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for their wife's on or or talk about
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their kids if anything they tried to
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pretend they were all single yeah you
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know for marketing reasons I mean I
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remember when in 85 ish right and there
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was an interview with Ricky Steamboat
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and this is when he was with WWWF and
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they go Ricky you know are you single
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and it's like the most awkward thing
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because you know he was married to
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Bonnie and and you know and Bonnie is
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probably if she sees it he says I'm
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single
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it's probably going what did you just
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say but he has to say what he has to say
20:48
because that's the rule yeah so it was
20:50
the most awkward yes I'm single I've
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ever seen in my life so yeah that's yeah
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but but they never did that and then the
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one speaking of it which I just
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steamboat was in 89 when they played up
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Ricky Steamboat family man and all that
21:08
and I mean I would go to the matches and
21:10
this great Ricky Steamboat with having
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these five star matches and everybody
21:14
would boo him because they were all guys
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and they all thought Ric Flair was the
21:18
coolest they knew Rick everyone knew
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Rick was married but they just figured
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yeah he's not a family yeah and and you
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know I mean people forget about that
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Flair steamboat that that most of the
21:28
crowd was behind Flair but I mean the
21:30
matches were so good that didn't matter
21:32
who they were behind but so yeah they're
21:35
doing that and then here it's like
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everything's about you know it's all
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being booked by older guys and granted
21:40
the audience is older but it's all about
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kids and relationships and you know
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women you know like the the hot women
21:48
that just like use guys and that are
21:50
completely self-centered the whole the
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whole lotta thing is such a caricature
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of probably you know the whatever you
21:58
know of like all these women I say that
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and and yet when I say that people go
22:02
out I don't know anyone like that hey I
22:04
always feel like I know everyone like
22:06
isn't that the weirdest thing I know
22:08
people like that
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exactly you know not exactly glacier or
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not to that degree
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you know not to that exaggerated degree
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but it's like it's an exaggerated
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version of show of reality sure yeah so
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anyway Daniel Bryan's out his daughter
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doesn't recognize him she's crying
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miss comes out MS said that Bray Wyatt
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violated my the sanctity of my family
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and mrs. furious and it's like dude you
22:36
just finally he's mad he was mad before
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but it's like it's he's mad before this
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happens he gets destroyed in that match
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and now Miz is out there and he's mad
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again that's like dude it's like you
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should hit him with the mallet you got
22:49
beat you were like the frickin
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transition job guy to set up Daniel
22:54
Bryan the only thing I saw was his promo
22:56
at TLC and I thought it was awful and
23:00
he's a great promo but yeah I know what
23:02
you mean yeah he was he's Jewish too
23:04
gimmicky for the thing just there was
23:07
the any of the passion and the intensity
23:09
was all like he was reading lines off a
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teleprompter well he was you know for
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the most part so you know it ends up
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where Corbin is out and Corbin is just
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basically you know you know just you
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know Corbin is just making fun of the
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kids you know who said that
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Daniel Bryan's daughter was scared
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because daddy looks like baby Yoda and
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he delivered on Linus so you know I mean
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it's like one of those double W lines we
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just go oh god somebody who wants to we
23:45
got to get a Star Wars line in this in
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this promo what do we say and it just
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like whatever and then yeah
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Corbin said that Daniel Bryan's a
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failure and Daniel Bryan got in his face
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and then Dolph Ziggler attacked both of
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them and they kind of left him laying
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you superkicked Miz end of days I get on
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Bryan sets up the tag match
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heavy-machinery out and Mandy Rose is
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the one chosen
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I'm Smackdown I guess everyone has to
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give Secret Santa gifts right so she
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gives Otis a ham and it's Mandy Rose and
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he's all excited because it's Mandy Rose
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right
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so as an idiot he brings the ham to
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ringside you know what's happening right
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so it's some heavy machinery against the
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revival and it's a Miracle on 34th
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Street fight and I mean it's you know
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it's a good match
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rivals always good and and you know when
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Otis makes his comeback the place goes
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nuts you know he's got all that charisma
24:45
and Tuckers a good worker he just
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doesn't have that charisma and Otis does
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like cool stuff always slam on both guys
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at the same time and they do the trash
24:56
compactor on Dawson we'll be seeing a
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lot of that I think and they lose and
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then backstage you know so anyway the
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the ham ends up getting destroyed and
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thrown on the ground and who would
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Dawson through the hammer and threw it
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on the ground so Otis is backstage and
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there's Mandy and he's all sad because
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they destroyed the gift and I'm so sorry
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I should have brought the ham shouldn't
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brought the ham out out in front of the
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crowd and she said it's okay and hugs
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him so he's got that look on his face
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cuz he's hug and then he leaves and
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she's got you know he just wrestled so
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she's got this nice dress on and or nice
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top not even he was a dress but anyway
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she's all all the sweat stains right so
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she acts like all repulsed it's like you
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just hugged a 350 pound guy who had a
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wrestling match and now you're mad
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because you got frickin sweat stains on
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your what were you thinking you know so
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anyway that was that then the revival
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does a promo and yeah they they are they
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are wrestlers not sports entertainers
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Transcript


00:00
how's it going everybody Brian Alvarez
00:01
and not Dave Meltzer here wrestling
00:04
observer radio it is December 31 then
00:06
2019 figure-four online.com slash
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wrestling observer comm in fact I
00:11
believe that Dave is in Japan right now
00:14
he may not be I know they left this
00:17
morning I'm sure that he probably had a
00:19
layover in Hawaii I've never been to
00:21
Japan so I can't give you the full
00:22
flight details or anything like that but
00:24
I do know that he is not here on the
00:25
program tonight not sure exactly what
00:27
the schedule will be for myself and Dave
00:29
but he is there boom he's there Jim
00:32
Valley's there all sorts of people are
00:33
there so there's gonna be a lot of Dave
00:35
Meltzer shows over the next couple of
00:37
weeks but there will also be shows where
00:38
I am going solo and in fact if you
00:42
thought that I was going to let you guys
00:44
go tonight without getting a raw review
00:47
well think again this right here is the
00:52
final Wrestling Observer radio of the
00:57
decade this is the final radio show
01:00
podcast here on this website of the
01:03
decade and if you watch draw the final
01:07
raw of the decade
01:09
the final angle of the 2010s was in fact
01:13
the lana lashley wedding
01:16
that is how w/e is leaving the 2010s i
01:21
could say it's the story of double w/e
01:24
in the 2010s but it's really not it's
01:26
more the story of demo WP over the past
01:28
two years and it was in fact also and
01:31
the only other real news of the day all
01:33
of the other news if you want to hear
01:34
this on today's wrestling observer live
01:36
podcast is up right now we talked about
01:39
this a little bit on that show but the
01:40
biggest news today at least in terms of
01:42
W is in fact that this was also the
01:45
final ever show and thus the Lana
01:49
Lashley wedding was the final thing ever
01:51
to air on Sky Sports as w/e is leaving
01:56
sky after being a part of that
01:59
organization that channel for 30 years
02:03
dating back to 1989 the 30-year WWF WWE
02:10
relationship Sky Sports and WB you eat
02:13
is over
02:13
w we will be moving to BT sports all of
02:17
this has been clear for well over a year
02:19
that the sky double W e relationship was
02:22
coming to an end there were a lot of
02:23
reasons for it w e pay-per-views being
02:26
put on the network god-awful viewership
02:29
numbers that it was a raw a couple of
02:32
months ago that did 3000 viewers on Sky
02:36
and the number was so low that when we
02:40
first got the number of the presumption
02:41
was well this had to be a glitch like it
02:44
just had to be there's no way that
02:45
rotted 3,000 viewers on Sky but that was
02:47
a number 3,000 viewers on Sky it's been
02:51
falling falling falling falling falling
02:52
I mean I hear from people in the UK all
02:55
the time wrestling at WWE it's just
02:58
particularly WVUE
02:59
it's just not cool and nobody's watching
03:02
it right now and thus BT made a bid Sky
03:06
Sports didn't match it didn't even try I
03:08
presume and they are now heading to B
03:10
team BT did want W e they are going to
03:14
push them hard and I guess we'll see
03:17
they they think the people at BT think
03:20
that this could be a great thing for w e
03:22
fans so if you're a double - B fan in
03:24
the UK that's all I can tell you they
03:26
think it's gonna be great for you
03:27
so yeah the final ever raw after 30
03:30
years on Sky Sports ended with this
03:35
lonna lashley wedding so let's not waste
03:39
any time
03:39
let's get into it Kevin Owens comes out
03:42
to open up the show recap what happened
03:45
with him in Samoa Joe last week he says
03:47
they've been running wild week after
03:49
week every week he comes out every week
03:52
he calls him out every week he gets the
03:54
hell beat out of him he's going to keep
03:56
doing it every week but he swears sooner
03:58
or later he's gonna take one of these
04:01
idiots down with him so he doesn't like
04:03
when their actions impact people in the
04:05
locker room the new respects people like
04:06
Ray Mysterio says there aren't a lot of
04:08
people he respects as much as Ray makes
04:10
him sick to watch them gang up on him
04:12
see them stomp his head to the stage
04:14
worst part his hair actions last week he
04:18
believes ry ray lost the title to
04:21
Andrade they show clips of the title
04:24
change talked about this earlier today
04:25
obviously
04:28
they want to build up the house shows we
04:32
talk about Sky Sports and 30 years of
04:35
Dumbo W F and W II this was the year
04:38
that w e was losing money on house shows
04:41
double w e losing money on house shows
04:44
last year it was like a year ago that
04:48
Vince McMahon talked about the house
04:49
show numbers and he said he had a plan I
04:51
got a plan to bring these house show
04:53
numbers up well it's been a year and
04:55
we've seen no improvement we've only
04:57
seen decline but clearly one of the
05:01
ideas one of the easy ways to try to
05:03
increase haoxuan tennis there are a
05:05
couple of ways to increase house show
05:06
attendance first off you got to make
05:09
stars if you have no stars then when you
05:12
run a live event nobody is going to show
05:14
up to see your stars because you don't
05:16
have any stars so you need to build up
05:19
stars where when the circus comes to
05:21
town you've got to go see your favorite
05:24
wrestler that's number one number two I
05:27
know that when they advertise house
05:30
shows it's all about who's gonna be
05:32
there well Ashley's gonna be there Kevin
05:34
Owens gonna be there whatever but if you
05:38
build up rivalries on television and the
05:41
only place to see the match is at your
05:44
local house show that's gonna help sell
05:46
tickets at a show now this worked in the
05:48
80s and for a while in the 90s you
05:51
really can't do that today because what
05:53
man true you're gonna promote on a house
05:55
show that you haven't seen yet on
05:57
television I guess you could say like
05:59
Lashley and Russa but we in fact have
06:01
seen that so there's there's really not
06:03
a lot of matches there's no dream
06:04
matches it's hard to build it on matches
06:07
but I mean in theory like what they did
06:10
with with what's-his-name buddy Murphy
06:14
now is for black you know they built
06:16
that match up for like four weeks so in
06:19
the four weeks before you do the match
06:20
you put that match on your house shows
06:22
maybe you can sell a couple tickets I
06:24
don't know how many because that goes
06:25
back to the first problem of you have to
06:27
create stars that people are willing to
06:29
pay to see but the other thing is if you
06:31
can find a way to make people think if I
06:35
go to this house show I pay my 150 bucks
06:39
to get the whole family there
06:41
maybe I'll actually see something maybe
06:43
this isn't just in a relevant time that
06:45
doesn't mean anything so if you do a
06:47
house show title changes if you do how
06:50
show angles then you got a possibility
06:54
of maybe selling some extra tickets
06:55
because people believe that you know
06:57
what maybe something will happen if I go
06:58
to this show now I don't want to
07:01
complain about it too much because I do
07:02
like the data dat title change at Al's
07:04
show but dude it's Madison Square Garden
07:07
like the tippy top of the food chain in
07:10
terms of house shows if I'm doing a
07:12
title change on house show it's got to
07:15
be a title that people care about which
07:17
was good because it was us title and Ray
07:18
had it but I do a small town a secondary
07:23
market the smaller the town the better
07:25
because you want it in a town small
07:28
enough where fans think oh my god that's
07:32
smaller than my town so if I go to show
07:35
in my town maybe something will happen
07:37
you don't necessarily have to do that
07:39
but Madison Square Garden I mean you're
07:41
telling people it's New York New York
07:42
it's Madison Square Garden I mean you're
07:45
not convincing anybody from Everett or
07:47
whatever random town that you live in
07:49
that if they go to a show they may see a
07:51
title change you've got to do in a
07:52
smaller market but they did it so that's
07:54
at least a positive and they also did
07:56
the angle with Randy Orton where Randy
07:59
Orton suffered an injury supposedly on a
08:02
house show this weekend and it got
08:04
online and they talked about it and they
08:06
turned it into an angle so if you went
08:09
to the show and you saw Randy Orton go
08:11
down with that injury Wow
08:13
that was something that actually meant
08:14
something on television and by showing
08:16
the footage and talking about it you
08:18
told people that hey if the house show
08:20
comes to your town you may see something
08:22
that will play off on Raw so anyway
08:25
point of all of this is they showed the
08:28
footage and they come back and set an
08:31
AOP come out Seth says I'm sacrificing
08:35
myself for the greater good trying to
08:37
take this business into the next decade
08:39
Kevin you've left me no choice but to
08:42
impose my will if you resist you saw
08:45
what happened to Ray and Samoa Joe we
08:48
will enforce my will AOP will enforce my
08:51
will on you so Kevin attacks AOP he
08:55
his ass kicked Seth wants to know when
08:57
Kevin is going to learn it's a great
08:59
question
09:00
Lawler says this is not a smart decision
09:02
by Kevin Owens who was a top babyface
09:05
and he's right and finally at least this
09:08
week Samoa chose music hits he runs down
09:11
he kicks ass he pummels both of ALP Seth
09:15
challenges him Joe beats his ass as well
09:18
puts him in the choke AOP jumps him and
09:21
then Seth accidentally her he jumps him
09:24
and then Kevin hits ring with a chair
09:25
somehow Seth still beats Kevin Owens ass
09:29
even though Kevin Owens hit the ring
09:31
with a chair and then everybody runs in
09:33
and pulls them apart Kevin does a flip
09:35
dive off the post on everybody which
09:36
gets a big pop and that was the segment
09:40
Joe is a great babyface this was a great
09:43
opening segment to set up a tag match a
09:46
series of tag matches but if you watched
09:49
the show amazingly they kicked out
09:55
everybody involved we have Joe backstage
09:59
with Charlie
09:59
she asked him why he would get involved
10:01
in this situation he's like well duh
10:03
they attacked me last week I'm out here
10:07
I'm gonna be standing by Kevin Owens
10:09
he's never gonna be alone again Kevin
10:11
says I've known a lot of bad people
10:12
never anyone as bad as you I mean that
10:15
the nicer way possible never imagined
10:18
you'd be on my side in this fight but if
10:19
it's gonna happen I'm glad it's you and
10:21
Kevin says I know they're gonna show up
10:23
and ask us to leave this happens every
10:24
week but hey we did what we needed to do
10:27
tonight I will go home and think about
10:29
it for seven days and security shows up
10:32
they throw them out and to jump for a
10:35
little bit
10:36
hey opium seller backstage security
10:38
shows up they kick them out now because
10:42
it's a wrestling show my presumption is
10:44
a lot of fans figured well they got
10:47
kicked out they'll surely be back by the
10:49
end of the show
10:50
well three full hours and none of them
10:54
ever came back they actually kicked them
10:58
out of the building at the beginning of
11:00
the first hour some of the biggest stars
11:01
on the entire brand we never saw him
11:03
again now the good news is we saw buddy
11:07
Murphy versus Alistair black
11:09
and they had a great match this was by
11:13
far the best thing on the show this was
11:15
the best rob match in a long time this
11:18
was the most New Japan style match that
11:22
I can remember in forever I'm trying to
11:26
remember the last time I saw a match on
11:27
double-double Yui TV there was more of a
11:30
New Japan style match in this one now
11:33
how they got I should say how they got
11:37
away with it because I mean the match
11:38
was booked but Triple H wasn't at the
11:42
building all day and Vince McMahon
11:45
wasn't at the building until literally
11:47
the show went on the air so they just
11:50
got an opportunity to I guess put the
11:52
match together they wanted to put
11:53
together and they went out there and it
11:56
was every I mean this this could have
11:59
been not one of the better ones but it
12:02
this could have been a good g1 match
12:03
they went out there mirror spots
12:05
striking battles all of these great
12:08
smiles and what was amazing about it was
12:10
the fans went crazy for everything that
12:16
if this were in any other this was a
12:18
match where sometimes on rise say you
12:19
know what if these guys had the match
12:22
anywhere else in the world it would be
12:24
better I can't even say that about this
12:26
match this match was so good and they
12:29
could have done they would have done
12:31
probably the exact same match anywhere
12:34
else in the world they're so good and
12:36
they did all these spots here at the end
12:38
there was a deal where I guess they'd a
12:42
striking exchange Murphy tried to come
12:44
ago a goes for a v-trigger
12:47
and then tries to suplex but black turns
12:49
a suplex into a brain buster he hits
12:51
this brain buster like 3/4 of the weight
12:54
of the match the crowd stood up and gave
12:57
them a standing ovation there were this
13:00
is awesome chance it was so good and
13:03
black finally hits the black mass Murphy
13:06
crumples black puts his foot underneath
13:08
his chin lifts him back up to his feet
13:11
gives him another black mass gets the
13:13
pin this match was awesome so if you
13:17
don't want to watch the wedding if you
13:19
only want to watch the best stuff on Raw
13:20
if you don't watch Robbie
13:22
in this show to find out what to watch
13:24
go back and watch this match it was
13:26
awesome
13:27
then we had a Opie and SEF kicked out
13:29
and then the vintner Erica Rowan is
13:33
backstage with Lana and he's very upset
13:35
that he did not get an invitation he
13:37
says did you misplace it or don't you
13:40
like me and she doesn't answer and so he
13:43
holds up his cage and he goes how do you
13:45
rushes off it was just bizarre up
13:49
preview for what we're gonna get later
13:51
with this wedding we had breaking news
13:54
or ad or an injured at another live
13:56
event they are trying very hard to sell
13:59
tickets to these live events waiter Owen
14:02
squash I don't know if they mentioned
14:03
the guy's name it was Francis Kipling
14:06
Stephens another guy named Kip that's
14:09
two of them we've had in the last few
14:10
weeks that are jabbers rone kills him
14:13
nothing to it
14:14
Lana's getting rain in her hotel room
14:16
she's bending over putting oil all over
14:19
her legs boobs and she alerts us that
14:22
she loves herself are you aware of that
14:24
everybody that Lana loves herself
14:25
because if you're not aware of it you
14:27
sure were by the end of this show they
14:29
made sure that you knew that Charlotte
14:34
comes out and she's cutting a promo and
14:37
she says I am excited to be in this
14:41
woman's Royal Rumble but we all knew I
14:45
was gonna be in the Royal Rumble I knew
14:47
that you all knew that she says I didn't
14:50
know that when are they on since
14:51
Charlotte was gonna be in the women's
14:52
Royal Rumble I had no idea she says you
14:55
fans don't want me to come out and state
14:57
the obvious brags about all the things
14:59
she's accomplished says she is the
15:01
greatest of all time don't forget
15:04
humbles as Jerry Lawler at which point
15:06
I'm desperately trying to figure out I
15:08
need Dave here on the show so I can ask
15:10
him if she a babyface or is she a heel
15:13
because that was a heel promo but I
15:14
guarantee 99.99% able to tell me that
15:18
she's a babyface
15:19
but this was a heel promo then she says
15:21
who wants to come out and bow down to
15:25
the Queen so whose music should hit but
15:29
Natalya and Natalya the last time I saw
15:34
her I mean correct me if I'm wrong
15:36
time I saw Nattie she came out she was
15:39
at the Saudi Arabia show in the
15:43
first-ever women's match w e women's
15:45
match in a Saudi Arabia show they pushed
15:47
her like some big giant superstar she
15:49
comes back the next week on television
15:51
she taps out Oscar clean in the middle
15:53
as a babyface here she is she's a heel I
15:57
know she's a heel because she screams I
16:00
have a bigger bitch than you she yells
16:02
at the referee she tells him to shut up
16:05
she's working heel so they're doing this
16:07
match
16:08
I'll son in the middle of it all of the
16:11
24/7 geeks run down and they chase truth
16:14
all over the place I was pretty much
16:16
done with the show at this point and
16:17
they were still like two hours left Eric
16:20
Young hits the ring Charlotte lays him
16:22
out this is somehow not a DQ heads into
16:24
the break we come back Nattie's hitting
16:27
all these big moves German suplexes I
16:29
never can figure out why people work so
16:33
hard in a match where we the viewers are
16:36
told this is nothing but a joke when
16:39
those 24/7 dudes run out and they're
16:41
running around the ring and they get
16:42
inside the ring your match is a joke but
16:45
man they're working their asses off in
16:47
there and finally Nattie avoids a
16:49
moonsault avoids a figure-four but
16:52
finally Charlotte puts her in the
16:54
figure-eight Nattie fights fights fights
16:56
and she taps and actually the funny
16:59
thing was Charlotte's in the bridge and
17:01
naty's just she's fighting and she's
17:03
fighting and she's fighting and I was a
17:05
gymnast and I'm watching this going
17:07
Charlotte's just gotta be pissed she's
17:10
holding this bridge upside down for a
17:12
long time
17:13
cuz Nattie ain't happened and finally
17:15
she taps and Charlotte wins and I don't
17:19
know why after all of these years but it
17:22
suddenly struck me why is it weird and
17:27
creepy when Bray Wyatt does a bridge but
17:31
when Charlotte does the exact same
17:32
bridge it's a cool finisher I don't know
17:37
so anyway besides all of the 24/7 stuff
17:41
this actually was a pretty good match so
17:44
Charlie's backstage with Becky Lynch and
17:48
Charlie says Oscars
17:50
agreed to the match Becky says January
17:53
26 in Houston at the Royal Rumble it
17:55
will be myself
17:56
Becky versus Oscar for the women's title
17:58
and Charlie says how did this happen
18:02
Becky says easy my contract was coming
18:06
to and that's what I asked for before we
18:08
ever started even talking about anything
18:09
else
18:10
Charlie says and this is a quote I mean
18:14
I don't even know what to say here it
18:16
sounds like you're putting it all on the
18:18
line here what she's putting it all on
18:22
the line what is what is her
18:25
renegotiating her contract and making
18:28
sure that she gets a match with us as
18:30
part of her contract what is what does
18:33
anything have to do with putting all of
18:34
this on the line like is there a
18:35
storyline here where if Becky doesn't be
18:39
Tosca she doesn't get her new contract
18:41
could nobody said anything about that
18:43
but Charlie's question it didn't make
18:45
any sense I don't even know what to say
18:48
here it sounds like you're putting it
18:50
all on the line here
18:51
what so anyway Becky says I could sit
18:55
back I could sign one of the biggest
18:57
contracts in history if I just kept my
18:59
mouth shut all the decision makers told
19:01
me to forget about last year but that's
19:03
not enough for me when you're the Golden
19:06
Goose
19:07
you get the golden handcuffs I don't
19:09
know if I can be Tosca but I will wipe
19:12
my record even if it kills me
19:15
so maybe as I said there's something
19:18
here that they haven't told us about
19:19
maybe Charlie just asked a stupid
19:21
question like everybody asks stupid
19:23
questions but it seemed like there was
19:24
more here than they were telling us or
19:26
they forgot to tell us something or god
19:28
forbid maybe I just missed something but
19:30
it was weird
19:31
we had the same live Morgan promo and
19:34
then AJ and the OC come out and they're
19:37
cutting this promo about last week hey
19:40
JB Dorton the OC laughs the stupid
19:43
people thought the Viking raiders
19:44
weren't beatable but they're not street
19:46
prophets interrupts and they're doing
19:48
their thing and AJ tells him to stick to
19:51
their stick backstage or they're gonna
19:53
get their asses kicked and the prophets
19:55
tell them they're named after a teen
19:57
soap opera so the OC tells me to shut up
19:59
getting the ring will kick your asses so
20:02
we get OC versus the street profits
20:04
and the crowd is totally dead early AJ
20:08
finally grabs Dawkins foot he gets
20:10
ejected now I know I complain about this
20:14
every week I will try to make it quick
20:17
but I got a point that I don't usually
20:19
mention they go to break and they get
20:25
the heat during the break okay I know I
20:27
complain about that every week but I got
20:29
more I got another important point to
20:31
this not only do they get the heat
20:34
during the break so we don't even know
20:36
what happened we don't even know how the
20:38
OC got the advantage here like in a
20:40
story arc we don't even know what what
20:42
happened to start the conflict conflict
20:45
has occurred when we come back so we
20:47
come back we don't know what happened
20:50
but then they just lay there in a
20:53
chinlock why can't you do the heat
20:58
before the break and then do the
21:02
chinlock during the break and then do
21:06
whatever you're gonna do after the break
21:07
after the break when there's action my
21:12
point is they come back from commercial
21:14
and in a four-minute span 75% of that
21:18
maybe more was laying on the mat and it
21:21
chinlock why was that not done during
21:23
the commercial break so not only do they
21:25
not show me the heat but they do action
21:28
during the commercial and then after the
21:30
commercial they come back for the chilla
21:31
if you're into the building if you're in
21:35
the building you're seeing the chinlock
21:38
one way or the other
21:40
however if you're watching at home on a
21:42
show by the way where last week they
21:44
didn't even break two million viewers
21:45
for any of the three hours so this is
21:48
not like an audience heavy show right
21:50
now they're at all-time lows the
21:52
audience live is gonna see the chinlock
21:54
anyway so why not put that during the
21:56
break and not subject your viewers to a
21:59
four-minute chinlock when you come back
22:01
from the break so we do the chin up chin
22:03
up chin lock chin locked chin election
22:05
election lock finally Dawkins makes a
22:07
comeback he throws everybody all over
22:09
the place it's a good comeback breaks
22:10
down into the 4-way Montez hits the big
22:13
dive Dawkins hits a spinebuster and
22:15
Anderson Montes hits a big splash gets
22:17
to pin
22:18
so next week they are doing the
22:21
three-way match for the tag team titles
22:23
I'll talk about the lineup here in a
22:25
little while so street prophets are
22:28
doing their deal and their usual thing
22:32
backstage hyping up the show and they've
22:34
beaten the OSI twice they think that
22:37
makes them well actually I got to make
22:39
sure I explained who's saying what
22:42
Montez says that makes us the best tag
22:46
team in the universe Dawkins says you
22:51
must think bigger and so there's a
22:55
moment of silence of Montez says what's
22:58
bigger than the universe Dawkins says or
23:03
the best tag team in the multiverse I'll
23:08
test says what's the multiverse
23:09
so then Angelo Dawkins has to try to
23:13
explain the concept of the multiverse
23:16
and he gets started and it's like
23:20
somebody wrote him the dialogue and he's
23:22
trying to memorize it but he doesn't
23:24
know anything about what a multiverse is
23:25
so he's stumbling his way through it and
23:28
all of a sudden he starts getting it
23:31
goes it gets slower and slower and
23:33
finally in the middle of a sentence he
23:35
just stops and there's dead silence and
23:41
Montez jumps in and says and we've got a
23:45
wedding tonight and the OSI we beat them
23:48
and they just move on I was dying I
23:51
don't know if it was on purpose or not
23:53
but I was dying during this segment we
23:57
have former raw tag-team champions
24:00
Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder who in fact
24:04
won the World Tag Team Championships add
24:07
to this year's WrestleMania they face
24:10
drew McIntyre in a handicap match can't
24:14
remember a few months ago we're like The
24:15
OC one in a handicap match but they were
24:17
told that management wasn't gonna allow
24:18
handicap matches apparently that's been
24:20
dropped drew comes out he cuts a promo
24:22
he says you all think I'm supposed to be
24:25
at a disadvantage here he didn't say
24:26
y'all he's Scottish I'm not the guy you
24:29
should be worried these
24:31
should be worried attacks them before
24:33
the bell he destroys Hawkins in the ring
24:35
as writers laid out outside it's a big
24:39
throw he's going for the Claymore kick
24:41
he goes three two one the crowds
24:45
chanting along with him hits the big
24:48
Claymore kick writer gets in the ring he
24:51
gets laid out as well and fans cheer as
24:55
the sexy Scott man a Scotsman is he's
24:58
called drew McIntyre pins both of these
25:01
guys so again I wish Dave were here so I
25:04
could say Dave is Drew McIntyre supposed
25:06
to be a babyface now I need to say oh I
25:08
think it's a heel I think it's a
25:10
babyface I guess we'll find out Brock
25:14
Lesnar is back next week also next week
25:17
ray versus Andrade in the rematch from
25:20
the title change at house show and the
25:22
street profits will face the Viking
25:24
raiders and the OC for the tag team
25:27
titles all of these taking place on next
25:30
week's show the injured Randy Orton
25:34
comes out and he is on crutches it takes
25:37
him two full minutes to get into the
25:40
ring he's normally slow on his entrance
25:42
but it was two full time Don my watch
25:47
minutes for him to get into the ring and
25:49
the fans are chanting his name and he's
25:53
very morose and he says there is a
25:55
saying in this business that it ain't
25:57
ballet what that means is accidents
26:01
injuries happen all of the guys and the
26:04
girls in the locker room that lace up a
26:06
pair of boots and perform they are well
26:08
aware of that fact it kills me that I
26:11
needed help to get this ring tonight
26:12
I've seen champions surrender titles to
26:15
to injury including one man I actually
26:17
respect he says edge
26:19
he had his surrender not only is titled
26:22
but his entire career to an injury but
26:25
I'm rambling he says long story short I
26:27
screwed up my leg bad I landed funny
26:29
something popped in my knee and I didn't
26:32
know how bad until the doctor looked at
26:35
the MRI I'm gonna be at a long time and
26:38
in fact there's a good chance I won't
26:41
ever be able to come back apparently the
26:43
injury is so bad he may have to have his
26:45
leg
26:45
amputated says one way or the other
26:49
somebody is getting RK out at
26:52
WrestleMania
26:53
so AJ's music hits he comes out he says
26:57
I can't believe I have to wait until
26:59
WrestleMania to fight you again irani
27:02
says it's not the time or the place AJ
27:03
says it is the time in the place what
27:05
are you gonna do strike I don't think so
27:07
I want to do something I haven't done
27:09
since I'm 5 he gets in close and goes
27:11
I'm not touching you I'm not touching
27:12
you or says don't do that again
27:15
hey J says what are you gonna do stand
27:16
there and take it I know you weren't
27:19
picked on in school but you're being
27:20
picked on here tonight
27:21
funny says fate bitch you before you
27:24
could bite fate or me and I'm gonna give
27:27
the people tonight here I'm gonna give
27:29
them what they want
27:31
I'm gonna put my hands behind my back
27:33
I'm gonna let you strike puts his hands
27:36
behind his back nothing
27:38
hey J says I'm gonna close my eyes Randy
27:42
does nothing he says man you really are
27:45
hurt aren't you he says well I'm a
27:48
patient man and I will wait until
27:50
WrestleMania to put that leg in a calf
27:52
crusher and retire you so he turns to
27:56
leave but then stops and comes back and
27:58
he kicks out Randy's crutch Randy's on
28:01
one crutch now and he's limping around
28:02
fans are chanting AJ sucks fans are into
28:05
this angle so he's going to leave and
28:08
Rainey says you know what the big
28:11
difference is between you and I you're
28:14
patient and I'm not and he leaps and he
28:17
hits the RKO start stomping on the
28:20
ground like Rumpelstiltskin to prove
28:22
this leg is okay starts dancing around
28:24
he's not hurt at all I loved it I loved
28:28
this segment I don't care what anybody
28:30
says
28:30
my favorite WWE storyline right now is
28:34
Randy Orton vs. AJ Styles and it's all
28:38
the simplest easiest stuff I love it we
28:45
had more clips of Andrade beating ray
28:47
for the u.s. title
28:48
wait a post-match promo from MSG ray
28:51
says looking forward to the rematch and
28:53
as for Seth and aop don't count me out
28:57
I didn't start this
28:59
but I promise when this is all over I'll
29:02
be standing tall I do not think that he
29:07
will be standing tall Andrade's doing a
29:10
squash he's about did the DDT but Selena
29:13
says no no no come outside do it here so
29:17
he tosses the job or outside guy goes
29:20
over the top and almost gets his egg
29:21
actually got his neck caught on the
29:22
bottom rope Holmes killed himself
29:24
I'm Troy he's going to hit the DDT on
29:26
the cement but a ricochet comes out
29:27
makes a save this leads to a match so
29:31
ricochet sells for a while couple of
29:34
comebacks finally they go outside I
29:38
swear to god this happened ricochet is
29:42
about to be ddt'd on the cement but he
29:45
fights his way free they brawl at
29:48
ringside he goes running head full of
29:51
steam Andrade ducks he tosses him high
29:55
in the air I'm talking too high toss
29:57
ricochet lands right on his back on the
30:01
cement so he takes a back drop on the
30:05
goddamn cement they go to commercial
30:08
they come back from commercial and he's
30:11
making a comeback and he's jumping and
30:14
he's doing hurricanrana 'he's running
30:17
shooting star presses I'm like dude I'm
30:20
sure taking a backdrop on the cement
30:22
sounds like a good idea when you're like
30:24
in your early 30s or your late 20s or
30:27
especially when you're like a teenager
30:28
but dude it'll be 44 someday and your
30:31
backs gonna be thrashed and your next
30:34
gonna be all messed up and you'll be
30:36
wondering why the did I take a
30:38
backdrop on the cement right before
30:40
commercial and when we came back from
30:42
the commercial I'm just making a
30:44
comeback like it never happened
30:45
so he makes this big comeback and
30:48
Andrade it's a Judas effect out of
30:50
nowhere ricochet kicks out goes up top
30:52
so Lina shoves him off Andrade hits
30:55
Aditi gets the pin Sara then asks
31:00
Andrade how confident are you going on
31:02
the match with Rey Salinas says
31:04
everybody wanted a piece of Andrade but
31:07
Andrade took them all out he's gonna
31:10
beat up Rey again
31:11
Andrade says this is my
31:13
year rey mysterio was the past i Andrade
31:17
used to be the future but now I am the
31:20
US Champion it's good stuff
31:22
I like Andrade and now it is time for
31:27
the wedding and what I'm going to do
31:29
here before we get to the wedding if you
31:32
want to skip forward three minutes go
31:33
for it but this is the feedback that I
31:37
got in my email bin this is not a single
31:41
text message to the text message line on
31:43
Wrestling Observer live this is not a
31:45
single tweet this is not a single
31:48
response to a tweet if I went through
31:50
all of those would be like 500 responses
31:51
this is only people who bothered to send
31:54
me an email to Brian at wrestling
31:57
observer comm this person says I watched
32:00
the final 20 minutes of Raw undoubtedly
32:02
that makes the top three worst raw
32:04
endings of all time first off wedding
32:06
angles are incredibly outdated in
32:08
wrestling that went out of style in 2004
32:11
second out of all the ways they could
32:13
have brought live Morgan back they
32:15
brought her back as a lesbian for some
32:17
LGBT storyline nonsense a far cry from
32:20
the sister Abigail wishes people asked
32:23
for further reason Vince needs to go by
32:27
the way before you read any more of
32:29
these Sonya Deville on Twitter does not
32:32
appear to be happy
32:33
sonja de ville very much wanted to do an
32:36
LGBT storyline in fact I don't know for
32:39
sure but if you watch Smackdown I mean
32:42
probably five six months ago they
32:48
appeared to be leading in that direction
32:50
with Sony and Mandy and it just got
32:51
dropped
32:52
much like their first breakup got
32:54
dropped and now she's watching her idea
32:58
and it's Lana and Liv Morgan this person
33:03
here says double w he opened the septic
33:05
tank which overflowed into their Monday
33:07
Night Raw closing skit absolute wretched
33:10
television Vince needs to off this
33:13
person says double W E when an awesome
33:15
match is closing out raw and the show at
33:17
three hours when there's a horrible
33:19
segment on Raw give it ten more minutes
33:21
of overrun it that's true ten a minute
33:24
over run for the wedding here tonight
33:27
this person says horrendous dialogues
33:30
terrible acting nonsensical random
33:33
characters LGBTQ shaming lame re debut
33:37
of Liv Morgan that segment had it all
33:40
I hope brought tanks down to a 1.5 so
33:43
Vinny can do a dance person says I'm not
33:46
sure you and Vince Russo and his prime
33:48
could book as stinking wedding garbage
33:50
of a segment as W Eaton ight I was
33:52
stunned watching that whole thing it
33:54
went on and on just would not end eleven
33:56
minute overrun don't know how they
33:59
pulled it off this person says how the
34:02
hell do I explain that segment to a non
34:04
wrestling fan if they asked me about it
34:05
I am 100 percent embarrassed tonight
34:08
this person what Vince pulled tonight at
34:11
the end of Raw was one of the most
34:12
embarrassing and revolting segments I
34:14
have ever witnessed this person says it
34:18
was okay for the first five to ten
34:19
minutes nothing horrible then it got
34:21
progressively and significantly worse
34:23
each passing second guy comes out
34:26
claiming to be Lana's husband the one
34:28
lady comes out claiming to be rusev his
34:29
wife live Morgan who claims to be a real
34:31
lesbian all random the entire thing felt
34:34
it was done to troll and torture the
34:36
audience a nonsensical wedding straight
34:38
out of TNA this person says the wedding
34:42
was so bad hashtag Lonnie Lashley
34:45
wedding is trending on Twitter and the
34:46
response is the most negative I've seen
34:48
for W in a while
34:49
wow there's a lot at double W e
34:52
defenders on Twitter just check out my
34:54
timeline and they hated it this person
34:58
says double w e booked that marriage
34:59
segment on Russo's influence by pulling
35:01
characters out of their ass I could not
35:03
believe what I was watching this person
35:06
says it was worse than I imagined I
35:07
think they may have consulted Russo for
35:09
all of this it was that bad worse than
35:11
2000 WCW and after you watch it I don't
35:15
want you disagreeing this person says
35:18
all those vignettes for live Morgan only
35:20
for her to be a low-key lesbian wedding
35:23
crasher the wedding was beyond horrible
35:25
and torturous this person says don't
35:29
watch it there is a solid 90 percent
35:31
chance you will have a stroke think
35:33
about your family well I didn't have a
35:35
stroke this person says I have no words
35:38
by the way I'm still reading only emails
35:40
I got after the show
35:41
I have no words for that Lana and
35:43
lashley marriage garbage insufferable
35:44
how the did they manage to get a
35:46
10-minute overrun this week this person
35:49
says Brian do not watch that Lana
35:52
Lashley wedding at any cost cause if you
35:55
do I'm sure you will be admitted to your
35:57
nearest hospital 25 minutes of pure hell
36:00
actually it's a local medical facility
36:02
this person here I don't care about aw
36:05
but I think McMahon definitely hired
36:07
Vince Russo Russo books that Lana
36:09
Lashley ending I am convinced this
36:12
person all caps worst raw ending segment
36:15
ever and I think that's it those were
36:19
all just my emails so anyway no I'm not
36:27
gonna defend this wedding I will say
36:30
that there were a couple of moments
36:32
during the wedding that I thought were
36:34
cute for a moment but in the end it was
36:38
horrible no I do not think that
36:42
Vince Russo was involved you know what
36:44
this was I know that people say all the
36:47
time why does Vince hate us why does
36:50
Vince write bad shows and I tell people
36:52
all the time what Vince puts on
36:55
television for the most part he thinks
36:57
it's good if he didn't think it was good
37:00
like if if he was just trying to do bad
37:02
TV people would give him a script and go
37:05
to put on TV who gives a we got a
37:06
2.3 billion dollar television deal who
37:08
cares but no he rewrites it and he
37:11
rewrites it and he rewrites it and he
37:13
changes things during the show sometimes
37:15
because he's trying to put together what
37:18
he thinks is actually the best show for
37:21
business okay
37:23
now with that said every now and then he
37:29
does a segment like this wedding
37:32
Lashley's sisters poor Lashley by the
37:35
way that's another one he was involved
37:37
in but there are segments where they are
37:40
designed to be bad and they are designed
37:45
to be bad because the idea is you won't
37:48
be able to tear yourself away from the
37:50
television you won't be able to stop
37:53
watching
37:54
and a thing with segments is the longer
37:57
the segment goes the more people keep
38:01
tuning in and watching we saw this for
38:04
decades we've seen this and and usually
38:06
it's with matches like the longer a
38:08
match goes the higher the rating goes
38:10
for the match this segment was designed
38:13
to be long so that it would hopefully do
38:16
a huge number in the overrun and at the
38:19
end of the show it was designed to be
38:21
bad so that everybody would be talking
38:23
about it so they would get attention
38:25
whether whether good or bad you know
38:28
Vince Vince sometimes sees violently
38:32
angry fans and he thinks it's funny
38:34
because he believes in some cases that
38:39
this outrage is going to be good for
38:41
business
38:41
you're gonna tune in next week to find
38:43
out where this goes you're going to tune
38:46
in to find out what's going on with
38:48
these people you're gonna tell your
38:49
friends about it they're gonna tune in
38:50
that's why he does these segments
38:53
sometimes that's what this was it was
38:56
not supposed to be good it's impossible
38:59
this was designed to be a trainwreck one
39:04
of the only good things about this was
39:07
the officiant i got a local actor he
39:10
played his role great he first
39:13
introduces the groom the all-mighty
39:16
bobby lashley which by the way in double
39:18
w/e canon social media almighty is two
39:23
words i have no idea why probably cuz
39:25
they can trade market so he introduces
39:27
the all-mighty bobby lashley he comes
39:30
out in a sleeveless tux to his theme
39:32
song then he introduces the ravishing
39:36
Russian Lana even though she is no
39:38
longer a Russian she comes out in a
39:41
short skirt wedding dress so the
39:45
officiant is babbling on about life and
39:48
shared blessings he says I speak for
39:51
everybody tonight and hoping this
39:53
blessing makes both of you better
39:55
versions of yourselves I was hoping he
39:57
could bless the writing team I'd like
40:00
better versions of them as well he
40:03
mentions the pitter-patter of little
40:04
feet that will be in their house someday
40:06
she says hold on a second I didn't put
40:08
that
40:08
the script I don't want little monsters
40:10
I don't want any creatures coming into
40:12
my body they're gonna make me all fat
40:14
cut the and read what I wrote the
40:18
efficient says Bobby are you sure you
40:21
want to continue like he's a ref that's
40:23
what he said Bobby are you sure you want
40:25
to continue that was funny Bobby says
40:28
yes which by the way what why is Bobby
40:33
into this fans chant Rousseff day she
40:36
screams it's not about rusev phishing
40:39
says you have found each other's other
40:42
half and we're all happy for you both
40:44
and you have chosen to write your own
40:47
vows Ashley screams and the fans - shut
40:50
up this is my day she says it's all
40:52
about me I'm gonna read my vows I wrote
40:56
her goddamn I bought both of their vows
40:58
down and I had to sit through the
41:00
so I'm gonna read them here on the air
41:01
you don't have to sit through it - my
41:04
Bobby I have to tell you that this is
41:08
the luckiest day of your entire life
41:11
because you are marrying the greatest
41:14
double w/e superstar of all time and
41:16
you're also joining in holy matrimony
41:18
with the greatest woman who has ever
41:21
lived you see no woman on this planet
41:24
will compare to me not even her small
41:28
little pinkie will compared to my
41:31
charisma of everything whoa let me read
41:34
that one more time this is an exact
41:37
quote you see no woman on this planet
41:40
will compare to me not even her small
41:44
little pinkie will compared to my
41:46
charisma of everything I'm sorry
41:51
that all of you are pretty pathetic but
41:52
the reality is that Bobby you have
41:54
worked so hard your entire life you have
41:56
strived for excellence to be the best at
41:59
everything and the best gift you can
42:01
give yourself is me she starts a LAN a
42:05
day chant it's all about me she says
42:08
it's my day if you're sick of hearing
42:12
it's all about me it's my day I don't
42:16
know what to tell you cuz it's just
42:17
starting she says every moment of your
42:20
life Bobby has led
42:22
to this day here it's the greatest
42:24
moment of your career the greatest
42:26
moment of your life the greatest moment
42:28
of your manhood I just want to jump on
42:31
top of you and make love to you right
42:33
here right now amazingly she didn't say
42:36
sex fifty five times she leaps into his
42:40
arms they kiss and he puts her down at
42:43
which point deadpan the officiant says
42:45
Bobby thank you for your restraint that
42:49
guy's great she then explains I wrote
42:54
Lashley's vows and he's gonna read them
42:57
right now
42:59
Lashley reads the following Lana I am
43:03
really the luckiest man on the face of
43:05
this entire planet not only because I'm
43:08
going to marry the most successful
43:09
female superstar in the history of w/e
43:11
but I am being joined in holy matrimony
43:14
by a woman no other woman in the world
43:16
can compare to I have spent my entire
43:19
life striving to be my very best in
43:22
everything I do
43:23
and you're the greatest gift I could
43:25
ever give myself here we are on the
43:28
final Monday Night Raw of the decade
43:30
only 25 hours before the New Year and
43:33
everything I've done in my entire life
43:35
before this moment has led me to this
43:36
the greatest moment of my career the
43:39
greatest moment of my life the greatest
43:41
moment of my manhood Lana thank you for
43:44
allowing me to marry you Lana has
43:47
another freak out in the middle of this
43:50
about how this is all about her now
43:52
listen I know the idea is it's supposed
43:57
to make you hate her it's supposed to be
44:00
heat this is the Baron Corbin go away
44:03
heat and what's most infuriating about
44:06
it is it's such a horrible
44:10
one-dimensional shitty character now I
44:15
haven't been watching a lot of movies
44:16
but let me tell you something my baby
44:21
was born on 9 1919 I had to do a lot of
44:27
sitting with that child
44:28
for hours on end and so I watched a lot
44:32
of movies I got back into watching
44:33
movies again and
44:35
not only did I watch movies with her on
44:38
my lap but my daughter has made me go to
44:40
frozen with her four times in the last
44:42
two weeks and I've watched actual movies
44:45
would that actual writers like real
44:49
writers who know how to write stories
44:50
put these movies together with actual
44:52
characters with characters that aren't
44:55
just one-dimensional nothing happening
44:57
characters dot characters and frozen or
44:59
cartoons and there are three-dimensional
45:01
characters this lana character is
45:05
bottom-of-the-barrel you saying it's
45:09
one-dimensional is like an insult to
45:12
one-dimensional characters she just goes
45:14
out there and says the same thing it's
45:18
all about me
45:19
there's not even subtlety to it it's all
45:21
about me I'm the one it's all about on
45:24
and on and on it's the worst kind of go
45:27
away heat as the ravishing Russian with
45:30
rusev they actually were
45:32
three-dimensional characters she's left
45:35
rusev and now both of them have gone
45:38
from three-dimensional characters to
45:39
basically one-dimensional characters
45:41
especially her so she's going on and on
45:44
they start doing the ring gimmick the
45:47
efficient then says huh boy this is the
45:50
part I dread if there is any man or
45:53
woman with just cause why these two
45:55
lovely human beings should not be
45:57
married speak now or forever hold your
46:00
peace some dude comes out in real life
46:06
this zj risk indi guy trained by Curt
46:08
Hawkins he claims that he is Lana's
46:12
first husband he says Lana and I got
46:15
married the day she turned 18 and then
46:17
she left me for that son of a bitch
46:19
rusev and now she left that son of a
46:23
bitch for this son of a bitch and
46:25
someday she's gonna leave him when
46:27
something bigger and better comes along
46:29
because that's what she does now I'm not
46:32
sure she's gonna find anything bigger
46:33
than Bobby Lashley and I don't know
46:35
about better but anyway Lashley gets mad
46:38
he who walks over it is sleeveless tux
46:42
he grabs this dude and he choke slams
46:45
him in the middle of a wedding I laughed
46:47
it's
46:48
ridiculous this guy rolls outside he's
46:51
dead fishy and says if there is any man
46:57
or what he does whole thing again no one
47:00
comes out he goes hallelujah he's about
47:02
to marry them when suddenly a woman
47:03
comes out she says I am bobby lashley
47:06
his first wife in real life Karissa
47:09
Rivera done some jobs for double W in
47:11
the past
47:12
Lana's furious Lashley never told her
47:15
that he was married wait'll she gets on
47:17
the internet swimmin says her and Bobby
47:20
met when Bobby was in the military it
47:22
was so beautiful I guess falling in love
47:25
in the military lana punches her off the
47:28
apron Lashley's just gobsmacked the
47:31
officiant goes over it again if there is
47:35
any man a third time and then he says
47:38
please make it just cause and we get the
47:42
final objection this time it's from Liv
47:46
Morgan and she comes down the aisle and
47:49
she says this wedding has to stop I am
47:52
so sorry
47:53
this just cannot go on the love of my
47:56
life is right there I would not have
47:59
made it through this year if it was not
48:01
for our love I came to the w/e a lost
48:03
soul a wild child ending my teen years
48:06
just hoping that my dreams would come
48:09
true and I never knew that I could be
48:11
myself until we met and fell in love
48:13
with each other how could you do this to
48:15
me how could you do this to me and
48:19
Lashley's shocked and he says I have
48:22
never touched this one in my entire life
48:23
I don't know what she's talking about
48:25
and Liv says oh no I am NOT talking
48:28
about Bobby I'm talking about Lana now
48:32
the fans go crazy oh my god lesbians -
48:37
blonde LED they're out of their minds
48:39
she gets in her face starts screaming at
48:42
Lana you told me you love me fans are
48:44
going yes yes they're going crazy Lana's
48:47
in tears and then Lana
48:51
slaps Liv they both fall down and fight
48:55
and the crowd died they died a
49:02
death and they're rolling around on the
49:06
mat and everybody is over it all they
49:09
wanted was for the lesbians to be
49:11
lesbians as soon as a lesbian started
49:14
fighting they didn't care they're just
49:16
totally dead geeks run down they drag
49:20
off Liz and I swear to god this crowd
49:22
it's it's like they're in a crypt deadly
49:26
silent the efficient then continues the
49:30
wedding and he's about to pronounce them
49:32
man and wife when a rusev attempts to
49:35
come out of the cake he can't get out of
49:37
the cake it's like the Shockmaster in
49:40
Reverse finally he gets out of the cake
49:43
he begins to beat up Lashley after 20
49:47
minutes like the whole idea is it the
49:50
fans will go crazy for this and they
49:53
popped a little bit but dude that
49:56
lonna attacking live Morgan absolutely
50:00
killed this segment dead for these fans
50:02
they're just sitting there watching
50:04
there's this big brawl I can't figure
50:08
out why Lashley is interrupting the
50:10
wedding what he said all he wanted was
50:12
her to get wedding get married so we
50:14
wouldn't have to pay alimony I don't
50:16
know why I couldn't get out of the cake
50:17
right after they get married I have no
50:18
idea why I'm looking for logic in any of
50:20
this and finally he lays out Lashley
50:23
with a kick live tries to shovel on his
50:26
face into the cake it's a cake it's the
50:29
softest thing you can do your face
50:31
shoved into Lana's fighting this so hard
50:33
live is like shoot trying to push her
50:36
face into this cake because Alana's not
50:37
cooperating finally she gets her face in
50:39
the cake and then Lana slaps rusev one
50:42
time as a show goes off the air
50:43
this sucked ten minute overrun
50:48
absolute death I don't know I watched it
50:52
and it's just one of those things that I
50:54
watched and I thought you know what
50:55
somebody with a clue I shouldn't say
50:58
that because this is written in a way
51:02
it's it's written for Vince this was
51:06
something where if you would have done
51:07
this in any other company somebody could
51:10
have made this work somewhere else but
51:12
in double w/e this is what it had to be
51:14
it was whole
51:17
I mean it just sucked what do you want
51:20
me to say so that was the wedding I
51:22
actually that wasn't even the wedding
51:24
the wedding got interrupted so it's
51:26
possible because this happens then
51:28
they've already been married and they
51:29
told us about it on social media but I
51:31
haven't seen it on social media so I
51:32
don't know if they're married or not I'm
51:33
presuming right now that they're not
51:35
married but maybe they're heading to
51:36
Vegas right now to get married but one
51:38
way the other that's raw what a horrible
51:40
way to end the decade of the 2010s and
51:45
that's it what a way to end the final
51:48
podcast of Wrestling Observer radio for
51:51
the 2010s not my fault everybody it was
51:53
raw I wanted to review for you guys I
51:57
apologize but hey the good news is that
52:01
soon it will be the 2020s
52:05
and all we can do is hope that the 2020s
52:08
will be a big improvement over the 2010s
52:11
and hey Dave's not here but I want to
52:13
thank Dave very much I want to thank
52:15
everybody here at the website there's
52:17
too many people to name everybody here
52:20
at the web site I want to thank you so
52:21
much all of the subscribers very very
52:24
thankful for the 2010s I know I yell you
52:26
people sometimes I know I get mad at you
52:28
yell you on the board yell at you on the
52:30
Twitter but I do love all of you if you
52:32
were all here at my house I'd serve up
52:35
absinthe


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WOR: FINAL RAW OF THE 2010S HEADLINED BY LASHLEY AND LANA'S WEDDING
BY BRYAN ALVAREZ | @BRYANALVAREZ | DEC 31, 2019 1:31 AM
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Wrestling Observer Radio with Bryan Alvarez is back with a solo show tonight as Dave is either en route or has arrived in Japan for Tokyo Dome week. This is, in fact, the final podcast on this site of 2019, the entire decade of the 2010s, and we get to talk about the final Raw of the 2010s headlined by THE LASHLEY AND LANA WEDDING. This is for you people. A fun show as always so check it out~!

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Start: SkyTV ends relationship with WWE
3:41: Raw recap
36:25: The wedding


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BY GARRETT GONZALES | @ROHEBLIUS | DEC 22, 2019 10:13 PM
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Wrestling Observer Radio with Dave Meltzer and myself, guest co-host Garrett Gonzales, is back.

We talk about the main event at UFC Busan, some of the happenings at the Bellator shows from Hawaii, and the wrestling shows from the weekend. Dave also reviews Smackdown from Friday.

We then take listener questions about pro wrestling in 2020 and talk about all the major companies including discussions about AEW creative, NXT live, WWE ratings, international opportunities, free agents, and more.

Start: Kickboxing, UFC, NJPW thoughts
7:22: Biggest news story of the decade
13:35: Josh Barnett, what's being taped this week
19:26: SmackDown
37:00: SANADA
38:40: Tony Khan/NFL and AEW
44:54: Questions on Raw's ratings, WWE booking, rosters, NJPW US TV
55:45: Questions on potential free agents, intergender matches, NXT touring, UK scene in 2020, NXT international plans, Cena, indies
1:06:23: Questions on AEW changes, expansion plans, secondary titles
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Transcript


00:00
it's wrestling observer radio Sunday
00:03
evening December 22nd the last time you
00:07
and I are gonna do a show for the four
00:09
2019 for a couple weeks
00:12
well I'm headed out to - after Christmas
00:15
I'm headed out and then by time I get
00:17
back then you're in Japan so yeah I'm
00:19
gonna miss each other until 2020 yeah
00:22
we're gonna see each other until January
00:24
8th aww and NXT probably Wow Wow
00:28
Merry Christmas yeah yes that this
00:33
weekend was the last shows of the you
00:36
see for their calendar as well as belt
00:38
or belt or did two shows and then that
00:42
was really it as far as like the main
00:44
stuff but I know there was some
00:45
kickboxing going on and the Rico broom
00:48
fight which I still haven't seen but the
00:50
description of it looked incredible I
00:53
guess Badr Hari knocked if you Rico
00:55
Verhoeven down twice and then in the
00:57
third round he was throwing a spin kick
00:59
and injured himself so he lost but it
01:03
did I don't know the like the numbers
01:06
off the top of my head but it was a 53
01:08
share on television which is absolutely
01:10
enormous in in Holland and 31,000 paid
01:14
so it was you know the biggest kick
01:17
boxing match and God knows how long long
01:20
long time that I can I can recall
01:22
anything like at that level and I know
01:24
you're behind on watching stuff but any
01:26
anything that you did see from MMA this
01:29
weekend I mean only thing I saw it's the
01:30
Frankie Edgar fight which was which was
01:32
definitely something to see yeah
01:33
the crowd was fantastic and you know
01:37
Korean Zombie beat him handily looked
01:41
really good in the process I don't think
01:45
Frankie recovered from being hit like
01:48
the Frankie of old but that's gonna
01:49
happen when you're 38 years old yeah I
01:52
don't know I don't know if the move yeah
01:56
you know it's like his his thing's gonna
01:57
be to move to 135 but he's gonna be
01:59
facing faster guys than than that and
02:02
zombie was kind of too fast for him I
02:04
thought so I don't know if that's a good
02:06
move I mean on paper I mean we'll see
02:09
when he debuts but I was kind of worried
02:11
I thought
02:13
yeah zombie look great you know that I
02:17
love shows you know one of my favorite
02:19
commentators is Dan Hardy and he you
02:21
know he and I talked at length a couple
02:23
times about the philosophy of
02:25
commentating and I've actually told
02:28
several people in Pro Wrestling that
02:30
have started to commentate certain
02:32
things that is real you know from Dan
02:34
Hardy that's really helped their own
02:36
commentary you know as far as like being
02:39
an analyst you know and and yeah
02:42
I so I'm actually when I saw that he was
02:44
doing that show I'm looking forward to
02:46
watching the rest that watched that I
02:47
really want to watch the last New Japan
02:49
I've only watched well I watched um the
02:50
first night of the three and that was
02:52
really good
02:54
you know Romo taka she's back first
02:56
match back and first match back he
02:58
looked like top 10 in the world
03:00
immediately what are you thinking in 30
03:02
the first 45 seconds what do you think
03:04
about the idea of him getting some reps
03:06
in before I think it's great rest
03:09
Kingdom I know that there's a lot of
03:10
people who go like you know the first
03:12
match should be Russell Kingdom but and
03:15
and you know from if I was just doing it
03:17
pure business and it's funny because I
03:19
mean it's kind of funny in a way because
03:21
one of the reasons they held him off
03:22
this long was so the first match could
03:24
be the Tokyo Dome but then I think that
03:26
they all kind of thought you know what
03:28
it's like let's let's get him you know
03:33
get him a little bit of you know three
03:34
days of stuff and just kind of get some
03:37
of the rust off of him because I mean
03:39
your first match back you're at the
03:40
Tokyo Dome you're against will Osprey I
03:42
mean you know you want to get your
03:44
confidence a hundred percent back before
03:45
your you're doing that whole you know 20
03:47
minute match or however long they're
03:49
gonna go but you know after the tease is
03:51
in that tag it was will Osprey and
03:53
Robbie Eagles against her Omo and bushi
03:56
well the interesting thing is is the
03:59
finish was Robbie Eagles pinned her Omo
04:01
and in a sense you would go like Rome
04:04
was getting the title shot isn't that
04:06
like the wrong finish and and in a sense
04:09
you would say that but you know knew
04:11
Japan's got that tradition dating back
04:12
to the birth of the first new Japan show
04:14
where if you've been out for a long time
04:16
and you're rusty the guys that are in
04:19
sync should beat you so that's why they
04:22
did that and they didn't you know it's
04:23
better that will didn't and you know
04:26
what
04:27
said that title for a long time since
04:29
the summer I you know I mean but if if
04:33
they do have a room we win wouldn't
04:36
bother me at all that guy's so he's so
04:38
charismatic you should seen they had a
04:39
thing of them before the match of him
04:41
like at the laundromat he's the only guy
04:43
who could do a vignette in the
04:44
laundromat and come off like charismatic
04:46
with the two dolls he's unbelievable
04:50
yeah I mean he's III when that when I
04:54
watched the the tag match when it was
04:56
over was like man I'm I'm pretty psyched
04:58
for that match at the Tokyo Dome I'm
05:00
pretty psyched for um Tana Hoshi and
05:02
Chris Jericho - at the Tokyo Dome after
05:04
watching how good Tana ha she looked in
05:06
that tag I mean Tana ha she looked he
05:09
physically I guess partially is getting
05:11
ready for that this other body so they
05:13
didn't have an actual bodybuilding
05:15
contest but everybody got in what
05:17
happened was Tana ha she got everyone to
05:19
go into bodybuilding shape so there was
05:21
not like it's a winner but it's like
05:22
show and yo and forth for that's just so
05:26
I'm gonna be ready for Tokyo Dome
05:27
looking their best it was kind of like
05:28
Tana she's challenging everyone to look
05:30
at her best of the Tokyo Dome so we're
05:31
gonna have this bodybuilding thing on
05:33
the 20th and they had it and um you know
05:37
as far as like you know who looked you
05:38
know who I mean showing any she Mori
05:41
were clearly the best but Tana Hoshi you
05:45
know he's 42 and you know bad knees and
05:50
all he was in good shape I mean towhen
05:53
are he's no bodybuilder but but got in
05:55
great shape and then one of the was it
05:57
you mean uue Morra
05:58
was not a bodybuilder though but he got
06:01
in good shape and then you know try and
06:05
think of us was in there Taguchi who was
06:06
not in any kind of bodybuilding shape
06:08
whatsoever he was just doing calm he was
06:10
basically there to do complete comedy
06:13
and but yeah it was interesting to see
06:15
but Tana Hoshi like I said in in in his
06:18
match it was a I think was Cotto bushi
06:21
and Tana Hoshi against night dough and
06:23
Chinglish cog has a really good match
06:25
really fun like not off the charts but
06:27
it was you know like like them getting
06:29
ready for the Big Show and the idea of
06:32
autonomous to shingo takashi program in
06:34
2020 looked pretty damn good and and but
06:38
yet I think physically just the way he
06:40
moved
06:41
and his conditioning that Tana I looked
06:43
the best he's looked in a long long time
06:44
so that's it's a good thing for the
06:46
Jericho match and I know Jericho I know
06:48
Jericho is studying for this match
06:50
Jericho doesn't go to the Tokyo Dome
06:52
unprepared with you know mentally so you
06:55
don't mean they'll have ideas he's
06:56
watching a lot of New Japan world yes he
07:00
is I mean why that's what it's there for
07:03
he's watching he's watching um the best
07:06
of Tana Hoshi yeah I mean there's so
07:09
much so I know how do you narrow it down
07:11
right best of turn AHA she's like you
07:13
know for her batches I mean he could
07:15
just watch the Russell Kingdom stuff
07:17
from the last several years anything
07:20
yeah okay so I know that you did before
07:25
before we get to Smackdown so what we're
07:27
gonna do we'll talk about Smackdown
07:28
we'll talk about some of the news we'll
07:30
talk a little bit about what happened at
07:31
these Bellator shows and then we'll get
07:33
to the questions because you threw out
07:34
the question of you know say you said do
07:36
you want people to send some questions
07:37
for wrestling in the year 2020 well we
07:40
actually you know I mean the years are
07:42
over and I don't really want to dwell in
07:43
last year we can do that later
07:45
but I definitely want to think about the
07:47
future because it's very it's a very
07:49
pivotal year in wrestling 2019 and it's
07:51
funny so I got a question for you
07:52
because I was exercise this morning what
07:54
was the biggest news story of the decade
07:56
in pro wrestling oh my god I mean I
07:59
didn't give one I'm so bad about
08:01
thinking back about what happened in in
08:04
the past years I mean obviously the AAW
08:06
story is really big for this year yeah
08:08
it's it's one of them for sure
08:10
gosh because you really when you look
08:15
back at the changes in this decade W
08:18
Network is one the launch of it and
08:21
going away from the pay-per-view WB
08:23
network and North Korea and New Japan
08:25
world new Japan world was really big
08:27
because you know really New Japan didn't
08:29
happen nowhere near the following that
08:31
has now that changed everything
08:33
in the new Japan getting on on access
08:35
was big but I mean as far as you know
08:43
you have sea-fight pass yeah it's but I
08:48
mean the the rise of the Indies like the
08:50
PWG said you know just as an example not
08:53
like that wouldn't be the number one
08:54
story but you know I mean that's the
08:58
idea that the Indies came and then
09:01
double-double you eat countered with NXT
09:03
and you know that's that's real big WWE
09:07
completely changing their philosophy on
09:09
hiring I mean it used to be you know you
09:12
know I mean we're looking for models and
09:15
we're looking for big football player
09:17
wrestler guys but didn't you say that
09:19
was the recent roster for the the PC
09:21
folks so that the newest class did you
09:23
say the going back in time going back to
09:26
that a little bit well I mean the women
09:27
okay with the women they're definitely
09:30
looking for athletes they're not looking
09:32
for models I mean a lot you know a lot
09:33
of Division one track and people like
09:36
that that before it was like they almost
09:38
didn't want athletes I mean I think they
09:40
wanted pretty girls who were athletic
09:42
they knew the athletic was part of it
09:44
but but they weren't like recruiting
09:46
Division one track athletes they were
09:48
recruiting bikini models who maybe
09:50
played high school soccer or something
09:52
you know we're you know or we're a
09:54
little we were maybe two gymnastics you
09:55
know when they were kids or whatever you
09:57
know or or competed in bodybuilding
09:59
contests you know that that type of
10:00
stuff but they could get the one gymnast
10:03
from UCLA oh my god oh my god yeah no
10:08
well they got the the one I'm the
10:11
boyfriend by the way he was so funny I
10:14
was I saw a People magazine a couple
10:17
days ago bad week ago and there was like
10:20
three or four pro wrestling things in
10:24
the pages one of them was um Simone
10:27
Simone's
10:29
what's your Simone you know tell my
10:32
Rock's daughter no I'm cometh jemna
10:33
Simone bales by oh yeah yeah Stacy the
10:39
one who's a seer and Stacy Urban was in
10:41
there with Simone and there was like two
10:45
or three others and Luke Rockhold's got
10:47
a full page ad modelling what's what's
10:50
the Ralph Lauren Ralph Lauren so I'm
10:53
like looking every page it's like I know
10:55
this person this is someone from Pro
10:57
Wrestling Arion like in do you like
10:59
waiting in line at the grocery store or
11:00
something to get a haircut actually okay
11:03
yeah where I was getting a haircut and
11:05
yeah I was going through the people
11:07
Magus
11:08
there's um there was a couple of others
11:11
too you know those who's but it's like
11:13
there's a full-page ad of Luke Rockhold
11:14
there's Stacey urban and there's but
11:17
there was who else was in there it
11:20
wasn't I don't know yeah by the way I
11:25
was gonna tell you this you know like
11:26
yesterday we talked about the the DVR
11:29
stuff with with aw which is actually a
11:32
huge story that we've talked about so as
11:35
far as like what it means or what it
11:36
doesn't mean you know what did huge and
11:38
DVR numbers it's gonna break the poor
11:40
heart you know what tell me where I'm
11:41
going don't ya mm-hmm 90210 reboot I
11:45
found that out it was doing great and
11:48
but it still got canceled yeah it's it's
11:50
done to like all the all the cast
11:52
members have given up on possibility of
11:54
a getting picked up somewhere I thought
11:56
for sure that like when these streaming
11:57
services would pick it up I mean I
11:59
thought for sure it might be a little
12:00
too expensive for that though don't you
12:02
think
12:02
for the value of what you're getting it
12:05
might be a little expensive I see I
12:08
don't know what the budgets are for
12:09
these pretty services but it's like you
12:11
know Disney plus it's got so many
12:13
subscribers it's like the hottest thing
12:14
in the world
12:16
yeah and then you know Netflix is losing
12:19
because it losing subscribers to Disney
12:21
Plus so you know you really want to mid
12:24
both of those companies really want to
12:26
make moves they need to make moves yeah
12:28
and you know speaking of Netflix just
12:31
just as an aside Eddie Murphy hosted
12:34
Saturday Night Live last night which was
12:36
kind of a big deal he hadn't done it in
12:37
like 30-something years Wow and he at
12:43
the end of at the end of his his lead
12:45
segment Dave Chappelle Eddie Murphy and
12:48
Chris rocker on the stage and Netflix
12:52
has been chasing stand-up comedy so they
12:55
paid Dave Chappelle a lot of money they
12:56
paid Chris Rock a lot of money they they
12:59
just paid Eddie Murphy a ton of money to
13:01
do two movies and to do a stand-up which
13:05
he hasn't done stand-up since like 1987
13:07
or something and so they were making a
13:09
joke of saying like the three of them
13:11
are like half of Netflix's budget for
13:13
2000
13:15
I mean you know there there's money out
13:17
there so it's not like you know that
13:19
that and when I said too expensive I
13:21
just meant
13:21
or probably what they perceive as the
13:24
audience considering it did you know the
13:26
ratings that it did on Fox I guess you
13:28
know yeah alright so I know we mentioned
13:34
the UFC show you didn't watch any of the
13:36
rest of it but for Bellator I saw that
13:39
basically Barnett had to pull out of the
13:41
fight because he was in he must have got
13:42
got really sick with the flu I think
13:44
that's a tough dude to pull out of a
13:45
fight
13:46
oh I know I know he must have been bad
13:48
off there well the doctor wouldn't I
13:49
don't know that he pulled out I think
13:51
that the doctor may have waved him off
13:53
to seeing him because that's what I
13:55
heard was that the doctor would not
13:57
allow him to fight so and he was
13:59
apologetic and everything I mean that
14:01
sucks though going through all that
14:02
training and then getting sick but you
14:05
know when you do that training you know
14:06
people don't know this but when you do
14:07
all that training your immune system
14:10
does go way down and people at the end
14:12
it's not so exhausted all the time yeah
14:14
you know they are way they are way more
14:17
susceptible I mean a lot and also you
14:19
know I mean this doesn't matter for a
14:21
heavyweight but for the lighter weight
14:22
guys you're also cutting weight so that
14:24
makes you more susceptible to getting
14:25
sick also but Barnett you know he didn't
14:27
cut you know he was 250 and or more than
14:30
250 I think and then Ronnie marks or
14:33
honey marks actually his opponent was
14:35
like a 205 pounder and he was 215 he
14:39
looks so out of shape well he said that
14:41
that happened to him earlier this year
14:43
to where he had to pull out of a fight
14:44
because he was ill yeah and he was just
14:46
you know he was like ah you know Barnett
14:48
stuff he's not he's not she's just sick
14:50
and they're I think they're gonna try to
14:51
redo it generally yeah in a month so
14:54
yeah yeah yeah the Germans were at the
14:55
LA Show which is the one with them Cris
14:56
cyborg and Julia bud and what's the
15:00
other one the big one I'm trying to
15:05
remember the there's a the tournament
15:07
match is that pitbull maybe I don't
15:10
remember theirs but they've definitely
15:11
tournament AJ McKee when his tournament
15:14
match in Hawaii and then lamellae
15:16
McFarland one retained over Kate Jackson
15:19
which I haven't seen but I will be what
15:21
I want to watch that too I didn't get a
15:23
chance to watch her last night there was
15:24
so much stuff going on so much stuff
15:26
when I went to why I went to see Star
15:29
Wars so tada for the second time cuz I
15:30
saw it on Thursday night but I went
15:33
twice so my kids are we're down
15:34
Wow and so we went and my girlfriend
15:37
hadn't seen it yet and she kind of
15:39
watched all the movies again to gear up
15:40
for it so we went again but then the
15:43
49ers played the Rams on a NFL Network
15:47
right a Saturday night game and then I
15:50
was enchanted Clara
15:51
it was insane Clara yeah because I was
15:53
expecting like to hit like major traffic
15:55
but I managed to avoid the traffic and
15:57
then like I said then then Eddie Murphy
15:59
hosted Saturday Night Live so yes it's a
16:00
pretty big TV night for me and I you
16:03
know that's why I didn't get to watch
16:04
any of the Bellator stuff yeah I went
16:06
out with my I went out with my kids and
16:09
the very first question I told you this
16:12
frickin very first question one of their
16:14
friends is like young bucks got off
16:20
Twitter it's like I've all the things
16:24
you know and we never yeah I don't say
16:26
we never talked wrestling but it's very
16:27
rare but but they I will say that like
16:30
those guys were the ones you know the
16:32
other one was was packed Laprade is
16:34
because pat about a month ago I just
16:38
emailed me and goes like you know what
16:39
kind of TV our numbers of these shows
16:40
doing and I go I have no idea
16:42
mm-hmm you know let me check so I
16:45
checked and that like opened up
16:46
everything and then it was just kind of
16:47
like you know I keep reminding myself
16:50
that that hit Cody and his friends or it
16:52
and you know and it's like you know they
16:55
DVR aw and that's the audience and it's
16:57
like you know they don't watch live I
16:59
mean I remember the very first week it
17:01
was like they were all talking about any
17:02
but I knew that they were gonna watch
17:04
weekly but you know they and they don't
17:06
watch every single episode even on DVR
17:08
but there's an awareness you know and
17:10
they're but well that DVR number is
17:11
gonna be way up on New Year's cuz who's
17:13
gonna watch that did not not as many
17:15
people gonna watch that show alive I
17:16
don't think mm well there's football
17:19
football's crazy and just that's
17:21
literally all the parties for the last
17:23
day for you gotta go back to work yeah
17:25
most important the night before though
17:27
true but my family gets together on New
17:31
Year's Day yeah so I would imagine
17:33
there's a lot but yeah I think the
17:34
Emily's doing that I think the DVR
17:36
number
17:37
I think the DVR number from Wednesday
17:38
it's gonna be gigantic for aw I'm sure
17:40
of it and the DVR number for the first
17:43
will be really will probably be really
17:44
really big also do you know what they're
17:47
doing
17:47
what
17:47
what's NX T's scheduled for cuz they're
17:50
not going dark right no annex T's gonna
17:53
tape their show on in Detroit on the
17:58
Friday before so it's coming Friday
18:00
they'll be taping and then they're also
18:02
going to be doing cuttings with the
18:03
awards so when we went to San Jose show
18:06
are they gonna use any of that I don't
18:08
think so I asked and nobody's given me a
18:09
yes or no
18:11
so it's possible yet because they were
18:13
taping and they were taping matches you
18:16
know with like genuine you know a
18:17
legitimate you know camera crew mm-hmm
18:20
so it's it's possible they might be you
18:22
know in San Jose like if they're gonna
18:23
tape San Jose would be where you would
18:24
tape because it's you know it's a
18:26
nice-size building and historically you
18:28
know it's a great market for for NXT
18:31
yeah I mean if they were I think it
18:33
would have probably been a good idea to
18:34
announce it though people might have saw
18:36
that as a little bit more yeah more
18:38
reason to go important yeah but I don't
18:41
think that they wanted to you know and
18:44
now III you know it's like it's
18:45
announcing a taping for a live show you
18:49
know I mean that's not live so there's
18:51
there's that like like it Des Moines you
18:53
know they did announce they were taping
18:54
two shows in Des Moines they just did
18:56
you imagine yeah five five nine you're
18:58
out there going like okay I'm gonna be
18:59
here for three hours and then five and a
19:02
half hours I was a long left can you
19:05
Monday show is the the second taping and
19:09
you we didn't even watch they were so
19:12
dead the first taping and I heard the
19:14
second taping was even more dead than
19:15
the first that's gonna be tough so III
19:18
the one thing that they can do though
19:20
being in a tape shows they can sound
19:21
sweetened yeah so it may not come across
19:23
so bad all right what about some
19:25
academic Smackdown I mean I like
19:28
Smackdown it was it was all right they
19:31
it opened to Daniel Bryan if you think
19:34
you've seen him right but the old school
19:36
the old look 2005 daniel bryan danielson
19:39
yeah so he came out and said that his
19:43
daughter saw him for the first time and
19:46
started crying he this stuck with the
19:48
the dot you know that's you know what I
19:51
mean it's like I know the average
19:53
audience is like 50 now right for
19:56
Smackdown so
19:59
you know that it's like but I keep
20:02
thinking like when I was a kid they did
20:05
very few like family oriented angles I
20:09
mean like you know they'd never fight
20:12
for their wife's on or or talk about
20:13
their kids if anything they tried to
20:15
pretend they were all single yeah you
20:17
know for marketing reasons I mean I
20:18
remember when in 85 ish right and there
20:25
was an interview with Ricky Steamboat
20:27
and this is when he was with WWWF and
20:31
they go Ricky you know are you single
20:34
and it's like the most awkward thing
20:36
because you know he was married to
20:37
Bonnie and and you know and Bonnie is
20:41
probably if she sees it he says I'm
20:43
single
20:44
it's probably going what did you just
20:46
say but he has to say what he has to say
20:48
because that's the rule yeah so it was
20:50
the most awkward yes I'm single I've
20:52
ever seen in my life so yeah that's yeah
21:00
but but they never did that and then the
21:01
one speaking of it which I just
21:03
steamboat was in 89 when they played up
21:06
Ricky Steamboat family man and all that
21:08
and I mean I would go to the matches and
21:10
this great Ricky Steamboat with having
21:12
these five star matches and everybody
21:14
would boo him because they were all guys
21:16
and they all thought Ric Flair was the
21:18
coolest they knew Rick everyone knew
21:20
Rick was married but they just figured
21:21
yeah he's not a family yeah and and you
21:24
know I mean people forget about that
21:26
Flair steamboat that that most of the
21:28
crowd was behind Flair but I mean the
21:30
matches were so good that didn't matter
21:32
who they were behind but so yeah they're
21:35
doing that and then here it's like
21:36
everything's about you know it's all
21:38
being booked by older guys and granted
21:40
the audience is older but it's all about
21:42
kids and relationships and you know
21:45
women you know like the the hot women
21:48
that just like use guys and that are
21:50
completely self-centered the whole the
21:52
whole lotta thing is such a caricature
21:55
of probably you know the whatever you
21:58
know of like all these women I say that
22:00
and and yet when I say that people go
22:02
out I don't know anyone like that hey I
22:04
always feel like I know everyone like
22:06
isn't that the weirdest thing I know
22:08
people like that
22:09
exactly you know not exactly glacier or
22:11
not to that degree
22:13
you know not to that exaggerated degree
22:14
but it's like it's an exaggerated
22:16
version of show of reality sure yeah so
22:18
anyway Daniel Bryan's out his daughter
22:22
doesn't recognize him she's crying
22:25
miss comes out MS said that Bray Wyatt
22:29
violated my the sanctity of my family
22:32
and mrs. furious and it's like dude you
22:36
just finally he's mad he was mad before
22:38
but it's like it's he's mad before this
22:41
happens he gets destroyed in that match
22:43
and now Miz is out there and he's mad
22:45
again that's like dude it's like you
22:48
should hit him with the mallet you got
22:49
beat you were like the frickin
22:52
transition job guy to set up Daniel
22:54
Bryan the only thing I saw was his promo
22:56
at TLC and I thought it was awful and
23:00
he's a great promo but yeah I know what
23:02
you mean yeah he was he's Jewish too
23:04
gimmicky for the thing just there was
23:07
the any of the passion and the intensity
23:09
was all like he was reading lines off a
23:12
teleprompter well he was you know for
23:14
the most part so you know it ends up
23:18
where Corbin is out and Corbin is just
23:24
basically you know you know just you
23:30
know Corbin is just making fun of the
23:31
kids you know who said that
23:35
Daniel Bryan's daughter was scared
23:37
because daddy looks like baby Yoda and
23:38
he delivered on Linus so you know I mean
23:41
it's like one of those double W lines we
23:42
just go oh god somebody who wants to we
23:45
got to get a Star Wars line in this in
23:47
this promo what do we say and it just
23:49
like whatever and then yeah
23:54
Corbin said that Daniel Bryan's a
23:56
failure and Daniel Bryan got in his face
23:58
and then Dolph Ziggler attacked both of
24:00
them and they kind of left him laying
24:02
you superkicked Miz end of days I get on
24:04
Bryan sets up the tag match
24:07
heavy-machinery out and Mandy Rose is
24:11
the one chosen
24:12
I'm Smackdown I guess everyone has to
24:14
give Secret Santa gifts right so she
24:16
gives Otis a ham and it's Mandy Rose and
24:21
he's all excited because it's Mandy Rose
24:22
right
24:24
so as an idiot he brings the ham to
24:26
ringside you know what's happening right
24:29
so it's some heavy machinery against the
24:31
revival and it's a Miracle on 34th
24:33
Street fight and I mean it's you know
24:36
it's a good match
24:38
rivals always good and and you know when
24:41
Otis makes his comeback the place goes
24:43
nuts you know he's got all that charisma
24:45
and Tuckers a good worker he just
24:47
doesn't have that charisma and Otis does
24:51
like cool stuff always slam on both guys
24:53
at the same time and they do the trash
24:56
compactor on Dawson we'll be seeing a
24:59
lot of that I think and they lose and
25:01
then backstage you know so anyway the
25:06
the ham ends up getting destroyed and
25:09
thrown on the ground and who would
25:13
Dawson through the hammer and threw it
25:16
on the ground so Otis is backstage and
25:18
there's Mandy and he's all sad because
25:20
they destroyed the gift and I'm so sorry
25:24
I should have brought the ham shouldn't
25:26
brought the ham out out in front of the
25:27
crowd and she said it's okay and hugs
25:31
him so he's got that look on his face
25:33
cuz he's hug and then he leaves and
25:36
she's got you know he just wrestled so
25:37
she's got this nice dress on and or nice
25:40
top not even he was a dress but anyway
25:42
she's all all the sweat stains right so
25:45
she acts like all repulsed it's like you
25:47
just hugged a 350 pound guy who had a
25:49
wrestling match and now you're mad
25:50
because you got frickin sweat stains on
25:52
your what were you thinking you know so
25:54
anyway that was that then the revival
25:56
does a promo and yeah they they are they
26:03
are wrestlers not sports entertainers
26:05
and then Elias comes out and wrote a
26:09
song and it's like it's best if you guys
26:13
just went away
26:14
and you know that that so that it was
26:20
the start of this the new revival
26:22
gimmick which is you know more more
26:27
comedy oriented fabulous ones
26:30
so anyway wonderful but I mean you know
26:33
everyone knows what it's about the one
26:35
thing is is
26:36
do you think might backfire I cuz I I
26:38
think it's gonna backfire it always
26:41
backfires because you know obviously
26:43
trying to bury them to make them look
26:44
like clowns before they leave and I
26:47
think that the fanbase whenever they do
26:49
that the fan base completely sees
26:50
through it and it only makes them you
26:53
know the best thing to do is is take
26:55
them off television if you make them
26:57
lose every week people are gonna die you
26:59
know there's you know they're gonna be
27:01
mad you turn them into clowns they're
27:03
gonna be even madder not matter but
27:05
they're gonna see right through it and
27:06
just makes the I think it makes the it
27:08
makes the company look bad only it makes
27:09
those guys look bad
27:11
listen if they're gonna leave they're
27:13
turning down a lot of money to leave we
27:17
don't know that but I mean well but the
27:19
mope the they're they're trying to keep
27:21
everybody right yeah well you know what
27:24
it's probably seven hundred each you
27:27
know maybe more but but yeah maybe more
27:29
but yeah yeah some people you know yeah
27:35
it's a lot of money I don't know what
27:37
the offer would be on the other side but
27:39
you know it let's look on the other the
27:42
other way they got I know Dawson
27:49
definitely his family I don't know about
27:52
Wilder I don't know but you get so you
27:56
got a family and you go to a company and
27:58
I'll just say you know the offer is not
28:01
as big but you're offered but number one
28:04
your peace of mind is better you're
28:07
gonna get to do what you want you need
28:09
to get the matches that you want and
28:11
with you know in in higher level
28:14
positions with really good tag teams and
28:16
it's one day a week which is you know at
28:19
their level that extends your career on
28:22
the other end if you're doing you know
28:24
let's say you're gonna do you end up you
28:26
know 35 matches a year maybe 40 whatever
28:30
instead of you know 150 you know I mean
28:34
you know there's there's there's there's
28:37
there's different pluses of doing the
28:38
lighter schedule I mean for the young
28:40
guys it's not as good because you're not
28:42
getting the reps that you need these
28:44
guys don't need reps these guys are
28:45
already there so you know
28:48
yeah and from a longevity perspective
28:51
you're probably lengthening your
28:52
lengthening your career so you're having
28:54
more years and let's just say let's take
28:57
double w/e would burn them out in let's
29:00
say five years late 30s whatever okay
29:02
they're there they're beat up and and
29:05
everything these guys you know they
29:07
could probably get eight or nine years
29:08
and more time with their kids and more
29:14
years at the end you know feeling a lot
29:16
better although you're obviously gonna
29:18
have to work really hard in those
29:18
matches because the standards gonna be
29:20
much higher you know I mean there's
29:22
there's pluses and minuses but you know
29:25
the happiness thing is look if I'm gonna
29:29
make a half a million dollars a year
29:31
either way I'd rather be really really
29:33
really happy at work then making half a
29:36
million dollars a year and being really
29:37
miserable when I can order seven hundred
29:39
thousand a year and being really
29:40
miserable and you know my you know more
29:43
free time with my family there's I mean
29:46
III don't know you know there's the
29:50
wrestling business though and I'm not
29:52
saying I'm just generalizing like I know
29:55
that there's a lot of guy lot of
29:57
wrestlers who are really really big time
29:59
family guys but that doesn't seem
30:01
necessarily like the kind of work you
30:03
would get into if your goal was to just
30:05
be a family person not at all you're
30:09
gone so much you're going yeah and
30:11
that's the nature of the beast but you
30:13
know a lot you know when you're in your
30:15
20s being gone a lot is really cool but
30:19
if you got kids you know it changes your
30:22
mentality and but the happiness is still
30:26
the happiness you know I mean there's a
30:27
lot of guys in double-double you you
30:28
were miserable I mean look when aw
30:30
started everybody you know everybody but
30:33
Roman reigns practically you know called
30:35
looking for work but they didn't want
30:36
everybody some of those people are quite
30:39
bitter and you know these days I'm in
30:42
another way but that's actually a great
30:44
question for for Lance because he was
30:47
able to - I guess he left early enough
30:50
to where he was able to see his kids
30:52
grow up and now that they're grown up he
30:55
feels like he has the time to kind of go
30:56
back right because his kids are grown up
30:58
so he can go back on the road
31:00
he's not taking bumps yeah I mean he's
31:02
traveling he's around a business that he
31:04
really knows and likes you know to be
31:08
around I mean cuz the reason he got out
31:11
was to preserve his body he was starting
31:13
to you know he was he was getting he was
31:15
get injuries or here to probably still
31:17
wrestled for several more years and I
31:19
mean he still wrestled from time to time
31:20
for years and years so yeah yeah I mean
31:24
I would think that you know with but
31:26
with Lance I mean every you know who
31:29
knows I mean at that stage he may wanted
31:31
to do a aw because at that stage you
31:34
know your body working one day a week
31:35
and then you're you know if you're if
31:38
you're doing one show a week sometimes
31:42
two and it almost never - we're doing
31:44
like what let's say you're doing one
31:45
show a week it's like you're really not
31:49
missing out on a lot with your kids now
31:51
if you're out there with with four shows
31:52
a week and you got to travel the day
31:54
before and you got to travel the day
31:55
after that six days you're missing out
31:57
on a lot with your kids so you know it's
32:01
you know there's you know a lot of guys
32:04
who would be not necessarily wanting to
32:07
be in the business at that stage aw
32:09
maybe a way for them to stay in the
32:10
business and maintain a family you know
32:14
so that's there's a good thing there -
32:15
mm-hmm anyway we could get back to this
32:17
thing the what happened so the revival
32:22
to the promo then braun strowman's in
32:25
the back Sami Zayn had to give him a
32:27
gift but he had no idea what to give him
32:30
so he asked strowman and what kind of a
32:32
gift would he like and strummin wanted
32:33
Intercontinental title shot so they're
32:34
going back in that direction that they
32:36
were gonna do in the last pay-per-view
32:37
but strowman was injured and then it
32:41
ends up worst Romans getting mad at Sami
32:43
Zayn and sorrowing Nakamura come in and
32:47
strowman wants Intercontinental title
32:49
match as a gift tonight and Sami Zayn
32:51
thinks that's a great idea but he can't
32:53
do it because Nakamura and sis are gonna
32:57
match with a new day so anyway that's
32:59
what they said carmella beat Sonja
33:01
Deville with a cone of silence in a
33:03
minute 37 just did it you know fine
33:06
Sheamus same interviews been doing new
33:09
day beat Nakamura and Cesaro you know
33:12
real good
33:13
real good match and then at the end they
33:18
Nakamura Cesaro and Sami Zayn are beaten
33:20
up new day and braun strowman makes the
33:23
save and you know basically screams
33:26
power slam nakamura but Sami Zayn saves
33:28
Nakamura and that's that then Miz and
33:31
Daniel Bryan are talking and Miz thanks
33:35
Daniel Bryan because Bray Wyatt was
33:38
about to smash his head with a mallet
33:39
and then Daniel Bryan goes why didn't do
33:42
that for you I did it for me and then
33:45
they have this argument over who hates
33:46
who more I hate you more
33:48
no I hate you more I hate you more you
33:50
know like one of those childish things
33:52
so they both hate each other of course
33:54
and so yeah then is then they end up
34:00
being a tag team and there you go then
34:04
Bayley beat Dana Brooke with the
34:06
headlock DDT not bad they're beaten up
34:10
Dana Brooke after Lacey Evans makes the
34:12
save
34:13
Lacey Evans challenges Sasha banks to a
34:16
singles match so late see Evans I never
34:18
heard this Lacey Evans daughter and her
34:21
husband are at ringside and they point
34:23
them out which is also very interesting
34:24
to show her husband but the daughter so
34:28
this daughter is it's one of two things
34:31
and one is really uncomfortable on the
34:33
other is great but the daughter's there
34:36
and right in front of the daughter Sasha
34:38
banks is just beating on her at ringside
34:40
for the daughter and the daughter is
34:42
ready to hop the rail she makes these
34:43
frickin like you know just the worst
34:50
phases just you know how old is she the
34:53
daughter I'm gonna say 8 9 in that range
34:59
you know you know I haven't to be off by
35:02
a year too I mean she she's younger than
35:04
mine she looked younger than my daughter
35:05
but I know you know when I friends late
35:11
year old daughter she probably look the
35:12
same or a year older than that so yeah
35:14
it's 89 in that range but yeah she was
35:17
just furious and I was thinking like
35:19
just hopefully like she knows that this
35:22
is just work and they told her just make
35:24
mean faces because she was great
35:27
but if they didn't it's like that kind
35:28
of sucks yeah so anyway they do a double
35:30
count-out fans hate the finish then we
35:34
got Corbin and Ziggler against Daniel
35:37
Bryan and the Miz and that's fine
35:41
Miz get puts the figure-four on Ziggler
35:43
Daniel Bryan does the need when you need
35:46
a Corbin Ziggler taps out and they
35:49
announce next week it's Miz Corbin and
35:52
Bryan three-way winner gets Bray Wyatt
35:55
which will be at Rumble and they're all
35:59
in the ring those three and Bray Wyatt
36:01
or the fiend the themed yeah so um
36:06
they're all they're all in the ring and
36:09
then you get the lightning and Bray
36:12
Wyatt's laughing at them or the fiend is
36:14
laughing at them and so there you go so
36:16
I've got a presume Daniel Bryan's gonna
36:18
win this match yeah you know I mean is
36:20
you know out Corbin that doesn't make
36:22
sense
36:23
and Miz just got squashed way too bad to
36:26
do rematch so so it's got to be although
36:28
Daniel Bryan did get squashed too in his
36:30
first match with him
36:31
yeah I mean if it's if they're gonna do
36:33
the red lighting and everything I would
36:35
try to lose that match on purpose
36:37
I know really over the ratings for
36:42
Smackdown it was up it was up from last
36:44
week
36:45
you know the network's had a lot of
36:46
reruns so the competition wasn't nearly
36:48
as tough it was up like about 2.4
36:50
million roughly I mean the real number
36:53
comes out on Monday but you know
36:55
everything's you know so yeah roughly
36:57
2.4 million and then I think you had an
37:00
update on Sanada in the in the news
37:02
update today but it doesn't look look
37:04
like there was any update on him I asked
37:07
around and I haven't heard anything
37:08
other than people tell me if it was that
37:11
bad we would know so I mean they haven't
37:15
changed the match yet so not in Zach so
37:18
I hope that that match doesn't change
37:20
Zach did some great great promo work
37:22
with Sanada Sanada um came in with God
37:26
was a purple or pink pants I got a watch
37:29
again I got to watch the press
37:30
conference
37:31
I probably never will but I've you know
37:33
Sanada came in with these crazy pants
37:35
and Zach just was making fun of his
37:36
pants you know I mean the one thing with
37:38
Sanada is and
37:39
no you were in San Francisco remember
37:42
that Sanada when he walks around he
37:45
looks like a frickin stone oh yeah I
37:46
mean there's room in the public like I
37:49
saw pictures of him in New York for that
37:51
show and people taking pictures of him
37:53
and he looks like you know he's in all
37:56
kinds of crazy suits and the hair and
37:57
the sunglasses and everything Dallas -
38:00
yeah yeah I mean the one thing like oh
38:02
and I don't say this about all the new
38:04
Japan guys when you see them in person
38:06
like it at like a contract signing press
38:10
conference whatever like they you know
38:12
it's not like they're all super dressed
38:14
well they all have their own style
38:16
they're very stylish and but you look at
38:19
him you go like this guy's a rock star
38:22
or this guy somebody important which is
38:24
a real big thing I think a lot of
38:25
American wrestlers really should learn
38:28
from from the way those New Japan guys
38:29
carry themselves all right so I think we
38:32
can we can dig into the questions unless
38:35
there was anything else that you want to
38:36
bring up no no no no some stuff will
38:38
probably come up in the questions too so
38:40
this was actually tweeted at the both of
38:42
us yesterday right as we were doing the
38:45
show with Pat and it just didn't come up
38:47
so I couldn't ask it but from my buddy
38:51
Mike Gilbert on Twitter he tweeted out
38:53
the it was a tweet by a football
38:57
reporter Albert Breer a connected guy
39:00
and he said he was talking about the
39:03
Jaguar stuff which was you know nuts
39:06
with the way Tom Coughlin left and and
39:08
and how they had to fire him and they
39:10
got sued by the Players Association
39:11
everything they got like like Tom
39:14
Coughlin was on finding guys ridiculous
39:16
amounts of money for like her in her
39:17
stuff that wasn't violent
39:19
that wasn't mandatory did you see
39:21
there's factual story it was actually
39:22
read the story of like a guy would miss
39:24
like a what like a martial arts workout
39:28
or something and get fined like you know
39:30
like $30,000 or something they were guys
39:32
being fighting this like the fines were
39:34
ridiculous so they went to the you know
39:36
the NFL Players Association and and
39:39
close association ruled against them but
39:41
um was fine what is all the fine money
39:43
go I don't know I I heard we'll get to
39:47
this in a second but I heard a story you
39:50
remember MBA Hall of Fame coach Don
39:53
Nelson oh yeah he coached the Warriors
39:55
like in a couple of different times and
39:57
in one of the years he was finding guys
40:00
for a lot of things but cowboy
40:02
similarly yeah cowboy Bill Watts when he
40:04
was running mid-south used to find guys
40:06
like you're a minute late I remember um
40:08
what was it like like you know there'd
40:11
be a traffic jam or to be an accident
40:13
you'd arrive late and it's like not my
40:15
fault you're fine I mean he would find
40:16
people for like everything everything in
40:20
the world yeah I remember when Murdoch
40:23
got fired he's sitting there at the bar
40:24
with cowboy and cowboys reading the
40:28
Bible and her duck goes you know for guy
40:33
reading the Bible you don't really like
40:36
the Ten Commandments do you and he goes
40:38
what do you mean by that and he goes
40:40
thou shalt not steal that was the end of
40:43
Murdoch's run so the story goes that
40:46
Nelson's finding guys finding guys
40:48
finding guys and the players are like
40:50
well where's the money going yeah
40:52
they're like what what's happening with
40:55
the money and so no one knew and I think
40:58
someone close to the organization told X
41:01
I heard this on a podcast told one of
41:02
the reporters like no I'm just pocketing
41:05
it really oh my god Wow
41:10
that that was the assumption I mean they
41:11
didn't know a hundred percent of it the
41:13
assumption was he's nickel and diming
41:15
all of you know these millionaire
41:16
players so it's not like some of them
41:18
may not have been making a lot of money
41:19
but you know that they could afford it
41:21
yeah and he could afford it too though
41:23
he was making a ton of money and be a
41:24
coach now yeah or even then okay so back
41:27
to the Tony Kahn thing so Albert Brewer
41:28
says one of the things that he was gonna
41:30
add to his Jaguar story is that Tony
41:32
Kahn becomes a name to watch as they
41:35
plan for the future those in NFL circles
41:38
expect the SVP of football technology
41:41
and analytics as well as being the
41:43
owner's son to have an increased role
41:45
going forward which the question sent to
41:48
us was how does that affect aw look you
41:51
know it's funny um I don't know how he
41:55
does the the forum the Jaguars and AW
41:58
all at the same time I mean in the same
42:01
week I mean they're all playing right
42:03
now I mean the Jaguars have games then
42:06
he goes to England
42:07
then he goes to wherever the aw thing is
42:09
and it's like and he doesn't look like
42:12
he's exhausted or nothing you know when
42:14
I see pictures of him and you don't
42:16
stunners what he's doing stunners I
42:18
don't know I talked I talked to him I
42:20
you know I look I would know having
42:22
dealt with people who were overworked
42:25
and wrestlers and everything like that
42:26
for my entire life he you know when I
42:29
talked to him he is never tired I mean
42:31
some similars built that way he's never
42:33
not alert you know I mean even Vince I
42:37
mean I'm her Vince in the XFL it's like
42:39
he you know Vince not I mean Vince is
42:42
usually not tired don't get me wrong but
42:44
XFL season Vince it was a big difference
42:48
you know I mean and that's one of the
42:50
reasons I think that you know I mean if
42:52
you remember right after the XFL that's
42:54
when double-double you have to start
42:55
going down because Vince
42:57
I just think was overworked at the time
42:59
and now we got another one in now he's
43:01
74 years old so I that's actually so
43:03
that's actually quite worrisome for me
43:05
unless he just walked walks away from
43:07
the wrestling and I just don't I just
43:09
don't know I mean because X I felt
43:10
starting February we're not far away now
43:12
he can't walk away from the wrestling I
43:14
don't you can there's I mean there's a
43:16
chance that this thing lasts a year just
43:18
like last time like you mean not saying
43:20
if that's gonna happen but no chance
43:22
he's got enough money in there for three
43:24
I think he's gonna go three and then
43:28
we'll see cuz he's not gonna he's not
43:30
gonna well I mean if it totally totally
43:32
tanks maybe one and a half but it's
43:38
gonna take a lot it's gonna take a lot
43:40
for him to throw in the toy mean it's a
43:42
good thing that he does have the money
43:44
because we saw what happened with
43:45
Charlie Eversole and yeah but that was
43:47
all smoke and mirrors yeah yeah people
43:49
look at like the Charlie Eversole thing
43:50
ago it's gonna happen to Vince and I
43:52
mean as far as the the the ratings of
43:55
the games and the you know the
43:57
attendance and things it may be quite
43:59
similar because I don't think that the
44:01
name Vince McMahon in the name XFL is
44:02
gonna change the dynamic and the AAF
44:06
probably had a higher quality of players
44:07
so it's gonna be I think that that that
44:11
bad aspects would be similar but you
44:13
know Charlie ever so never started their
44:15
season yeah you know and then he went to
44:17
you know he went to Vince you know hey
44:18
let's merge you
44:20
and Vince is just like you know you know
44:22
and it might have been the best thing
44:24
for Vince to do that but but he he had
44:27
to you know he wants to go on his own
44:28
yeah he has to go on his own it's Vince
44:30
but yeah I mean as far as Tony and I
44:32
don't know how you do all that stuff
44:34
I mean I don't I don't know how you do
44:36
it I couldn't do it I couldn't do those
44:37
three jobs at the same time I couldn't
44:40
even even doing one well I could
44:41
probably do one of them but not all
44:43
three not - no way - all right let's
44:47
let's get some of these questions are
44:49
there any real consequences for Debbie w
44:53
if raw ratings continue to decline at
44:56
the same rate it did this past year and
44:58
if that happens they could be routinely
45:01
setting record lows throughout 2020
45:04
listen I think that if things hadn't
45:07
have changed a couple months ago that we
45:10
would be under 2 million several times
45:13
this fall and but no I
45:18
if USA Network was the USA network of
45:20
years ago there would be trouble because
45:23
you know it wasn't that many years ago I
45:25
remember when the last round of
45:28
negotiations so what was that that was
45:29
um three years ago before you know it
45:32
was about five now or four or five years
45:34
but that round of negotiations where
45:36
they expected double to be expected to
45:38
get like what is like NASCAR money and
45:42
they ended up getting like way less and
45:43
the stock plummeted the exact opposite
45:46
of this round of negotiations because
45:47
they expected they you know TBS and TNT
45:50
is gonna want us they had no interest
45:53
yes pians gonna want us no interest so
45:56
all of a sudden it's like wow it's USA
45:58
or nothing and then USA was like we can
46:01
lose you know if we lose double w/e this
46:03
Smackdown wasn't on them yet there's
46:05
only raw we're still number one by oh by
46:07
a lot we will still be number one
46:09
without double w/e and all they cared
46:11
about was being number one so you know
46:13
holdout in us we don't care but now you
46:17
know even the rings were way way WAY
46:18
lower USA is they're like number they
46:21
were number nine and take away double W
46:23
either prob about like number or you
46:24
know probably 12 13 14 and they're gonna
46:27
drop because I'd lost smackdown because
46:29
obviously um NXT is I'm doing close to
46:32
what smackdowns doing and
46:33
ra's going down as well but they need
46:36
WWE I mean that's one of the reasons why
46:38
there's no pressure on NXT I mean these
46:41
Enix when wrestling does the NXT with
46:46
these know if NXT did these numbers if
46:48
they were started that's like five years
46:50
ago and they added NXT and they did
46:53
these numbers they would be canceled
46:55
just like tuff enuf yeah which did the
46:58
austin season of tough enough did a
47:00
million-five but that's when the USA was
47:01
had all these shows doing two and three
47:03
million million five for a wrestling
47:05
show that doesn't cut it you're gone
47:06
million five now they'd be doing like
47:09
spin-offs of tough enough and steep you
47:12
know Steve Austin's son would have a
47:13
show he'd be all over that Network all
47:20
right
47:20
if WWE was booked as well as NXT how do
47:26
you think that would affect both their
47:27
business and their competition it's hard
47:32
to say because look at NXT NXT their
47:38
numbers aren't you know they annexed
47:41
East booked exactly like NXT and it's
47:44
not like their shows are doing great
47:47
business so you know their house shows
47:50
numbers are not good I mean they're
47:52
worse than they were before they had TV
47:53
which is um you know another big story
47:55
you know what part of the AAW story and
47:58
you know I mean they're they're TV
48:01
numbers I mean I don't say they're bad
48:03
but you know I mean they're you know
48:06
essentially going you know the head to
48:07
head with aw and thereby you know and
48:09
without aw they'd probably a little bit
48:10
higher but you know there's no
48:13
guarantees and aid you know annexed he's
48:17
got really good wrestlers to which I
48:19
mean Ross got some but I don't know I
48:22
mean it wouldn't make a difference
48:23
probably would help a little bit but um
48:26
you know market difference you know the
48:28
big problem isn't I mean the booking the
48:32
booking is an issue but to me the big
48:34
problem is just the amount of time it
48:37
takes to consume this stuff it's what we
48:39
just talked doubt me started the show
48:40
look at all these things we want to
48:42
watch right I want to see the bottle
48:44
hari fight you know what am I
48:46
watch that I want to see today's new
48:47
yesterday's New Japan show you know it's
48:50
like there's not enough time in the day
48:51
there's so much product out there and
48:53
and you'll never catch up because when
48:56
you say you want to catch up then
48:57
there's gonna be something tomorrow yeah
48:59
yeah no you can't catch up you just let
49:02
it go
49:02
there's look I mean I've been trying to
49:04
watch the Austen interviews with
49:06
Undertaker and Bill Goldberg I've heard
49:09
they're good well I could see the I did
49:10
see a lot of the other Jenna keep saying
49:12
okay I'm gonna watch it next time I go
49:13
do this I'm gonna what and I've watched
49:15
ten minutes of the Undertaker one you
49:18
know I I got like the tapes of like the
49:20
warrior wrestling show and I did watch
49:21
the six-man which was awesome but I mean
49:24
like Suzuki and Tom Lawlor I wanted to
49:26
watch that I still you know that's on my
49:27
list to when I'm gonna watch that you
49:29
know it's like yeah Tom came out to some
49:32
new kids on the block this theme music
49:33
did he okay next question is can you
49:40
discuss how the rosters of each major
49:42
company looks going forward and how each
49:45
source talent for example WB had been
49:47
using NXT as a feeder system do does
49:50
evolve now fill that role if so was that
49:53
sewage entry's I mean I mean the feeder
49:55
system is still the guys at the
49:56
performance center in those those
49:57
Florida
49:58
you know those Florida weekend shows is
50:00
is what they're doing the Train but yeah
50:03
so aw doesn't have a for insist farm
50:06
system and looks more - looks more
50:10
toward the Indy promotions I think will
50:14
they need to work closer with other
50:15
promotions it would be good to have a
50:19
closer relationship with some of the
50:21
different promotions I think aw probably
50:24
at some point because you know they got
50:26
like Anthony a go-go that the boxer and
50:28
it's like you know they signed him I
50:31
mean he's a prospect but he wants to
50:34
wrestle you know and you can't put him
50:36
on TV he's probably not ready for TV so
50:39
you know yeah and and there's gonna be
50:41
you know not not you know there's people
50:43
that we see Christy at Landers don't
50:45
always pops into my head it's like I
50:46
know she's gonna be a star jungleboy is
50:48
another one but they just need more they
50:51
need more ring time more you know then
50:52
they're gonna get just an AW mm-hmm and
50:56
then for New Japan they have the Young
50:57
Lions in the LA dojo as well as RIF
50:59
Australia talent to source from there
51:02
obviously future-proofing themselves
51:05
very well but are there any issues you
51:06
may see on the horizon I will say that
51:09
that New Japan is the one that I think
51:14
is doing a really good job when it comes
51:16
to the future because I look at those
51:18
guys like their development you know
51:21
like double w/e buys the best
51:24
independent talent aew buys the best
51:26
independent talent New Japan is the only
51:28
one I mean w/e absolutely spends tons of
51:31
money to create talent but and New Japan
51:34
spends less but whatever it is New Japan
51:37
is like you know I mean they got Shibata
51:40
and they got Nagada and and those guys
51:44
they don't they also don't have eighty
51:46
five talents talented people just kind
51:51
of hanging out and you know no one ever
51:52
sees them yep no they get them in the
51:55
ring and they put them in the ring with
51:56
Nagada and not Kenny Sheehan these guys
51:58
so they're in there with experienced
52:01
guys and those matches and they develop
52:04
quick I mean you know I mean look at you
52:08
Amira and Yoda suji and these guys I
52:11
mean these guys three years from now
52:13
look we know showing yo and Jay white I
52:15
mean three years ago whatever was I
52:17
remembered and Finley's we've watched
52:19
them in those tags and and it's like
52:21
yeah these guys are all gonna be good
52:22
and their bet they're way better than I
52:24
thought even then I mean Jays like you
52:26
know when the biggest stars in the
52:28
business and show it's such a great you
52:32
know singles babyface you know I mean
52:34
he's you know we've seen him you some of
52:36
them in the Fantasma and the will I mean
52:39
what a what a great pair of matches he's
52:42
just got it speaking of New Japan where
52:45
do you see the new Japan US TV situation
52:48
landing in 2020 which is actually pretty
52:50
interesting because they're doing more
52:51
touring in the US
52:53
I wonder that's I tell you you know it's
52:55
hard because it's New Japan Pro
52:58
Wrestling but somebody in TV you know I
53:07
don't know that there's there's
53:10
something to be said for
53:13
but you know they got to recognize it
53:15
and I don't know that anyone does I mean
53:16
you know Adam Swift did but where's he
53:22
working next maybe that's a maybe that's
53:24
it yeah we're Swift lands with like
53:29
Showtime maybe maybe that's a good and
53:32
you know what III you know but show
53:34
times well maybe they will if I say this
53:36
I mean to me you know I don't know like
53:40
they wanted a TW I could see you know
53:43
once a month doing something with New
53:46
Japan and that fitting you know what I
53:50
mean of course it'd be great if that
53:52
more announced that and then that then
53:54
to become but that can't happen but that
53:57
would be the guy but um yeah I don't
54:01
know cuz you know look access still
54:04
hasn't announced anything for the Tokyo
54:05
Dome I mean that tells me everything I
54:06
need to know about access in New Japan
54:07
whether they stay in under name that you
54:09
know you know they've even put on new
54:10
shows since November every shows been a
54:12
repeat so you know they've they're all
54:16
in with TNA alright with impact and with
54:19
their wo W and and they're not all in
54:21
with the new Japan they're you know
54:23
they're just continuing the contract but
54:26
they're not promoting I mean they're not
54:27
promoting it at all well if they were in
54:31
that San Jose show we went to would have
54:32
been live that was a great show was a
54:34
great lineup it would have made an
54:35
awesome access live special I mean not
54:38
not as good as Dallas but it would have
54:41
still been awesome yep yep so this is
54:45
also about New Japan what lessons do you
54:48
think they can learn from Dragon Gate
54:50
USA reason being because it seems like
54:53
the new Japan American promotion will
54:55
need to rely heavily on independent us
54:58
independent talent kind of similar to
54:59
how DG USA did ten years ago I hope not
55:03
I don't think that anyone wants to see
55:05
New Japan with I mean yeah you could put
55:08
guys in the prelims you know and I'm
55:09
sure TJ P will be in and Colt Cabana
55:11
will be in people like that in prelims
55:13
but I don't think that they want I don't
55:16
think when people go to New Japan I
55:18
think they want you know if they're
55:20
Americans they want they were they
55:22
wanted to be juice Robinson and Lance
55:23
Archer and Finlay you know
55:26
people like that not not you know us
55:29
indie guys working in you know I mean or
55:33
being major parts of it they want they
55:36
want I think people want the authentic
55:37
New Japan product all right here's a
55:40
question about potential wrestling free
55:42
agents Jay white and will Osprey are
55:45
they free agents they're under country
55:47
can you Japan okay that's what I thought
55:48
I can't imagine either of them leaving I
55:51
mean someday will might I mean he's
55:54
always hinted that to me it's like
55:55
there's gonna come a day but probably
55:57
like in six or seven years he wants to
55:59
accomplish all these things and he's got
56:00
years left to accomplish them Jay I
56:02
don't you know I mean you never say
56:04
never but if you're Jade do you want to
56:07
leave New Japan I think that's you know
56:09
it's a perfect place for you you know I
56:11
mean he and those two guys neither them
56:13
I mean Jay has no WB aspirations
56:16
whatsoever I mean none will really he
56:20
doesn't he doesn't like like but I mean
56:22
the mentality of will was someday I'm
56:24
gonna my body broken up and I'm gonna
56:26
have to or whatever I don't put words in
56:28
his mouth but I always got the idea that
56:30
someday down the line he could go to
56:33
double w/e but it wouldn't be anytime
56:34
soon
56:34
but with any W where he would fit in
56:37
much better you know of course who knows
56:38
you know if a.w Mir in six years I mean
56:40
who knows but if a double use at this
56:42
level in six years
56:43
I mean he's you know wills tailor made
56:45
will you know if I was aw I would be
56:48
knocking on the Wheels door right now
56:50
anyway and going like I know he's got
56:52
all that Japan stuff but you know work
56:54
work ten dates a year you know your your
56:56
your girlfriend wife whatever fiance I'm
56:59
not sure exactly what the relationship
57:00
is she works there already just come in
57:02
come in the day she works God could you
57:05
imagine I mean will Osprey matches add
57:07
to that show you know and just will do
57:09
in a pay-per-view match with anybody
57:13
anybody anybody Cody Rhodes kenny omega
57:15
tag match with young bucks and somebody
57:18
I mean come on he's the greatest stuff
57:20
on TV that there is you meant you wrote
57:24
some stuff about ROH guys who are
57:26
possibly free agents Jeff Cobb being one
57:29
of them any-any got no hints I mean on
57:34
anything I don't know what you know I
57:37
think I think Marty's
57:39
going somewhere you know obviously he's
57:42
not signed a new deal as far as the rest
57:46
I don't know what's going on with the
57:48
adido I know the Bandito got a great
57:50
offer to stay he won the at pwg right he
57:53
won't be too busy Friday night yeah so
57:54
we know so tells he's not going w/e but
57:56
I didn't I didn't think he would I mean
57:59
it Benji if I know if you're Bandido you
58:01
know it's it's it's to me it's like Ring
58:03
of Honor or a TW one or the other and
58:07
then Jeff I don't know he's just on the
58:10
Tokyo Dome show that's that kind of
58:12
disappointed me yeah I know I wanted to
58:13
see him in a singles match with shingo
58:15
takashi too bad didn't happen okay
58:20
from a buddy brady what are your
58:23
theories as to the rise of inder
58:25
inter-gender matches on the american
58:28
independent scene is the talent pool for
58:29
american women that thin at the moment I
58:33
think the talent pool for American women
58:35
wrestling is pretty thin because people
58:38
were scrambling for women that aren't
58:39
ready to be on television so yeah and
58:42
and there's a big emphasis on getting
58:44
women I mean in their inner gender you
58:47
know look at you and you inter-gender
58:47
matches on an independent show that's
58:49
fine if it works if the crowd wants it
58:51
you know whatever I don't know how well
58:54
it would work in WWE and an aw I mean I
58:59
know you know things always change but
59:01
you know Tony Kahn's mentality when he
59:02
started was no energen der and double w
59:05
is strongly no inter-gender but you know
59:07
they they've softened a little bit and
59:10
in time you know what's forbidden and
59:12
what you know at one point you know
59:13
changes but they'll do inter-gender for
59:15
like main event stuff if it makes sense
59:17
like when they did
59:18
Ronda and Kurt and triple agents yeah
59:20
yeah yeah but but they but it must say
59:22
the women woman and man man right right
59:24
and the women can beat up the guys but
59:25
the guys wearing allowed to beat up the
59:26
women yeah okay I believe you reported
59:31
that NXT is in full sail until at least
59:34
March do you think at that point they
59:36
move on to a touring show what size
59:38
arenas possibly the same size is alw
59:45
weekly
59:48
and I wouldn't I don't think quite the
59:50
test for them I don't think that they
59:52
could draw I don't think they could draw
59:54
weakly on a Wednesday night in arenas
59:58
you know more than 2,000 but as far as
60:04
leaving if if the ratings turn around
60:10
and they're getting killed they will
60:12
leave until that happens this is a lot
60:15
less expensive way of doing it so
60:17
there's no point in leaving when they're
60:18
you know they're not here to necessarily
60:21
win
60:22
they're here to hurt the other side and
60:25
it's long and but not get killed like if
60:28
it was eight hundred thousand to five
60:29
hundred thousand Vincente want to lose
60:31
if it's eight hundred thousand eight
60:33
hundred thousand I think Vince is okay
60:35
with going even and saying not waste and
60:38
wasting a lot of money on it but if it's
60:40
down yes they do not want to lose they
60:42
don't want to be embarrassed in a fight
60:44
alright this is a little bit of a long
60:46
question first part is how do you
60:50
imagine wrestling in the UK is going to
60:52
look by the end of 2020
60:53
well and he then says they've lost four
60:58
of the larger more established Indies
61:01
it seems that 2019 has been a very bad
61:04
year for UK wrestling with defiant ipw
61:07
UK South Side and PwC all either closing
61:10
or announcing they will close and X to
61:12
UK having sucked out a lot of the top
61:14
talent and he said a few years ago I
61:17
would have thought things would looked
61:19
really good here by 2020 but now I fear
61:21
we could be headed back to the dark
61:23
mid-2000s and fast I think that we're on
61:27
that way everyone that I talked to in
61:30
the UK seen pretty much tells me the
61:33
same thing it's very very hard to draw
61:35
double-double use having trouble drawing
61:37
there
61:38
I think the first aw show there will do
61:41
really really well but I but even even
61:46
then after that after the first couple I
61:48
think that it will be tough the new
61:51
Japan did well at the copper box real
61:53
well but they didn't sell out but but as
61:55
far as the smaller companies I mean I
61:57
know like with the rep Pro and
61:58
everything the last your call was
62:00
was you know down progress used to be
62:02
instant immediate sellouts and they're
62:04
down so yeah I think it's gonna get
62:06
tougher and tougher what is the status
62:09
of the International NXT expansions and
62:13
has the conflict with aew distracted WWE
62:17
from those plans I don't know that it's
62:19
distracted but there I mean it's
62:23
definitely still the goal you know to do
62:25
India and Japan and everywhere
62:28
everywhere they want to go everywhere
62:29
they want to be you know Paul of X idea
62:33
is to redo regional wrestling but but
62:36
not but the region not being like
62:38
Southeast and California and all that
62:40
the region being India and Japan and
62:43
Australia and Europe and you know South
62:47
America but don't they all have TV deals
62:50
for Raw at least raw in those areas to
62:54
most of the places have brought yeah
62:55
yeah but the idea would be to have the
63:00
independence and that way they have the
63:02
pipeline they sign all the best talent
63:04
they have the pipeline that talent
63:06
doesn't go anywhere else and no they're
63:09
in control of the area that's the idea
63:11
there's no there's no of these smaller
63:14
companies you know that like it's not
63:16
gonna be a you know I think that they
63:19
would be okay with the PWG but didn't
63:21
want anything larger than that I don't
63:22
think
63:22
mhm you know I think that they they
63:24
don't want anyone out there drawn 2,000
63:26
people anywhere in the world I mean
63:28
obviously with Mexico and Japan that's
63:30
gonna be tough not to stomp that out but
63:33
you know that's the goal is to control
63:36
everything it's always been and and yeah
63:39
well aw establish more international TV
63:42
deals or stick with fight TV for
63:44
international distribution
63:46
you know Tony sells the stuff I think
63:50
that you know I think they would like to
63:52
have TV in Australia and some other
63:53
place and look eventually you know one
63:55
of the things for them as far as you
63:58
know like an economically viable getting
64:02
TV and in some place like India you know
64:04
which pays or South Africa you know
64:06
places like that which which impact has
64:09
that should be one of their high
64:11
priority things they actually should you
64:13
know be
64:13
aggressively going after television that
64:16
pays you know because that's a you know
64:18
inevitably what's gonna they're gonna aw
64:21
is gonna make it or not based on the
64:23
amount of television revenue they get
64:24
that's that's it you know I mean
64:27
everything else is gravy pay-per-views
64:29
and ice it's television revenue and it's
64:31
not just you know us is always gonna be
64:33
the primary but it shouldn't be just us
64:35
you know you want it anywhere where it
64:38
pays and you know so that should be you
64:41
know Europe and you know India and
64:46
Philippines and places like that you
64:48
know that's that should be part of the
64:50
Australia that should be very high
64:52
priority stuff someone also asked if you
64:55
think Cena will do anything in debit of
64:58
EE 2020 I don't know it's up to his
65:01
schedule he's booked solid I saw I saw
65:04
like his schedule and it's um he's got
65:06
stuff year-round he's got a lot of work
65:08
good for him yeah so this one is about
65:13
the another question about the Indies
65:15
independent promotions like p GG or AAW
65:18
gcw defi how do you think they're gonna
65:20
do in 2020 with more of a
65:26
let's see a lot of wrestlers were able
65:29
to make a living without signing with
65:30
double w but now with aw new japan
65:32
running shows how will it be moving
65:34
forward so i guess how does with aew and
65:38
new japan coming in the u.s. how does
65:39
that affect the big indies it's gonna be
65:42
harder for them to get talent good good
65:45
talent and when it's harder to get good
65:46
talent it's gonna be harder to draw
65:48
though i think that they'll be around
65:50
I'm sure pwg will be around but I think
65:55
that we're gonna look back and go that
65:57
this the 2019 was the last year of a
65:59
very glory period for a lot of these
66:00
companies it's gonna get a lot it's I
66:03
think it's gonna get a lot tougher for
66:04
everybody you know I think that's one of
66:06
the stories is you know I've more seen
66:10
it look like I said I leave the ticket
66:12
sales for the dough w/e here and and and
66:15
some of the a UW's and it's hard it's
66:18
hard with AWS declining ratings do you
66:23
think they will have to make major
66:25
changes to the show no but they I think
66:29
that there's minor changes they should
66:31
make I think that a lot of it is just
66:35
inevitable you know I it's funny because
66:37
you know before the DVR numbers came out
66:39
I was would sit there because I know
66:40
people like pick apart this like a lot
66:43
of the stuff that they do and it's like
66:47
70 to 80 percent of what people say is
66:50
stuff that has like nothing to do with
66:52
ratings you know it's like oh you know
66:55
like you know or or or absolutely
66:57
completely wrong like the oh they gotta
66:59
get the title off of Jeremy you know
67:01
which is just ridiculous it's just
67:02
stupid but you know I have to but but
67:05
you know no rush that's for sure but you
67:12
know like it's like the oh you know they
67:14
need to do this and it's like yeah you
67:16
know you could but that's not like rings
67:19
are going down with all these great
67:20
matches and some great promos and you
67:22
know Jericho and Cody you're doing some
67:24
of the best promos in the business they
67:26
need you know Moxley needs to talk more
67:27
Omega need to talk more there's I mean I
67:29
have a million ideas they can do but
67:31
that's not gonna greatly change what's
67:34
going on and their numbers were going
67:35
down down down and I was just like
67:37
they're they're you know they're given a
67:39
good product and then xt2 that's given a
67:41
good product away these numbers down and
67:43
now I know why they're down so now I get
67:45
it
67:45
so no no major changes minor tweaks
67:48
improvements here and there yes you know
67:50
obviously that last segment on Wednesday
67:53
was you know not the best thing that guy
67:57
who was punch in the mat self jab man
68:00
that was you know that was this is a bad
68:05
week for them just for a lot of reasons
68:07
I mean they had a real bad I mean it
68:09
wasn't even a bad show which is a bad
68:10
closing segment and then and then you
68:13
know between that that thing getting out
68:15
and just you know a lot of other things
68:18
although you know that the rating being
68:20
down you know losing in 18-49 for the
68:22
first week which was was which it was
68:24
significant and they were gonna lose no
68:25
matter what because of you know how
68:26
strong NXT had promoted that but then
68:29
getting that artificial thing because
68:31
the presidential impeachment you know
68:33
made the the writing look a lot worse
68:35
than it would have been otherwise and
68:38
you know just all of those things in the
68:40
same week that that thing going out
68:43
there you know I mean it's offset by the
68:44
Chicago thing to a degree you know
68:47
someone out in 52 minutes but you know I
68:50
tell you what man that I I've never
68:52
that's that the Chicago thing talk about
68:56
something that's like pretty significant
68:58
that man people aren't talking about
69:00
that at all I mean it's it's really one
69:02
of those things where it's like you know
69:04
I think it's like that thing or we got a
69:07
whatever you know it's like it's the
69:09
negative week and we can't let any
69:10
positivity get in on the negative week
69:11
I'm just positive and negative of the
69:13
week you know forever you know that's
69:15
just how it is
69:17
I had a question about thinking of aew
69:22
and looking at the TV show III kind of
69:25
watch it with the mentality of its new
69:27
they're learning every week
69:29
I think they aren't gonna judge it for a
69:31
little while as far as whether it's
69:33
successful or not or because it's so new
69:36
still how long should how long are you
69:42
or should I take that viewpoint of it of
69:45
giving them the benefit of the doubt
69:47
getting the benefit of the doubt as far
69:48
as judging that TV show production-wise
69:53
you know I mean it's it's it's enough
69:55
shows that they shouldn't be making big
69:57
production mistakes I mean little new
69:59
things that happen sure but that happens
70:01
on Raw too
70:01
I mean if you know you want to look
70:03
there's always that's gonna happen
70:05
I don't know you know I mean I don't I
70:09
don't really have a good answer for that
70:11
I I mean I don't I don't even look at it
70:14
now that they deserve the benefit of the
70:16
doubt other than as far as long-term
70:19
stories we're not there were two new so
70:21
I mean as far as that goes you know
70:23
probably mmm you know about the one-year
70:27
anniversary I think I really want to see
70:30
I really want to see a big spectacular
70:33
climax of something you know by a year
70:37
in I guess is what I would look for but
70:39
as far as the other stuff week by week
70:40
there's little tweaks that you can do
70:42
you know I just like something like I
70:43
was thinking of today is like like you
70:45
know they were going to Atlanta and
70:47
they're running the state farmer and
70:48
that's a big arena for them
70:50
and you know I looked at the ticket
70:51
sales and it's gonna be tough it's gonna
70:53
be tough tough for a double-double you
70:54
in that arena too but I you know the
70:58
tickets when I'm salad Friday and I
70:59
didn't even like really know you know
71:01
it's like I remember they were do shows
71:03
and man I knew the ticket sales I was
71:04
hammered everywhere I went
71:06
tickets go on sale tomorrow tickets go
71:07
on sale tomorrow make sure to buy your
71:09
ticket and I didn't even I didn't even
71:11
know Atlanta was on sale other than I
71:12
think they did sort of mention it on the
71:14
show in split second can even resonate
71:17
with me with a million other things
71:17
going on well they were these two like
71:20
tweet that stuff like lazy yeah they
71:23
didn't do they need to do that they need
71:24
to do that they need to corner I wonder
71:26
if they stopped doing it because they
71:27
stopped selling out yeah but you got a
71:30
promote I mean no no you know you're not
71:32
gonna sell out these Wednesday's that
71:34
much now but you got to promote the hell
71:36
out of it even harder now because it's
71:38
not as much of a novelty but I mean I
71:40
just thought like with Atlanta I just
71:42
thought you know Cody did that thing
71:44
weeks and weeks ago the match beyond
71:46
remember that promo the match beyond the
71:49
now it's gonna yeah I mean who's it
71:51
gonna fit in with now but I mean it
71:53
should be the elite in the inner circle
71:54
and and I mean Atlanta you know to me
71:57
that'd be great you know like go back to
71:59
Atlanta where the first war games were
72:01
you got the big arena two rings set up
72:04
do the damn thing you know but I mean
72:06
the way the tickets are sold obviously I
72:08
don't think they can sell put two rings
72:11
together because it's you know tickets
72:13
have already been sold for ringside so
72:14
yeah but I mean I would have just
72:16
thought like that's like the place where
72:17
you do the match beyond and you do it in
72:20
Atlanta it's got some buzz you go in
72:23
there and maybe get it really you know I
72:24
mean I don't suspect you 10,000 people
72:26
but maybe you get 8,000 people or
72:28
something like that and its destination
72:30
see I think they need more destination
72:33
shows so that's one thing I would do is
72:35
I was actually thinking about all this
72:36
is gonna probably a story about this I
72:38
think that they should once a month
72:41
they're like the TV each week should be
72:43
building and you know you have some good
72:45
matches on TV every week of course but I
72:47
think that every you should build up one
72:49
television show a month to be
72:50
destination because one every three
72:53
months
72:53
pay-per-view it's too slow it's like we
72:56
need some big matches now we can't wait
72:58
till February 29th that's months away it
73:00
kind of lags you think I think you need
73:02
one every month so
73:03
you go in there with with one show maybe
73:06
it's the last Wednesday of every month
73:08
maybe just the bigger best arena that
73:10
you're gonna run in the month and name
73:12
it you know this is the bunkhouse
73:14
Stampede or this is you know chasing
73:17
glory or well I don't know just whatever
73:19
I don't have any good names I've thought
73:20
my head exiting thing but you give these
73:22
shows one show a month has a name you
73:24
have Jericho defend you have you know
73:28
you build it up for three you do three
73:29
weeks of build for it it's not the a a
73:32
Jericho can he'll make a match no but
73:34
it's Jericho against Pok it's Jericho
73:38
against Adam Paige its Jericho against
73:41
jungle boy you know furch in a
73:43
championship match now it's jungle you
73:44
know it's Jericho against Phoenix you
73:48
know Pentagon Nick Jackson matches that
73:52
you know normally you wouldn't see but
73:53
you can make it on that and you don't
73:55
have to adhere to number one contender
73:57
stuff but it's just yes this is kind of
74:00
like what you do and you do one a month
74:01
so there's always that destination
74:02
looming soon so I would do that you know
74:06
so yeah but have you heard about aw cuz
74:10
cuz NXT sort of doing that now yeah you
74:13
know yeah they're definitely building
74:14
towards you know they've got their
74:16
they've got their take over but there
74:17
every couple of weeks they're building
74:19
you those big matches and the
74:21
destination like that last show this
74:23
last week was clearly you know a
74:25
destination show what are aww expansion
74:29
plans for live shows such as coming to
74:32
the US or I mean I'm sorry coming to the
74:34
western US or internationally I mean I
74:38
don't know what the timetable is but I'm
74:40
UK's you know they definitely want to go
74:41
to the UK this year I know there's been
74:44
talks of Canada West Coast of course at
74:47
some point I mean they're gonna double
74:50
yikes I expect them in Vegas again soon
74:53
I gotta hit Southern California in
74:55
Northern California you know it's just a
74:57
question I wouldn't go to a life to live
74:58
dynamite show what's what's wish they
75:02
run here can they run the Event Center I
75:06
would think would WWE have a
75:08
stranglehold on it you can have a
75:10
starring role in the building you in
75:11
once a year no way they can't keep the
75:13
ball you you've got to run up something
75:15
six times a year to get that kind of
75:16
strength
75:16
old yeah they could run the event sir I
75:19
think that's too small but they would
75:20
sell it out yeah I mean but it looks
75:23
really good for TV to the Civic look
75:25
great on TV though 4G on new Japan world
75:27
and that's 2500 seats and they would
75:29
sell that out like they would sell that
75:31
out the first minute tickets go on sale
75:33
for the first time they come here but
75:36
it's a little on the small side but what
75:37
a great look and if they get the
75:39
atmosphere that the new Japan got what a
75:41
show that would be yeah yeah that
75:43
building is awesome just to go watch
75:45
wrestling - I know I grew up in that
75:48
building I've been in there in probably
75:49
25 years 30 years and 88 was the first
75:53
time I was there for wrestling 88 yeah
75:55
so that's probably when I was still
75:56
going to go with W it was like a sea
75:59
show though it was like not any of like
76:01
no title match or inter-cranial title
76:04
match it was like a sea she's just the
76:06
size that building in the 80s they would
76:08
run a sea show there yeah you know
76:09
they're gonna run in a show is good
76:10
Coliseum or the cop house yeah do you
76:13
think impacts nwa aw and mlw need to
76:17
find a way of cooperating possibly
76:21
champion that gets defended across
76:22
remote no no no I aw shouldn't be the
76:27
only thing aid any company if a w's
76:30
gonna work with as far as a championship
76:32
going back and forth i mean i guess they
76:35
are working with Triple A because
76:36
Kenny's going to defend the AAA
76:38
championship but if the only one I would
76:44
do is if you make a deal with New Japan
76:46
I think New Japan if you brought Okada
76:48
in or nitro and they're IWGP champion or
76:50
a bushi I would I would make that deal
76:54
but not mlw anything like but they know
76:56
aw and mlw already have a great
76:58
relationship or a good relationship
77:00
anyway I don't know great might be but
77:03
they absolutely have a good relationship
77:04
mm-hmm but this I don't know that it
77:07
really matters with the other groups if
77:09
this was like the old territorial days
77:11
where every territory was loaded with
77:12
talent it'd be one thing but it it's you
77:15
know a double you can get who they want
77:17
for the most part that's not in WWE
77:22
let's see what about a secondary title
77:25
in aew with so many wrestlers on the
77:27
roster it would seem like they could
77:29
easily afford to have
77:30
of a TV champion or us title type
77:32
championship that more middle tier guys
77:35
could chase nothing wrong with that yeah
77:40
I it's like it's not it's not a
77:45
necessity to me but I think one you know
77:49
like I wouldn't over blowed it but you
77:52
know yeah you have like a a second I
77:55
wouldn't treat it like double W II does
77:58
you know maybe like intercontinental a
78:00
new Japan yeah I think they do a good
78:02
job with that but yeah yeah III would
78:05
think so I think that's fine
78:06
is there a low point for ratings for aew
78:13
or for any of the WBTV out there that
78:16
would get the network's to sort of well
78:19
yeah there is obviously um you know
78:22
USA's kind of at the mercy of whatever
78:23
raw does I think that if NXT got below I
78:30
don't know you know 400 I think that
78:34
would be terrible
78:36
maybe even five for aw I think if they
78:39
went below five what does miz and miz's
78:41
do we're gonna find out well you know
78:43
they had they were coming right off a
78:44
smackdown yeah so they were doing you
78:46
know almost a million but now they're
78:49
gonna come off of NXT so can they do 400
78:51
now the you know NXT they've been doing
78:54
they've been following it with those
78:55
docks and the Becky Lynch one did over
78:57
four and the one week before that did
79:00
and I think like that maybe the high
79:01
threes so you know whatever I think that
79:07
I don't think Fox would be happy if
79:11
Smackdown got like 1.8 million viewers I
79:14
don't think so
79:15
but they're still well above that to you
79:19
know they almost had to expect it was
79:21
possible to get to you know because
79:22
there right now they're at 2 3 2 for
79:24
most weeks yeah with ROH and even impact
79:28
drawing less than they have in a long
79:29
time could you see either of them sell
79:31
or lease their tape library to the WWE
79:35
Network to get some extra money just to
79:40
get extra money I guess ROH yes
79:45
as far as like impact allowing them to
79:50
use stuff they already do I'm sure that
79:53
they would allow them to use like clips
79:54
if they want to do a documentary on Kurt
79:56
Angle or Jeff Jarrett or whatever I only
79:59
need even be an issue with that as far
80:01
as like actually getting that those guys
80:03
don't talk about those years they know
80:05
they are now okay yeah
80:07
because but the enemy is aw so yeah so
80:10
that everything else every that try to
80:12
be friends with everybody that's not a
80:13
aw aw see only enemy I'm sure they're
80:17
probably not friends with mlw but that's
80:19
different issue but the the as far as
80:24
the library itself I can't imagine them
80:27
getting the impact library because
80:29
impacts owned by a media company yeah
80:31
I'm so you're not gonna sell your
80:32
intellectual property especially with
80:33
what double-double he pays for the
80:34
network you know they're not they're not
80:37
gonna sell I know I mean it's always
80:38
possible but I know people are going
80:40
like oh you know like they should you
80:42
know do this it's like not that simple
80:44
you know you got to remember that
80:45
Leonard a Spurs probably I don't know if
80:48
he's worth more than Vince but he might
80:49
be I know he's a billionaire you know
80:51
it's like it's not like you know
80:53
everyone thinks that oh you know Vince
80:56
just by always think if you're running a
80:58
media company you're not selling your
80:59
content to Vince you know if it's until
81:03
you give up the ghost
81:04
but even give up the ghost you still got
81:06
this fight networking everything they're
81:07
gonna you know they they haven't sold in
81:09
the same Louis library either which the
81:11
fight network owns if our wage has
81:14
another year like they had in 2019 with
81:18
the exception of the beginning of the
81:20
year and the MSG outlier will Sinclair
81:22
be looking would they be looking to sell
81:24
and would ww be interested in what I
81:29
mean what are you buying
81:31
I guess if they had existing contracts
81:34
on guys yeah I suppose for a couple guys
81:39
but duck rings they don't need more look
81:42
when was the last time w actually bought
81:45
a company yeah they bought WCW and then
81:48
shut it down they were gonna buy impact
81:50
and shut it down
81:50
could they buy Ring of Honor on you know
81:54
pennies on the dollar and shut it down
81:55
yes they could
81:57
but I mean as far as I mean as far as
82:00
what Sinclair is gonna do just the value
82:02
of what they see that you know it's
82:03
cheap programming for that for their
82:05
stations if it gets so bad that they
82:08
don't want it you know I mean yeah
82:09
they'll try to sell I don't know who
82:11
would buy at this point
82:12
somebody might but you know I don't know
82:16
I mean Billy Corgan has got his own
82:18
thing he doesn't need to buy Ring of
82:19
Honor now you know I don't know what
82:22
market other people have I mean there
82:23
were there wasn't a lot of people
82:25
wanting to buy impact but you know fight
82:28
network did do you expect Australia to
82:32
be a target market for any of the big US
82:37
companies WB aw New Japan Pro us I'm
82:43
sorry not III misread that do you expect
82:45
Australia be a target market for WWE aw
82:48
New Japan Pro Wrestling and conversely
82:50
do you think we'll continue to see
82:51
Australian talent more prevalent in
82:54
those major companies well I think that
82:57
they're all gonna look for good talent
82:58
anywhere in the world so sure
83:02
w-will will probably run Australia the
83:05
same amount that they do now I don't
83:09
know about NXT going there
83:10
you know next he's been doing a lot less
83:12
touring I mean I'm sure those continue
83:13
to do UK but it's a lot of money to to
83:17
not draw big crowds aw in Australia I
83:22
mean at some point I think they should
83:23
go but I don't know how soon that's
83:25
gonna be and New Japan they'll probably
83:29
run Australia you know a couple shows
83:30
next year I I would think I think this
83:34
next question is about your website I
83:38
really enjoyed the podcast you put out
83:39
earlier this year that was essentially
83:42
all female there's a woman Brian and
83:46
three women Sammy Ruby and Trinity do
83:50
you think we'll start seeing more
83:51
content featuring women in 2020 so I
83:54
think this is about your website yeah I
83:56
mean there's no real good answer
83:59
you know I'm if I mean I we've talked
84:04
about it if you know I think that we
84:08
might do another one in Vegas
84:10
when aw does Vegas because Ruby lives in
84:14
Ruby riot Ruby Flores lives in Las Vegas
84:19
so you know if that would be a good
84:23
place to go if she's there I mean I
84:25
haven't even you know we haven't been
84:28
together in a place with her to do
84:30
anything you know you know since that
84:33
since that show since that show cuz know
84:34
what I thought the show went well and we
84:36
all talked about doing it again just we
84:37
haven't been in the same place if she
84:39
had gone to Japan on this trip which
84:41
she's not doing we I'm sure would have
84:45
actually done a show with her in after
84:47
the Tokyo Dome I mean I saw it whether
84:50
it's the last Tokyo Dome show so I know
84:52
it would be great maybe we'll do
84:56
something with Trinity she's gonna be
84:58
both Tokyo Dome shows so we'll probably
85:01
something next week or two weeks
85:02
whatever but as far as like Ruby and
85:06
Sammy if if there's a big show in Vegas
85:11
and we go we'll probably do it yes but I
85:17
don't know you know there's nothing on
85:18
the horizon if if aw runs another show
85:21
at t-mobile or MGM Grand I think there's
85:23
a real good shot that we would do it
85:24
that weekend so similarly and I'm
85:27
actually interested in this but in your
85:30
career doing what you do have you are
85:34
the women that you've come across who
85:36
have covered wrestling or covered the
85:39
business in the same way and had you
85:42
know did did a pretty good job with it
85:44
historically I can't come up with a name
85:49
off the top of my head I I can't because
85:55
I'm trying to think of writers I'm
85:57
trying to think of anyone do an audio I
86:00
know there's a lot of female specific
86:02
websites that you know they look for
86:05
news on a lot of the the female town
86:07
they get squared circle sirens and
86:08
things like that yeah yeah but those are
86:11
run by guys oh really I think so I think
86:15
they are yeah I think that almost all
86:18
the women specific stuff is run by guys
86:21
I know one woman who was running the
86:23
the some of the wrestling stuff on the
86:27
fan sided blogs but a lot of that stuff
86:29
you know kind of gets dissolved yeah I
86:32
was interested I didn't know of someone
86:35
who was kind of you know like a someone
86:37
who was into the history and covering
86:39
the business like how you and others
86:42
there were women bylines years ago in
86:46
the magazines not much though one of my
86:52
friends used to write for WCW magazine I
86:55
believe her name was um patty Terry she
86:59
had I know who she had lots of you know
87:01
lots of photos with tons of people from
87:04
WCW so I know she was pretty legit but I
87:07
don't you know that's a WCW magazine
87:09
versus covering the yes yeah I just
87:12
don't know I mean you would think that
87:14
there be
87:15
I know names popping in my head okay I
87:20
think we are just about done but I did
87:22
have one question that I was thought was
87:25
gonna come up but it didn't I know a lot
87:28
of my friends who are hardcore wrestling
87:30
fans just love and w8 power and it's
87:34
numbers are dropping faster than I mean
87:36
I don't say faster than one but I mean I
87:38
just wrote about their numbers yeah and
87:40
and I'm looking at it's like this is a
87:42
show that nobody complains about if I
87:45
watch that show and I I probably watch
87:47
it almost every week and I have a smile
87:50
on my face the whole hour I you know I
87:53
like that show yeah you know I mean if
87:55
they took me called us off the show I
87:57
probably would never watch it cuz he's
87:59
that good maybe I would watch a little
88:01
bit I mean I like seeing ricky morton
88:03
and robert gibson there's a stout but
88:05
that's a nostalgic thing that's not
88:06
gonna last forever
88:07
I like Marquez I hurt me that cornets
88:10
off that really hurt the show Stu
88:13
Bennett's good though I mean so it's not
88:14
it's not that big of a I mean it's
88:16
something but um so my question is and
88:19
it's something but but it's but it's the
88:21
it's the perfect thing it's like this
88:23
show is really good but with so much
88:26
content people don't get to it as much
88:28
you know we had David lagana on and my
88:32
question is how long do you
88:36
think they go without a TV deal I don't
88:40
know that's up to Billy I think that the
88:42
response probably makes it longer
88:44
because when you're told you know
88:46
especially in a business like this
88:48
what's everyone is so freaking critical
88:50
you know even if stuff that's good when
88:54
you have a show that's gotten such great
88:56
critical praise I think that there might
88:58
be but but yeah at some point
88:59
everything's a business and Billy's
89:02
ultimately in a business to make it work
89:04
and unless you see light at the end of
89:05
the tunnel there's no point in keeping
89:07
it going so bi you desperately Billy
89:12
would his mentality is on and you know
89:14
what he's not gonna tell you you know
89:15
sorry we're a minute for good until one
89:17
day just decides it's you know it's a
89:21
great idea it just isn't the right time
89:22
I mean the little Lorenzo thing I always
89:24
remember like the Lorenzo thing in
89:26
2002-2003 when they were losing money
89:28
like crazy on UFC and it was never that
89:31
they never for a second thought UFC was
89:33
not a viable thing nor did they stop
89:37
liking UFC but it was just like I guess
89:40
it's just not the right time
89:41
mhm and then a year later it was the
89:43
right time but that but that was all
89:45
Spike TV but the big problem now which
89:48
we've learned with aw man we've learned
89:49
with NXT is when UFC got on Spike TV
89:55
sellout crowds giant pay-per-views
89:58
immediately big pay-per-views within a
90:01
year giant pay-per-views aw I mean
90:07
they're doing the same business they
90:08
were doing actually less with TV TVs
90:11
making it harder and XT is doing less
90:13
UFC a had great lead to what did a great
90:16
lead-in yeah
90:18
yeah III think that's a big part of the
90:20
story of UFC was was coming after Ron
90:22
all those wrestling fans and having that
90:24
Leoben and Josh Koscheck angle with
90:28
Bobby Southworth I don't think anyone I
90:30
mean they'll always credit the Griffin
90:32
Bonner and Griffin Bonner was huge
90:34
I never discount Griffin Bonner but
90:36
Leoben and Koscheck was bigger leveland
90:38
Koscheck I remember the week after I
90:40
mean people in the wrestling were just
90:42
like what's gonna happen here you know I
90:44
mean everyone you know I mean you know
90:47
they did
90:48
was to two million viewers for two
90:53
million two million viewers for Leoben
90:54
and Kasich at 11:30 on a Monday night
90:58
you know that tells you something and
91:00
then they once that happened you know I
91:02
mean it was it wasn't everything smooth
91:04
but they were off to the races Bobby
91:06
Southworth would have been the biggest
91:08
Twitter heel of all time yeah after that
91:10
show oh my god no kidding and if we had
91:14
Twitter then that show would have even
91:15
been even been bigger because everybody
91:17
be playing those Josh Koscheck Bobby
91:19
Southworth stuff with Chris Leben is the
91:22
the babyface which is all hilarious
91:24
because I'm such a heel when it started
91:26
you know peeing on the bed and the bed
91:28
and just out there drinking and
91:30
challenging people to fights left and
91:31
right yeah but what a personality he was
91:33
an important personality in the growth
91:35
of UFC absolutely yeah
91:38
okay I think that's it here so you and I
91:42
will not be doing separate what's your
91:44
schedule with Brian upcoming until when
91:46
you Monday and Wednesday and then
91:49
probably one more show next weekend
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which would probably be you know it
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depends on schedule but I think Saturday
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because I'm leavin Sunday at I mean my
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flights 7:00 a.m. so and it's out of SF
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so I got to leave here at 4:00 yeah you
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gonna leave really early here we got to
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get everybody up and go yeah it's gonna
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be quite the trip I'm super excited
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about it but my god it's I haven't even
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figured out which shows them going to I
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saw you posted the list of all the shows
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for those days - yeah something going on
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like every hour yeah I can't like it's
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like because I'm going with
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non-wrestling fans with my family it's
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like I can't be so intense and go to two
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shows in a day I don't think although I
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think on January 3rd I'm gonna go to two
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shows so I'm on the second it's gonna be
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either all Japan or big Japan but
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probably not much we're not going
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anything in the first which the third
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definitely going to do al Trapani
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morning because it's Kim tell me Aharon
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Jake Lee there's no way I'm gonna miss
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that match that that you know Kim told
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me a whore alive
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Cody's like loved can Tomi are alive I
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loved it he's just great to see live
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the fourth I got my show in the morning
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and I got the Tokyo Dome so yeah if
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you're actually there I got a show on
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Friday morning at total cons at like
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11:00 in the morning
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and you should go because total cons is
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the grace like you got to go to toto
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cons you got to win you know some day
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who and you're doing it with just me as
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far as I know I don't know that anyone
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else is doing it I mean yeah that may
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change but as far as I know it's just me
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and then the fifth I was gonna do Noah
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in the morning and Tokyo Dome but with
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the Tokyo I'm starting at 2:00 I think
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just gonna be Tokyo Dome and then I'm
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coming home the 6 I'm not seeing 4 - cuz
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the kids got school and I want to miss
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another day so I'd stand for - that's
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you know I can get tickets well - was
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tough last night you know you know how
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bad day - was I could not I mean
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literally you have no idea how hard it
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was to get - tickets it was it was like
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and I had friends there and it was it
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was impossible I mean it was like the
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most impossible ticket to ever get but
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this year they're in a bigger building
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and you know I mean again I mean people
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say hey we got tickets for - for you and
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it's like I'm going home this year for
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that but you know hopefully it won't be
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like last year where is is - still as
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huge of a demand with there being more
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than one Tokyo Dome show no okay no
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demand isn't there like like before but
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during a 5,000 seat building instead of
94:31
you know korkin so you know but it's not
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like like last year they had they had
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lotteries to get - tickets
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you know like lotteries they have to get
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four tickets of the dome so and it was
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just impossible I mean it was impossible
94:47
to get those tickets I mean if I didn't
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know people and even then I couldn't I
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couldn't get a ticket for Ruby for the
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for quark and you know and I tried so
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yeah it was just it was just freaking
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tough