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  1. [14:44:47] <Arwen> it's like how japs don't keep source code around because "open source is for homos"
  2. [14:45:04] <junh1024-XD> lolwut
  3. [14:45:16] <prunedtree> for asharp it was conscious
  4. [14:45:23] <Arwen> junh1024-XD, have you ever seen an open source jap application
  5. [14:45:34] <junh1024-XD> idk
  6. [14:45:37] <prunedtree> made sure there was only a huge mess of macro-generated asm left
  7. [14:45:41] * Kovensky points at most of ruby stuff
  8. [14:45:49] <prunedtree> so I felt okay releasing it `open assembly'
  9. [14:46:06] <prunedtree> didn't made much difference with binary
  10. [14:46:13] <junh1024-XD> inb3 open bianry
  11. [14:46:19] <prunedtree> but the opensource zealots were happy
  12. [14:46:49] <prunedtree> I released everything open binary. ie made no attempt to obfuscate the binary code (you could if you wanted)
  13. [14:47:23] <Arwen> how? it would get slower
  14. [15:00:10] <awvnx_> so, i don't understand why there's such a large japanese avisynth community?
  15. [15:00:18] <awvnx_> seen a bunch of plugins written by them
  16. [15:01:00] <Kovensky> you mean aviutl
  17. [15:26:10] <Arwen> ^
  18. [15:26:22] <Arwen> japs don't use gaijin technologies
  19. [15:26:30] <Arwen> gotta do it all in house and make it sekrit and proprietary
  20. [15:26:40] <Arwen> (then add region locks to keep dirty white trash from touching it)
  21. [15:47:02] <prunedtree> what makes me really sad is that it would be easy to think that you're being ironic or making a joke
  22. [15:47:03] <prunedtree> alas
  23. [15:48:19] <prunedtree> although sometimes I think it's not so much racism, more fear that foreigners might come in their communities and attempt to communicate. that scares a lot of japanese to death
  24. [15:48:34] <junh1024-XD> becauuse,,,?
  25. [15:48:45] <prunedtree> unpossible
  26. [15:48:48] <prunedtree> inconceivable
  27. [15:49:04] <prunedtree> can't be done
  28. [15:49:13] <prunedtree> better make sure to lock the foreigners out so it never happens
  29. [15:49:51] Nosomy (Nosomy@Rizon-6F498585.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) is now known as Nosomy|busy
  30. [15:50:40] <junh1024-XD> nonono
  31. [15:50:48] <junh1024-XD> foreigners might come in their communities and attempt to communicate. that scares a lot of japanese to death <?
  32. [15:56:36] <prunedtree> what I said
  33. [15:56:42] <awvnx_> they dont want to expose their bad english
  34. [15:56:53] <awvnx_> not like the foreigners have good jp typically anyway
  35. [15:56:56] <prunedtree> I think it's not just that. it's cultural too
  36. [15:57:02] <awvnx_> yeah
  37. [15:57:14] <prunedtree> like they feel their english in `not worthy'
  38. [15:57:53] <prunedtree> like I know some japanese that were actually pretty decent. understood english well... but not only had they zero confidence speaking it, it wasn't so much shame as a kind of idea that they couldn't do it
  39. [15:58:11] <awvnx_> yeah but the only way to learn how to speak it is to actually be around natives
  40. [15:58:25] <prunedtree> I don't pretend to understand the japanese psyche, but I knew very nice japanese people that had those problems
  41. [15:58:38] <awvnx_> heh
  42. [15:58:43] <awvnx_> the ones that are good at english are nice though
  43. [15:58:45] <prunedtree> and then would go very passive aggressive to avoid communication
  44. [15:58:54] <prunedtree> in a way that could appear to be racist/xenophobic
  45. [16:01:11] <junh1024-XD> i also herd the english taught in schools is only 2 pass tests?
  46. [16:01:22] <junh1024-XD> possibly like, ntrly useful irl
  47. [16:08:34] <awvnx_> well
  48. [16:08:43] <awvnx_> you probably took some foreign language class in high school as well
  49. [16:08:59] <awvnx_> and see how that turned out
  50. [16:12:46] <junh1024-XD> idk, i also learnt some from fanshrubs
  51. [16:38:29] <prunedtree> all things considered, the average japanese speaks better english than the average english native speaker speaks japanese
  52. [17:10:49] <Lord> prunedtree: I'd like to say "well duh" but it is really hard to tell based on what you said
  53. [17:10:56] <Lord> i.e. what you can actually see is the opposite
  54. [17:11:10] <Lord> those who do dare to try english, are beyond awful at it
  55. [17:11:27] <Lord> to the level of "oh please just stop already"
  56. [17:11:36] <Lord> tl;dr engrish
  57. [17:12:19] <Lord> but well I guess that's more like about equal than opposite
  58. [17:13:08] <Lord> [02:43:54] <Arwen> junh1024-XD, have you ever seen an open source jap application <- hey you have sf.jp
  59. [17:13:33] <Lord> and actually I've seen plenty of shift-jis code
  60. [17:19:30] Nosomy|busy (Nosomy@Rizon-6F498585.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) is now known as Nosomy
  61. [17:21:25] GuSTaVauM|OFF (GuSTaVauM@powered.by.x264.and.avs) is now known as GuSTaVauM
  62. [17:23:09] <junh1024-XD> <mfw crystaldiskinfo has source
  63. [17:24:37] <junh1024-XD> idk, i've seen some JPs with good eng & bad eng, and some with none
  64. [17:28:31] <junh1024-XD> svn has no files, but zipdrops >0
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