[01:18]
Khan:
	How's the guild treating you?

[01:20]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	whad

[01:21]
Khan:
	Volition, how is Volition treating you, Dave?

[01:21]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Don't rat me out, it's been really good and everyone has been cool with me.

[01:21]
Khan:
	Dude, they already know.
	It wasn't that hard to figure out, really.

[01:22]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I figured.

[01:22]
Khan:
	John sends this.
	"I know it was you, Fredo."
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjUOBVAbGhQ

[01:22]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Are they mad

[01:22]
Khan:
	Boom sends this
	The Godfather: Part II (1974) - Fredo's Death
	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9NgnY9F9O0

	Honestly, I don't think they're too mad.
	I think they're skeptical.

[01:23]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Boom and I have been getting a long really well.
	I've been very nice to him, and he's been very nice to me.

[01:24]
Khan:
	Obviously Boom was rather skeptical, especially in regards to speaking to him under a different guise.

[01:25]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I don't want any trouble with anybody.

[01:25]
Khan:
	I doubt you're going to get any.

[01:26]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	If I can ask, what made them suspicious.

[01:26]
Khan:
	Though, they're being rather strict with one idea, Dave. If you try any of that snake shit, I will personally rain a fucking firestorm upon you.
	Do you understand?

[01:26]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Absolutely.
	I don't want to say this to flex, but more-so to make my point clear that I don't mean anything by any of this.
	Boom's told me enough stuff that I could have stirred the pot really bad after he didn't get officership, but I didn't leak it to anybody.
	and I say that in hopes that it will assure you that I genuinely don't mean to fuck anybody over.

[01:27]
Khan:
	That's already public knowledge.

[01:28]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	He just said some choice words to me, and spun poorly it would look like he's airing officer problems to a new recruit. - But I don't want to focus on the negative.
	I think he's actually a really nice guy. I've had some in depth conversations with him over discord about our characters and some other stuff.

[01:30]
Khan:
	This whole leverage thing you're trying to pull is kinda low, man.

[01:30]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Stop taking it like that, it's not meant to be.

[01:30]
Khan:
	As I stated before, I couldn't care less if you're here. But John and Boom feel betrayed.

[01:30]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I don't mean for it to come out the way you're interpreting it.

[01:30]
Khan:
	And to answer your question regarding how we found out.
	Your character page was fucking obvious.
	I've known you for 10 years dude, as has John.

[01:31]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Did they ask you to talk to me

[01:31]
Khan:
	Yes.

[01:31]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Can I talk to them
	I don't want to approach either of them unless they're comfortable talking.

[01:32]
Khan:
	Don't believe so, no.

[01:32]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Okay.

[01:32]
Khan:
	I can share my screen with them.
	But I don't think they want to interact.

[01:32]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	How are we going to proceed with all of this, because I don't think this is going to work if we can't talk to each other.
	I've been talking to BooM for a couple of days now, and nothing I told him has been deceitful except for the name.
	If he genuinely liked me under another name, then he has no reason not to go blank slate with me, because we've both seen that we can get along.

[01:35]
Khan:
	Boom would like to state this. "You've broken boundries multiple times, and I'm done."
	Quoted that in voice, I could hear the anger from it as wlel.
	well*.

[01:37]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	It's just popular not to like me at this point. I present proof that I didn't rat on you guys on ESO. They don't read it. I use another name, and we get along very well - to the point of BooM even mentioning that he actually likes talking to me.
	Like if I didn't rat on you on ESO
	What is there to have been mad about all this time
	and then me joining, not causing problems, and then being approached (by you guys)
	is only stirring the pot again
	I join under another name to AVOID stirring the pot, and don't tell anybody.
	I've done everything in my power to not be the bad guy here
	and if they would have a five minute conversation with me like adults
	we could get to the bottom of that

[01:39]
Khan:
	"You have proven to be deceitful, we are talking to you as a new member to our order. Therefore we are being nice, and welcoming. You have been inherently deceitful, and you have proven such by trying to speak to me at different times when I don't want to."
	That is what Boom said.
	He would also like to state. "I just want to be left alone."

[01:40]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	He's never, ever implied in any of our conversations that he didn't want to talk to me, or that he was having issues, until right now.
	The only time I messaged him about any of this was the one time at the very beginning.

[01:41]
Khan:
	Because he found out.
	We were all in a Discord, and then bam.

[01:41]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Yes, but if he literally told me he liked talking to me and he's mad about something I DIDN'T DO.
	Do you not see how
	this is a problem.
	A really stupid fucking problem

[01:42]
Khan:
	At this point, Dave. I am just the third party.

[01:42]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Like have you conveyed to him, told him about me talking to Dustin, and Ravnie, and all of them
	and them telling me

[01:42]
Khan:
	I have yes.

[01:42]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	'this is not the case'
	Then why the fuck are they mad
	We had a blank slate going and I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO BREAK THAT
	This is so unbelievably frustrating, and stupid.
	I've never seen, in my whole life, adults who are mad just to be mad.
	Like people grow up, and people change.
	I don't know why they can't accept that.

[01:43]
Khan:
	You have to realize what you've done to these guys, Dave.
	They don't trust you for a fucking second.

[01:43]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I fucked BooM over when I was sixteen years old dude

[01:43]
Khan:
	You know what their thoughts are right now?

[01:43]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I've never fucked John over
	I've done John so many favors in all of the years we've been friends

[01:44]
Khan:
	You join the Guild, you get close to my fucking friends. Uristil, and etc. You talk to Varen, and try and befriend Immanitas.

[01:44]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I've never done ANYTHING to him
	I didn't try to befriend Immanitas.

[01:44]
Khan:
	This looks like you're trying to snake.

[01:44]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I RPd with her one time

[01:44]
Khan:
	I was told otherwise.
	You realize, people talk to me, Dave.

[01:44]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	What did I do to try and get close to Immanitas.

[01:44]
Khan:
	I know of the shit happening within this guild.

[01:45]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I asked her questions about the guild before I applied, and I talked to her for 3 emotes at the party.
	Whoever told you I'm trying to befriend her is giving you a crock of shit.
	My character INSULTED her at the party.

[01:45]
Khan:
	How so though?
	It's your friend.
	I will quote them.
	"She's super cool but she's also very tight with Varen and wants to hang with Imma."
	This is from Boom.

[01:46]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Can I get a screenshot of that because I did not say that.

[01:46]
Khan:
	"It was a GROUP decision not to associate with you in SWTOR. Yet you refuse to leave us alone and give us peace of mind. So not only do you ignore that desire to be left alone by you, and then join the guild that we didn't want you to join. You went to such great lengths to not only deceive us, but to deceive those around you by creating a new identity and the like. You've only ever proven us correctly with this."
	I'm not blasting my informant, no.

[01:46]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	So cut their name out?
	or black it out in paint

[01:47]
Khan:
	It's not worth it.
	Just trust my fucking word man.
	I don't want to create even more shit.
	I told you not to message Ravnie.
	And you did.

[01:47]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	No, you said you didn't want to tell me who it was.

[01:47]
Khan:
	You've literally done the opposite of what I've told you to do.
	On multiple occasions.
	This seems like you're innately trying to fuck me, Dave.

[01:48]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	You didn't tell me who it was.

[01:48]
Khan:
	Yes, what does that fucking mean, Dave?

[01:48]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	How can you tell me not to message Ravnie if you told me 'I don't want to give up my informant'.

[01:48]
Khan:
	I don't tell you their name for their protection.
	And you think, in a rational mind.

[01:48]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I messaged every officer from that guild to ask about it. Not just Ravnie.

[01:48]
Khan:
	"Khan didn't tell me their name. Imma go fucking be a detective and figure it out."

[01:49]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Yes, because I don't like that people dislike me for the wrong reasons.

[01:49]
Khan:
	You can see now, Dave.

[01:49]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	That they think I fucked them, when I didn't.

[01:49]
Khan:
	/WE/ don't trust a word that comes out of your mouth.
	John, Boom, Myself now.

[01:49]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I haven't done anything to you for fuck sake.

[01:49]
Khan:
	I don't trust you Dave, I don't trust anyone.
	You inherently were trying to deceive us.
	And then when I interact with it.
	You tried to play it off.

[01:50]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I said whad and fatfingered my keyboard.
	D is to the right of S and enter is to the right of '
	It was going to say what's going on

[01:51]
Khan:
	Okay, buddy.

[01:51]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Why wouldI LIE about that
	of all things
	like hello

[01:51]
Khan:
	The same thing you would lie about your identity to people who you considered your friends.
	I learn from the best, Dave.

[01:51]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	That's absolutely not the same thing.
	If you already know, why would I keep going with it.
	What sense does that make.

[01:52]
Khan:
	A lie is a lie, Dave.

[01:52]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I literally TOLD you I was doing this.
	You TOLD me to do this.

[01:52]
Khan:
	Deceit is even worse to "friends"
	I said.

[01:52]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	You TOLD me to join under another name.
	Are you that cross.

[01:52]
Khan:
	This.
	I literally said this, Dave.

[01:52]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	You said join under another name if you really want to join.

[01:52]
Khan:
	Before the whole scenario with Boom.
	When you messaged him.
	"Join, they wouldn't care as much. They wouldn't interact with you."
	Then you messaged Boom, worried about it.
	Pissed him off even further.

[01:53]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	You told me talk to him when he's not at work. I didn't know you meant like a week later.
	You say that you know me, then you should know that I'm like Tony, and we're both very literal

[01:53]
Khan:
	I said this.
	"Talk to him when he wants to talk."
	As in.
	Let him add you when you added him.
	And then I said.

[01:54]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I took when he wants to talk as

[01:54]
Khan:
	"He might be willing to talk in the next day."

[01:54]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	OK I will drop him a message and he can get back to me when he's rady.

[01:54]
Khan:
	Don't try and skew my words.

[01:54]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I'm not
	I'm telling you how I interpreted it
	I'm not a smart fucking person, okay.
	I'm telling you how I interpreted what you said.
	You told me 'I won't tell you who talked to us'. You never asked me not to dig.
	I TOLD you I was going to.
	And you did not say anthing that suggested I shouldn't.
	I literally told you I was going to talk to Dustin and the other guild officers.
	The day of.
	I have kept you in the know about everything, through all of this.
	but you say that I'm deceiving you.
	Stop echo chambering Boom and John.
	Instead of looking at any of the positive outcomes of this, they focus on the singular negative.

[01:56]
Khan:
	I am the middle man at this point, Dave.

[01:57]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Like, can you just ask them, and then give me their response verbatim when I ask you "What is there to be mad about, if I've proven that the thing they're mad at me for in the first place, DID NOT HAPPEN."
	I wouldn't have had to change my name in the first goddamn place if BooM just read the goddamn message I sent him.
	"Oh, I'm mad at Dave for X."

[01:58]
Khan:
	Boom is upset about this. "That you are still willing to deceive us so willingly."
	Still.
	That's what he's mad.

[01:58]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	But that's not what this is about.
	Because he was mad before that.
	and he wouldn't be mad about that
	because I wouldn't have had to change my name.

[01:59]
Khan:
	"Willing to break boundaries."

[01:59]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	If he weren't mad
	about a NON EXISTENT ISSUE
	Why is he willing to hold a conversation to me through you, but not in text or over voice.
	It's the same thing but with extra steps
	It would be so much more stress off his back if he can just talk to me once, and then I'll leave him alone after I get some closure.

[01:59]
Khan:
	"We don't want to deal with your drama that carry around with you every step. That is why we took a group decision to not associate with you. Yet you go behind that group decision, and try and deceive the group."

[02:00]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Can I just talk to him and have you mediate it.
	And then I'll leave him alone
	I promise that I will just drop the whole thing if he talks to me for like five minutes.

[02:00]
Khan:
	He's done associating himself with you.

[02:00]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Okay, yes. I get that.
	But I'm not done trying to talk to him.
	And I will leave him alone if he talks to me for a few minutes.
	and we can all get on with it

[02:01]
Khan:
	You were supposed to leave him alone, last week.

[02:01]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	and I did.

[02:01]
Khan:
	If you message Boom, he will block you quite literally everywhere.

[02:01]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	I'm not going to message him.
	Just tell him that I want to talk to him one time, in discord, and then I will never talk to him again after that conversation if he doesn't want me to.
	It's literally five minutes out of his life.

[02:02]
Khan:
	Boom says.
	"Not gonna talk to him at all. He's not going to talk to me."
	I consider that fin.

[02:02]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	That's very silly, but whatever.
	Imagine him liking everything about me, when we chat under another name
	When he tells me "I really like everything you've said up until this point" when I talk to him about my interests, and the types of characters I like to play.

[02:03]
Khan:
	Imagine him liking a new recruit.

[02:03]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Yes, which only furthers my point that he's mad just to be mad.

[02:04]
Khan:
	"Imagine not lying to someone."

[02:04]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	If he likes the genuine qualities associated with me, my interests and so on.
	I tried not lying to him.
	And he was being a child.
	He couldn't even read 2 paragraphs that prove he's mad for the wrong reasons.
	Literal screenshots.
	And the most ironic part is.
	None of this would have happened if he didn't try to snake me to Ravnie
	and go
	'hey u should watch out for htat guy'
	While we're supposed to be on a blank slate.
	But then me trying to reach out to him and say
	"Hey I think you've made a mistake, it's been over a year and I'm still upholding my end of our deal"
	oh no no
	Dave's the bad guy.

[02:06]
Khan:
	"Imagine the next step that you take when a person says for you not to talk to them, that you lie to them in order to get into their good graces. It's cringy, clingy, and it's desperate."

[02:06]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	He's right, it is desperate. I like you people, and you people like the non-dramatic parts about me.

[02:06]
Khan:
	That's his last comment.

[02:06]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	So why don't we just stop being dramatic.

[02:07]
Khan:
	It was dramatic to join within deceit.
	But, honestly man.

[02:07]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Yes, I know.
	I'm not denying that what I did was not cool. It was a last resort.
	I wanted to prove to them that we could interact and be friends if we weren't fighting about stupid shit.
	And it worked.
	But they're not looking at it in that light.
	They're looking at it in a way that paints me as evil, because it fits their narrative better.
	Instead of admitting they were wrong.
	They have to take what I'm doing and twist it against me.
	Like I just don't know how you can spite someone, and then they give you photographic proof that what you're mad at them about is not real.
	Why would someone keep lying to themself, and their friends
	Like this is obviously stressing him out, and it wouldn't be if he faced the facts.
	He's mad at me for a reason that doesn't exist, and if he acknowledged that he can just
	stop being mad
	I don't understand why that can't happen.
	Like I want to tell him, to his face that I'm sorry. I wish he could hear me say, with sincerity, that I'm sorry about what happened in the past.
	All of our fighting happened when I was a megalomanic teenager.
	And now I"m an adult.
	I fucked him on Aeria and on DarkSystem and shit when I was a punk kid, man.
	And now we're all grown up and we're still fighting like kids.
	We can't even talk like adults, at this point
	and it bothers me.
	If it doesn't get set straight, it's going to bleed into roleplay somewhere along the lines. It won't with me, because I'm not the spiteful one here.

[02:11]
Khan:
	I am going to be rather blunt here, man.
	I am apathetic af regarding this situation.
	But this is starting to fucking annoy me.

[02:11]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Then he should talk to me so I can stop bothering you.
	You shouldn't have any hand in this, because my problem isn't with you.
	The problem isn't coming from you.

[02:12]
Khan:
	He doesn't want to, that's the whole point.
	Accept that decision.

[02:12]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	And I didn't want to have to sneak into the guild so I could have a good time.

[02:12]
Khan:
	Choose another guild.

[02:13]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	There are people I genuinely like to play with in this one.
	Who are not you guys.
	Not to say that I don't like to RP with you guys.

[02:13]
Khan:
	You've been in the guild 3 days.

[02:13]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Yes, and I've started making friends in those three days.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Can you ask them, at least, to not talk about this with the rest of the guild. I don't want it to affect them.
	It's not fair to anyone not involved in any of this.

[02:14]
Khan:
	I think that ship has sailed.

[02:14]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	But -I'm- the one who causes drama.

[02:15]
Khan:
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Listen. I'm going to stop bothering you with this, because I don't want you to cut ties, too.
	Thank you.

[02:15]
Hey, Good Lookin'!:
	Sorry.