Macrologia - Today at 2:19 AM
Hello
I was wondering - I moderate a couple of other class discords - what was your reasoning behind banning all usages of the 'pepe the frog' meme as a 'white supremacist symbol'?
Binkenstein - Today at 2:19 AM
Because it is
Which servers are you a moderator of?
Macrologia - Today at 2:20 AM
Dreamgrove and Skyhold
What makes it a white supremacist symbol?
Binkenstein - Today at 2:20 AM
It was co-opted by the alt right, to the point where the creator killed the character off
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-the-frog
Macrologia - Today at 2:21 AM
A great deal of this page not related to the alt-right.
Binkenstein - Today at 2:22 AM
Did you read the section starting with "Impact"?
Macrologia - Today at 2:23 AM
Yes, I read this earlier
A lot of things are associated with the alt-right. Should everything they have been associated with be banned?
Binkenstein - Today at 2:24 AM
Okay, so I assume the point of this is to basicaly ask me to stop banning it?
Macrologia - Today at 2:24 AM
No, I don't care what you do in your discords, I'm not in them (except for to speak with you about it)
I'm just curious
(I don't play shaman)
Binkenstein - Today at 2:25 AM
It started when I asked one of the MVP's to remove his avatar as it looked Pepe-ish
Mostly because if I had to ask someone to change theirs in the future I didn't want to have a "But Maeve has his!" response
He said he would
Then linked a screenshot to various servers
So that got his access removed
Macrologia - Today at 2:26 AM
Why would anyone have to change their pepe the frog avatar in the first place though
I mean, that is itself the issue
Binkenstein - Today at 2:26 AM
Yes
Macrologia - Today at 2:26 AM
Like, for example
I don't think people should be allowed to have e.g. a swastika as their avatar
Binkenstein - Today at 2:26 AM
Indeed
Macrologia - Today at 2:26 AM
A swastika is a direct symbol of nazism and is inherently offensive and wrong
That doesn't mean that any depiction of a swastika is necessarily unacceptable - for example, it's perfectly okay to show one for educational purposes, such as in a textbook about world war 2, or something
Binkenstein - Today at 2:27 AM
Pepe the Frog is basically the new swastika, as that was co-opted from a few South East Asian religions
Macrologia - Today at 2:27 AM
I don't think that's even remotely accurate
Binkenstein - Today at 2:27 AM
Okay, we'll agree to disagree
Macrologia - Today at 2:27 AM
A swastika is literally the symbol for the nazi party. They had armbands for it
Like
Binkenstein - Today at 2:28 AM
but all of the problems and moderator actions are because of shitty behaviour, not because of the image itself
Macrologia - Today at 2:28 AM
I'm not interested in that
Binkenstein - Today at 2:29 AM
Including the comparisons made between me and Nazi's, the sockpuppet accounts joining earthshrine to insult me
Macrologia - Today at 2:29 AM
I didn't hear about that
Binkenstein - Today at 2:29 AM
Apparently they now want to get the Earthshrine partnership with Discord removed
Because I'm "mean" or something
Macrologia - Today at 2:30 AM
I just wanted to talk to you to hear your opinions about why pepe the frog is a white nationalist symbol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The fact that white nationalists have used it in shitty jokes or whatever doesn't make it a white nationalist symbol
Binkenstein - Today at 2:31 AM
I'm sorry, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this.
Macrologia - Today at 2:31 AM
Do you think that the fact that white nationalists have used it in shitty jokes, makes it a white nationalist symbol?
As an obvious absurdist example, white nationalists often made memes about Obama. Why isn't Obama a white nationalist symbol?
Binkenstein - Today at 2:33 AM
Because that's a stupid comparison
Macrologia - Today at 2:33 AM
I know
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