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- from /hhg/ Helluva Hotel General #889
- QOTT: Why haven't you read the Bibble yet Anon?
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- >QOTT: Why haven't you read the Bibble yet Anon?
- A long time ago I started reading the Bible because "Why the hell does everyone I know happen to be so into this Christianity?" So, I started with Genesis and thought, "This God dude is kind of evil" and was put off by it.
- Someone later told me that I shouldn't pay attention to the Old Testament, that the New Testament was about a Ghandi-esque way to show love to all, etc.. And the first thing I ran across was The Cleansing of the Temple. What the flying fk? The rest of the New Testament made zero sense to me. I kept thinking back to the Cleansing and how it seemed to completely break character with what Jesus was supposedly all about. I kept getting told that I was just 'unlucky'/'read things in the wrong order'/'did not have the requisite faith' or something before I basically came to the conclusion that, "Maybe it's not me that's the problem here...".
- I recently (as in the past couple days) discovered Marcionism. Where the Old Testament is treated as being written by Satan, and the Cleansing of the Temple apparently never happened according to the Marcion version of the gospels. I'm intrigued by it. It seems to be a lot more consistent. I have to wonder why it never really took off.
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- >I have to wonder why it never really took off.
- I never hear of this before, I want to know/hear more of this.
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- I don't know a whole lot about it. I just ran into it myself, like I said. Obligatory Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism
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- thanks anon
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- >I kept thinking back to the Cleansing and how it seemed to cmopletely break character with what Jesus was supposedly all about.
- At one point Jesus tells his disciples to sell their cloaks to by swords.
- It's perfectly in character.
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- Man, the more I hear about this Jesus guy, the less I care for him!
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- Why?
- Because he's not a complete pacifist like everyone thinks he is?
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- (I'm making an old Norm Macdonald joke)
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- I prefer the one about the drunk guy winning a turtle at the bar
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- That's a p. good one.
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- >Cleansing of the Temple
- Why would this possibly upset you? He chased out thieves, loiterers in the house of God who would disgrace the word of God with their selfishness and greed.
- It's completely "in character".
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- Imagine if some guys after church were closing out trades between each other. Then a fking wackjob comes in with a whip chasing people out. That guy is not the son of God, he's a schizophrenic wackjob.
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- So you'd prefer it if junkies started selling drugs in your local church?
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- >Come back from holiday from Europe.
- >Got some Euros left over in my pocket.
- >After church some guy is planning to go to Europe.
- >We exchange EUR and USD--changing money _just like in the story_, I'm pretty sure I'm not making a strawman here.
- >Doomfg busts down the door.
- >Quotes the Cleansing of the Temple at us. We're the ones being incredibly disrespectful against God. Markets are the devil.
- >Beats us senseless.
- >Later, DF Goes up to heaven.
- >Jesus pounds his fist, "Man, good job with those jerks in the church."
- ???
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- >We exchange EUR and USD--changing money _just like in the story_,
- It makes mention of them selling Oxen and goats. They were merchants selling livestock and other such things treating the temple like a common barn.
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