Ralton vs Torture

Ralton R1

Indo vs Veronica

* Veronica scales above vampires who can catch crossbow bolts midair and can blur in front of someone running away from them

* Veronica herself is fast and can also fly in short bursts

* Indo has no speed feats and struggles against opponents who are slower and less agile

* Indo can't tag Veronica and she can just climb on its back and keep hitting it

Ezio vs BT

* BT has a massive advantage in strength, durability, and skill

* Ezio would most likely attempt a stealth kill, but BT is incredibly hard to sneak up on and his instincts let him automatically counter any attempt of a stealth attack

* BT is much more mobile and would reach Ezio before he can get to his ranged weapons

Jonathan vs Blake

* Blake only needs to get within range and she wins by slitting Jonathan's throat

* Blake's speed, stealth, and assassin abilities lets her get the first move, which will be a lethal blow

* Blake can redirect Jonathan's sword to force him within her daggers' range

* If they gain their ranged weapons, Jonathan doesn't benefit while Blake gains throwing knives which can be thrown into Jonathan's eyes

* Blake is fast and scales to arrow timers

* Blake is very sneaky

* Her assassin abilities lets her disappear and teleport a short distance, create an illusion of herself, and turn into a shadow to move fast

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Torture R1

Indo vs Veronica

* Veronica's speed is either OOT or too slow compared to Indo

* Indo's body is based on a T-Rex's with a T-Rex being fast enough to catch up to a 32 mph jeep in the first movie

* Indo is tanky and will slam its body into stone if Veronica attempts to attack from its back

* Veronica's sword isn't strong enough to pierce Indo

* Indo eats her as she has no piercing resistance

* Veronica's detection feat isn't that good in context

* Detecting Indo by sound is difficult due to the wind and waterfall and detecting it by vision is useless due to its camouflage

Ezio vs BT

* Ezio is skilled

* BT focuses on disarming but Ezio's primary weapon is attached to his arm

* Ezio only needs one hit to take out BT with his poison

* Ezio is durable enough to take on BT before he succumbs to poison

* They have comparable speed and agility, but Ezio benefits from ranged pickups while BT doesn't

* Ezio's Eagle Vision will let him track BT to take him out with his gun

* Ezio can leave traps around him to prevent being ambushed

* Ezio has too many useful tools, so he's more likely to go for his ranged pickups rather than immediately fight

Jonathan vs Blake

* Blake scales to bullet timers (you mean arrow timers?) which is OOT

* Ignoring the OOT speed feats, Jonathan should be comparable in speed as he's able to blitz humans

* Jonathan has a major strength advantage

* Blake can't redirect Jonathan since he's much stronger than her

* If they lock blades, Jonathan can send hamon through it to knock Blake out (the feat used isn't by Jonathan but by Joseph)

* Jonathan can grapple and stop her heart with hamon (this is just a link to Joseph's RT, there's no feat here)

* Jonathan can still live for some time even if his wind pipe is torn and just one shot Blake with his strength in this timeframe

* Jonathan can counter stealth by detecting Blake's presence through hamon channeling the wall or water

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Ralton R2

Indo vs Veronica

* Indo is made of the genome of a T-rex not its body structure and is a mashup of many other creatures, so there isn't enough evidence that it scales to the T-rex's speed

* The Indo is also not fully grown (no citation) and the T-rex from the first movie isn't a real T-rex either, putting further disparity

* The Indo's movement speed isn't relevant, its combat speed is and it's been shown struggling to even tag children

* Veronica's speed scaling is sufficient enough to have an advantage over Indo

* Indo isn't tanky enough to forever take attacks from Veronica and will eventually be brought down

* Veronica can outlast the Indo in pure survival

* Indo's camo isn't relevant in this map

* Veronica has super hearing which would let her know Indo was approaching

* Indo rarely uses camo

* Indo's "thrashing" has it fail to get the velociraptor off its back and it only collides against objects because the T-rex forced it to

Ezio vs BT

* Ezio's given durability feat leaves him almost dead and has been killed by less impressive falls

* BT can use martial arts moves like pressure points or targeting ear drums if he thinks Ezio is too durable

* Ezio's skill feats don't compare

* Ezio most likely won't use his poison daggers and even if he does, BT has poison resistance

* BT has greater speed and mobility so Ezio won't ever get to his pickups

* Ezio needs time to aim his gun and he's never aimed at someone with BT's mobility

* BT's senses are too potent for the traps to work

Jonathan vs Blake

* Blake's blitzing feats are better than Jonathan's

* Blake doesn't need to lock blades when she can bypass it

* Speedwagon's durability feat wasn't accurately described and is unusable for scaling

* Jonathan couldn't survive his windpipe being torn out and even if he's able to fight for a little bit, Blake can just run away

* The hamon wall channeling isn't as effective as argued

* Joseph's hamon feats don't apply to Jonathan

* Blake will make the first move and one shot with her superior speed and stealth

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Torture R2

Indo vs Veronica

* The dinos that make up Indo also move about 30 mph

* Indo has multiple examples of being an efficient killer

* Indo can defeat mobile opponent's on his back (except the video was taken down)

* Indo's running speed is relevant for sneak attacks

* Indo is too durable

* Indo's camo is effective

* The noise from the map will muffle out Indo's footsteps

Ezio vs BT

* Ezio is skilled

* Ezio usually uses an opponent's weapon against them, but as BT is unarmed, Ezio would just use his own blades

* The civilian argument is irrelevant

* Ezio's poison works very fast, so BT wouldn't be able to properly fight

* Ezio has other ranged options

Jonathan vs Blake

* Jonathan scales to Joseph as he's the more experienced hamon user

* Jonathan can run away and starve Blake out

* They would lock blades as Ralton argued they would

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Judgements

Indo vs Veronica

Veronica was ruled OOT, but I'll still provide my thoughts on this match. It's really unfortunate Ralton felt the need to use arrow timing feats as his other speed feats were completely sufficient and Veronica would've beaten Indominus Rex. Ralton successfully lays out how Indo already struggles with opponents far less agile and mobile than Veronica. He also points out how scaling Indo's speed to the T-rex's is suspect while also bringing up a good point in how movement speed is irrelevant to the discussion anyways as what matters is Indo's capabilities in using his speed to attack others, which Ralton has shown to be rather awful.

While Indo is clearly very durable, Veronica is strong enough to put him down over time such as by continually wailing on him while on his back. Torture claims that Indo would just thrash around and shove her into stone, but the "thrashing" is ineffective in the very scene shown as Indo fails to get the Velociraptor off and Ralton also points out how slamming its own body into other objects to free itself isn't something it's done before except when being tackled by the T-rex. And Ralton brings up the fact that it would be difficult for Indo to smash the top of its body against something, and Veronica is fast enough to move out the way, leaving only Indo hurt.

I also don't buy the arguments for Indo's stealth capabilties. Ralton brings up the fact that Indo rarely uses its camo and this goes uncontested by Torture. I don't buy the argument that Wuhu Island is so loud that Indo's footsteps would be completely drowned out. Also, the example given for Indo's stealth involves him sneaking through foliage and Veronica's sense feat involves her detecting an enemy from the rustling of foliage.

Torture tries to argue Veronica's speed is either OOT (true) or featless (untrue). The "BOO!" feat is at the very least vaguely fast which is pretty much enough to dodge around Indo.

I think Ralton takes this pretty decidedly, or he would if Veronica didn't get OOT'd. I fail to understand why you thought arrow timing would be a good idea to bring in a tier that's basically really fast real life human reflexes, especially when your other feats were more than sufficient enough against Indo. Indo wins (because of an OOT).

Ezio vs BT

Ralton lays it down simply and succinctly, Bronze Tiger possesses basically every advantage over Ezio, except for gear, but he didn't need it anyways. BT demonstrably has better strength, durability, skill, and senses. Ezio's preference for sneak attacks is made irrelevant by BT's instincts and BT even has better parkour abilities compared to Ezio.

Torture tries to retort with examples of skill for Ezio but Ralton fires back with how BT's skill feats are just much better in comparison. Torture relies on Ezio's poison blade to take down BT, but not only does Ralton bring up how BT actually has pretty decent poison resistance, it's also unlikely for Ezio to even use the poison blade in combat.

Ralton brings up the very good point that Ezio's premier durability feat leaves him nearly dead and he's been shown to die from less impressive falls. Not only that, but BT can perform pressure point strikes or target the ear drums of Ezio, which Torture fails to counter.

Overall, while Ezio does indeed have the gear advantage, it remains irrelevant as BT won't allow Ezio an opportunity to make effective usage of it and would dominate close combat with his superior physicals and skill. Bronze Tiger wins.

Jonathan vs Blake

This is a similar case to Indo vs Veronica where Ralton would've won if he didn't argue his character as arrow timing. Blake possesses better speed (ignoring the arrow timing), the better stealth, and the better abilities. Both characters are capable of taking out the other in a single hit, as Blake's piercing would immediately kill Jonathan or at least leave him surviving for a little before succumbing to his wounds, and Jonathan is physically very strong and Blake has no relevant durability feats. But between the two, Blake is most likely to make the first successful hit thanks to her great stealth. While Torture brings up Jonathan using hamon channeling through the walls to find Blake, Ralton debunks the actual effectiveness of that and also brings into question many of the examples given by Torture for Jonathan's hamon channeling. A majority of them are actually done by a different character and many of Torture's links just lead straight to Joseph's RT instead of actually showing what feat he's using (it's a good idea to reread and check up on every link you make).

There are some parts of Ralton's response that is pretty weird though. He brings into question on why would Blake lock blades with Jonathan, except he's the one that brought that up in his first response in regards to Blake redirecting Jonathan's sword. He also brings up that Blake doesn't need to be stronger than Jonathan to redirect his sword, except the very example he uses has Blake admitting that she possesses the strength advantage over her opponent. which she wouldn't have against Jonathan.

All in all, this fight is settled in one hit, and Ralton establishes that Blake's stealth and speed would guarantee her the first hit, while debunking Jonathan's speed, his survivability to getting his windpipe torn out, and how his hamon channeling feats are done by another character and he lacks the feats to do what Torture argues him to do. However, Jonathan still wins since Blake got OOT'd because Ralton decided to argue her as arrow timing when he didn't need to at all.

Torture wins 2-1