[14:22]	Holden_	Or to give a much more relevant example
[14:23]	Holden_	one of the very best combat tactics in Exalted is to have someone clinch the big-bad, then everyone else beats his face in while your wrestler holds Mask of Winters's arms behind his back
[14:23]	Holden_	People absolutely hate this tactic
[14:23]	Holden_	I mean, react to it with visceral revulsion
[14:23]	Holden_	Because it is not the story they want to tell.
[14:23]	Darkone	Holden_: ... that's terrible, but also hilarious.
[14:23]	Holden_	Darkone: I have seen this happen, actually
[14:24]	Holden_	well it was Walker in Darkness, not Mask of Winters
[14:24]	Darkone	Holden_: IT's just fucking hilarious to picture.
[14:24]	Aquillion	Holden_: It's also boring mechanically, though.
[14:24]	Holden_	but yeah this DB managed to land a clinch on him
[14:24]	Darkone	Mask: "ARGGH SHIT SHIT SHIT"
[14:24]	Aquillion	Not just as a story.
[14:24]	Holden_	and the group suddenly realized they had him dead to rights
[14:24]	Darkone	Solar: "BITE THE CURB, GHOST-BITCH"
[14:24]	Holden_	and started laying into him as the Storyteller panicked
[14:24]	GSD	the mental image of Mask of Winters having his arms held behind his back, going "oh shit oh shit oh shit" is hilarious.
[14:24]	Holden_	and the DB started cackling and dry-humping Walker from behind
[14:24]	Holden_	(the player knew he was about three seconds from losing his character so he just decided to go for the gusto)
[14:25]	Holden_	and sure enough, the ST panicked and hit the bullshit button and made him hulk out a few moments later and killed most of the group
[14:25]	Holden_	in total contravention of the rules, mind you
[14:25]	Holden_	by the book, they had that fucker down cold and were a couple ticks from killing him with unresisted focus fire