Even now...

Immo23Today at 14:38
Have sent you my final terms through Morosz. Hopefully, we can come to a fair and amicable agreement :slight_smile:

DartesToday at 15:03
And you find that fair? Good joke.

Immo23Today at 15:03
How is it not fair?
Because you have to realise the positions here. It's not the old days of unofficial Velvet and official IRG. You don't have the iRP or ooRP power you want to project yourself as having. That's not me being a dick, that's me being honest.

DartesToday at 15:05
Uhh giving you all rights to do everything you want to GRG? That's something I find rather unacceptable
If you wanted fairness,
Velvet would have done their thing and GRG theirs
Without any complications

Immo23Today at 15:06
1. Ames Research Station, by accords with OSI, will remain GRG, and due to the circumstances created, all Military Velvet Vessels have denied access to the installation.
2. GRG will not interefere with any Velvet operations, and aswell Velver will not interefere with GRG operations.
3. The "exile" is lifed from GRG from Omicrons
4. Velvet will retain administration of Corinth, but GRG emplyees will not be under the Administrator's command and both organisation shall do their researchers, without interfering with the others.
If code of conduct is broken, the GRG will take measures, as Velvet shall provide proof of such.
5. Velvet will continue its operations unhindered, as the Lower Omicrons are it's primary sectors of operation.
6. GRG will respect and uphold the the NCLE regarding the mining of Azurite gas and Iridium ore and as such, if agreed by one or more parties of the NCLE, GRG shall cooperate with said party/parties in the mining operation
8. GRG will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.
9. Velvet will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.

Tell me, how you are not over projecting yourself here?

DartesToday at 15:06
But your arrogance is too big for that.

Immo23Today at 15:07
"We want co-ownership of Corinth"
Sod off. You don't have any rights to that. ANd you never will.

DartesToday at 15:07
I'm seeing only restrictions after restrictions of a party that thinks they own Omicrons
Oh the first set was not even my idea.
Again, from the beginning I simply wanted to do our thing
Without being stressed by somebody
And yet you simply didn't want to back off

Immo23Today at 15:09
1. The administration of Ames Research Station remains in the hands of the GRG, which has since been handed over to Omicron Supply Industries.
2. GRG will stop the current project with the Legacy order cell.
3. The previous agreement immediately is reformed to allow GRG to operate in the Southern Omicrons, but not interfere with Velvet's operations or be asked to leave immediately.
4. Velvet will retain administration of Corinth, but will work a deal to allow GRG to work their on a monthly contract that will be fair for both Velvet and GRG. GRG can rent up to 3 lab spaces at $15,000,000SC (fifteen million) per month, per lab space. This will only permit access to the labs. GRG acknowledges that Velvet are the owners and administrators of the station.
5. Velvet will continue its operations unhindered, as the Lower Omicrons are it's primary sectors of operation.
6. GRG will respect and uphold the the NCLE regarding the mining of Azurite gas and Iridium ore and as such, will not engage in it's own mining operations until it's agreed within the NCLE.
7. Velvet will not prevent GRG in legally acquiring the above mentioned materials through its allies.
8. GRG will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.
9. Velvet will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.

This is more than fair.

DartesToday at 15:10
You can forget I pay for rent.
What about GRG's OPs? Do you want me to tell you when I poop aswell?

Immo23Today at 15:11
When did I ask to know about what you do?
If you're on our station, it's our rules.
When we were on an IRG station, it was their rules.
If we go on an OSI base. It's their rules.
If you don't want to pay for rent, then you can forget any access to Corinth. It's simple as that.

DartesToday at 15:12
Thats why from what I can say, we will avoid as much as possible your bases
The occasionaly oorp need will occur, but nothing more.

Immo23Today at 15:12
We're charging other factions to use research space. You're no exception to the rule.
Give me one good reason, given your iRP and ooRP activities, why you should be?
And saying "Because am Zoner" is a bullshit excuse.

DartesToday at 15:13
Did I ask for that?
I dont think so

Immo23Today at 15:13
DartesToday at 15:10
You can forget I pay for rent.

Actually, you did.

DartesToday at 15:13
Again, first set of demands was not from me.
I was going along it

Immo23Today at 15:13
I posted you the second set.
1. Ames Research Station, by accords with OSI, will remain GRG, and due to the circumstances created, all Military Velvet Vessels have denied access to the installation.
2. GRG will not interefere with any Velvet operations, and aswell Velver will not interefere with GRG operations.
3. The "exile" is lifed from GRG from Omicrons
4. Velvet will retain administration of Corinth, but GRG emplyees will not be under the Administrator's command and both organisation shall do their researchers, without interfering with the others.
If code of conduct is broken, the GRG will take measures, as Velvet shall provide proof of such.
5. Velvet will continue its operations unhindered, as the Lower Omicrons are it's primary sectors of operation.
6. GRG will respect and uphold the the NCLE regarding the mining of Azurite gas and Iridium ore and as such, if agreed by one or more parties of the NCLE, GRG shall cooperate with said party/parties in the mining operation
8. GRG will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.
9. Velvet will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.

These are the second ones.

DartesToday at 15:13
You can expect another one, don't worry.

Immo23Today at 15:13
I'm not budging.
I've hit my limit on what I'm willing to give you.

DartesToday at 15:14
Those are my set of rules.
And it seemed more than fair for both of us

Immo23Today at 15:14
Yes, those are the ones yous end me.
No.
If you're on Velvet's station, we have every right to know what's going on.
As does OSI on their station.

DartesToday at 15:14
But if we're not?

Immo23Today at 15:15
If you're not on my stations and you're not in our primary operating grounds, why would I care?
You're nothing to do with us.

DartesToday at 15:16
Whats wrong with the last set of rules sent from u exactly?
1. Ames Research Station, by accords with OSI, will remain GRG, and due to the circumstances created, all Military Velvet Vessels have denied access to the installation.
2. GRG will not interefere with any Velvet operations, and aswell Velver will not interefere with GRG operations.
3. The "exile" is lifed from GRG from Omicrons
4. Velvet will retain administration of Corinth, but GRG emplyees will not be under the Administrator's command and both organisation shall do their researchers, without interfering with the others.
If code of conduct is broken, the GRG will take measures, as Velvet shall provide proof of such.
5. Velvet will continue its operations unhindered, as the Lower Omicrons are it's primary sectors of operation.
6. GRG will respect and uphold the the NCLE regarding the mining of Azurite gas and Iridium ore and as such, if agreed by one or more parties of the NCLE, GRG shall cooperate with said party/parties in the mining operation
8. GRG will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.
9. Velvet will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.

These are the second ones.
Those ^

Immo23Today at 15:16
4. Velvet will retain administration of Corinth, but GRG emplyees will not be under the Administrator's command and both organisation shall do their researchers, without interfering with the others.

You're going out of oyur way to not accept the administration and the owners.
It's a big no for Velvet.
Respect is a two way street.
You're on our base, we expect co-operation.

DartesToday at 15:16
Good, we can tweak that.

Immo23Today at 15:17
6. GRG will respect and uphold the the NCLE regarding the mining of Azurite gas and Iridium ore and as such, if agreed by one or more parties of the NCLE, GRG shall cooperate with said party/parties in the mining operation

You are not having a mining operation until GRG are part of the NCLE.
This has been confirmed through Core.
3. The "exile" is lifed from GRG from Omicrons

And I see no reason to lift it.
1. Ames Research Station, by accords with OSI, will remain GRG, and due to the circumstances created, all Military Velvet Vessels have denied access to the installation.

You cannot deny us access.

DartesToday at 15:17
I can
As admin
And remember how I set your forces out?

Immo23Today at 15:18
2. GRG will not interefere with any Velvet operations, and aswell Velver will not interefere with GRG operations.

You can't stop us from operating in our areas. You don't hold that power. You're not IRG.
Actually, we went out under the terms that you are exiled.

DartesToday at 15:18
I can stop you from going into my business.
That's a fact, proven already

Immo23Today at 15:18
You can't stop us from landing on a station.

DartesToday at 15:18
If you have something more constructive to say

Immo23Today at 15:18
If we're in the area, we dock. Simple as that.

DartesToday at 15:18
Please say now

Immo23Today at 15:18
I've literally picked apart most of your suggestions.
Telling you what's bad about them.
1. The administration of Ames Research Station remains in the hands of the GRG, which has since been handed over to Omicron Supply Industries.
2. GRG will stop the current project with the Legacy order cell.
3. The previous agreement immediately is reformed to allow GRG to operate in the Southern Omicrons, but not interfere with Velvet's operations or be asked to leave immediately.
4. Velvet will retain administration of Corinth, but will work a deal to allow GRG to work their on a monthly contract that will be fair for both Velvet and GRG. GRG can rent up to 3 lab spaces at $15,000,000SC (fifteen million) per month, per lab space. This will only permit access to the labs. GRG acknowledges that Velvet are the owners and administrators of the station.
5. Velvet will continue its operations unhindered, as the Lower Omicrons are it's primary sectors of operation.
6. GRG will respect and uphold the the NCLE regarding the mining of Azurite gas and Iridium ore and as such, will not engage in it's own mining operations until it's agreed within the NCLE.
7. Velvet will not prevent GRG in legally acquiring the above mentioned materials through its allies.
8. GRG will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.
9. Velvet will uphold and respect the points of this agreement.

These are my final terms.

DartesToday at 15:19
And yet you don't get me
Which are definitely unacceptable

Immo23Today at 15:19
Okay. Why?
Point 2, yeah, I can say fair. But, that's a term of agreeement, argue your case for it.
Also, the rent is heavily reduced from what you would have originally had on Corinth, should you have wanted to stay.

DartesToday at 15:21
2. To stop the project
That's something that would put GRG in a bad light, as we are already on thin line with legacy inrp and we want to gain their trust.
We simply do not want Velvet in this matter as we can handle it by ourselves

Immo23Today at 15:21
I'm telling you to stop for our own diplomacy.
Yes, I am being selfish here, absolutely.
BUT! I can't iRP risk Order of any part using it against Core.
I've already made Core aware anyway, seeing as it has the potential to be used against us.
Not just Velvet, but GRG as well.

DartesToday at 15:22
4.If we gotta pay rent, we can agree that GRG won't have any Laboratories on Corinth, but use it as refueling point
I think I'm more than capable to do the Aquilon project without being idiot enough to let people Order had it

Immo23Today at 15:23
For refuelling, we'll do you at cost of a single lab, and treat it as though it is a lab.
Dartes... I'm worried about the potential. Not what people are and aren't saying to our faces, but more what they have the ability to do behind our abcks.
backs*
Yes, this is paranoia... But I've been shafted so many times both iRP and ooRP... it actually scares the fuck out of me.

DartesToday at 15:24
It's GRGs responsibility
Not Velvet

Immo23Today at 15:24
If it means anything, mining Iridium and Azurite, I'm happy to basically iRP do for you guys basically for free.

DartesToday at 15:25
When you stop acting like I'm brining the apocalypse down to you, we can do business.

Immo23Today at 15:25
It doesn't stop the paranoia...
I'm sure you understand, as stupid as it is?

DartesToday at 15:27
Do you realise where it brought u?
It brought u on the brig of have a capital asset destroyed in an attempt of forcefully taking over a base because u wanted to do so
New more enemies.

Immo23Today at 15:28
How did it?
All you've done is use this as ooRP hate fuel.

DartesToday at 15:28
Nope.
I've used inrp strategy.

Immo23Today at 15:28
To fuel ooRP hate.

DartesToday at 15:28
No
To keep GRG alive
And not destroyed.

Immo23Today at 15:29
well fuck me.
Then why the HELL should I ever help you?

DartesToday at 15:29
You wanted us destroyed

Immo23Today at 15:29
You're going out your way to destroy 9 months of building a faction from thin air, for your own ego.

DartesToday at 15:29
Because of your paranoia

Immo23Today at 15:29
When did I want to destroy you!?

DartesToday at 15:29
When u tried to take over Ames

Immo23Today at 15:29
How did I?
I was there, yes. But there was a PoB that we didn't have access to. All I wanted was access to the PoB, as was our right as station owners at the time.
I commented on your lack of administration skills for not letting us know. Which was fair comment.
"Ahh, fuck! My bad. Should have let you know about that."
Instead you come back iRP with a shitty response. Why would Velvet want to trust you?
Either way. Ames is nothing to do with me, you're there. We're in the Omicrons. My advice as a friend is that GRG and Velvet don't cross paths.
You guys stick to house spaces and your secondary ZoIs. We stick to Omicrons and our secondary ZoIs.
If anything, I'm literally saying, we stick to our little area, you go anywhere else.