[17:45:42] <@Urist> shik, bamboo drop only but 2 slots
[17:47:20] <@Meow> hmm
[17:47:49] <@Meow> same for pike tbo. 3 slots for the only melee anti cav weapon is kinda hardcore if it will be your primary weapon
[17:47:53] <@Meow> if pike gets 3
[17:49:24] <@Meow> tbh even
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[17:53:39] <@cmpxchg8b> well, no-sheath is hardcore too
[17:53:50] <@Meow> i agree
[17:53:51] <@cmpxchg8b> this will be a pretty huge buff to cav
[17:54:02] <@cmpxchg8b> -> nerf cav
[17:54:03] <@Meow> that's why i think no-sheath should be 1 slot
[17:54:16] <@Meow> then again...
[17:54:22] <@Meow> that would fail with the flamberge and stuff
[17:54:28] <@Meow> also do you pay upkeep for the no sheath stuff?
[17:54:37] <@cmpxchg8b> of course
[17:54:44] <@Meow> k
[17:54:56] <@Meow> even if you drop it?
[17:55:09] <@cmpxchg8b> like it is now
[17:55:13] <@cmpxchg8b> you pay for items you spawn with
[17:55:16] <@Meow> k
[17:55:29] <@Meow> also autorepair forced on right?
[17:55:37] <@Meow> unrelated
[17:55:42] <@Meow> that is
[17:55:49] <@cmpxchg8b> dunno
[17:55:52] <@cmpxchg8b> chadz' stuff
[17:55:57] <@Meow> k
[17:56:06] <@cmpxchg8b> that bug should be already fixed though
[17:56:14] <@Meow> k
[17:56:16] <@cmpxchg8b> i think ch ad z wrote it in the forum
[17:56:37] <Templar_Casimir> Hey what about the long maul
[17:56:41] <Templar_Casimir> guessign that will be drop only?
[17:56:47] <@cmpxchg8b> i think so
[17:56:54] <@cmpxchg8b> either drop only or 3 slots
[17:57:06] <Templar_Casimir> so my 2 heirloomed weapons will be unusable together :L
[17:57:08] <Templar_Casimir> Goddamn
[17:57:29] <@cmpxchg8b> dunno if a heirloom reset is planned
[17:57:42] <Templar_Casimir> im against heirloom reset
[17:57:50] <Templar_Casimir> people who loom side swords / bar maces should be stuck with them
[17:57:53] <@cmpxchg8b> me too
[17:57:57] <@Meow> same here
[18:02:16] <Mylet> agreed
[18:03:25] <@Meow> not even for the part that people loomed op weapons but just for the fact that everyone will be using the same weapon after a day if they can just insta tripple loom it
[18:03:37] <Kophka> so, for example, how would this affect my load out : Battlefork, Shield, Javs x2
[18:03:49] <@Meow> 1x jav instead i'd say
[18:03:54] <Kophka> okay
[18:03:56] <@Meow> not knowing the slots
[18:04:00] <@Meow> just saying
[18:04:10] <Kophka> and my light xbow, longsword, boardshield, bolts guys?
[18:04:18] <@Meow> should be fine
[18:04:21] <@Meow> not sure any shield gets 2
[18:04:28] <@Meow> maybe hurscarl and board?
[18:04:32] <Kophka> hmm
[18:04:37] <@Meow> no idea tho
[18:04:38] <Kophka> so the xbow guy loses nothing
[18:04:39] <@Meow> but those are huge
[18:04:42] <Kophka> not cool
[18:04:54] <@Meow> light xbow
[18:05:05] <Braeden> Sniper / Heavy xbow two slots?
[18:05:13] <@Meow> not sure but i think
[18:05:51] <Braeden> Will my horse now require two horse slots?
[18:05:54] <Braeden> Its a big horse.
[18:06:03] <@Meow> 3
[18:06:15] <Kophka> how about my sidesword, heavy kite shield, heavy throwing axe, throwing spear guy?
[18:06:24] <@cmpxchg8b> sniper/heavy = 2 slots
[18:06:27] <@cmpxchg8b> board/huscarl = 2 slots
[18:06:32] <Braeden> He gets delete, Kophka, for sidesword carrying.
[18:06:36] <Braeden> *deleted
[18:06:41] <Kophka> sad, but well deserved
[18:06:44] <Shogunate_Arked> and bolts are 1 slot?
[18:06:48] <@cmpxchg8b> ofc
[18:06:53] <Kophka> if i had a character like that, I'd honestly expect it
[18:06:57] <Shogunate_Arked> 2h becoming 2 slots too?
[18:07:03] <@cmpxchg8b> yeah
[18:07:05] <@cmpxchg8b> maybe some of them 3
[18:07:06] <Shogunate_Arked> lol
[18:07:09] <Braeden> All or just the big ones?
[18:07:13] <@cmpxchg8b> all 2
[18:07:13] <Shogunate_Arked> so i cant use nodachi and xbow?
[18:07:18] <Kophka> oh, so the longsword = 2 slots?
[18:07:19] <@cmpxchg8b> maul/mallet/great maul 3
[18:07:22] <Kophka> awesome
[18:07:23] <Braeden> Even the tiny ones?
[18:07:26] <@Meow> not the big xbows
[18:07:30] <@cmpxchg8b> you can use nodachi and crossbow/light crossbow
[18:07:43] <Shogunate_Arked> dam
[18:07:46] <@Meow> flamberge 3 and no drop?
[18:07:48] <Shogunate_Arked> i loomed my sniper
[18:07:49] <@cmpxchg8b> just not heavy/siege
[18:07:50] <@Meow> err no sheath?
[18:08:22] <Kophka> i may sound like i'm bitching guys, but I honestly cannot wait to see the changes
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[18:08:29] <@cmpxchg8b> flamberge 2/3 and no-sheath i guess
[18:08:31] <Kophka> i'm just excited
[18:08:39] <@Meow> nice
[18:08:40] <@cmpxchg8b> well Kophka, i stil lhave to code them
[18:08:44] <Braeden> Spiked Mace 2 slots?
[18:08:45] <Kophka> poo
[18:08:53] <@cmpxchg8b> Braeden is it 2h?
[18:08:59] <Braeden> Yeah
[18:09:00] <Serfonz> Every single 2h going to be 2 / 3 slots?
[18:09:05] <@cmpxchg8b> yes
[18:09:06] <Braeden> But smaller than most 1h
[18:09:24] <Belmont> What about the 1/2 handed weapons?
[18:09:26] <@Meow> it's about balancing not really about looks
[18:09:29] <Belmont> Bastard, Longsword, Katana
[18:09:34] <@cmpxchg8b> right
[18:09:35] <@cmpxchg8b> length 70
[18:09:42] <@cmpxchg8b> that one may be put to 1
[18:09:46] <@cmpxchg8b> *might
[18:09:52] <@cmpxchg8b> Belmont, 2 probably
[18:10:11] <Braeden> Nice
[18:10:15] <Belmont> *looks for someone to trade a masterwork sniper*
[18:10:20] <Shogunate_Arked> same
[18:10:22] <Shogunate_Arked>
[18:10:25] <Kophka> should 100+, or 110+ be 2 slots maybe?
[18:10:33] <Braeden> You want to get rid of it, Belmont, or you want one?
[18:10:37] <Belmont> Rid of it
[18:10:37] <@cmpxchg8b> well, it's not length based only
[18:10:40] <Shogunate_Arked> we want to get rid
[18:10:42] <@Meow> no doing that by lenth is bs
[18:10:45] <@cmpxchg8b> 1hs won't be 2 slot
[18:10:45] <Braeden> I'll take it!
[18:10:45] <@Meow> lenght that is
[18:10:49] <Shogunate_Arked> maybe u want 2 braeden?
[18:10:53] <Shogunate_Arked>
[18:11:03] <Braeden> I'll give you 10k gold
[18:11:09] <Braeden> Thats totally fair.
[18:11:11] * Braeden eyeshifts
[18:11:25] <@cmpxchg8b> i doubt they want gold
[18:11:32] <Braeden> Oh wait! Fix strat at the same time as trading comes out.
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[18:11:37] <Braeden> So I can trade land for things.
[18:12:05] <Mylet> I evade a pike thrust and he still gets me by turning while it's extended -.-
[18:12:08] <@Meow> not sure there will be a secure trading system for land <--> items
[18:12:08] <Belmont> Oh yeah cmpx, will the trading system be in this patch or will that have to wait until the Strategus patch?
[18:12:30] <Braeden> Secure - schemure
[18:12:30] <@cmpxchg8b> i don't know much about the trading system tbh
[18:12:38] <@cmpxchg8b> i guess it's cha dz' stuff
[18:12:58] <Belmont> I see, thanks for the answer
[18:13:01] <@cmpxchg8b> haven't heard anything about it, so i doubt it's planned for this one
[18:13:02] <Nemeth> so basicly hybrids are now stuck with range/one hand
[18:13:03] <Nemeth> ?
[18:13:07] <@cmpxchg8b> yes
[18:13:10] <Nemeth> cool
[18:13:12] <Nemeth> im fine with that
[18:13:13] <@cmpxchg8b> ranged+sidearm
[18:13:20] <Nemeth> even though I suck with 1h
[18:13:28] <Braeden> Or lesser ranged as the sidearm
[18:13:33] <@cmpxchg8b> yep
[18:13:39] <Braeden> Basically hybrids have to prioritize
[18:13:45] <Nemeth> very good
[18:13:47] <Braeden> Unless they are throwers, in which case they have to loot.
[18:13:48] <+_Punisher> these slots changes are for the upcoming patch or for later?
[18:13:54] <@cmpxchg8b> upcoming hopefully
[18:13:58] <+_Punisher> would be awesome
[18:14:07] <@cmpxchg8b> i'll start coding tomorrow
[18:14:13] <@cmpxchg8b> so best case = done by tomorrow
[18:14:16] <+_Punisher> trading system coming now too ?
[18:14:17] <Nemeth> ^^
[18:14:29] <Braeden> He just answered that one, Punisher
[18:14:32] <Nemeth> afaik trading comes with strategus?
[18:14:34] <+_Punisher> sry, i was in-game
[18:14:36] <@cmpxchg8b> was the trading system announced by cha dz?
[18:14:46] <+_Punisher> he announced it a while ago
[18:14:49] <+_Punisher> like a month back
[18:14:52] <@cmpxchg8b> ah ok
[18:14:54] <@Meow> it was in the strategus sneak peak
[18:14:54] <@cmpxchg8b> missed that one
[18:15:03] <@Meow> i would say strategus not crpg patch
[18:15:07] <Shogunate_Arked> cmp, will throwng weapons still take 1 slot per stack? its weird that someone can carry 12 axes on him (if someone asked about that already, sorry)
[18:15:21] <Braeden> I can totally carry 12 axes IRL
[18:15:23] <@cmpxchg8b> most will
[18:15:25] <@Meow> can we stop using semi realism for balancing?
[18:15:48] <@cmpxchg8b> lances will be no-sheath i think
[18:15:50] <Kophka> javelins, 1 slot or 2?
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[18:15:54] <@cmpxchg8b> so effectively limited to 2
[18:15:54] <@Meow> nice
[18:16:02] <@cmpxchg8b> or 3 if we up ammo
[18:16:04] <@Meow> makes sense
[18:16:13] <+_Punisher> jarids should be 2 slots maybe
[18:16:21] <@cmpxchg8b> javelins and jarids, not sure yet whether 1 or 2
[18:16:44] <Kophka> javelins are pretty small in the hand

[18:34:44] <Nemeth> Sorry if was asked, but how is it with slotting with throwing weapons? Lances are drop only, do any other get more slots as well as 2h etc?
[18:34:54] <@cmpxchg8b> Nemeth, maybe spears and jarids get 2

[03:22:14] <karasu> how many slots on bows btw?
[03:22:27] <@cmpxchg8b> 2 on war/long, rest 1
[03:22:44] <@cmpxchg8b> not 100% sure yet though