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  8. LEWIS PULLER:
  9. Whenever this war is over,
  10.  
  11. 2
  12. 00:00:09,083 --> 00:00:12,041
  13. the victory will have been won
  14. by you,
  15.  
  16. 3
  17. 00:00:12,542 --> 00:00:16,166
  18. with the uniform you wear,
  19. the chevrons on your sleeves,
  20.  
  21. 4
  22. 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:19,333
  23. and the instincts in your gut,
  24. and the blood on your boots.
  25.  
  26. 5
  27. 00:00:20,417 --> 00:00:22,709
  28. We will sail
  29. across God's vast ocean,
  30.  
  31. 6
  32. 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:27,041
  33. where we will meet our enemy
  34. and make the difference
  35.  
  36. 7
  37. 00:00:27,125 --> 00:00:30,208
  38. between freedom of the world
  39. and its enslavement.
  40.  
  41. 8
  42. 00:00:35,458 --> 00:00:37,792
  43. JOSEPH LIEBGOTT: You fought
  44. bravely for your country.
  45.  
  46. 9
  47. 00:00:38,667 --> 00:00:40,333
  48. You found in one another a bond
  49.  
  50. 10
  51. 00:00:40,417 --> 00:00:41,750
  52. that exists only in combat.
  53.  
  54. 11
  55. 00:00:44,792 --> 00:00:47,500
  56. Every man that's wounded,
  57. every man I lose,
  58.  
  59. 12
  60. 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:50,250
  61. I have to believe
  62. that it's all worthwhile
  63.  
  64. 13
  65. 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:51,834
  66. because our cause is just.
  67.  
  68. 14
  69. 00:01:32,333 --> 00:01:35,333
  70. ( music playing )
  71.  
  72. 15
  73. 00:01:42,792 --> 00:01:46,333
  74. ( no audible dialogue )
  75.  
  76. 16
  77. 00:03:17,834 --> 00:03:20,625
  78. ( no audible dialogue )
  79.  
  80. 17
  81. 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:30,333
  82. ( airplane roaring )
  83.  
  84. 18
  85. 00:04:33,333 --> 00:04:35,166
  86. ( film projector running )
  87.  
  88. 19
  89. 00:04:36,583 --> 00:04:39,166
  90. ( roar of airplanes
  91. approaching )
  92.  
  93. 20
  94. 00:04:53,583 --> 00:04:58,792
  95. Man:
  96. Well, I don't know.
  97. The odds were all against you.
  98.  
  99. 21
  100. 00:04:58,875 --> 00:05:03,834
  101. It was more or less
  102. like being in death row
  103. in a penitentiary,
  104.  
  105. 22
  106. 00:05:03,917 --> 00:05:07,709
  107. waiting on your turn,
  108. and you knew it was coming.
  109.  
  110. 23
  111. 00:05:10,417 --> 00:05:13,333
  112. Man 2:
  113. You fly a real tough mission,
  114.  
  115. 24
  116. 00:05:13,417 --> 00:05:16,625
  117. and you're so glad to get back,
  118. and everybody says,
  119.  
  120. 25
  121. 00:05:16,709 --> 00:05:19,792
  122. "Boy, we made it
  123. through that one, didn't we?"
  124.  
  125. 26
  126. 00:05:19,875 --> 00:05:22,709
  127. And the next morning
  128. they'd come in,
  129.  
  130. 27
  131. 00:05:22,792 --> 00:05:24,667
  132. put the flashlight
  133. in your face--
  134.  
  135. 28
  136. 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:27,500
  137. "All right, boys, get up.
  138. You're gonna be leavin'.
  139.  
  140. 29
  141. 00:05:27,583 --> 00:05:30,625
  142. We're gonna be flyin'
  143. in two hours."
  144.  
  145. 30
  146. 00:05:30,709 --> 00:05:33,500
  147. Now, that's...
  148. that's tough.
  149.  
  150. 31
  151. 00:05:40,667 --> 00:05:42,917
  152. Man 3:
  153. I was 21 years old, yeah,
  154.  
  155. 32
  156. 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,750
  157. and we felt like
  158. we could live forever.
  159.  
  160. 33
  161. 00:05:48,583 --> 00:05:50,834
  162. Don't get me wrong.
  163.  
  164. 34
  165. 00:05:50,917 --> 00:05:54,750
  166. We'd still get
  167. that tight feeling...
  168.  
  169. 35
  170. 00:05:57,750 --> 00:06:01,625
  171. ...when we would would see
  172. bursting flak nearby,
  173.  
  174. 36
  175. 00:06:01,709 --> 00:06:03,333
  176. when we'd see fighters--
  177.  
  178. 37
  179. 00:06:03,417 --> 00:06:05,959
  180. we still got that feeling,
  181. but...
  182.  
  183. 38
  184. 00:06:06,041 --> 00:06:08,166
  185. ( anti-aircraft shells
  186. exploding )
  187.  
  188. 39
  189. 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:10,375
  190. ...you can't make a living
  191. that way.
  192.  
  193. 40
  194. 00:06:11,625 --> 00:06:13,750
  195. All you could do
  196. is make a dying.
  197.  
  198. 41
  199. 00:06:18,291 --> 00:06:20,000
  200. ( explosions continue )
  201.  
  202. 42
  203. 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:24,709
  204. Man 4:
  205. Anybody said
  206. they weren't afraid,
  207.  
  208. 43
  209. 00:06:24,792 --> 00:06:27,750
  210. they were full of crap.
  211. ( laughs )
  212.  
  213. 44
  214. 00:06:27,834 --> 00:06:31,125
  215. 'Cause you were always afraid
  216. what was gonna happen next,
  217.  
  218. 45
  219. 00:06:31,208 --> 00:06:34,583
  220. particularly in flak,
  221. you're just waiting
  222.  
  223. 46
  224. 00:06:34,667 --> 00:06:37,166
  225. for something to go off
  226. around you.
  227.  
  228. 47
  229. 00:06:41,208 --> 00:06:44,500
  230. And that's when the fighters
  231. would come up.
  232.  
  233. 48
  234. 00:06:44,583 --> 00:06:46,250
  235. ( aircraft approaching )
  236.  
  237. 49
  238. 00:06:51,792 --> 00:06:53,458
  239. ( machine-gunfire )
  240.  
  241. 50
  242. 00:06:59,083 --> 00:07:00,834
  243. ( firing )
  244.  
  245. 51
  246. 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:09,625
  247. ( firing )
  248.  
  249. 52
  250. 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:36,291
  251. Man:
  252. One of the men
  253. in our crew kept saying,
  254.  
  255. 53
  256. 00:07:36,375 --> 00:07:39,083
  257. "I know I'm not gonna make it,"
  258. et cetera, et cetera.
  259.  
  260. 54
  261. 00:07:39,166 --> 00:07:40,667
  262. And you don't like
  263. to hear that.
  264.  
  265. 55
  266. 00:07:40,750 --> 00:07:44,583
  267. And he was very concerned
  268. because his wife
  269.  
  270. 56
  271. 00:07:44,667 --> 00:07:47,709
  272. was expecting
  273. within a day or two.
  274.  
  275. 57
  276. 00:07:47,792 --> 00:07:50,583
  277. And, uh, the next day,
  278. they had him flying,
  279.  
  280. 58
  281. 00:07:50,667 --> 00:07:53,750
  282. which they shouldn't have had,
  283. and...
  284.  
  285. 59
  286. 00:07:53,834 --> 00:07:57,083
  287. they took so many men
  288. from our crew to fly with him,
  289.  
  290. 60
  291. 00:07:57,166 --> 00:08:00,542
  292. and they never made it back.
  293.  
  294. 61
  295. 00:08:00,625 --> 00:08:02,375
  296. They crashed into the Channel.
  297.  
  298. 62
  299. 00:08:02,458 --> 00:08:05,458
  300. And, incidentally--
  301. and this isn't storytelling--
  302.  
  303. 63
  304. 00:08:05,542 --> 00:08:07,834
  305. but he, he, uh...
  306.  
  307. 64
  308. 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,208
  309. ( sighs )
  310.  
  311. 65
  312. 00:08:14,750 --> 00:08:17,917
  313. ( voice breaking )
  314. ...he was killed
  315. the day his son was born.
  316.  
  317. 66
  318. 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:42,041
  319. John Ketzner:
  320. The war came,
  321.  
  322. 67
  323. 00:09:42,125 --> 00:09:44,375
  324. and we went and did
  325. what they told us to do.
  326.  
  327. 68
  328. 00:09:44,458 --> 00:09:47,875
  329. That's the only thing I know.
  330.  
  331. 69
  332. 00:09:47,959 --> 00:09:50,959
  333. The Japanese ruined my youth,
  334.  
  335. 70
  336. 00:09:51,041 --> 00:09:55,583
  337. because I was 20 years old
  338. or 19 years old
  339.  
  340. 71
  341. 00:09:55,667 --> 00:09:57,333
  342. and everything was wonderful,
  343.  
  344. 72
  345. 00:09:57,417 --> 00:10:00,750
  346. and the Japanese,
  347. in one fell swoop,
  348.  
  349. 73
  350. 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:02,834
  351. ended all that.
  352.  
  353. 74
  354. 00:10:02,917 --> 00:10:05,125
  355. And it lasted four years.
  356.  
  357. 75
  358. 00:10:08,625 --> 00:10:13,375
  359. Al Villagran:
  360. Well, I can see why they get
  361. young fellas to fly to war,
  362.  
  363. 76
  364. 00:10:13,458 --> 00:10:16,583
  365. or ground or submarines
  366. and so forth.
  367.  
  368. 77
  369. 00:10:16,667 --> 00:10:20,083
  370. When you're younger,
  371. you feel you can do anything.
  372.  
  373. 78
  374. 00:10:20,166 --> 00:10:24,208
  375. I think when you get older,
  376. you get smarter. ( chuckles )
  377.  
  378. 79
  379. 00:10:29,709 --> 00:10:32,166
  380. VG Alexander:
  381. There was a 19-year-old
  382. navigator,
  383.  
  384. 80
  385. 00:10:32,250 --> 00:10:35,041
  386. Jewish kid, sharp as a tack.
  387.  
  388. 81
  389. 00:10:35,125 --> 00:10:37,709
  390. And I had some older boys,
  391.  
  392. 82
  393. 00:10:37,792 --> 00:10:40,333
  394. my bombardier was 26 years old.
  395.  
  396. 83
  397. 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:44,250
  398. I was 22, 23.
  399.  
  400. 84
  401. 00:10:49,166 --> 00:10:50,750
  402. William Toombs:
  403. Oldest man we had in our crew
  404.  
  405. 85
  406. 00:10:50,834 --> 00:10:53,208
  407. was a Pennsylvania Dutchman,
  408. 32 years old.
  409.  
  410. 86
  411. 00:10:53,291 --> 00:10:55,417
  412. We called him "Pappy."
  413.  
  414. 87
  415. 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:57,792
  416. Thirty-two years old!
  417.  
  418. 88
  419. 00:10:57,875 --> 00:11:00,250
  420. Our navigator was 26,
  421.  
  422. 89
  423. 00:11:00,333 --> 00:11:04,875
  424. and everybody else
  425. was anywhere from 22, 23.
  426.  
  427. 90
  428. 00:11:06,583 --> 00:11:09,792
  429. I can look back now
  430. and see why...
  431.  
  432. 91
  433. 00:11:09,875 --> 00:11:14,000
  434. young people are in a war--
  435. not older people.
  436.  
  437. 92
  438. 00:11:14,083 --> 00:11:16,250
  439. Old people got better sense.
  440.  
  441. 93
  442. 00:11:24,917 --> 00:11:27,458
  443. Paul Haedike:
  444. Sometimes they say that
  445. the older you get,
  446.  
  447. 94
  448. 00:11:27,542 --> 00:11:29,000
  449. the more wiser you get.
  450.  
  451. 95
  452. 00:11:29,083 --> 00:11:31,458
  453. There weren't too many,
  454. I don't think,
  455.  
  456. 96
  457. 00:11:31,542 --> 00:11:34,250
  458. too much younger than me.
  459.  
  460. 97
  461. 00:11:34,333 --> 00:11:37,333
  462. I flew every one
  463. of my missions at 19.
  464.  
  465. 98
  466. 00:11:37,417 --> 00:11:40,917
  467. The old man on our crew
  468. was our waist gunner.
  469.  
  470. 99
  471. 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,375
  472. He was 25.
  473.  
  474. 100
  475. 00:11:50,291 --> 00:11:55,250
  476. John Doyle:
  477. I'll tell ya, when we got into
  478. this thing, you wanted to fly.
  479.  
  480. 101
  481. 00:11:55,333 --> 00:11:58,291
  482. You know, you had a great time
  483. training and all that.
  484.  
  485. 102
  486. 00:11:58,375 --> 00:12:02,000
  487. But when you get over there,
  488. and you got shot at
  489. the first time,
  490.  
  491. 103
  492. 00:12:02,083 --> 00:12:04,542
  493. you knew you were
  494. in deep doo-doo.
  495.  
  496. 104
  497. 00:12:04,625 --> 00:12:08,625
  498. ( chuckles ) And you really
  499. took life seriously after that.
  500.  
  501. 105
  502. 00:12:15,667 --> 00:12:19,417
  503. Robert Rowland:
  504. They said we was gonna fly
  505. 30 missions.
  506.  
  507. 106
  508. 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:24,542
  509. They started out at 25,
  510. and then they changed it to 30
  511. when we got there.
  512.  
  513. 107
  514. 00:12:24,625 --> 00:12:29,041
  515. Then we got 26 missions in,
  516. and they give us a week off,
  517.  
  518. 108
  519. 00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:30,875
  520. then we come back
  521. and they says,
  522.  
  523. 109
  524. 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,208
  525. "You're gonna fly 35."
  526.  
  527. 110
  528. 00:12:33,291 --> 00:12:36,834
  529. And that was kind of a shock.
  530. ( chuckles )
  531.  
  532. 111
  533. 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,917
  534. Glenn Harrison:
  535. It seemed like I was flying
  536. all the time.
  537.  
  538. 112
  539. 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,792
  540. There were 40 bomb groups,
  541. and our bomb group
  542. had a lot of people.
  543.  
  544. 113
  545. 00:12:48,875 --> 00:12:52,083
  546. I don't know the logistics
  547. of keepin' the fuel
  548.  
  549. 114
  550. 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:55,250
  551. and the ammunition,
  552. loading the bombs at night,
  553.  
  554. 115
  555. 00:12:55,333 --> 00:12:58,583
  556. getting 'em ready
  557. for the next day.
  558.  
  559. 116
  560. 00:12:58,667 --> 00:13:00,709
  561. I don't know how they did it.
  562.  
  563. 117
  564. 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:08,917
  565. Morton Kimmel:
  566. When you're in a position
  567. like that,
  568.  
  569. 118
  570. 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,333
  571. there's no tomorrow.
  572.  
  573. 119
  574. 00:13:11,417 --> 00:13:16,250
  575. You do everything that you
  576. want to do, that you can do,
  577.  
  578. 120
  579. 00:13:16,333 --> 00:13:20,291
  580. when you feel like doing it,
  581. and do it then,
  582.  
  583. 121
  584. 00:13:20,375 --> 00:13:23,875
  585. because you may not get
  586. the chance to do it again.
  587.  
  588. 122
  589. 00:14:31,417 --> 00:14:34,417
  590. Ketzner:
  591. Wouldn't be unusual,
  592. they'd wake you up,
  593.  
  594. 123
  595. 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:36,375
  596. the first thing you'd do
  597. would be
  598.  
  599. 124
  600. 00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:39,625
  601. go to the mess hall to eat.
  602.  
  603. 125
  604. 00:14:41,542 --> 00:14:42,959
  605. The mess hall was all lit up
  606.  
  607. 126
  608. 00:14:43,041 --> 00:14:44,709
  609. and everybody was laughing
  610. and talking,
  611.  
  612. 127
  613. 00:14:44,792 --> 00:14:48,083
  614. and usually,
  615. they had Berlin Lynn,
  616.  
  617. 128
  618. 00:14:48,166 --> 00:14:51,709
  619. or whatever her name was,
  620. on the radio, broadcasting.
  621.  
  622. 129
  623. 00:14:51,792 --> 00:14:53,250
  624. We hadn't been briefed yet,
  625.  
  626. 130
  627. 00:14:53,333 --> 00:14:55,000
  628. we didn't know where
  629. we was gonna go,
  630.  
  631. 131
  632. 00:14:55,083 --> 00:14:58,083
  633. but this lady in Berlin
  634. knew where we were gonna go.
  635.  
  636. 132
  637. 00:14:58,166 --> 00:15:02,000
  638. And she says, "Boys,
  639. you've got a tough one today.
  640.  
  641. 133
  642. 00:15:02,083 --> 00:15:04,166
  643. You're going to
  644. so-and-so and so-and-so,
  645.  
  646. 134
  647. 00:15:04,250 --> 00:15:07,125
  648. and we'll be waitin' on ya."
  649. And so... ( laughs )
  650.  
  651. 135
  652. 00:15:07,208 --> 00:15:09,417
  653. that they knew more
  654. than we did.
  655.  
  656. 136
  657. 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:19,333
  658. Villagran:
  659. Now, in the Air Force,
  660.  
  661. 137
  662. 00:15:19,417 --> 00:15:22,125
  663. when we went to the kitchen
  664. for breakfast,
  665.  
  666. 138
  667. 00:15:22,208 --> 00:15:26,750
  668. and we were getting, say, eggs,
  669. we'd get powdered eggs.
  670.  
  671. 139
  672. 00:15:26,834 --> 00:15:28,458
  673. That's what they had.
  674.  
  675. 140
  676. 00:15:28,542 --> 00:15:32,417
  677. Once in a while,
  678. we would get fresh eggs.
  679.  
  680. 141
  681. 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:35,333
  682. You could get two over easy,
  683.  
  684. 142
  685. 00:15:35,417 --> 00:15:37,500
  686. and this was a treat.
  687.  
  688. 143
  689. 00:15:37,583 --> 00:15:41,542
  690. But we knew after a while
  691. that when you got fresh eggs,
  692.  
  693. 144
  694. 00:15:41,625 --> 00:15:44,750
  695. it meant you were gonna have
  696. a real tough mission,
  697.  
  698. 145
  699. 00:15:44,834 --> 00:15:47,458
  700. so they gave you fresh eggs.
  701.  
  702. 146
  703. 00:15:47,542 --> 00:15:50,250
  704. ( laughing )
  705. That's the story.
  706.  
  707. 147
  708. 00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:53,625
  709. We don't want fresh eggs,
  710. but we want fresh eggs.
  711.  
  712. 148
  713. 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,709
  714. ( no audible dialogue )
  715.  
  716. 149
  717. 00:16:02,792 --> 00:16:05,417
  718. Doyle:
  719. When you go in to get ready
  720. for a flight,
  721.  
  722. 150
  723. 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:09,375
  724. you'd go into the locker room,
  725. and you wore long johns,
  726.  
  727. 151
  728. 00:16:09,458 --> 00:16:14,083
  729. and then you'd wear
  730. the heated suit, put that on.
  731.  
  732. 152
  733. 00:16:14,166 --> 00:16:16,709
  734. And we had gloves
  735. that were attached to those.
  736.  
  737. 153
  738. 00:16:16,792 --> 00:16:19,083
  739. You had to get your gloves
  740. into those.
  741.  
  742. 154
  743. 00:16:19,166 --> 00:16:21,583
  744. They came clear around
  745. your ankles, too.
  746.  
  747. 155
  748. 00:16:21,667 --> 00:16:25,375
  749. And then you had
  750. your flight suits.
  751.  
  752. 156
  753. 00:16:25,458 --> 00:16:27,750
  754. Those were the things
  755. that you just wore.
  756.  
  757. 157
  758. 00:16:34,291 --> 00:16:36,166
  759. Ketzner:
  760. Then you'd load back on a truck
  761.  
  762. 158
  763. 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:38,291
  764. and they'd take you to the area
  765.  
  766. 159
  767. 00:16:38,375 --> 00:16:41,625
  768. where the debriefing rooms
  769. were,
  770.  
  771. 160
  772. 00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:43,458
  773. so all the crews
  774. and everything
  775.  
  776. 161
  777. 00:16:43,542 --> 00:16:46,000
  778. would be sitting there,
  779. waiting,
  780.  
  781. 162
  782. 00:16:46,083 --> 00:16:48,500
  783. and they had a sheet
  784. over the wall.
  785.  
  786. 163
  787. 00:16:48,583 --> 00:16:50,792
  788. They'd pull the sheet back
  789. and say,
  790.  
  791. 164
  792. 00:16:50,875 --> 00:16:53,542
  793. "Our target today is Germany.
  794.  
  795. 165
  796. 00:16:53,625 --> 00:16:58,041
  797. The weather looks pretty good
  798. as near as we can tell."
  799.  
  800. 166
  801. 00:17:04,917 --> 00:17:08,250
  802. Ketzner:
  803. One thing always got me
  804. about these briefings.
  805.  
  806. 167
  807. 00:17:10,166 --> 00:17:12,667
  808. The Catholic chaplain,
  809.  
  810. 168
  811. 00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:16,792
  812. he was back in the corner
  813. hearing confessions...
  814.  
  815. 169
  816. 00:17:19,291 --> 00:17:21,625
  817. ...and giving out communions.
  818.  
  819. 170
  820. 00:17:21,709 --> 00:17:25,000
  821. ( laughing )
  822. So you knew that you
  823. was goin' someplace
  824.  
  825. 171
  826. 00:17:25,083 --> 00:17:27,000
  827. that you might not
  828. come back from.
  829.  
  830. 172
  831. 00:17:32,917 --> 00:17:36,291
  832. ( no audible dialogue )
  833.  
  834. 173
  835. 00:17:50,125 --> 00:17:52,834
  836. ( plane engines
  837. starting )
  838.  
  839. 174
  840. 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:20,208
  841. ( engines roaring )
  842.  
  843. 175
  844. 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:41,375
  845. Ketzner:
  846. That was one of the most
  847. amazing things of the war,
  848.  
  849. 176
  850. 00:18:41,458 --> 00:18:47,500
  851. the choreographing of
  852. putting 1100 airplanes
  853. together in formation at war.
  854.  
  855. 177
  856. 00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:56,750
  857. Toombs:
  858. We'd all line up
  859. on the perimeter strip
  860.  
  861. 178
  862. 00:18:56,834 --> 00:18:59,792
  863. that come around to
  864. the end of the runway.
  865.  
  866. 179
  867. 00:18:59,875 --> 00:19:04,291
  868. And the lead ship
  869. would taxi around and line up,
  870.  
  871. 180
  872. 00:19:04,375 --> 00:19:07,291
  873. and when they fired the flare
  874. to take off,
  875.  
  876. 181
  877. 00:19:07,375 --> 00:19:10,166
  878. that lead ship
  879. went down the runway.
  880.  
  881. 182
  882. 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:17,041
  883. Next man pulled right up
  884. behind him.
  885.  
  886. 183
  887. 00:19:17,125 --> 00:19:19,709
  888. Thirty seconds, he moved.
  889.  
  890. 184
  891. 00:19:23,417 --> 00:19:25,875
  892. Thirty seconds,
  893. the third man moved.
  894.  
  895. 185
  896. 00:19:25,959 --> 00:19:29,417
  897. Every 30 seconds a plane
  898. was goin' down that runway.
  899.  
  900. 186
  901. 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,667
  902. That lead plane
  903. never got off the ground
  904.  
  905. 187
  906. 00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:35,625
  907. before that second plane
  908. was already running.
  909.  
  910. 188
  911. 00:19:53,667 --> 00:19:56,417
  912. Harrison:
  913. Well, we'd just spin out there
  914. on the end of the runway
  915.  
  916. 189
  917. 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:57,959
  918. and give it full throttle,
  919.  
  920. 190
  921. 00:19:58,041 --> 00:20:00,333
  922. and you had to have
  923. enough speed for it
  924.  
  925. 191
  926. 00:20:00,417 --> 00:20:03,208
  927. to lift all that load up.
  928.  
  929. 192
  930. 00:20:03,291 --> 00:20:05,667
  931. You had a full gas load,
  932.  
  933. 193
  934. 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:09,417
  935. you had all your ammunition
  936. for the guns,
  937.  
  938. 194
  939. 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,917
  940. and you had the bombload.
  941.  
  942. 195
  943. 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:25,959
  944. Villagran:
  945. 'Course, while you're up there,
  946.  
  947. 196
  948. 00:21:26,041 --> 00:21:28,750
  949. I could see the sun comin' up
  950. around the Earth,
  951.  
  952. 197
  953. 00:21:28,834 --> 00:21:31,250
  954. and I thought that
  955. was the most weird thing,
  956.  
  957. 198
  958. 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:36,125
  959. to see the sun comin' up
  960. and it's dark on Earth,
  961. you're knowing.
  962.  
  963. 199
  964. 00:21:36,208 --> 00:21:38,667
  965. But you realized what was
  966. happening to you,
  967.  
  968. 200
  969. 00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:41,125
  970. and the next thing you know,
  971. why, the sun come up,
  972.  
  973. 201
  974. 00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:44,333
  975. and you see all these airplanes
  976. circling,
  977.  
  978. 202
  979. 00:21:44,417 --> 00:21:47,291
  980. straining, so to speak,
  981. to get up to the altitude
  982.  
  983. 203
  984. 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:49,500
  985. with a heavy load of bombs.
  986.  
  987. 204
  988. 00:22:05,041 --> 00:22:07,917
  989. Rowland:
  990. You had to form up,
  991. and you had a circle
  992.  
  993. 205
  994. 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,041
  995. you were supposed to fly
  996. till you got formed up
  997. with your group.
  998.  
  999. 206
  1000. 00:22:12,125 --> 00:22:15,875
  1001. And then there'd be
  1002. another bomb group over here.
  1003.  
  1004. 207
  1005. 00:22:15,959 --> 00:22:20,709
  1006. And one day we come within
  1007. three or four inches...
  1008.  
  1009. 208
  1010. 00:22:20,792 --> 00:22:25,125
  1011. ( laughs ) ...of flakin' up
  1012. another bomb group.
  1013.  
  1014. 209
  1015. 00:22:33,583 --> 00:22:35,667
  1016. Alexander:
  1017. Well, on some of 'em,
  1018.  
  1019. 210
  1020. 00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:38,166
  1021. when the young pilots'd come in
  1022. as replacements,
  1023.  
  1024. 211
  1025. 00:22:38,250 --> 00:22:41,500
  1026. if I was first man to take off,
  1027. we'd be up in the air,
  1028.  
  1029. 212
  1030. 00:22:41,583 --> 00:22:44,917
  1031. say, two or three hundred feet,
  1032. climbing,
  1033.  
  1034. 213
  1035. 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,250
  1036. all of a sudden, boom!
  1037.  
  1038. 214
  1039. 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,875
  1040. Doyle:
  1041. You'd see a bright flash,
  1042.  
  1043. 215
  1044. 00:22:51,959 --> 00:22:54,875
  1045. a red flash,
  1046. and stuff coming down,
  1047.  
  1048. 216
  1049. 00:22:54,959 --> 00:22:57,917
  1050. you knew darn well
  1051. it was a midair collision.
  1052.  
  1053. 217
  1054. 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:03,291
  1055. And those were scary times,
  1056. as far as getting up.
  1057.  
  1058. 218
  1059. 00:23:05,959 --> 00:23:11,875
  1060. Haedike:
  1061. Two B-17s, one came down
  1062. right on top of the other.
  1063.  
  1064. 219
  1065. 00:23:11,959 --> 00:23:13,750
  1066. They all went to their death.
  1067.  
  1068. 220
  1069. 00:23:16,041 --> 00:23:19,333
  1070. That's when I started smokin',
  1071. by the way. ( laughs )
  1072.  
  1073. 221
  1074. 00:23:59,250 --> 00:24:01,291
  1075. ( no audible dialogue )
  1076.  
  1077. 222
  1078. 00:24:05,417 --> 00:24:08,125
  1079. Kimmel:
  1080. Well, actually,
  1081. I believe that our officers
  1082.  
  1083. 223
  1084. 00:24:08,208 --> 00:24:10,250
  1085. were closer to the crew
  1086.  
  1087. 224
  1088. 00:24:10,333 --> 00:24:12,375
  1089. than they were
  1090. with other officers.
  1091.  
  1092. 225
  1093. 00:24:16,458 --> 00:24:19,834
  1094. As a crew, most crews
  1095. stuck pretty well together.
  1096.  
  1097. 226
  1098. 00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:21,375
  1099. We did a lot together.
  1100.  
  1101. 227
  1102. 00:24:22,625 --> 00:24:25,750
  1103. ( no audible dialogue )
  1104.  
  1105. 228
  1106. 00:24:25,834 --> 00:24:29,083
  1107. I don't think
  1108. we would have appreciated
  1109.  
  1110. 229
  1111. 00:24:29,166 --> 00:24:31,458
  1112. one new man joining us.
  1113.  
  1114. 230
  1115. 00:24:31,542 --> 00:24:34,709
  1116. We knew what each man
  1117. was capable of doing.
  1118.  
  1119. 231
  1120. 00:24:34,792 --> 00:24:38,875
  1121. Each man did his job good,
  1122. and no one complained.
  1123.  
  1124. 232
  1125. 00:24:42,792 --> 00:24:47,583
  1126. Haedike:
  1127. We were family in the air--
  1128. you absolutely had to be.
  1129.  
  1130. 233
  1131. 00:24:47,667 --> 00:24:49,417
  1132. We all had our duties.
  1133.  
  1134. 234
  1135. 00:24:51,625 --> 00:24:54,041
  1136. Villagran:
  1137. We just wanted
  1138. to stay together.
  1139.  
  1140. 235
  1141. 00:24:54,125 --> 00:24:59,000
  1142. And we flew 25 missions
  1143. as a crew, all of us together.
  1144.  
  1145. 236
  1146. 00:25:05,875 --> 00:25:07,667
  1147. Haedike:
  1148. You're a family...
  1149.  
  1150. 237
  1151. 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:09,709
  1152. exactly--
  1153. you have to be.
  1154.  
  1155. 238
  1156. 00:25:09,792 --> 00:25:12,166
  1157. However,
  1158. I can remember one mission
  1159.  
  1160. 239
  1161. 00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:15,417
  1162. when our flight engineer
  1163. came out smashed.
  1164.  
  1165. 240
  1166. 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:17,792
  1167. And I climbed all over him.
  1168.  
  1169. 241
  1170. 00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:20,083
  1171. I said,
  1172. "What is wrong with you?"
  1173.  
  1174. 242
  1175. 00:25:20,166 --> 00:25:22,208
  1176. We depended on one another.
  1177.  
  1178. 243
  1179. 00:25:23,375 --> 00:25:25,834
  1180. ( no audible dialogue )
  1181.  
  1182. 244
  1183. 00:25:25,917 --> 00:25:28,000
  1184. Kimmel:
  1185. There was a lot
  1186. of spit and polish
  1187.  
  1188. 245
  1189. 00:25:28,083 --> 00:25:31,834
  1190. with the officers,
  1191. and that didn't happen.
  1192.  
  1193. 246
  1194. 00:25:31,917 --> 00:25:35,125
  1195. Like you say,
  1196. we're a family of brothers...
  1197.  
  1198. 247
  1199. 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,208
  1200. ...and we didn't have time
  1201. for all that stuff.
  1202.  
  1203. 248
  1204. 00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:45,417
  1205. But there was no saluting
  1206. and...
  1207.  
  1208. 249
  1209. 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,458
  1210. and "Yes sir, no sir"
  1211. and all that.
  1212.  
  1213. 250
  1214. 00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:52,625
  1215. Each guy was his own guy.
  1216.  
  1217. 251
  1218. 00:25:54,834 --> 00:25:59,375
  1219. Alexander:
  1220. Well, of course,
  1221. each man would do his job
  1222.  
  1223. 252
  1224. 00:25:59,458 --> 00:26:03,375
  1225. and we all knew exactly
  1226. who was gonna do what,
  1227.  
  1228. 253
  1229. 00:26:03,458 --> 00:26:04,667
  1230. so to speak.
  1231.  
  1232. 254
  1233. 00:26:07,208 --> 00:26:10,125
  1234. So I knew I had a good crew.
  1235.  
  1236. 255
  1237. 00:26:11,792 --> 00:26:14,834
  1238. And we just
  1239. got along beautifully.
  1240.  
  1241. 256
  1242. 00:26:55,667 --> 00:26:57,750
  1243. Toombs:
  1244. We had a crew chief
  1245. that took care of that plane
  1246.  
  1247. 257
  1248. 00:26:57,834 --> 00:27:00,333
  1249. after we got it back
  1250. off a mission.
  1251.  
  1252. 258
  1253. 00:27:00,417 --> 00:27:03,792
  1254. So the three of us
  1255. walked that plane,
  1256.  
  1257. 259
  1258. 00:27:03,875 --> 00:27:06,166
  1259. looked at everything
  1260. on the ground,
  1261.  
  1262. 260
  1263. 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:08,667
  1264. ask him all the questions
  1265. we could think of.
  1266.  
  1267. 261
  1268. 00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:10,917
  1269. If there was any little thing
  1270.  
  1271. 262
  1272. 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,625
  1273. that we thought we should
  1274. pay particular attention to,
  1275.  
  1276. 263
  1277. 00:27:14,709 --> 00:27:16,667
  1278. for him to tell us.
  1279.  
  1280. 264
  1281. 00:27:31,333 --> 00:27:34,083
  1282. Haedike:
  1283. You never flew
  1284. the same plane all the time.
  1285.  
  1286. 265
  1287. 00:27:34,166 --> 00:27:37,291
  1288. It's just like your car
  1289. havin' an ouchie
  1290.  
  1291. 266
  1292. 00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,875
  1293. and you take it in
  1294. to Firestone or somewhere
  1295. to get fixed.
  1296.  
  1297. 267
  1298. 00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:43,792
  1299. They'd work overnight,
  1300. all night long,
  1301.  
  1302. 268
  1303. 00:27:43,875 --> 00:27:45,834
  1304. trying to patch planes.
  1305.  
  1306. 269
  1307. 00:27:53,959 --> 00:27:55,625
  1308. Doyle:
  1309. As soon as you got in,
  1310.  
  1311. 270
  1312. 00:27:55,709 --> 00:27:58,208
  1313. they would take care
  1314. of any damage,
  1315.  
  1316. 271
  1317. 00:27:58,291 --> 00:28:01,417
  1318. they would get in the plane
  1319. and check the engines out,
  1320.  
  1321. 272
  1322. 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,375
  1323. start 'em up and check 'em out.
  1324.  
  1325. 273
  1326. 00:28:03,458 --> 00:28:05,583
  1327. And they would
  1328. clean up everything.
  1329.  
  1330. 274
  1331. 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:13,917
  1332. Kimmel:
  1333. Tremendous workers.
  1334.  
  1335. 275
  1336. 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,625
  1337. They were so good.
  1338.  
  1339. 276
  1340. 00:28:15,709 --> 00:28:18,709
  1341. We came back in B-17s
  1342. with two engines,
  1343.  
  1344. 277
  1345. 00:28:18,792 --> 00:28:22,750
  1346. with the tail fin shot up
  1347. and busted away...
  1348.  
  1349. 278
  1350. 00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:26,917
  1351. ...with all kinds of holes
  1352. in the plane,
  1353.  
  1354. 279
  1355. 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,667
  1356. and in two days, that plane
  1357. was flying missions again.
  1358.  
  1359. 280
  1360. 00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:49,083
  1361. Toombs:
  1362. We had armor on our crew.
  1363.  
  1364. 281
  1365. 00:28:49,166 --> 00:28:52,709
  1366. And he'd be there when they--
  1367. most cases, not all cases--
  1368.  
  1369. 282
  1370. 00:28:52,792 --> 00:28:56,834
  1371. sometimes a plane'd be loaded
  1372. before we ever got there.
  1373.  
  1374. 283
  1375. 00:29:03,291 --> 00:29:06,000
  1376. Doyle:
  1377. The armor gunners
  1378. took care of all that.
  1379.  
  1380. 284
  1381. 00:29:06,083 --> 00:29:10,917
  1382. They'd bring 'em out
  1383. on big carriers, and...
  1384.  
  1385. 285
  1386. 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,458
  1387. it was a dangerous job.
  1388.  
  1389. 286
  1390. 00:29:26,583 --> 00:29:30,542
  1391. Haedike:
  1392. We did not load the bombs, no,
  1393. but we did come out and check.
  1394.  
  1395. 287
  1396. 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:39,291
  1397. ( no audio )
  1398.  
  1399. 288
  1400. 00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:55,542
  1401. Doyle:
  1402. They were all fused,
  1403.  
  1404. 289
  1405. 00:29:55,625 --> 00:29:59,750
  1406. and they had fusing wires
  1407. stuck to the propeller.
  1408.  
  1409. 290
  1410. 00:30:04,709 --> 00:30:08,458
  1411. These fusing wires
  1412. were hooked on the shackles
  1413.  
  1414. 291
  1415. 00:30:08,542 --> 00:30:10,792
  1416. that the bombs are hung on,
  1417.  
  1418. 292
  1419. 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:14,041
  1420. and when they left the plane,
  1421. they would pull the wire out.
  1422.  
  1423. 293
  1424. 00:30:17,709 --> 00:30:20,375
  1425. Haedike:
  1426. Now the bomb is alive.
  1427.  
  1428. 294
  1429. 00:30:22,041 --> 00:30:24,500
  1430. If you've seen movies
  1431. and you hear bombs...
  1432.  
  1433. 295
  1434. 00:30:24,583 --> 00:30:29,375
  1435. ( whistles ) ...goin' down,
  1436. that's this fuse spinning out.
  1437.  
  1438. 296
  1439. 00:30:33,709 --> 00:30:36,125
  1440. Now the bomb is live,
  1441. and once it hit,
  1442.  
  1443. 297
  1444. 00:30:36,208 --> 00:30:37,750
  1445. of course,
  1446. it detonates.
  1447.  
  1448. 298
  1449. 00:30:41,083 --> 00:30:45,083
  1450. We had two missions
  1451. where I had to go back
  1452. in the bomb bay
  1453.  
  1454. 299
  1455. 00:30:45,166 --> 00:30:47,250
  1456. and put the cotter pins
  1457. back in.
  1458.  
  1459. 300
  1460. 00:30:47,333 --> 00:30:50,000
  1461. And that is a little hairy.
  1462.  
  1463. 301
  1464. 00:30:50,083 --> 00:30:52,083
  1465. Why? 'Cause when you landed,
  1466.  
  1467. 302
  1468. 00:30:52,166 --> 00:30:54,750
  1469. if you didn't,
  1470. the bombs were armed,
  1471.  
  1472. 303
  1473. 00:30:54,834 --> 00:30:57,750
  1474. and if you had trouble,
  1475. of course, you'd detonate.
  1476.  
  1477. 304
  1478. 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:31,041
  1479. Villagran:
  1480. Well, we talked about
  1481. just about everything.
  1482.  
  1483. 305
  1484. 00:32:31,125 --> 00:32:35,709
  1485. Our families, et cetera.
  1486. It didn't matter what it was.
  1487.  
  1488. 306
  1489. 00:32:35,792 --> 00:32:39,542
  1490. We kept pretty much of
  1491. a running conversation
  1492. between everybody.
  1493.  
  1494. 307
  1495. 00:32:39,625 --> 00:32:41,834
  1496. It made the mission
  1497. go a little easier.
  1498.  
  1499. 308
  1500. 00:32:50,041 --> 00:32:51,500
  1501. Ketzner:
  1502. First thing you did,
  1503.  
  1504. 309
  1505. 00:32:51,583 --> 00:32:53,834
  1506. soon as we cleared
  1507. the coast of England,
  1508.  
  1509. 310
  1510. 00:32:53,917 --> 00:32:56,291
  1511. everybody would test
  1512. their guns.
  1513.  
  1514. 311
  1515. 00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:59,208
  1516. ( gun firing )
  1517.  
  1518. 312
  1519. 00:33:15,834 --> 00:33:19,542
  1520. Toombs:
  1521. Well, of course,
  1522. I can only speak for myself,
  1523.  
  1524. 313
  1525. 00:33:19,625 --> 00:33:23,250
  1526. but when you're in
  1527. hostile territory,
  1528.  
  1529. 314
  1530. 00:33:23,333 --> 00:33:25,625
  1531. and I was in a top turret,
  1532.  
  1533. 315
  1534. 00:33:25,709 --> 00:33:29,500
  1535. so all of my vision was 360--
  1536.  
  1537. 316
  1538. 00:33:29,583 --> 00:33:31,709
  1539. 90 degrees this way, ya know.
  1540.  
  1541. 317
  1542. 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,542
  1543. Harrison:
  1544. Contrails would form
  1545. at the tail of the ship.
  1546.  
  1547. 318
  1548. 00:33:47,875 --> 00:33:51,375
  1549. The moisture in the air
  1550. and the ship flying through it
  1551.  
  1552. 319
  1553. 00:33:51,458 --> 00:33:53,750
  1554. made the contrails.
  1555.  
  1556. 320
  1557. 00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:58,333
  1558. And a lot times
  1559. we wouldn't have 'em,
  1560.  
  1561. 321
  1562. 00:33:58,417 --> 00:34:02,291
  1563. because it depended on
  1564. the amount of moisture
  1565. in the air.
  1566.  
  1567. 322
  1568. 00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:44,792
  1569. Toombs:
  1570. Couldn't see
  1571. a prettier sight than that.
  1572.  
  1573. 323
  1574. 00:34:46,542 --> 00:34:49,500
  1575. Kind of spell-bound,
  1576. ya know, spell-bound.
  1577.  
  1578. 324
  1579. 00:34:51,291 --> 00:34:53,041
  1580. A beautiful sight.
  1581.  
  1582. 325
  1583. 00:34:58,083 --> 00:35:01,041
  1584. Ketzner:
  1585. If you're watching
  1586. on the ground over in Germany,
  1587.  
  1588. 326
  1589. 00:35:01,125 --> 00:35:04,959
  1590. they tell me,
  1591. it took about 30 minutes
  1592. for 'em all to come over.
  1593.  
  1594. 327
  1595. 00:35:07,792 --> 00:35:10,041
  1596. Haedike:
  1597. They said on a clear day
  1598.  
  1599. 328
  1600. 00:35:10,125 --> 00:35:13,917
  1601. that the Germans could see us
  1602. coming 50 miles out
  1603.  
  1604. 329
  1605. 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,291
  1606. from the contrails.
  1607.  
  1608. 330
  1609. 00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:21,333
  1610. And unfortunately,
  1611. when that happened,
  1612.  
  1613. 331
  1614. 00:35:21,417 --> 00:35:24,875
  1615. that wasn't too good,
  1616. because they were ready for us.
  1617.  
  1618. 332
  1619. 00:36:12,917 --> 00:36:17,041
  1620. Kimmel:
  1621. In 1938, I was down in Chile,
  1622.  
  1623. 333
  1624. 00:36:17,125 --> 00:36:19,542
  1625. and they threw a good will tour
  1626. down there.
  1627.  
  1628. 334
  1629. 00:36:19,625 --> 00:36:21,959
  1630. I remember going out
  1631. with my father
  1632.  
  1633. 335
  1634. 00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:23,417
  1635. and seeing these big planes.
  1636.  
  1637. 336
  1638. 00:36:27,583 --> 00:36:31,458
  1639. And I said to my father,
  1640. "Someday I'm gonna fly
  1641. in one of those."
  1642.  
  1643. 337
  1644. 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:34,875
  1645. ( laughs )
  1646. Little did I know.
  1647.  
  1648. 338
  1649. 00:36:44,083 --> 00:36:48,500
  1650. Toombs:
  1651. The B-17 was not only
  1652. a beautiful ship,
  1653.  
  1654. 339
  1655. 00:36:48,583 --> 00:36:49,834
  1656. but it flew like a dream,
  1657.  
  1658. 340
  1659. 00:36:49,917 --> 00:36:53,917
  1660. it flew like
  1661. an overgrown Piper Cub.
  1662.  
  1663. 341
  1664. 00:36:56,875 --> 00:36:59,417
  1665. It flew nice and smooth.
  1666. Beautiful.
  1667.  
  1668. 342
  1669. 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:01,917
  1670. Took a lot of punishment.
  1671.  
  1672. 343
  1673. 00:37:04,333 --> 00:37:06,667
  1674. Kimmel:
  1675. The greatest airplane
  1676. ever built,
  1677.  
  1678. 344
  1679. 00:37:06,750 --> 00:37:08,709
  1680. as far as I'm concerned.
  1681.  
  1682. 345
  1683. 00:37:08,792 --> 00:37:11,166
  1684. It brought us back 35 times.
  1685.  
  1686. 346
  1687. 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:15,709
  1688. Sometimes in condition
  1689. that you would never even think
  1690.  
  1691. 347
  1692. 00:37:15,792 --> 00:37:17,750
  1693. of trying to fly an airplane,
  1694.  
  1695. 348
  1696. 00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:20,166
  1697. any other airplane,
  1698.  
  1699. 349
  1700. 00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:24,458
  1701. that plane came back,
  1702. and that plane brought us back.
  1703.  
  1704. 350
  1705. 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,792
  1706. It was a marriage,
  1707. I'll tell ya.
  1708.  
  1709. 351
  1710. 00:37:40,834 --> 00:37:44,709
  1711. Haedike:
  1712. A lot of guys, they'd name
  1713. their own planes.
  1714.  
  1715. 352
  1716. 00:37:44,792 --> 00:37:47,000
  1717. And they had
  1718. all kinds of kooky names.
  1719.  
  1720. 353
  1721. 00:37:52,875 --> 00:37:55,000
  1722. Kimmel:
  1723. The original crews
  1724.  
  1725. 354
  1726. 00:37:55,083 --> 00:37:56,583
  1727. had a lot of good painters
  1728.  
  1729. 355
  1730. 00:37:56,667 --> 00:38:00,250
  1731. and they had a of planes
  1732. that were decorated
  1733.  
  1734. 356
  1735. 00:38:00,333 --> 00:38:03,375
  1736. and had logos on 'em
  1737. and so on.
  1738.  
  1739. 357
  1740. 00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:16,959
  1741. Haedike:
  1742. Vargas girls, like Petty girl--
  1743. Petty girls, Vargas girls,
  1744.  
  1745. 358
  1746. 00:38:17,041 --> 00:38:18,333
  1747. sexy girls--
  1748.  
  1749. 359
  1750. 00:38:18,417 --> 00:38:20,709
  1751. there weren't too many
  1752. serious things.
  1753.  
  1754. 360
  1755. 00:38:20,792 --> 00:38:23,166
  1756. I think to keep guys loose.
  1757.  
  1758. 361
  1759. 00:39:08,917 --> 00:39:10,625
  1760. Villagran:
  1761. Well... ( laughs )
  1762.  
  1763. 362
  1764. 00:39:10,709 --> 00:39:14,291
  1765. ...on a warm day
  1766. it would be 20 below.
  1767.  
  1768. 363
  1769. 00:39:14,375 --> 00:39:17,083
  1770. But sometimes it got 60 below.
  1771.  
  1772. 364
  1773. 00:39:17,166 --> 00:39:20,458
  1774. And oftentimes
  1775. I had to take my oxygen mask
  1776.  
  1777. 365
  1778. 00:39:20,542 --> 00:39:22,542
  1779. and crack the ice out of it
  1780.  
  1781. 366
  1782. 00:39:22,625 --> 00:39:26,375
  1783. and check if it would
  1784. freeze into the tube.
  1785.  
  1786. 367
  1787. 00:39:26,458 --> 00:39:28,500
  1788. That was one of the worst parts
  1789. of the mission,
  1790.  
  1791. 368
  1792. 00:39:28,583 --> 00:39:30,792
  1793. was the cold air.
  1794.  
  1795. 369
  1796. 00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:32,417
  1797. The only time
  1798. you didn't feel it
  1799.  
  1800. 370
  1801. 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,500
  1802. is when you were
  1803. fightin' fighters
  1804.  
  1805. 371
  1806. 00:39:34,583 --> 00:39:37,709
  1807. or goin' over the target.
  1808.  
  1809. 372
  1810. 00:39:42,208 --> 00:39:45,542
  1811. Toombs:
  1812. Oh, at 30,000 feet the--
  1813.  
  1814. 373
  1815. 00:39:45,625 --> 00:39:50,166
  1816. I think the temperature drops
  1817. two degrees every thousand.
  1818.  
  1819. 374
  1820. 00:39:52,208 --> 00:39:56,458
  1821. It'd be about 40 below
  1822. at that altitude.
  1823.  
  1824. 375
  1825. 00:39:56,542 --> 00:40:02,375
  1826. In the cockpit,
  1827. a little bit of heat came off
  1828. the number three engine,
  1829.  
  1830. 376
  1831. 00:40:02,458 --> 00:40:08,208
  1832. it came into the cockpit
  1833. where the pilot and I sat.
  1834.  
  1835. 377
  1836. 00:40:08,291 --> 00:40:11,875
  1837. And there's enough
  1838. to kind of keep your feet warm
  1839.  
  1840. 378
  1841. 00:40:11,959 --> 00:40:13,959
  1842. and your hands.
  1843.  
  1844. 379
  1845. 00:40:15,458 --> 00:40:17,625
  1846. ( wind whistling )
  1847.  
  1848. 380
  1849. 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,709
  1850. Toombs:
  1851. Our ball turret gunner
  1852. had a gun problem,
  1853.  
  1854. 381
  1855. 00:40:24,792 --> 00:40:28,792
  1856. his gun jammed,
  1857. and he took his gloves off
  1858. to work on it,
  1859.  
  1860. 382
  1861. 00:40:28,875 --> 00:40:31,250
  1862. and both his hands
  1863. got frostbitten
  1864.  
  1865. 383
  1866. 00:40:31,333 --> 00:40:34,709
  1867. and he didn't fly with us
  1868. for a month until
  1869. his hands healed up.
  1870.  
  1871. 384
  1872. 00:40:41,875 --> 00:40:45,583
  1873. Kimmel:
  1874. Well, it was so cold
  1875. on one mission
  1876.  
  1877. 385
  1878. 00:40:45,667 --> 00:40:50,792
  1879. our copilot suffered
  1880. an anoxia situation
  1881. where he passed out,
  1882.  
  1883. 386
  1884. 00:40:50,875 --> 00:40:55,083
  1885. and his hand froze
  1886. to the plexiglass window,
  1887.  
  1888. 387
  1889. 00:40:55,166 --> 00:40:58,125
  1890. and then they had
  1891. to amputate the fingers
  1892. of his hand
  1893.  
  1894. 388
  1895. 00:40:58,208 --> 00:41:02,125
  1896. because it was so cold
  1897. that his hand, when he tried
  1898. to help himself,
  1899.  
  1900. 389
  1901. 00:41:02,208 --> 00:41:05,500
  1902. froze to the plexiglass window.
  1903.  
  1904. 390
  1905. 00:41:59,583 --> 00:42:01,625
  1906. ( church bell tolling )
  1907.  
  1908. 391
  1909. 00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:08,125
  1910. Toombs:
  1911. Well, the British
  1912. treated us very nice,
  1913.  
  1914. 392
  1915. 00:42:08,208 --> 00:42:11,417
  1916. in some cases royally.
  1917.  
  1918. 393
  1919. 00:42:14,125 --> 00:42:15,875
  1920. They called it
  1921. "The Friendly Invasion"
  1922.  
  1923. 394
  1924. 00:42:15,959 --> 00:42:18,250
  1925. 'cause we flat invaded
  1926. that country.
  1927.  
  1928. 395
  1929. 00:42:27,083 --> 00:42:29,208
  1930. England's a small country,
  1931. and we had it
  1932.  
  1933. 396
  1934. 00:42:29,291 --> 00:42:32,625
  1935. absolutely covered up
  1936. with American soldiers.
  1937.  
  1938. 397
  1939. 00:42:35,625 --> 00:42:38,542
  1940. And they tolerated us.
  1941.  
  1942. 398
  1943. 00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:41,291
  1944. ( no audible dialogue )
  1945.  
  1946. 399
  1947. 00:42:55,792 --> 00:42:57,291
  1948. Villagran:
  1949. I was single then,
  1950.  
  1951. 400
  1952. 00:42:57,375 --> 00:42:59,875
  1953. I could run around,
  1954. do whatever I wanted.
  1955.  
  1956. 401
  1957. 00:42:59,959 --> 00:43:01,750
  1958. But I didn't feel uncomfortable
  1959.  
  1960. 402
  1961. 00:43:01,834 --> 00:43:04,709
  1962. with the British people
  1963. at all...
  1964.  
  1965. 403
  1966. 00:43:04,792 --> 00:43:07,709
  1967. once I got to be able
  1968. to understand the language,
  1969.  
  1970. 404
  1971. 00:43:07,792 --> 00:43:10,500
  1972. because... ( laughs )
  1973. that English language
  1974.  
  1975. 405
  1976. 00:43:10,583 --> 00:43:12,792
  1977. is a little different
  1978. then ours.
  1979.  
  1980. 406
  1981. 00:43:14,667 --> 00:43:16,250
  1982. Alexander:
  1983. Very good people.
  1984.  
  1985. 407
  1986. 00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:19,542
  1987. As you know,
  1988. at the beginning of the war
  1989.  
  1990. 408
  1991. 00:43:19,625 --> 00:43:23,625
  1992. they weren't too enamored
  1993. by the Yanks comin' over.
  1994.  
  1995. 409
  1996. 00:43:23,709 --> 00:43:29,041
  1997. They said we were "overpaid,
  1998. oversexed, and over here."
  1999.  
  2000. 410
  2001. 00:43:29,125 --> 00:43:31,333
  2002. ( chuckles )
  2003. I remember that.
  2004.  
  2005. 411
  2006. 00:44:10,333 --> 00:44:15,417
  2007. Alexander:
  2008. Flak is German
  2009. 88-millimeter cannon shells.
  2010.  
  2011. 412
  2012. 00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:19,625
  2013. Flak was responsible
  2014. for more planes being shot down
  2015.  
  2016. 413
  2017. 00:44:19,709 --> 00:44:21,875
  2018. than enemy fighters.
  2019.  
  2020. 414
  2021. 00:44:21,959 --> 00:44:25,041
  2022. And when you see a flak,
  2023. black puffs of smoke,
  2024.  
  2025. 415
  2026. 00:44:25,125 --> 00:44:28,542
  2027. that's after the shell,
  2028. of course, has exploded.
  2029.  
  2030. 416
  2031. 00:44:28,625 --> 00:44:31,500
  2032. And it explodes,
  2033. hypothetically,
  2034.  
  2035. 417
  2036. 00:44:31,583 --> 00:44:34,291
  2037. into 200 pieces...
  2038.  
  2039. 418
  2040. 00:44:34,375 --> 00:44:36,417
  2041. and it's powerful.
  2042.  
  2043. 419
  2044. 00:44:41,417 --> 00:44:43,750
  2045. Rowland:
  2046. You don't know where
  2047. the flak is coming from.
  2048.  
  2049. 420
  2050. 00:44:43,834 --> 00:44:47,083
  2051. You don't know
  2052. if the next burst
  2053. is gonna hit you or not.
  2054.  
  2055. 421
  2056. 00:44:47,166 --> 00:44:50,333
  2057. You never know where
  2058. the next one is gonna be
  2059.  
  2060. 422
  2061. 00:44:50,417 --> 00:44:53,250
  2062. in a case like that,
  2063. and that's what scares ya.
  2064.  
  2065. 423
  2066. 00:44:53,333 --> 00:44:55,333
  2067. ( explosions )
  2068.  
  2069. 424
  2070. 00:44:55,417 --> 00:44:57,583
  2071. Toombs:
  2072. It just looked like
  2073. a big thunderstorm,
  2074.  
  2075. 425
  2076. 00:44:57,667 --> 00:44:59,875
  2077. so to speak,
  2078. that's what it amounted to.
  2079.  
  2080. 426
  2081. 00:44:59,959 --> 00:45:02,250
  2082. But you had to keep on flyin'.
  2083.  
  2084. 427
  2085. 00:45:07,959 --> 00:45:11,625
  2086. Kimmel:
  2087. God was on your side
  2088. when you didn't get hit.
  2089.  
  2090. 428
  2091. 00:45:11,709 --> 00:45:13,875
  2092. The flak would vary so much.
  2093.  
  2094. 429
  2095. 00:45:13,959 --> 00:45:16,041
  2096. The Germans had
  2097. pretty good radar--
  2098.  
  2099. 430
  2100. 00:45:16,125 --> 00:45:19,750
  2101. they could judge your altitude,
  2102. your speed,
  2103.  
  2104. 431
  2105. 00:45:19,834 --> 00:45:22,125
  2106. and your direction.
  2107.  
  2108. 432
  2109. 00:45:28,709 --> 00:45:31,166
  2110. Harrison:
  2111. I think the worst
  2112. that I ever had--
  2113.  
  2114. 433
  2115. 00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:34,542
  2116. over Kassel, Germany,
  2117. I will never forget that one--
  2118.  
  2119. 434
  2120. 00:45:34,625 --> 00:45:36,750
  2121. it blew my windshield out
  2122.  
  2123. 435
  2124. 00:45:36,834 --> 00:45:40,792
  2125. and come into my face
  2126. at 160 miles an hour.
  2127.  
  2128. 436
  2129. 00:45:48,667 --> 00:45:51,291
  2130. Villagran:
  2131. You'd look at that flak
  2132. out there, and you'd swear
  2133.  
  2134. 437
  2135. 00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:54,250
  2136. you're not gonna
  2137. get through it...
  2138.  
  2139. 438
  2140. 00:45:54,333 --> 00:45:56,417
  2141. where the sky's almost black
  2142. with these things
  2143.  
  2144. 439
  2145. 00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:59,583
  2146. bustin' all over the place.
  2147.  
  2148. 440
  2149. 00:45:59,667 --> 00:46:03,333
  2150. It's amazing
  2151. we did make it through
  2152. as much as we did.
  2153.  
  2154. 441
  2155. 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:19,375
  2156. Villagran:
  2157. Well, we had a dog,
  2158.  
  2159. 442
  2160. 00:46:19,458 --> 00:46:22,208
  2161. and it looked more like a pig
  2162. than a dog. ( laughs )
  2163.  
  2164. 443
  2165. 00:46:22,291 --> 00:46:25,041
  2166. But it was our mascot.
  2167.  
  2168. 444
  2169. 00:46:32,458 --> 00:46:36,000
  2170. We had a stove
  2171. in the middle of the barracks,
  2172.  
  2173. 445
  2174. 00:46:36,083 --> 00:46:38,959
  2175. and we used to make sandwiches
  2176. on it and so forth.
  2177.  
  2178. 446
  2179. 00:46:39,041 --> 00:46:42,875
  2180. If the dog was around,
  2181. we'd feed him whatever
  2182. we had left over.
  2183.  
  2184. 447
  2185. 00:46:44,542 --> 00:46:47,000
  2186. He hung around the barracks
  2187. until we got back.
  2188.  
  2189. 448
  2190. 00:46:47,083 --> 00:46:49,625
  2191. Don't know if
  2192. he had a name or not.
  2193.  
  2194. 449
  2195. 00:46:49,709 --> 00:46:51,959
  2196. He was a faithful little dog.
  2197.  
  2198. 450
  2199. 00:46:52,041 --> 00:46:55,250
  2200. But it had a real wide nose.
  2201. ( laughs )
  2202.  
  2203. 451
  2204. 00:47:02,709 --> 00:47:05,250
  2205. Harrison:
  2206. Oh, you get superstitious.
  2207.  
  2208. 452
  2209. 00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:09,041
  2210. I remember I had to put on
  2211. a clean pair of socks
  2212.  
  2213. 453
  2214. 00:47:09,125 --> 00:47:11,333
  2215. the day I was shot down.
  2216.  
  2217. 454
  2218. 00:47:11,417 --> 00:47:15,875
  2219. I'd been wearing
  2220. the same pair of socks.
  2221.  
  2222. 455
  2223. 00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:20,125
  2224. Evidently, I think that the pup
  2225. got one of my socks
  2226.  
  2227. 456
  2228. 00:47:20,208 --> 00:47:22,834
  2229. and was chewing on it
  2230. and hid it,
  2231.  
  2232. 457
  2233. 00:47:22,917 --> 00:47:24,458
  2234. and I couldn't find it
  2235. that morning,
  2236.  
  2237. 458
  2238. 00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:27,417
  2239. I had to put on
  2240. a clean pair of socks.
  2241.  
  2242. 459
  2243. 00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,625
  2244. That might have been the reason
  2245. I was shot down.
  2246.  
  2247. 460
  2248. 00:47:32,417 --> 00:47:34,333
  2249. Kimmel:
  2250. You are to believe this or not,
  2251.  
  2252. 461
  2253. 00:47:34,417 --> 00:47:37,083
  2254. but somewheres around
  2255. the 10th or 12th mission,
  2256.  
  2257. 462
  2258. 00:47:37,166 --> 00:47:42,333
  2259. I got to a point, and I know
  2260. some of the other fellas
  2261. reached the same thing,
  2262.  
  2263. 463
  2264. 00:47:42,417 --> 00:47:44,750
  2265. that they were feeling blasé.
  2266.  
  2267. 464
  2268. 00:47:44,834 --> 00:47:46,792
  2269. "They didn't get us
  2270. up to here,
  2271.  
  2272. 465
  2273. 00:47:46,875 --> 00:47:49,542
  2274. they ain't gonna
  2275. get us hereon."
  2276.  
  2277. 466
  2278. 00:47:51,333 --> 00:47:54,291
  2279. Haedike:
  2280. I was somewhat superstitious.
  2281.  
  2282. 467
  2283. 00:47:54,375 --> 00:47:57,125
  2284. I always felt
  2285. God would bring me home--
  2286.  
  2287. 468
  2288. 00:47:57,208 --> 00:47:59,041
  2289. and I mean that sincerely--
  2290.  
  2291. 469
  2292. 00:47:59,125 --> 00:48:03,250
  2293. however, I wasn't sure
  2294. if it would be in one piece.
  2295.  
  2296. 470
  2297. 00:48:08,166 --> 00:48:10,917
  2298. I flew five days in a row.
  2299.  
  2300. 471
  2301. 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,542
  2302. Five missions.
  2303.  
  2304. 472
  2305. 00:48:12,625 --> 00:48:14,959
  2306. And I remember
  2307. by the fourth or fifth one,
  2308.  
  2309. 473
  2310. 00:48:15,041 --> 00:48:18,041
  2311. you really didn't care--
  2312. you were worn out.
  2313.  
  2314. 474
  2315. 00:48:18,125 --> 00:48:21,000
  2316. You wanted to get away from it.
  2317.  
  2318. 475
  2319. 00:48:21,083 --> 00:48:23,583
  2320. Toombs:
  2321. I saw a lot of 'em
  2322. break under pressure.
  2323.  
  2324. 476
  2325. 00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:28,208
  2326. Come back and told
  2327. the flight sergeant,
  2328. "I can't fly anymore."
  2329.  
  2330. 477
  2331. 00:48:28,291 --> 00:48:29,583
  2332. And they didn't.
  2333.  
  2334. 478
  2335. 00:48:29,667 --> 00:48:30,959
  2336. Nobody pointed
  2337. their finger at 'em
  2338.  
  2339. 479
  2340. 00:48:31,041 --> 00:48:32,625
  2341. and ridiculed 'em.
  2342.  
  2343. 480
  2344. 00:48:33,792 --> 00:48:35,458
  2345. Nobody.
  2346.  
  2347. 481
  2348. 00:49:15,208 --> 00:49:17,125
  2349. Kimmel:
  2350. Yes, the bomb run.
  2351.  
  2352. 482
  2353. 00:49:17,208 --> 00:49:18,750
  2354. That was the worst,
  2355.  
  2356. 483
  2357. 00:49:18,834 --> 00:49:21,792
  2358. 'cause you had to
  2359. keep everything steady.
  2360.  
  2361. 484
  2362. 00:49:23,208 --> 00:49:24,625
  2363. If you weren't on a bomb run,
  2364.  
  2365. 485
  2366. 00:49:24,709 --> 00:49:27,333
  2367. you could slide over
  2368. once in a while,
  2369.  
  2370. 486
  2371. 00:49:27,417 --> 00:49:29,792
  2372. that made 'em
  2373. think they'd miss ya.
  2374.  
  2375. 487
  2376. 00:49:29,875 --> 00:49:33,875
  2377. But on a bomb run, you just
  2378. had to set there and take it.
  2379.  
  2380. 488
  2381. 00:49:37,458 --> 00:49:40,917
  2382. Try to shrivel up,
  2383. I guess. ( laughs )
  2384.  
  2385. 489
  2386. 00:49:43,041 --> 00:49:46,083
  2387. Harrison:
  2388. The lead ship does it all.
  2389.  
  2390. 490
  2391. 00:49:46,166 --> 00:49:48,625
  2392. You just follow what he does.
  2393.  
  2394. 491
  2395. 00:49:48,709 --> 00:49:51,667
  2396. The lead ship, and then
  2397. the two on each side,
  2398.  
  2399. 492
  2400. 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:55,041
  2401. one down there and one up here
  2402. and around there.
  2403.  
  2404. 493
  2405. 00:49:59,709 --> 00:50:03,458
  2406. Toombs:
  2407. I was flyin' right above
  2408. the leader,
  2409.  
  2410. 494
  2411. 00:50:03,542 --> 00:50:05,625
  2412. and when you're watching him
  2413.  
  2414. 495
  2415. 00:50:05,709 --> 00:50:10,041
  2416. and you see that the bomb door
  2417. is open, then you open too.
  2418.  
  2419. 496
  2420. 00:50:10,125 --> 00:50:12,000
  2421. And then you wait
  2422. for him to drop bombs,
  2423.  
  2424. 497
  2425. 00:50:12,083 --> 00:50:14,291
  2426. and when he drops bombs,
  2427. then you drop 'em.
  2428.  
  2429. 498
  2430. 00:50:25,125 --> 00:50:27,333
  2431. Kimmel:
  2432. We can't change our altitude,
  2433.  
  2434. 499
  2435. 00:50:27,417 --> 00:50:29,500
  2436. and we can't change
  2437. our direction,
  2438.  
  2439. 500
  2440. 00:50:29,583 --> 00:50:32,750
  2441. and we're what you call
  2442. sitting ducks at that moment.
  2443.  
  2444. 501
  2445. 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:39,500
  2446. Harrison:
  2447. It was rough,
  2448. because any minute,
  2449.  
  2450. 502
  2451. 00:50:39,583 --> 00:50:41,583
  2452. you were gonna get hit.
  2453.  
  2454. 503
  2455. 00:52:02,834 --> 00:52:05,667
  2456. Kimmel:
  2457. The bombs are dropped,
  2458. bombs away,
  2459.  
  2460. 504
  2461. 00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:08,667
  2462. and the first thing
  2463. you hear is,
  2464.  
  2465. 505
  2466. 00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:11,792
  2467. "Let's get the hell
  2468. outta here."
  2469.  
  2470. 506
  2471. 00:52:11,875 --> 00:52:16,875
  2472. We make a sharp turn,
  2473. and the group follows the lead.
  2474.  
  2475. 507
  2476. 00:52:19,959 --> 00:52:21,417
  2477. Doyle:
  2478. After a while,
  2479.  
  2480. 508
  2481. 00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:23,500
  2482. fighter attacks
  2483. started coming in,
  2484.  
  2485. 509
  2486. 00:52:23,583 --> 00:52:26,208
  2487. and they didn't miss
  2488. very often.
  2489.  
  2490. 510
  2491. 00:52:35,041 --> 00:52:38,542
  2492. ( gun firing )
  2493.  
  2494. 511
  2495. 00:52:48,583 --> 00:52:50,792
  2496. Toombs:
  2497. They'd be out 20, 30 miles,
  2498.  
  2499. 512
  2500. 00:52:50,875 --> 00:52:54,208
  2501. and they'd come rush
  2502. straight at your level.
  2503.  
  2504. 513
  2505. 00:52:55,917 --> 00:52:58,583
  2506. ( firing )
  2507.  
  2508. 514
  2509. 00:53:01,291 --> 00:53:05,333
  2510. Harrison:
  2511. You couldn't hit anything
  2512. with those guns like that.
  2513.  
  2514. 515
  2515. 00:53:05,417 --> 00:53:08,792
  2516. By the time you saw a guy,
  2517. he was gone.
  2518.  
  2519. 516
  2520. 00:53:08,875 --> 00:53:11,875
  2521. You'd see one comin',
  2522. he's gone.
  2523.  
  2524. 517
  2525. 00:53:13,667 --> 00:53:15,750
  2526. ( machine-gunfire )
  2527.  
  2528. 518
  2529. 00:53:35,208 --> 00:53:39,166
  2530. Rowland:
  2531. You don't have much time
  2532. to shoot at 'em.
  2533.  
  2534. 519
  2535. 00:53:39,250 --> 00:53:42,500
  2536. If you get off a burst or two,
  2537. well, you're lucky,
  2538.  
  2539. 520
  2540. 00:53:42,583 --> 00:53:44,750
  2541. then they'd go zoop!
  2542.  
  2543. 521
  2544. 00:53:53,041 --> 00:53:55,250
  2545. ( machine-gunfire )
  2546.  
  2547. 522
  2548. 00:53:59,375 --> 00:54:02,959
  2549. ( firing )
  2550.  
  2551. 523
  2552. 00:54:03,041 --> 00:54:06,333
  2553. Toombs:
  2554. He'll drop off,
  2555. he'll fly down,
  2556.  
  2557. 524
  2558. 00:54:06,417 --> 00:54:08,291
  2559. and then he'll line up on ya.
  2560.  
  2561. 525
  2562. 00:54:08,375 --> 00:54:11,125
  2563. ( imitates gunfire )
  2564. Then he'll peel off.
  2565.  
  2566. 526
  2567. 00:54:21,667 --> 00:54:25,000
  2568. ( firing )
  2569.  
  2570. 527
  2571. 00:54:38,333 --> 00:54:40,834
  2572. ( gunfire continues )
  2573.  
  2574. 528
  2575. 00:54:48,959 --> 00:54:52,250
  2576. Harrison:
  2577. The copilot was hit pretty hard
  2578. when we were shot down.
  2579.  
  2580. 529
  2581. 00:54:52,333 --> 00:54:57,583
  2582. A 20-millimeter shell
  2583. popped right above his head
  2584.  
  2585. 530
  2586. 00:54:57,667 --> 00:54:59,750
  2587. and it knocked an eye out.
  2588.  
  2589. 531
  2590. 00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:07,458
  2591. So it was high noon,
  2592. an ME-109 was back there
  2593. blasting at us,
  2594.  
  2595. 532
  2596. 00:55:07,542 --> 00:55:12,208
  2597. and I heard the copilot,
  2598. he said, "Jesus Christ,
  2599.  
  2600. 533
  2601. 00:55:12,291 --> 00:55:15,500
  2602. number four's on fire.
  2603. Get out."
  2604.  
  2605. 534
  2606. 00:55:19,542 --> 00:55:22,583
  2607. When that thing is spinnin'
  2608. and headin' down,
  2609.  
  2610. 535
  2611. 00:55:22,667 --> 00:55:24,291
  2612. you were glued to your seat,
  2613.  
  2614. 536
  2615. 00:55:24,375 --> 00:55:26,750
  2616. you couldn't move
  2617. if you wanted to.
  2618.  
  2619. 537
  2620. 00:55:30,709 --> 00:55:34,417
  2621. Villagran:
  2622. And you're lucky if you see
  2623. two or three guys bail out.
  2624.  
  2625. 538
  2626. 00:55:37,709 --> 00:55:39,166
  2627. We would count the chutes,
  2628.  
  2629. 539
  2630. 00:55:39,250 --> 00:55:41,667
  2631. and usually if we
  2632. started to look too long
  2633.  
  2634. 540
  2635. 00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:43,583
  2636. after a ship
  2637. that was going down,
  2638.  
  2639. 541
  2640. 00:55:43,667 --> 00:55:46,333
  2641. the pilot would say,
  2642. "OK, guys, off--"
  2643.  
  2644. 542
  2645. 00:55:46,417 --> 00:55:47,792
  2646. We didn't want
  2647. to spend too much time
  2648.  
  2649. 543
  2650. 00:55:47,875 --> 00:55:49,667
  2651. looking at a plane going down
  2652.  
  2653. 544
  2654. 00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:52,917
  2655. when we had fighters
  2656. in the area and so forth.
  2657.  
  2658. 545
  2659. 00:56:01,083 --> 00:56:04,917
  2660. Harrison:
  2661. The gunners and the others
  2662. that were watching all the time
  2663.  
  2664. 546
  2665. 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,083
  2666. would tell ya, "Boy,
  2667. I don't think anybody got out
  2668. of that one, nobody got out,"
  2669.  
  2670. 547
  2671. 00:56:09,166 --> 00:56:13,542
  2672. and then sometimes
  2673. you'd see chutes
  2674. comin' out of 'em
  2675.  
  2676. 548
  2677. 00:56:13,625 --> 00:56:15,917
  2678. before they blew up
  2679. or anything.
  2680.  
  2681. 549
  2682. 00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:20,625
  2683. If you didn't
  2684. have your chute on
  2685.  
  2686. 550
  2687. 00:56:20,709 --> 00:56:24,000
  2688. and get out of there
  2689. in less than 30 seconds,
  2690.  
  2691. 551
  2692. 00:56:24,083 --> 00:56:25,458
  2693. you're gone.
  2694.  
  2695. 552
  2696. 00:56:27,083 --> 00:56:28,959
  2697. You're gone.
  2698.  
  2699. 553
  2700. 00:56:30,750 --> 00:56:36,125
  2701. And seven out of eleven
  2702. out of my crew got out alive...
  2703.  
  2704. 554
  2705. 00:56:36,208 --> 00:56:39,667
  2706. and one of 'em,
  2707. when he got on the ground,
  2708.  
  2709. 555
  2710. 00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:42,250
  2711. they pitchforked him to death.
  2712.  
  2713. 556
  2714. 00:56:43,917 --> 00:56:47,000
  2715. How could you kill a human
  2716. like that?
  2717.  
  2718. 557
  2719. 00:57:23,333 --> 00:57:27,250
  2720. Kimmel:
  2721. As we approached the field,
  2722. we set off flares.
  2723.  
  2724. 558
  2725. 00:57:27,333 --> 00:57:30,625
  2726. Red flares means
  2727. you have wounded aboard.
  2728.  
  2729. 559
  2730. 00:57:30,709 --> 00:57:32,917
  2731. Everybody else
  2732. gets out of the way
  2733.  
  2734. 560
  2735. 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,125
  2736. and the wounded comes in first.
  2737.  
  2738. 561
  2739. 00:58:24,458 --> 00:58:26,750
  2740. Kimmel:
  2741. To this day, I still see it.
  2742.  
  2743. 562
  2744. 00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:29,125
  2745. When I think of it,
  2746. I choke up.
  2747.  
  2748. 563
  2749. 00:58:29,208 --> 00:58:31,500
  2750. I can't help it,
  2751. they were friends of mine,
  2752.  
  2753. 564
  2754. 00:58:31,583 --> 00:58:34,959
  2755. they were good friends,
  2756. and it hurt so bad.
  2757.  
  2758. 565
  2759. 00:58:35,041 --> 00:58:38,875
  2760. Especially we all felt like:
  2761. "What a waste."
  2762.  
  2763. 566
  2764. 00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:47,333
  2765. With the job we had,
  2766. the chance of dying
  2767. was at least 50%.
  2768.  
  2769. 567
  2770. 00:58:47,417 --> 00:58:51,625
  2771. 50% chance of living,
  2772. 50% chance of dying.
  2773.  
  2774. 568
  2775. 00:58:55,375 --> 00:58:57,291
  2776. Haedike:
  2777. You know, a guy said,
  2778. "Your name's on it."
  2779.  
  2780. 569
  2781. 00:58:57,375 --> 00:58:59,333
  2782. Well, maybe it was.
  2783.  
  2784. 570
  2785. 00:58:59,417 --> 00:59:01,667
  2786. But it was scary.
  2787.  
  2788. 571
  2789. 00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:07,959
  2790. And I get very irritated
  2791. when I hear some of these guys
  2792. say, "I wasn't scared one bit."
  2793.  
  2794. 572
  2795. 00:59:08,041 --> 00:59:10,291
  2796. They're full of prunes.
  2797.  
  2798. 573
  2799. 00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:16,834
  2800. I was scared every time.
  2801.  
  2802. 574
  2803. 00:59:23,625 --> 00:59:26,208
  2804. Kimmel:
  2805. I went out to a ship one time
  2806.  
  2807. 575
  2808. 00:59:26,291 --> 00:59:28,750
  2809. when they were taking
  2810. a young fella off,
  2811.  
  2812. 576
  2813. 00:59:28,834 --> 00:59:32,125
  2814. and I thought
  2815. I could help them.
  2816.  
  2817. 577
  2818. 00:59:34,208 --> 00:59:36,417
  2819. The guy they were pulling
  2820. out of the ship...
  2821.  
  2822. 578
  2823. 00:59:39,625 --> 00:59:43,166
  2824. ( voice breaking ) ...he was
  2825. calling for his mother.
  2826.  
  2827. 579
  2828. 01:00:33,250 --> 01:00:37,291
  2829. Haedike:
  2830. In about late 1944,
  2831.  
  2832. 580
  2833. 01:00:37,375 --> 01:00:40,458
  2834. the Allies decided
  2835.  
  2836. 581
  2837. 01:00:40,542 --> 01:00:44,041
  2838. to do away
  2839. with precision bombing.
  2840.  
  2841. 582
  2842. 01:00:45,875 --> 01:00:48,333
  2843. We went to pattern bombing.
  2844.  
  2845. 583
  2846. 01:00:50,041 --> 01:00:52,375
  2847. Unfortunately, it killed
  2848. a lot of people,
  2849.  
  2850. 584
  2851. 01:00:52,458 --> 01:00:57,208
  2852. but brought the war to a close
  2853. about a year sooner.
  2854.  
  2855. 585
  2856. 01:01:06,583 --> 01:01:09,500
  2857. Doyle:
  2858. The United States military
  2859.  
  2860. 586
  2861. 01:01:09,583 --> 01:01:13,500
  2862. did not go out
  2863. to carpet-bomb civilians
  2864. or anything.
  2865.  
  2866. 587
  2867. 01:01:13,583 --> 01:01:16,041
  2868. They went out
  2869. to bomb factories,
  2870.  
  2871. 588
  2872. 01:01:16,125 --> 01:01:18,333
  2873. rail yards, refineries,
  2874.  
  2875. 589
  2876. 01:01:18,417 --> 01:01:20,750
  2877. and places that had something
  2878. to do with the war.
  2879.  
  2880. 590
  2881. 01:01:20,834 --> 01:01:23,542
  2882. I don't think that
  2883. I felt bad about that at all.
  2884.  
  2885. 591
  2886. 01:01:23,625 --> 01:01:25,750
  2887. That's what we were
  2888. supposed to do.
  2889.  
  2890. 592
  2891. 01:01:25,834 --> 01:01:29,959
  2892. But toward the end of the war,
  2893. the Germans would not give up.
  2894.  
  2895. 593
  2896. 01:01:50,375 --> 01:01:52,000
  2897. Toombs:
  2898. Never thought a thing about it.
  2899.  
  2900. 594
  2901. 01:01:52,083 --> 01:01:55,166
  2902. We didn't think about people
  2903. being down there.
  2904.  
  2905. 595
  2906. 01:01:56,417 --> 01:01:57,875
  2907. That never crossed my mind,
  2908.  
  2909. 596
  2910. 01:01:57,959 --> 01:02:00,458
  2911. about a human being
  2912. bein' down there.
  2913.  
  2914. 597
  2915. 01:02:11,834 --> 01:02:14,709
  2916. Alexander:
  2917. Never gave it a thought,
  2918. they just Germans,
  2919.  
  2920. 598
  2921. 01:02:14,792 --> 01:02:17,625
  2922. you know, and I never
  2923. gave it a thought.
  2924.  
  2925. 599
  2926. 01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:30,917
  2927. Doyle:
  2928. For some reason,
  2929. I didn't hate 'em.
  2930.  
  2931. 600
  2932. 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,750
  2933. If I had a fighter plane
  2934.  
  2935. 601
  2936. 01:02:32,834 --> 01:02:35,333
  2937. come within
  2938. shooting-me distance,
  2939.  
  2940. 602
  2941. 01:02:35,417 --> 01:02:39,875
  2942. my thought was, "This kid
  2943. probably wanted to live
  2944. as bad as you did."
  2945.  
  2946. 603
  2947. 01:02:42,166 --> 01:02:44,625
  2948. I really didn't have
  2949. any hate for 'em.
  2950.  
  2951. 604
  2952. 01:02:44,709 --> 01:02:46,458
  2953. I was just scared of 'em.
  2954.  
  2955. 605
  2956. 01:02:50,291 --> 01:02:52,166
  2957. Kimmel:
  2958. Never gave it a thought.
  2959.  
  2960. 606
  2961. 01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:54,583
  2962. I honestly
  2963. never gave it a thought.
  2964.  
  2965. 607
  2966. 01:02:54,667 --> 01:02:57,333
  2967. I just felt this way:
  2968.  
  2969. 608
  2970. 01:02:57,417 --> 01:02:59,083
  2971. "They're gonna do it to us,
  2972.  
  2973. 609
  2974. 01:02:59,166 --> 01:03:01,625
  2975. we better do it to them
  2976. before they do it to us."
  2977.  
  2978. 610
  2979. 01:03:01,709 --> 01:03:04,500
  2980. And that's the way I felt,
  2981. and I couldn't help it.
  2982.  
  2983. 611
  2984. 01:03:44,333 --> 01:03:48,458
  2985. Interviewer:
  2986. Bring any thoughts,
  2987. seeing that?
  2988.  
  2989. 612
  2990. 01:03:48,542 --> 01:03:52,542
  2991. Toombs:
  2992. Well, I drifted off into
  2993. several thoughts. ( laughs )
  2994.  
  2995. 613
  2996. 01:03:52,625 --> 01:03:56,000
  2997. Most of 'em, you know, uh...
  2998.  
  2999. 614
  3000. 01:03:56,083 --> 01:03:58,500
  3001. were bad thoughts when
  3002. you're lookin' at a mission.
  3003.  
  3004. 615
  3005. 01:03:58,583 --> 01:04:03,500
  3006. I see what took place
  3007. on that mission,
  3008.  
  3009. 616
  3010. 01:04:03,583 --> 01:04:07,208
  3011. and your mind drifts back
  3012. to those times, you know.
  3013.  
  3014. 617
  3015. 01:04:22,875 --> 01:04:25,625
  3016. Doyle:
  3017. We had a lot
  3018. of midair collisions.
  3019.  
  3020. 618
  3021. 01:04:25,709 --> 01:04:28,500
  3022. Some guys would get mixed up,
  3023. pilots,
  3024.  
  3025. 619
  3026. 01:04:28,583 --> 01:04:33,000
  3027. and they'd start flying...
  3028. the wrong direction and so on.
  3029.  
  3030. 620
  3031. 01:04:33,083 --> 01:04:37,000
  3032. But the scary part
  3033. of most of our missions
  3034.  
  3035. 621
  3036. 01:04:37,083 --> 01:04:39,125
  3037. was just getting through
  3038. all of that.
  3039.  
  3040. 622
  3041. 01:04:41,542 --> 01:04:46,041
  3042. Interviewer:
  3043. Did it get easier or harder
  3044. as you flew more missions?
  3045.  
  3046. 623
  3047. 01:04:46,125 --> 01:04:49,417
  3048. Doyle:
  3049. I just-- Like I say,
  3050. I was scared to death.
  3051.  
  3052. 624
  3053. 01:04:49,500 --> 01:04:53,667
  3054. But, uh...
  3055. those were not good days.
  3056.  
  3057. 625
  3058. 01:05:04,458 --> 01:05:07,709
  3059. There was no radio
  3060. communication at all.
  3061.  
  3062. 626
  3063. 01:05:07,792 --> 01:05:11,125
  3064. We had the intercom goin'
  3065. all the time, though.
  3066.  
  3067. 627
  3068. 01:05:11,208 --> 01:05:14,834
  3069. I'd check in with the man
  3070. with the oxygen mask on,
  3071.  
  3072. 628
  3073. 01:05:14,917 --> 01:05:18,792
  3074. make sure their oxygen
  3075. was flowing right.
  3076.  
  3077. 629
  3078. 01:05:18,875 --> 01:05:20,500
  3079. Especially the tail gunner,
  3080.  
  3081. 630
  3082. 01:05:20,583 --> 01:05:23,959
  3083. he was layin' back there
  3084. by himself so much.
  3085.  
  3086. 631
  3087. 01:05:31,792 --> 01:05:35,500
  3088. Harrison:
  3089. You got very close with
  3090. the men and everything.
  3091.  
  3092. 632
  3093. 01:05:35,583 --> 01:05:38,041
  3094. And they're all young kids.
  3095.  
  3096. 633
  3097. 01:05:42,208 --> 01:05:45,166
  3098. They're all dead now,
  3099. I'm sure.
  3100.  
  3101. 634
  3102. 01:05:56,709 --> 01:05:58,125
  3103. When you're that high up,
  3104.  
  3105. 635
  3106. 01:05:58,208 --> 01:06:01,834
  3107. everything on the ground
  3108. looks like a little toy.
  3109.  
  3110. 636
  3111. 01:06:01,917 --> 01:06:04,667
  3112. If you see a truck or something,
  3113.  
  3114. 637
  3115. 01:06:04,750 --> 01:06:06,709
  3116. it really looks small.
  3117.  
  3118. 638
  3119. 01:06:08,333 --> 01:06:12,000
  3120. It was hard,
  3121. but you had to do it.
  3122.  
  3123. 639
  3124. 01:06:12,083 --> 01:06:15,875
  3125. We had to get rid of Hitler,
  3126. and so we did it.
  3127.  
  3128. 640
  3129. 01:06:28,208 --> 01:06:32,542
  3130. You guys know that some bombs
  3131. went through the wings of B-17s?
  3132.  
  3133. 641
  3134. 01:06:33,875 --> 01:06:35,875
  3135. I always wondered
  3136. how in the world--
  3137.  
  3138. 642
  3139. 01:06:35,959 --> 01:06:38,041
  3140. They were out of position...
  3141.  
  3142. 643
  3143. 01:06:38,125 --> 01:06:40,041
  3144. in the formation.
  3145.  
  3146. 644
  3147. 01:06:41,375 --> 01:06:44,208
  3148. God's been good to me.
  3149.  
  3150. 645
  3151. 01:06:44,291 --> 01:06:47,291
  3152. First of all,
  3153. he's given me 70 years
  3154.  
  3155. 646
  3156. 01:06:47,375 --> 01:06:49,333
  3157. with that lady over there,
  3158.  
  3159. 647
  3160. 01:06:49,417 --> 01:06:52,083
  3161. and we have a wonderful family.
  3162.  
  3163. 648
  3164. 01:06:56,291 --> 01:06:57,917
  3165. We have six kids
  3166.  
  3167. 649
  3168. 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,667
  3169. and we have 20 grandkids,
  3170. 22 great-grandkids.
  3171.  
  3172. 650
  3173. 01:07:01,750 --> 01:07:05,750
  3174. So we've been
  3175. a very blessed family.
  3176.  
  3177. 651
  3178. 01:07:05,834 --> 01:07:09,083
  3179. I didn't say I want 'em all
  3180. at the house at once.
  3181.  
  3182. 652
  3183. 01:07:16,208 --> 01:07:18,667
  3184. Interviewer:
  3185. What do you think
  3186. about "The Good War"
  3187.  
  3188. 653
  3189. 01:07:18,750 --> 01:07:20,709
  3190. and "You're
  3191. the Greatest Generation"?
  3192.  
  3193. 654
  3194. 01:07:23,125 --> 01:07:27,375
  3195. Villagran:
  3196. Well... ( laughs )
  3197. I'm beginning to believe it.
  3198.  
  3199. 655
  3200. 01:07:27,458 --> 01:07:29,125
  3201. ( laughing )
  3202.  
  3203. 656
  3204. 01:07:30,375 --> 01:07:32,667
  3205. Does that make sense to ya?
  3206.  
  3207. 657
  3208. 01:07:34,917 --> 01:07:39,458
  3209. You kind of grew up 10 years
  3210. when you went into that thing.
  3211.  
  3212. 658
  3213. 01:07:41,083 --> 01:07:44,208
  3214. And when I came back home,
  3215.  
  3216. 659
  3217. 01:07:44,291 --> 01:07:47,125
  3218. I didn't feel like
  3219. the same man anymore.
  3220.  
  3221. 660
  3222. 01:07:54,625 --> 01:07:58,333
  3223. Interviewer:
  3224. What do you say to people
  3225. who say, "John, you're a hero.
  3226.  
  3227. 661
  3228. 01:07:58,417 --> 01:07:59,917
  3229. You're a hero"?
  3230.  
  3231. 662
  3232. 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,625
  3233. Ketzner:
  3234. I say, "OK,
  3235. you're probably right."
  3236.  
  3237. 663
  3238. 01:08:01,709 --> 01:08:04,542
  3239. ( laughing )
  3240. I don't know what else to say.
  3241.  
  3242. 664
  3243. 01:08:04,625 --> 01:08:07,041
  3244. I wasn't one
  3245. of the hero-heroes,
  3246.  
  3247. 665
  3248. 01:08:07,125 --> 01:08:10,625
  3249. the guys that finish
  3250. their tour and sign up
  3251. for another one,
  3252.  
  3253. 666
  3254. 01:08:10,709 --> 01:08:13,667
  3255. I wasn't them kind of heroes.
  3256. ( laughing )
  3257.  
  3258. 667
  3259. 01:08:15,792 --> 01:08:17,917
  3260. Alexander:
  3261. But I want it clearly known:
  3262.  
  3263. 668
  3264. 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,792
  3265. I do not profess myself
  3266. to be a hero.
  3267.  
  3268. 669
  3269. 01:08:20,875 --> 01:08:23,417
  3270. I was the pilot;
  3271.  
  3272. 670
  3273. 01:08:23,500 --> 01:08:27,750
  3274. the heroes are buried in
  3275. England, Germany, and France.
  3276.  
  3277. 671
  3278. 01:08:27,834 --> 01:08:31,041
  3279. The boys didn't make it,
  3280. they're the heroes.
  3281.  
  3282. 672
  3283. 01:08:31,125 --> 01:08:33,333
  3284. I was just a normal pilot.
  3285.  
  3286. 673
  3287. 01:08:52,917 --> 01:08:55,542
  3288. This is called pattern bombing.
  3289.  
  3290. 674
  3291. 01:09:02,041 --> 01:09:04,542
  3292. Interviewer:
  3293. No offense, but you guys
  3294. aren't getting any younger.
  3295.  
  3296. 675
  3297. 01:09:04,625 --> 01:09:06,250
  3298. Why do you think
  3299. it's important
  3300.  
  3301. 676
  3302. 01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:09,083
  3303. that people know
  3304. what you guys did?
  3305.  
  3306. 677
  3307. 01:09:11,375 --> 01:09:12,959
  3308. Kimmel:
  3309. Well, for one thing,
  3310.  
  3311. 678
  3312. 01:09:13,041 --> 01:09:14,917
  3313. we don't want it
  3314. to to happen again,
  3315.  
  3316. 679
  3317. 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,458
  3318. in fact or in fancy.
  3319.  
  3320. 680
  3321. 01:09:18,542 --> 01:09:20,500
  3322. We just don't want it
  3323. to happen again,
  3324.  
  3325. 681
  3326. 01:09:20,583 --> 01:09:25,709
  3327. for my grandson,
  3328. my granddaughters
  3329. and their husbands.
  3330.  
  3331. 682
  3332. 01:09:28,583 --> 01:09:32,750
  3333. I don't want to see them
  3334. have to face what we did.
  3335.  
  3336. 683
  3337. 01:10:05,583 --> 01:10:07,250
  3338. ( wheels skidding )
  3339.  
  3340. 684
  3341. 01:10:11,959 --> 01:10:14,959
  3342. ( film projector running )
  3343.  
  3344. 685
  3345. 01:10:19,625 --> 01:10:22,792
  3346. Haedike:
  3347. I cannot say it
  3348. much more eloquently--
  3349.  
  3350. 686
  3351. 01:10:22,875 --> 01:10:25,792
  3352. it was a hazardous profession.
  3353.  
  3354. 687
  3355. 01:10:27,834 --> 01:10:31,208
  3356. OK, up at altitude and,
  3357. of course, bombs away and all,
  3358.  
  3359. 688
  3360. 01:10:31,291 --> 01:10:32,792
  3361. and you got this on,
  3362.  
  3363. 689
  3364. 01:10:32,875 --> 01:10:35,166
  3365. I think fear
  3366. more than anything,
  3367.  
  3368. 690
  3369. 01:10:35,250 --> 01:10:38,208
  3370. you'd perspire and sweat.
  3371.  
  3372. 691
  3373. 01:10:38,291 --> 01:10:40,333
  3374. You got this on.
  3375.  
  3376. 692
  3377. 01:10:40,417 --> 01:10:43,500
  3378. Ice would form,
  3379. and you'd take a deep breath
  3380.  
  3381. 693
  3382. 01:10:43,583 --> 01:10:46,500
  3383. and break the ice
  3384. out of the oxygen mask.
  3385.  
  3386. 694
  3387. 01:10:46,583 --> 01:10:49,083
  3388. And then put it back on.
  3389.  
  3390. 695
  3391. 01:10:51,667 --> 01:10:55,333
  3392. This is Bud
  3393. trying to get down on the floor.
  3394.  
  3395. 696
  3396. 01:10:55,417 --> 01:10:57,417
  3397. This is the Mae West.
  3398.  
  3399. 697
  3400. 01:10:57,500 --> 01:10:59,917
  3401. Remember I told ya
  3402. about the oxygen?
  3403.  
  3404. 698
  3405. 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,125
  3406. I mean, the CO2 cylinder?
  3407.  
  3408. 699
  3409. 01:11:02,208 --> 01:11:05,083
  3410. This is it.
  3411. There it is.
  3412.  
  3413. 700
  3414. 01:11:05,166 --> 01:11:07,083
  3415. CO2 cylinder.
  3416.  
  3417. 701
  3418. 01:11:07,166 --> 01:11:10,583
  3419. This was before
  3420. underarm deodorant,
  3421. hair spray--
  3422.  
  3423. 702
  3424. 01:11:10,667 --> 01:11:14,834
  3425. I think this was the birth
  3426. of aerosol containers.
  3427.  
  3428. 703
  3429. 01:11:14,917 --> 01:11:18,917
  3430. And if guys bailed out,
  3431. they didn't want it
  3432. totally inflated
  3433.  
  3434. 704
  3435. 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,750
  3436. couple hundred feet up,
  3437.  
  3438. 705
  3439. 01:11:20,834 --> 01:11:24,583
  3440. because if they hit the water,
  3441. they could break their backs.
  3442.  
  3443. 706
  3444. 01:11:24,667 --> 01:11:27,083
  3445. So it wasn't that easy.
  3446. I never did it.
  3447.  
  3448. 707
  3449. 01:11:27,166 --> 01:11:28,917
  3450. This is a throat mic.
  3451.  
  3452. 708
  3453. 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,333
  3454. This is how
  3455. I talked to Eric.
  3456.  
  3457. 709
  3458. 01:11:31,417 --> 01:11:32,917
  3459. And this plugged in.
  3460.  
  3461. 710
  3462. 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,709
  3463. And as I showed ya
  3464. on the helmet,
  3465.  
  3466. 711
  3467. 01:11:35,792 --> 01:11:37,291
  3468. this is how I heard.
  3469.  
  3470. 712
  3471. 01:11:37,375 --> 01:11:39,458
  3472. So we had
  3473. our communication system.
  3474.  
  3475. 713
  3476. 01:11:39,542 --> 01:11:41,291
  3477. Interviewer:
  3478. But, Bud, to be clear,
  3479.  
  3480. 714
  3481. 01:11:41,375 --> 01:11:44,208
  3482. this should have been returned
  3483. to the government in 1945.
  3484.  
  3485. 715
  3486. 01:11:44,291 --> 01:11:46,458
  3487. ( laughing )
  3488.  
  3489. 716
  3490. 01:11:46,542 --> 01:11:48,417
  3491. Come and get 'em, baby.
  3492.  
  3493. 717
  3494. 01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:50,542
  3495. Interviewer:
  3496. What we just did with you
  3497.  
  3498. 718
  3499. 01:11:50,625 --> 01:11:52,333
  3500. might be the credit roll
  3501. to our movie,
  3502.  
  3503. 719
  3504. 01:11:52,417 --> 01:11:53,959
  3505. so you have any messages
  3506. for people
  3507.  
  3508. 720
  3509. 01:11:54,041 --> 01:11:55,709
  3510. that just watched
  3511. this movie?
  3512.  
  3513. 721
  3514. 01:11:55,792 --> 01:11:59,792
  3515. Well, I'm just so glad
  3516. that people in America,
  3517.  
  3518. 722
  3519. 01:11:59,875 --> 01:12:04,625
  3520. or anywhere,
  3521. can get an idea what 19 and 20
  3522.  
  3523. 723
  3524. 01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:07,417
  3525. and 21-year-old kids
  3526. went through,
  3527.  
  3528. 724
  3529. 01:12:07,500 --> 01:12:10,875
  3530. and as I tell kids
  3531. when I get done with my talk,
  3532.  
  3533. 725
  3534. 01:12:10,959 --> 01:12:13,667
  3535. "I'm gonna ask you guys
  3536. a favor now."
  3537.  
  3538. 726
  3539. 01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:15,166
  3540. "What's that, Bud?"
  3541.  
  3542. 727
  3543. 01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:16,542
  3544. "When you go home tonight,
  3545.  
  3546. 728
  3547. 01:12:16,625 --> 01:12:19,125
  3548. you say a prayer of thanks
  3549. to God
  3550.  
  3551. 729
  3552. 01:12:19,208 --> 01:12:22,709
  3553. for those 28,000 guys
  3554. that gave their lives
  3555.  
  3556. 730
  3557. 01:12:22,792 --> 01:12:25,542
  3558. so that you got
  3559. the life you got today."
  3560.  
  3561. 731
  3562. 01:12:27,917 --> 01:12:29,333
  3563. Interviewer:
  3564. Well, thank you
  3565. for your service, Bud.
  3566.  
  3567. 732
  3568. 01:12:29,417 --> 01:12:31,250
  3569. Haedike:
  3570. Not at all. Not at all.
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