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--- Log opened Mon Aug 26 19:12:41 2013
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19:13 < Akumu_Honda> ((Well it started off as a personal dispute of sorts))
19:13 <@Sayuno> I'll be listening to a song while we wait for people to fill this place~
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19:13 < Koakuma> I can provide a log if it's needed
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19:14 < Mootsies|Phone> I'll need it, thank you.
19:14 <@Sayuno> Koakuma is secretly a lumberjack~
19:14 < Koakuma> my logs folder is actually called "bigheavywood"
19:14 < Koakuma> 'cause it's log, it's log, etc
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19:16 <@Sayuno> Eh, whatever, let's go.
19:16 <@Sayuno> A little while ago, I dropped this beauty here:
19:16 <@Sayuno> http://forum.gensoukyoueasternstory.net/showthread.php?tid=109
19:16 < Koakuma> http://pastebin.com/2rmCG2kn
19:16 < Koakuma> yon log
19:16 < Koakuma> for evidence's sake
19:17 <@Sayuno> It caused a fair stir amongst the community.
19:17 < Koakuma> it'd be silly to start laying down rules without seeing the actual incident, so that's what happened from my point of view
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19:17 < Koakuma> you should read it before passing judgment
19:17 < Nitori_Kawashiro> What happened?
19:17 <@Sayuno> Hmm?
19:17 < Koakuma> it's everything that happened up to Haiiro muting the channel
19:17 < Koakuma> the bulk of the incident
19:17 < Koakuma> http://pastebin.com/2rmCG2kn
19:17 <@Sayuno> We're discussing what this community should be.
19:17 <@Sayuno> But okay.
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19:17 <@Sayuno> AS I WAS SAYING
19:17 < Momiji_Inubashiri> ok
19:17 < Koakuma> Yeah, but. You should see what it was that caused this debate
19:17 <@Sayuno> Yes, yes, that's all good but I'm monologuing.
19:18 <@Sayuno> If that's how it's spelled.
19:18 <@Sayuno> http://forum.gensoukyoueasternstory.net/showthread.php?tid=109
19:18 <@Sayuno> This beauty right here.
19:18  * Momiji_Inubashiri doesnt quite get what happened as she was not paying attention at the time, so she will largely remain quiet
19:18 <@Sayuno> Caused a fair bit of a stir etc.
19:18 <@Sayuno> --
19:18 < Koakuma> log, again: http://pastebin.com/2rmCG2kn
19:18 < Mootsies|Phone> ...let sayuna talk, people.
19:18 <@Sayuno> Okay then!
19:18 < Mootsies|Phone> *sayuno
19:18 <@Sayuno> So what was important about this here forum post?
19:19 < Mootsies|Phone> It defines what we want to be as a community.
19:19 < Akumu_Honda> We made a choice.
19:19 < Mootsies|Phone> And with the decision comes the responsibility, etc, etc.
19:20 <@Sayuno> Ehhhh, something like that.
19:20 < Zuren> That there was a general concensus?
19:20 <@Sayuno> I was going along the lines of, "People voted for a leader who was being quite a jerk at the time."
19:21 < Masaaki_Kagura> So that was you not on a good day then, Sayuno?
19:21 <@Sayuno> In that one letter, I described us as: "a fuck-around-and-do-nothing-particularly-interesting-all-day community"
19:21 <@Sayuno> No, I was in a pretty good mood while writing this.
19:21 <@Sayuno> I was just acting mean.
19:21 <@Sayuno> But unfortunately no-one picked up on it.
19:22 <@Sayuno> As I was saying.
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19:23 <@Sayuno> I also talk about forcing people who aren't here to RP to leave, I describe myself as being ruthless, I wont stand for idleness, I will forcibly strip characters from people who can't play them to my standard.
19:23 <@Sayuno> AKA, you voted for an asshole to come in to power.
19:23 <@Sayuno> Had you voted for the other option; the community would not have changed at all.
19:24 < Koakuma> It would have, though.
19:24 <@Sayuno> It wouldn't have.
19:24 < Zuren> And would that have been good?
19:24 <@Sayuno> I left most large community decisions to be decided by the community.
19:24 <@Sayuno> I don't know.
19:24 < Koakuma> You specified that you would stop being our leader, that the vetting process for characters would go away, that the wiki and forums would have been converted to Q&A data-center, that you wouldn't have a part in it
19:24 <@Sayuno> If you people wanted to fool around in the main channel, you could have.
19:24 < Koakuma> that'd be a big change
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19:25 <@Sayuno> If you people wnated to RP freely to your hearts content, you could have.
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19:26 <@Sayuno> That would have happened, but who's to say someone couldn't have gone, "Hey, Nazeo, we'd like this, that, and this, is that possible?"
19:26 <@Sayuno> And he'll probably try hard to make it happen.
19:26 <@Sayuno> But anywho.
19:26 <@Sayuno> That's in the past.
19:26 <@Sayuno> I was voted in to power, and today I am here to lay down the laws.
19:27 <@Sayuno> Err...
19:27 <@Sayuno> The laws!
19:27 <@Sayuno> http://wiki.gensoukyoueasternstory.net/House_Rules#IRC_Rules
19:27 <@Sayuno> But that's not going to help anything.
19:28  * Nitori_Kawashiro sighs.
19:28 <@Sayuno> So instead, I'm going to say this.
19:28 < Nitori_Kawashiro> This is all going to hell in a handbasket.
19:28 <@Sayuno> This place is an RP community. There is no other way about it.
19:28  * Sayuno hangs Nitori out to dry.
19:28 <@Sayuno> No it's not!
19:28 < Nitori_Kawashiro> D:
19:28  * Nitori_Kawashiro is stuck!
19:29 < Nitori_Kawashiro> I was pretty involved in the recent plot shenanigans with Miko. :>
19:29 <@Sayuno> Now I'd like to discuss what rights you have when it comes to being here.
19:30 <@Sayuno> One big problem that comes up is people don't quite understand what is acceptable and unnacceptable in OOC.
19:30 <@Sayuno> The following is acceptable:
19:30 <@Sayuno> "Hey, we should RP."
19:30 <@Sayuno> "Hey, I have some ideas about my character. Who else things that..."
19:30 <@Sayuno> "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if there was some plot like..."
19:31 <@Sayuno> "Hey, I've got a fantastic plot idea, lets..."
19:31 <@Sayuno> The following is unnacceptable:
19:31 <@Sayuno> "Hey, did you guys watch the latest batman trailer?"
19:31 <@Sayuno> "Hey, pay attention to me I've had a bad day."
19:32 <@Sayuno> "Hey, I'm here to complain about X and Y."
19:32 <@Sayuno> --------
19:32 <@Sayuno> See a pattern?
19:32 < Mootsies> (( Don't forget game discussions ))
19:32  * Akumu_Honda coughs.
19:32 < Zuren> I see a point to bring up.
19:32 <@Sayuno> Now, I'm not going to punish people for talking about what they want.
19:32 <@Sayuno> If anything I'm quite happy for people to discuss their favorite guns, or which bomb could blow up the earth...
19:32 < Koakuma> sssshhhhh. discussion will be opened after shinacchi finishes the monologue
19:33  * Masaaki_Kagura nods
19:33 <@Sayuno> But as soon as it takes priority over RP, then you have the rights to do the following:
19:33 <@Sayuno> "Hey you! I don't think now is the time to talk about that! These fine folks over here are talking about RP!"
19:34 <@Sayuno> Simple, yes?
19:34  * Akumu_Honda raises a hand.
19:34 <@Sayuno> Yes, the car?
19:35 < Akumu_Honda> What happens if there are two parralel discussions about RP?
19:35 < Momiji_Inubashiri> might need to untangle themselves by agreeing thatone moves to another channel
19:35 <@Sayuno> That's a good question :o!
19:35 < Momiji_Inubashiri> i can see that getting very tangled
19:35 <@Sayuno> I'll have to think of an answer to that...
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19:36 < Excelsior_Placidus> may I have a little say here?
19:36 < Excelsior_Placidus> Or well, just an observation.