ZenToday at 4:02 PM
if we have server convos can we have them all in exec
so i don't have to repeat
moonyToday at 4:02 PM
Or something like that
Ok
ZenToday at 4:03 PM
thx
:upside_down:
trying to keep stuff horganized
whoreganized
moonyToday at 4:03 PM
Yeah
ZenToday at 4:03 PM
I BROKE MY HELLO KITTY RAZER
my xacto :(((((
moonyToday at 4:03 PM
I don’t want to talk in there Bc I can’t revise it for Charlie
Like I’d need to be on my comp and preferably home
It’s a lot more energy
And it’s fine I’m adapting but i can’t just flow in there w ideas etc
ZenToday at 4:05 PM
well how about
we make lair into a second business
where you can flow, charlie can browse if you wants
he wants*
and then you can do whatever you usually do
moonyToday at 4:05 PM
Hmm
I guess so
ZenToday at 4:05 PM
worth a shot?
up to you
moonyToday at 4:05 PM
Don’t want to type a ton to be ignored
But we can test it out
ZenToday at 4:06 PM
i mean i read it
moonyToday at 4:06 PM
I have a bunch of noted and paragraphs for the guidebook
ZenToday at 4:06 PM
then like he can see what's said and we filter
oh good
i hit a wall with it
moonyToday at 4:06 PM
And I plan to rewrite the mod guidelines like I did the support guidelines
I mean maybe he should be partially responsible for adapting
Like do it for himself some of the time
ZenToday at 4:07 PM
can ask
moonyToday at 4:07 PM
Bc this much revision is a bit excessive
And considering he’s been a dick to me
And literally not said a word
Even about the formatting or discussing things at all
So
I’m not going to continuously do that Bc it’s basically writing out proposals myself and then presenting them
Like he needs to meet me half way
And it’s been like an eternity since I’ve asked to discuss things or talk through anything
Considering he blatantly ignored what I wrote and was like stop and demanded different
When he had never mentioned it before
Like this is the same shit over and over
And he can’t just ignore whatever he wants
Or I guess he can and I am constantly the bad guy and blamed by him for pretty massive things
So I’m done reaching out until he comes to me
Which is unlikely
Also I wrote about a page or so for the handbook I want to build
But I have to see where it all fits in a flow
ZenToday at 4:11 PM
sorry i'm just talking to lily
moonyToday at 4:11 PM
It’s fine
I feel like we are perpetually repeating everything
Which in the past has resulted in negatives
Even with the guidebook I want to build and the PowerPoint he didn’t want to participate
Even in respect to the bots
Which is fine but then he shouldn’t get upset
Bc he gets passed and just like Eli stays pissed and ignores everything which is actually personally rude and then harnesses resentment for shit like nana and Eli
Either he talks to me
Or I’m not going to put the energy into revising everything
Bc I’ve been consistently trying to reach out and it’s rejected as if I didn’t say a word
I don’t think people realize how much I read of mod biz especially but the server
ZenToday at 4:16 PM
find a time
moonyToday at 4:16 PM
A time to what
ZenToday at 4:16 PM
talk to him
moonyToday at 4:17 PM
You keep saying you’ve spoken to him and he’s going to respond which tbh you shouldn’t have to ask
And it never happens
ZenToday at 4:17 PM
i have asked that and while you've been mia he's been mia as well
moonyToday at 4:17 PM
Lol
ZenToday at 4:17 PM
bc he's been super depressed
so until today he's been hiding
moonyToday at 4:17 PM
Ok
But this has been going on for like 6 months
So
Whatever
I did what I could
Not gonna bend over backwards for someone who literally is ignoring me
Like this isn’t new
Like if we can’t simply speak in exec what is the point of having an exec team
I feel like I’m hitting a point where I don’t have as much time but I still spend at least a couple hours on haven usually just reading and catching myself up mostly on mods and less so bots
And like if nobody wants to progress and move forward and build it
It’s hard to keep putting in work
ZenToday at 4:21 PM
That's really unfair to say
moonyToday at 4:21 PM
How so?
ZenToday at 4:21 PM
that nobody wants to progress and move forward
hello?
moonyToday at 4:21 PM
People seem resistant
ZenToday at 4:21 PM
who are  "people"
moonyToday at 4:22 PM
You and Charlie
ZenToday at 4:22 PM
ok so say me and charlie, and we're not resistent
moonyToday at 4:22 PM
I did and I just feel like it doesn’t matter what I say
ZenToday at 4:22 PM
it's really just invalidating for you to say i don't want my own t hing to progress
moonyToday at 4:22 PM
Bc it’s been this dynamic for like ages
ZenToday at 4:22 PM
and you're the only one working
like screw that
no i'm sorryr
i've been here all week by myself
moonyToday at 4:22 PM
I didn’t say I’m the only one working
I said I spend time
ZenToday at 4:22 PM
and doing shit, getting things done, making changes
i can't make charlie like you
i don't have that power
moonyToday at 4:23 PM
Dude I’m not negating your work
ZenToday at 4:23 PM
and i can ask him to talk to you but that only goes as far as he does
moonyToday at 4:23 PM
I support it
ZenToday at 4:23 PM
you say that, but you don't say that
moonyToday at 4:23 PM
Well he doesn’t have to like me to work together
This is my point
It’s so consumed by interpersonal shit
That I feel is holding back like legit goals
And please keep in mind I have been working too and I never have once said you don’t work
I have said the opposite
Even when you feel otherwise
Even the handbook and rephrasing was my idea and something I wanted to give back that I thought was helpful and made sense to me especially after the support guidelines which just was a good guide for me too
So yeah I’ve been afk
Bc I have work
But I also come home and work on haven
Even if it’s not in the same capacity of being on here 24/7
Like you saying I haven’t been here and you have all week is also invalidating considering that what you’re working on now was my idea and I thought would be helpful and writing up a lot of stuff especially for Charlie
Like I couldn’t make today’s meeting and it’s a detriment but it’s not as if I don’t review it
Like I get it and get you’re upset and I don’t expect and never intended to have it change for me
If anything I was encouraging and suggesting we do fluid drop in revamps for people
And I didn’t mean to imply that you weren’t working or progressing
It was in reference to primarily Charlie and solely he exec team
Bc it hasn’t
Imo
ZenToday at 4:31 PM
alright. i'm really not clear headed about this rn