get it later)
  136. Could skip repels on coast, and do all the Cinnibar stuff in one trip (Fossils-->eevee-->Coast-->Mansion)
  137. Crazywarp can now be done at any point between Buying magikarp and krazywarp (later if have vulpix)
  138. could force early vulpix and switch crazywarp and krazywarp (route 11 from v road, route 21 from tower)
  139.  
  140.  
  141. Crazywarp strats:
  142. Need alakazam and vulpix (and fearow): Alakazam LG, walk to tile 2 left of channeler, bonk for encounter, burn heal to x pos
  143. Need alakazam, not vulpix: Alakazam LG, walk to 1 right of current tile, bonk for encounter (this may be worth it if need vulpix as well)
  144. Need alakazam and fearow, not vulpix
  145. Have alakazam, need vulpix (and fearow): walk 1 down, bonk for encounter, burn heal to x pos
  146. Have alakazam and vulpix: walk 2 up, bonk for encounter
  147.  
  148. If you need fearow but not vulpix, do the vulpix starts and hope vulpix doesn't see you.
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